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PUPPY
01-15-2011, 08:01 PM
i'm 5'10 and 125 lbs . most of the exercise i get is from doing casually dunbell lifting at home and jogging a couple km on the weekends . i have been eating a huge amount every meal for my entire life (chinese family cooks a lot) but im still relatively skinny and not gaining weight at all.
looking for some tips and advice on how to eat/exercise better to gain weight/muscle healthily but steadily.
SkinnyPupp
01-15-2011, 08:13 PM
Sometimes genetically, there's not much you can do to gain weight. But you can do things to help. Forget the jogging and dumbbell curls, and do full body weight training 3 times a week with heavy weights.
Also your family may cook a lot, but if it's mostly rice and noodles, the weight gain will be a lot of visceral fat (organ fat). Keep eating as much as you can, but focus on eating meat, meat, and more meat. Every meal you eat should have mostly protein and fat.
Keep this up, and you will be more muscular, stronger, and have better cholesterol and your organs will work better.
JSilver
01-15-2011, 08:48 PM
No cardio
Lift Heavy
Compound Exercises
Eat Several Meals throughout the day
Rest
strykn
01-15-2011, 08:50 PM
EAT
PROTEIN
DEADLIFT
SQUAT
SLEEP
PUPPY
01-15-2011, 08:59 PM
thanks for all the advice
ok no more cardio for me
what are compound exercises?
i usually eat breakfast, lunch, a semi-meal afterschool, dinner, a late night snack before i sleep . i get 8 hours of sleep (11pm-7am)
is that sufficient and what changes can i make?
should i be doing squats and deadlifts everyday? or just a few days a week?
Protein, and plenty of it, take shakes, and eat lots of meats and nuts, lift heavy and no cardio at all. You get enough sleep, and try to drink lots of water, maybe add into intake of carbohydrates if you want.
SkinnyPupp
01-15-2011, 09:21 PM
Simplest way:
1) Go to the gym 3 days a week
2) Each day, do a heavy upper body pulling motion, a heavy pushing motion, and a deadlift or squat variation
3) Use a weight where you are able to do about 8-10 reps on the first set. Subsequent sets may be lower - that is a good thing.
4) Repeat each set until you reach 25 total reps. So it could be 10 on the first set, then 8, then 5, then 2.
Pulling exercises: rows, pulldowns, barbell pulls, cable pulls (at high, med, low settings there are many variations you can do)
Pushing exercises: dumbbell press, dips, pushups, shoulder press. you can use cables for a lot of variation here too
Deadlifts/squats: Besides the obvious you have front squat, hack squat (my personal fave) overhead squat, side lunges, romanian dumbbell deadlift, single leg deadlift, bulgarian split squats. You can even do a cable squat with the lowest pulley.
Not get to the gym and EAT EAT EAT.
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/
Good for you for trying to improve yourself. 5'10 @ 125 lbs is honger skinny.
DC5-S
01-15-2011, 09:52 PM
im sorta in the same situation.. but I am able to gain weight.. count your calories it helps a lot.. it is rather tedious tho and requires work to plan out everything.. but its worth it.
hal0g0dv2
01-15-2011, 10:14 PM
gotta eat big to get big, if u have some time go threw the sport and fitness workout thread and look at some of my meals and posts, i did a 100 pound bulk so i know what it takes, have fun
racerman88
01-16-2011, 07:51 PM
pick up some magazines like iron man or muscle & Fitness.
Take a look at the routines that the pro's use and look at the common basic exercises and movements like flat bench presses, incline bench presses or dumbbell presses, squats. Build a routine around those common exercises. Research online as well.
Increase your calorie intake as well.
You can still do cardio at the beginning to get your body warmed up.
AccordCouped
01-16-2011, 09:12 PM
EAT BIG
LIFT BIG
GET BIG
ALL ABOUT CALORIES MY FRIEND
hchang
01-16-2011, 09:20 PM
I'd suggest eating as often as you can.
The trick is not to stuff your face everytime there's food, it's to keep a constant level going. If you ever have the feeling you're hungry, then you're doing it wrong.
sonick
01-17-2011, 07:33 AM
Eat like a horse. Sleep like a baby. Grow like a weed.
Squat and Deadlift.
5x5 routine is a good start: http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
also Starting Strength. Both are fairly similar.
Very simple and quick. Do that, and ONLY that at first. Don't worry about any other exercises for the first little while.
Eat more protein and fat.
Get good, quality sleep. Not 2am to 7am.
BrRsn
01-17-2011, 08:40 AM
EAT
PROTEIN
DEADLIFT
SQUAT
SLEEP
CAPSLOCK SHANKSS
As per above .. if you start taking protein a nice way to add calories to your protein shake is to buy a nice blender (I picked up a kitchenaid 900 watt beast from XS cargo for $50 a few weeks ago) and add some organic peanut butter or organic almond butter (2 teaspoons or however much you like, a jar will last you a week or so and costs $7-$10) and add just a little bit of liquid, liquefy that mofo for a good 30 seconds or so, then start slowly adding protein/more liquid. You should end up with a very creamy + tasty protein shake. I guess this method is common sense to any female, but we as men have a tendency to just add a shitload of stuff then try to blend on high, it doesnt work well that way. Also, this gets rid of any gross protein shake clumps that may be present.
!Yaminashi
01-17-2011, 08:45 AM
I'm gonna guess you have a high metabolism..
The only way to gain weight is eat eat eat eat your face off
What skinnypupp said is right, eating lots of rice and noodles wont do anything for you.
MEAT is your friend, and 3 meals a day probably wont do anything for you, double up what you're eating now
I would recommend eating every 3 hours. Don't eat till you're full every meal, eat about 70%. That way, you still have an appetite for the next meal. You wouldn't want to eat a meal if you're still full from the previous meal.
Cook your own food. Don't wait around for someone's breakfast/lunch/dinner time.
You don't make friends with salad.
RRxtar
01-17-2011, 11:25 AM
Squats, Deadlifts, Milk, Steak.
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 01:01 PM
thanks for all the tips :)
i'll see if it works and come back if something goes wrong lol
!Yaminashi
01-17-2011, 01:08 PM
^The only thing that could possibly go wrong is if your form sucks and you end up hurting yourself. Make sure to start light and work your way up. Dont let your ego get in the way of you making slow but steady progress
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 02:50 PM
yep starting off very light
personally this boosts my self confidence, knowing that im accomplishing something (even tho i know they aren't heavy)
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 05:26 PM
http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/
is this legit
hal0g0dv2
01-17-2011, 05:30 PM
that is legit
i use to drink 4L of choc milk a day lol for over 6 months
The_Situation
01-17-2011, 05:50 PM
that is legit
i use to drink 4L of choc milk a day lol for over 6 months
Did all that chocolate fuck up your skin?
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 05:54 PM
ok time for a month or two of intense milk drinking ..
strykn
01-17-2011, 05:58 PM
ok time for a month or two of intense milk drinking ..
if you barely drink milk, don't start with 4L a day right away... your stomach wont be too happy
hal0g0dv2
01-17-2011, 06:17 PM
Did all that chocolate fuck up your skin?
surprisingly no, i have pretty nice skin, i have been taking fish oil for years that helps your skin and also i take care of my skin
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 06:17 PM
i just drank half of the 2 L carton
holy fml . wanna puke
sonick
01-17-2011, 06:18 PM
ROFL fail.
But good on you for the effort.
PUPPY
01-17-2011, 06:21 PM
maybe i should've waited more than an hour after dinner LOL ..... :failed:
busdriverman
01-17-2011, 06:28 PM
bro i feel you
i am chinese as well and being skinny was a curse that i had to live with my entire life...until now.
i have been working out very casually from about 2006 to 2009, but then i started getting serious.
after eating like a madman (literally 6-7 times a day) and working out at least 3 times a week (no cardio, all weight training, making sure u push yourself hard), i was able to gain around 15 pounds in the last 3 months (from 145 to almost 160lb).
if i can give you any piece of advice, firstly i must stress your diet. you need to be eating LOTS! and the food should not be junk food either. brown rice and whole wheat grains, lean meats (chicken breast is great), yogurts, cheeses, and LOTS of carbs which you will need for energy during workouts (potatoes, pasta, rice). NUTRITION IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN GAINING WEIGHT AS WELL AS LOSING WEIGHT!!
I have also been taking lots of mass gainer (specifically isomass) and it has helped immensely. it is also convenient to take mass gainer because it can act as a meal supplement or as a snack when you have nothing to eat.
find a buddy or buddies to work out with. they will hold you accountable for being at the gym on a regular basis and can also act as motivators and spotters.
DO not do cardio! you will only gain weight by intaking more calories than you are burning!!!
make sure that you are always challenging yourself. if you are lifting 25lbs today, try to do 30lbs next week. if you couldnt do 30lbs, then do a few more reps of 25lbs.
follow these steps that I have outlined for you, and results will come indefinitely.
jeffh
01-17-2011, 09:49 PM
the more information you can gather on the subject the more successful you are going to be
research, diet, and hard work
it takes Serious dedication, but goddamn is it worth it
i went from 145-170 in a year and a half. (5'11")
i cant tell you how much my outlook on life has changed for the better
good luck and have fun
busdriverman
01-17-2011, 11:57 PM
you cannot be afraid to spend some money on food
trips to the grocery store will be a frequent chore once you get really serious.
like others have said, eat like a madman. try to throw in a protein shake or mass gainer here and there just to increase your calorie intake. i like to pound one right before bed.
when you are working out at the gym, do not be discouraged or embarrassed if you can only lift very light. form is the most important thing when weight training, and if you go to the gym consistently, you will notice gains both aesthetically and with your strength.
nobody said it was easy, and it will take time, money and A LOT of discipline to stay on track.
but hell, if it was just that easy, where is all the fun?
I had this problem too. I would eat and eat and eat, lift, lift, and lift, and I wouldn't gain weight.
After lots of reading and researching, I developed my own little plan.
I knew there was no way for me to gain weight eating regular food and protein. I had to take a gainer. I went and bought the biggest gainer I could find, which was 17 pounds of Mutant Mass from Reflex Nutrition. Took 1-3 shakes a day, upped all my meals, and I generally just tried to eat more solid foods constantly. I personally disagree with some people saying cut out cardio and veggies, because without them, all that mass from the extra food/supplements will be stored as fat in the wrong places, and veggies help your body absorb more protein. That's why you see some skinny people that have a bit of a beer belly.
I went from doing cardio 3-4 times a week to 1-2. Also I shortened my gym sessions from an 60-90 minutes to 30-45 minutes. Lowered my reps, increased weights, increased break times. Keep in mind that you will gain a bit of body fat depending on your diet and workout, but that's inevitable if you're looking to put on size.
What sort of eating habits did you have before taking weight gainer?
Weight gainer shakes aren't absolutely necessary. I know, because I used to take it. I stopped like 18 months ago and I still gained weight the old fashioned way: eating more. At least 4 meals a day, with lots of whole foods (chicken, beef, pork), and carbs (pasta, potatoes, vegetables, etc).
BTW, I don't think anybody here said to cut vegetables out.
edit: You burn more calories doing weightlifting than cardio, IIRC.
Oleophobic
01-18-2011, 08:12 PM
http://hanhchampion.blogspot.com/2011/01/how-to-diet.html
http://hanhchampion.blogspot.com/2011/01/progress-2006-2010.html
check this guy out. I found out about him from watching ice1cube's videos.
Anyway that pretty much explains the diet portion.
If you're naturally skinny (ecto) and have trouble gaining weight, then following hanh's plan should be perfect. Damn you ectos....I've spoken to hanh and he never had to cut...because he ate clean and most importantly, he is an ecto with a fast metabolism. Seems like the OP was in the same boat as hanh before he started...
also, if his progress pictures aren't motivation iono what is
xzman
01-21-2011, 02:17 PM
i can relate with this all too well. in my younger days - fresh outta high school - i weighed 119 pounds at 5'10". what worked for me was intense heavy weight training and like other have posted here, ate alot. i also probably overloaded on protein powders, carb drinks, amino acids and all that stuff. never under-estimate the value of supplements. anyways it took some time but 3 years later i weighed in at a solid 185. through constant dedication and training i reached a peak of 220 but i found my agility in other sports was lacking so i came back down to the 190 mark. i sit around 175-180 for the most part these days and am quite content. train hard, take your supplements, get rest, and above all be dedicated. be consistent with your training and you'll see the results. don't get discouraged by other guys who are bigger or stronger - train for your own goals
jdc430
01-21-2011, 03:25 PM
squats and deadlifts
Push-ups and pull-ups
PUPPY
01-22-2011, 10:23 PM
130 lbs .. oh yeeeeeeee
i love milk and squats/deadlifts now
Okami
01-22-2011, 10:39 PM
wow 4L a day is amazing. i went on a milk phase where i was drinking 1L glass bottles everyday.. but after drinking a liter my stomach gets gassy so i only drink .5L a day max :/ im in puppy's situation.. 5'9 115lb
PUPPY
01-22-2011, 10:48 PM
good luck to you okami
drank 8L of milk and did the exercises everyone here recommended . this is some legit shit.. i've gained around 5 lbs this week ! :)
going to try and keep this up until i reach my weight goal
You drank 8 liters since you started, or 8 liters everyday? If it's every day...lol.
When you're working out, make sure you have good form (read the links over and over to get it embedded in your brain). If you maxed out at 135 lbs last time, add 5-10 lbs next time. Eventually, you'll plateau, but since you're so fresh right now, you have a lot of potential to rise quickly. It's a real morale booster when you add weight every time you go workout.
I don't know if this goes without saying or not, but i'll say it any way. Back when I was super noob, I used to think it was only necessary to eat a lot on days I worked out. Stupid, but no one told me different until I read otherwise. So eat consistently, every day, workout or not.
PUPPY
01-23-2011, 12:34 PM
8L for the week, not every day..
Noizz
01-23-2011, 01:40 PM
edit: You burn more calories doing weightlifting than cardio, IIRC.
While the argument here is that your muscles will burn more calories than normal while they repair themselves after your workout; in addition adding more muscle mass overall will also burn even more calories, it has been grossly blown out of proportions.
Everyone's heard of the 30-50 cal per lb of muscle. Lets say an average person is 160lb person @ 15% body fat = 136lb of muscle. 136lb * 50 cal = 6,800 calories required just for upkeep on muscles alone. At 30 cal = 4,080 cal are required per day. Add in calories required for exercising, brain function, walking, sleeping, etc. and this "fact" is quickly disproved. The more realistic number is around 16 cal per lb of lean mass.
Cardio will burn more calories than weightlifting. Don't forgot your muscles require upkeep whether you're doing cardio or weightlifting.
DO not do cardio! you will only gain weight by intaking more calories than you are burning!!!
IMO, don't think of cardio as detrimental to your gains. Cardio will help you lose the fat and define those muscles you've been working so hard to get. A stronger CV system will increase blood flow to your muscles which you will benefit during your workout. Cardio also increases appetite, making you eat more.
Also, no amount of additional muscle will help improve overall stamina, prevent heart diesease, etc.
I went from doing cardio 3-4 times a week to 1-2.
Bingo. To lower the calories burnt while doing cardio but keep the intensity needed to create a strong CV, use high intensity interval training (HIIT). If you're worried about wasting calories, don't run for 40 minutes at a steady pace. Do intervals of light jogging and sprinting. Keep it under 20 minutes and you burn less than 250 cal (depending on body weight), but make sure you get the heart rate up.
Like the fuel system in your car, no matter how big the engine gets, if your pump is working beyond it's capacity then you're limiting your power. And if your injectors are clogged, it's GG. Everything needs to be balanced. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure everyone has different goals but I'm a firm believer of cardio + lifting.
Keep the reps low and lift heavy using compound exercises. If you have a hard time gaining, focus more on weight and form.
Lolkai
01-23-2011, 01:58 PM
i can't pass 2L/day haha
but i have noticed that i've gained a couple of pounds!
i'm 5'11" @ 155lb atm and still packing.
AccordCouped
01-24-2011, 03:06 AM
this helped me alot.. after every meal i'd drink a protein shake..
Prolowtone
01-24-2011, 03:16 AM
I need to get back on the protein shakes, I use to drink them alot. I am 5'8" and 2 weeks ago i was 150, Still trying to figure how the hell i did it but i am down to 132. I felt like crap but i dont think i was that sick...
AccordCouped
01-24-2011, 04:27 AM
Do not recommend doing cardio while bulking. Why? you need excess calories to put on size and by doing cardio you are just burning the calories off. Sure you may improve your cardiovascular system and what not but if you're main focus is trying to put on weight then I suggest dont do it. You can do all the cardio you want when you cut. Trust me
Also, don't think because you're doing cardio,you're going to burn fat and put on muscle at the same time. It doesnt work that way, in order to put on mass you need an excess of calories and to burn fat you need a deficit. They dont go hand in hand, thats why everyone either bulks then does a cut, or cut then bulk. Depends where your body is at
Should drink protein shake after every single work out.. preferably within an hour. Your body's nutrient intake increases after an exercise so you can absorb all those good amino acids rather than peeing them out asaply.
Bit off topic but that hanh champion guy has a e46
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HmMcv8NzDNs/TT0OB6NSJpI/AAAAAAAAADo/qiyWXvJLcac/s320/car2.jpg
Fobman
01-24-2011, 07:35 PM
start going to a gym
Noizz
01-24-2011, 09:41 PM
Do not recommend doing cardio while bulking. Why? you need excess calories to put on size and by doing cardio you are just burning the calories off. Sure you may improve your cardiovascular system and what not but if you're main focus is trying to put on weight then I suggest dont do it. You can do all the cardio you want when you cut. Trust me
Also, don't think because you're doing cardio,you're going to burn fat and put on muscle at the same time. It doesnt work that way, in order to put on mass you need an excess of calories and to burn fat you need a deficit. They dont go hand in hand, thats why everyone either bulks then does a cut, or cut then bulk. Depends where your body is at
While that is very true, just keep in mind that cardiovascular endurance decreases at a much faster rate than muscular strength. The guys who bulk for a couple months with no cardio will have lost most if not all their cardio endurance when they were cutting.
It is possible to lose fat and gain muscle, its just slower than bulking/cutting, but nonetheless possible.
jonwon
02-02-2011, 02:33 PM
used quickmass and recieved a gain of roughly 20 pounds in a 3-4 month period. taken 3 times a day and working out 5 days a week. after that i tried mammoth mass and that stuff was absolute shit, makes you fart and have mad diarrhea (and received no gains whatsoever). and now i've moved on to muscle juice revolution, so far it goes down the best, doesn't chunk up and doesn't make you feel bloated. the guy at popeye's said the main selling point was that it has less sugar and the protein that's used doesn't make you feel bloated.
!Yaminashi
02-02-2011, 02:39 PM
^Mammoth tastes like shit, I dont even know how its even on the market.
Did you gain alot of fat while on gainer?
I don't know..3x a day? I'd rather make those meals.
jonwon
02-02-2011, 06:44 PM
^Mammoth tastes like shit, I dont even know how its even on the market.
Did you gain alot of fat while on gainer?
not really sure if i gained alot of fat cuz i'm pretty lanky to begin with, but it did help with my weight training
I don't know..3x a day? I'd rather make those meals.
I was already eating 4 meals a day during that time. imo it was easier to force down the weight gainer than trying to stuff my face, but thats just personal preference
hal0g0dv2
02-02-2011, 08:59 PM
any increase in calories will help with training, plus if it is coming from carbzzzzzz
PUPPY
03-28-2011, 11:27 PM
just an update:
im at 138 lbs now, 13 lbs more than i was 2 and a half months ago. its getting harder to gain compared to the beginning, but i'm still steadily adding weight.
thanks for all the information when i just started everyone! appreciate it
SpeedZ
03-31-2011, 05:56 PM
Are you working out or anything?
Muscle mass is the heaviest and it looks good so you should go to the gym and work out (:
Workout, Drink Whey and Eat a bit more than maintenance and you're good to go!
LaidbacK
03-31-2011, 09:23 PM
I used to be in the same situation as yourself, skinny, high metabolism and very tough to gain weight.
First off, stop doing cardio. It costs 3500 calories to gain a pound. Eat, eat and eat. Try to eat 5 meals a day rather than 3 big meals. Instead of drinking water, drink milk or juice for those extra calories. Don't forget to hit up the gym or else you'll just get fat lol.
I went from 5"7 @ 135 pounds to 150 pounds through eating a lot, working out, and weight gainer protein.
FUN FACT: Sumo wrestlers eat a HUGE meal and after the feast, they take a nap because when energy is not used, it will be stored as fat for later use!
busdriverman
03-31-2011, 10:34 PM
what are compound exercises?
a compound exercise is one that incorporates the use of more than one muscle. one example is a squat, which activates your hamstring, quads and calves as well. compound exercises are great for gaining weight and overall muscle weight.
honestly, i was in your shoes. i am 5'11 and i weighed 145. i started working out 3-5 times a week, all exercises focusing on lifting heavy. i did not do cardio as it burned too many calories. you only gain weight by having a positive calorie intake (meaning you eat more than you burn).
i started out eating 5-6 meals a day (this could be yogurt, cookies, mass gainer, nuts and milk) and i also took mass gainer after most gym sessions.
i am currently sitting at 163. although i have gotten a bit of a gut, i can see a definite increase in my muscular strength and appearance.
in summation:
-lift heavy. your exercises should be around 6-8 reps as heavy as you can, for 2-3 sets per exercise.
-eat often, but focus on eating healthy and wholesome foods. choose brown rice and whole grain breads over white bread and white rice. choose to eat a baked potato over noodles. choose chicken breast over pork.
-when you lift weights, do not neglect your legs! by working out your legs you are stimulating your testosterone more than by working out your upper body. this increased level of testosterone will in turn help you recover and grow larger muscles faster.
-and the most important. DISCIPLINE. Do not be discouraged if you do not see results in a week. Heck even a month! Keep eating and keep exercising. If you are constantly eating and going to the gym often (and push yourself hard!) there is NO REASON why you would not get stronger and ultimately Bigger!
-and finally: diet is 80% and exercise is 20%. focus on eating. Never feel hungry but never feel full. the goal is to always be comfortable, which allows you to maximize daily caloric intake.
Work hard my friend, and you will reach your goals!
-Clint
chinook79
04-01-2011, 05:48 AM
-when you lift weights, do not neglect your legs! by working out your legs you are stimulating your testosterone more than by working out your upper body. this increased level of testosterone will in turn help you recover and grow larger muscles faster.
-Clint
I heard that many times but really does this really help?
Squats (leg exercise) cause a release of testosterone and growth hormone in the body during exercise, lasting until immediately afterward, then dissipating back to normal levels (Int J Sports Med. 1991 Apr;12(2):228-35). There isn't a lasting increase in these anabolic hormones (meaning, during periods of time where protein synthesis and muscle hypertrophy are actually occurring, anabolic hormone levels will be normal), and there have been no long-term studies on the affects of regular squatting and deadlifting in bodybuilders.
Growth hormone can be temporarily increased in the body from holding your breath or hyperventilating (Int. J. Sports Med. 7:311-315. 1986 ), should bodybuilders start believing this will make a difference in their physique?
A short anabolic response to exhaustive exercise doesn't mean you're now a super muscle building machine and all your muscle groups are gonna start blowing up, and it doesn't mean it can magically make you gain bodyweight.
SkinnyPupp
04-01-2011, 06:04 AM
"boosting testosterone" is not the reason you should need to work your legs.
chinook79
04-01-2011, 11:23 AM
"boosting testosterone" is not the reason you should need to work your legs.
I would most definitely agree with you on this one. However, my point is that many believes working out your legs would magically boost testosterone thus helping you to get bigger faster when there's no scientific proof supporting this.
BrRsn
04-01-2011, 08:52 PM
I would most definitely agree with you on this one. However, my point is that many believes working out your legs would magically boost testosterone thus helping you to get bigger faster when there's no scientific proof supporting this.
Squats involve a fair amount of core strength, high core strength can translate to bigger numbers in other areas due to increased stability. It's pretty fair to assume that gaining strength anywhere on your body will be nothing but advantageous to your training.
Plus you won't look goofy with big shoulders and no legs, and working out your legs gives you a high no other muscle group matches.
chinook79
04-02-2011, 05:13 AM
Squats involve a fair amount of core strength, high core strength can translate to bigger numbers in other areas due to increased stability. It's pretty fair to assume that gaining strength anywhere on your body will be nothing but advantageous to your training.
Plus you won't look goofy with big shoulders and no legs, and working out your legs gives you a high no other muscle group matches.
yes exactly! I love doing squats for this reason, not in a hope that it'll magically boost testosterone or HGH as many people believes or were misled to believe
PUPPY
04-24-2011, 12:16 AM
Are you working out or anything?
Muscle mass is the heaviest and it looks good so you should go to the gym and work out (:
Workout, Drink Whey and Eat a bit more than maintenance and you're good to go!
yeah im doing ss
BaoTurbo
04-25-2011, 11:35 AM
Im in the same situation. Sitting at 6' and 125lb. I know I'm considered pretty bad, but its not my choice and it runs in the family to be skinny. I'm sick and tired of being small and not being able to wear jeans because of my skinny waistline and long legs. No pair of jeans in the average market will fit me easily.
I need someone to point me in the right direction as to which mass gainer to take, cost, and how much it costs. I personally don't want to take it up until this point, because I'm afraid fat will gain at wrong places. I'm also looking to increase bone mass, waste size, face fat/cheek bones, and of course muscle mass. Also another thing is if I need protein shakes.
Lately I have been off track, but my body still has its structure because I have worked out regularly as an amateur in the past, and I also have had intense training in badminton. If anyone knows about badminton, it's all about 70% stamina/cardio vs 30% strength. I'm also more of pinner person because of my training and I rarely work on legs because badminton takes care of that.
Plan 1) was to go to the oval and do some research to do stuff in better form and how to work out. Also how much to take protein shakes or shakes in general. I love the oval and I won't go anywhere else because it's worth the money and the investment in the facilities. It will be great if someone could literally guide me at the oval, sort of like a mentor, but I know that can't be always the case
Plan 2) was to go to TCC and get a personal trainer (cheaper I believe) to know all the good forms and proper way to work out, then when I have the knowledge after a month, I move to the oval because I still like it there.
Obviously Plan 1 is cheaper if someone could help me out and it would help a lot. I'm pretty serious about this and I'm ready to take on whatever it costs to show some real good results, but also to get things as low costs as possible because I will be paying everyone alone
jaebomb
04-25-2011, 11:44 AM
^ I go to the oval regularly and tcc I could help you out!PM me
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Im in the same situation. Sitting at 6' and 125lb. I know I'm considered pretty bad, but its not my choice and it runs in the family to be skinny. I'm sick and tired of being small and not being able to wear jeans because of my skinny waistline and long legs. No pair of jeans in the average market will fit me easily.
I need someone to point me in the right direction as to which mass gainer to take, cost, and how much it costs. I personally don't want to take it up until this point, because I'm afraid fat will gain at wrong places. I'm also looking to increase bone mass, waste size, face fat/cheek bones, and of course muscle mass. Also another thing is if I need protein shakes.
Lately I have been off track, but my body still has its structure because I have worked out regularly as an amateur in the past, and I also have had intense training in badminton. If anyone knows about badminton, it's all about 70% stamina/cardio vs 30% strength. I'm also more of pinner person because of my training and I rarely work on legs because badminton takes care of that.
Plan 1) was to go to the oval and do some research to do stuff in better form and how to work out. Also how much to take protein shakes or shakes in general. I love the oval and I won't go anywhere else because it's worth the money and the investment in the facilities. It will be great if someone could literally guide me at the oval, sort of like a mentor, but I know that can't be always the case
Plan 2) was to go to TCC and get a personal trainer (cheaper I believe) to know all the good forms and proper way to work out, then when I have the knowledge after a month, I move to the oval because I still like it there.
Obviously Plan 1 is cheaper if someone could help me out and it would help a lot. I'm pretty serious about this and I'm ready to take on whatever it costs to show some real good results, but also to get things as low costs as possible because I will be paying everyone alone
Easier to workout with a friend who know what they are doing. Why spend money on a trainer when you can get information for free? There is the internet, peers and people at the gym that can easily help you out. I am currently on a weight gainer too, Ultimate Nutrition's isomass: xtreme weightgainer. I got a tub of 10 pounds for 80$ at xfuel on boundary. It contains creatine, gulamine and significant amount of protein for me to get it. I had a friend who used to take it and I decided it may work for me too. I started out at 5'8 140 pounds and 3-4 weeks later, I am at 155 pounds with big gain in muscle and weight. There are plently of websites to help you out, as example: http://www.nowloss.com/how-to-gain-muscle-mass-lose-fat-fast-at-same-time.htm, and the bodybuilding forums. Each day of workout should focus on a specific muscle, my routine is: Back, Chest + Tris, Arms(Bi,Tris+Forearm), Legs, Shoulder + Abs, and sometimes cardio.
I used to be like you guys, thinking it was necessary to take weight gainer in order to gain weight. Really, it's not the case. Eating real food is an absolute better idea than weight gainer shakes.
Eat pasta, beef, chicken, potatoes, etc.
However, if you insist on taking weight gainer, just remember it's a supplement to real food, not a replacement.
SkinnyPupp
04-25-2011, 05:45 PM
I used to be like you guys, thinking it was necessary to take weight gainer in order to gain weight. Really, it's not the case. Eating real food is an absolute better idea than weight gainer shakes.
Eat pasta, beef, chicken, potatoes, etc.
However, if you insist on taking weight gainer, just remember it's a supplement to real food, not a replacement.
Exactly. Gorging yourself on corn starch can not be good for your body in so many ways.
BaoTurbo
04-25-2011, 06:16 PM
Thanks. First on the agenda is buying the gainer. I'll get the protein later from food or juice, then I'll see if I can afford protein shakes as well. Then nearing the end of the month I'm going to sign up for the continuous pass for Oval and see how that will turn out
SkinnyPupp
04-25-2011, 06:52 PM
After all these people tell you it's a bad idea, the FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA is to do it... Go you :thumbsup:
Here's an idea, instead of eating a 500 calorie gainer where most of the calories are from unhealthy starch and bad oil, go buy a flat of coconut milk in small cartons, several jars of different nut butters, a few bottles of fish oil, and some protein blends (not pure whey, get blends). If you match the calories with these ingredients, you will gain weight just as well (if not better), have more energy, better blood profile (lower cholesterol) and won't fuck up your metabolism.
That covers the supplement part. The rest is up to you - eat high quality, non-lean meat all the time, with lots of veggies and veggie juice.
And don't join a gym with the intention of "seeing how it will work out". Join the gym, find a good mass program, and work out like a fucking boss.
hal0g0dv2
04-26-2011, 11:21 AM
^^^ cant get much clear on that I never used a weight gainer well monster mass for a week but yeah the rest was food and food and yeah food
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BaoTurbo
04-26-2011, 12:42 PM
So don't go on gainers cuz its not all that healthy. Go on not pure whey. Buddy I'm literally a noob to this stuff and idk whats in gainers or whey or what is whey protein.
sonick
04-26-2011, 12:53 PM
Whey is the liquid that is left over from cheese making (e.g. little miss muffet sat on her tuffet eating her curds and whey). Whey protein is the protein from that liquid.
SkinnyPupp
04-26-2011, 02:24 PM
You don't really need to worry that much about supplements. Just eat lots (and lots) of food.
Fobman
04-26-2011, 02:51 PM
baoturbo.. to bad u quit fitnessworld i could have been ur workout partner lol
only reason why i bought a weight gainer because it has everything i needed in it :D creatine, gulamine, protein and calories for a relatively cheap price, but what skinnypup said is correct too, eat eat and eat more. eat 6 smaller meals rather than 2-3 big meals, its better for your metabolism.
BaoTurbo
04-26-2011, 05:17 PM
baoturbo.. to bad u quit fitnessworld i could have been ur workout partner lol
the stuff at fitness world is really old lol. the guys there are pretty pro there too. i like oval cuz its bigger, newer stuff, and more facilities.
only reason why i bought a weight gainer because it has everything i needed in it :D creatine, gulamine, protein and calories for a relatively cheap price, but what skinnypup said is correct too, eat eat and eat more. eat 6 smaller meals rather than 2-3 big meals, its better for your metabolism.
Thing is I tried food. It doesn't really work as much plus I hate eating constantly. I have never, ever tried supplements and I really want to give it a shot to see if there are results. I hope it's not really unhealthy, but at least I want to give supplements a real shot to see if it can help a little bit. Not even hoping for crazy results, but at least I tried it.
That's why I was looking foward to a real good supplement that I can try at first. I mean everyone seemed to try supplements and it does something at least, now I guess it's my turn to try.
yellowpower
04-26-2011, 07:40 PM
I was like you once... i used to be around 155 at 5'11. And to tell you the truth, you do not need any supplements to become big. I always thought how lucky it was for others who were bigger than me to eat so much and have so much strength. So around three months ago, i started to seriously try and hit the gym at school almost once a day and even sometimes twice a day. Now, at about 3 and a half months later, I am at 175 lbs or just a little under.
About two summers ago, I was really wanting to gain weight. I took weight gainer with a scoop of ice cream and I saw tremendous results, but the thing is i never worked out so i just became thicker and fatter, which is what i wanted. The thing was though, i didnt always have money for protein and i thought high quality protein was the only type of protein i should take, but i was wrong. So after all this, in about half a month, i went from 160 to about 150 again which was where i started.
Fast forward to the beginning of my three months. Instead of using costco protein, i convinced myself to try out high quality whey, so i got on ON Whey (i dont know why). And in fact i did start seeing results but they werent tremendous. I always thought that once i took protein i would have to keep taking it to sustain my size and again i was wrong. So after i finished my hella expensive tub of ON Whey, i started using costco whey because after all they are the exact same thing - whey protein isolates.
The only thing bad about costco whey, the taste. THat was it. I saw no difference in the change from ON to Costco brand whey. Throughout all this i started to see gains, i was significantly more toned and I gained about ten pounds , sitting at 165 by then.
While i was taking the costo brand whey i was actually getting bored of the taste because it just straight up tasted like ass. So, I started to take weight gainer again. I took it about twice a day and it was ok. I started packing on more muscle faster and the added sugar in the weight gainer added a bit more mass on me too which i liked alot.
Then i found something out. As a student, it is hard to commit to working out and drinking protein enough times a day however, I was able to eat properly still due to my parents cookign for me. What i find funny now is that when i look at food i can actually tell which ones i should eat for whatever kind of effect. If i look at chicken, all i see is protein i dont really care about the taste. For fried food or anything fatten i gobble it up anyways since i am bulking etc etc, and at the same time i can estimate the carbs.
So anyways, lol from missing routine protein shakes and shit, i thought i would falter in weight, but i didnt! In fact, all i did was workout, drink the protein shake ONCE and eat eat eat and eat. Compared to before when i eat now for example, i could probably eat about one and a half steaks for dinner, now i could probably eat 3 plus rice and corn and other shit. It may not be much to some others out there but i am still gaining and I really have seen a big difference.
Now currently I am not taking any supplements except one scoop after working out. It very likely does not do much for me but it just makes me feel better since its like a ritual by now haha. I have not worked out in about five days and I am about to go crazy!!! I have not eaten once scoop of weight gainer but my body has not gone down in weight at all. In fact, since 170, i have not had too much protein intake other than after workouts, and i have been gaining quite well.
Hope u got something out of that!
jack3d
04-27-2011, 02:49 AM
eat mcdonalds.. and kill it at the gym everytime no joke.. I put on 25 pounds in 10 months by doing that. Stayed relatively lean as well
The_Situation
04-27-2011, 09:52 AM
^ ... not sure if serious
BrRsn
04-27-2011, 11:14 AM
^ ... not sure if serious
I think he is. Especially for pinner guys its a shitload of calories they can't get anyway else. Or eat a double double from triple o's 3x a day. So fucking good, 1500 calories for a meal. NOM NOM NOM NOM.
PUPPY
04-27-2011, 06:52 PM
wow this thread is still alive?
eat mcdonalds.. and kill it at the gym everytime no joke.. I put on 25 pounds in 10 months by doing that. Stayed relatively lean as well
this. dirty bulk it up bro. eat anything in sight, even if its mc d. 4000+ calories a day and lift heavy 3x a week. gain weight put on muscle, worry about the fat later.
hal0g0dv2
04-27-2011, 08:55 PM
^^ that can be good and bad, most ppl dirty bulk and fail cut so they are stuck with a shitty body lol and never will look good
jack3d
04-29-2011, 05:33 AM
^ ... not sure if serious
lol, im serious. it might not be the most healthiest thing to do but i was pinner as hell and couldnt care less. ive had a great bulk by eating anything in sight like a beast, i loved bulking.
Berzerker
04-29-2011, 06:20 AM
I eat a fuckload of fast food when I'm bulking up. To much a pain in the ass to cook at home all the time and I'm just to fucking lazy. Half my diet if not more consists of fast food.
Berz out.
Supafly
04-29-2011, 06:50 AM
I eat everything i see.....I just balance that shit out with cardio and cardio kickboxing....3 weeks and i've gone up 4lbs. No belly insight...
sonick
04-29-2011, 08:12 AM
Thumbs up for dirty bulk. Not for everybody, but effective in ectomorphs who aren't used to eating enough since they can relatively cut back on calories when cutting since they've been eating less all their lives.
Mark Rippetoe agrees:
And folks, for weight-gaining purposes, "eating clean" is not a useful concept. Big Macs are.
I have bought 4-6 double cheeseburgers and thrown away the bread many times. But I think they just raised the price from $1 to $1.25. Rapists.
You guys that worry about eating clean are actually merely bodybuilders looking for justification for your obsession with abs. You cannot get big and strong on 3000 kcal/day. And you cannot eat 7000/day and eat perfectly "clean".
BaoTurbo
04-29-2011, 01:51 PM
I'll start with the pass at the oval first. Then move on to other things like supplements. First month I'll try food and lots of it. I will be coaching badminton so I still have to move around and do cardio, that's taken care of all the fat.
illicitstylz
04-29-2011, 02:30 PM
badminton =/= cardio unless you're non stop running and having your heart rate elevated constantly for 20-30 minutes.
V4NC1TY
04-29-2011, 07:55 PM
eat a well-balanced meal every 2-3 hours
lift heavy for muscle mass
consume lots of protein
hotong
04-29-2011, 11:08 PM
You don't have to do a dirty bulk.. i've put on 15 pounds of lean mass with little to no fat over 4-5 months on a clean bulk.
jack3d
04-30-2011, 05:04 AM
You don't have to do a dirty bulk.. i've put on 15 pounds of lean mass with little to no fat over 4-5 months on a clean bulk.
true, you dont have to but its easier. eating healthy can be expensive and sometimes more time consuming, always cooking meals etc. nothing wrong with dirty bulking just try to watch how many calories youre taking it and it should limit how much fat you put on
BaoTurbo
05-01-2011, 11:34 AM
Side note. I smoke occasionally so I do lose my appetite sometimes especially when I do have work which stresses me out a little, then I smoke more, which relieves some of that, but I lose my appetite for food and I can eat like a meal a day. Real harsh
tommy69
05-05-2011, 06:04 PM
one easy way to gain alot of weight its called MUTANT MASS its a weight gainer heard its crazy like for 2 scoops its got like 2000 calories or somthing
The_Situation
05-05-2011, 06:22 PM
^ its actually like 4 scoops for 1000 cals. Honestly just GOMAD. A gallon of milk a day. Might be hard at first, but you'll get use to it.
Yea dude when I was bulking up 2 winters ago I gained 30 lbs in 2 months drinking 1000cal x 2 weight gainers a day and extra 1 more right after working out plus 3000 calorie meals... it's nuts. Too bad i lost all of it after i dislocated my shoulder and quit for like a year, coming back to working out sucks balls cuz i can only lift half of what i used to rofl
one easy way to gain alot of weight its called MUTANT MASS its a weight gainer heard its crazy like for 2 scoops its got like 2000 calories or somthing
mutant mass is one of the hardest thing to gulp down ever lol
BaoTurbo
05-05-2011, 11:23 PM
^ its actually like 4 scoops for 1000 cals. Honestly just GOMAD. A gallon of milk a day. Might be hard at first, but you'll get use to it.
Going mad sounds dangerous which is what I'm afraid of LOL or I'm just paranoid
hal0g0dv2
05-06-2011, 10:56 PM
go mad it prob the best thing a beginner can do that is looking to bulk the first time , dont listen to me tho k
!Yaminashi
05-18-2011, 11:41 AM
I seriously think I'm in need of a meal plan or something. It is next to impossible for me to gain weight, even with home made gainers FML
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guesskid
05-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Alot of protein and working out would help
But if you have family metabolism , nothing would really help!
could you guys recommend what I need to eat everyday? My job is 8-10hrs a day and its basically non-stop cardio for me which even makes me lose more weight..I am very light, embarassed about my weight sometimes. Completely desperate. I've taken quickmass, gained about 5lbs but it all went away.
Should I just do squats, dead lifts for the beginning and drink lots of whole milk? thanks
Supafly
07-14-2011, 06:17 AM
could you guys recommend what I need to eat everyday? My job is 8-10hrs a day and its basically non-stop cardio for me which even makes me lose more weight..I am very light, embarassed about my weight sometimes. Completely desperate. I've taken quickmass, gained about 5lbs but it all went away.
Should I just do squats, dead lifts for the beginning and drink lots of whole milk? thanks
eat more, and add a few protein shakes in between. Don't drink weight gainer....full of shit...
hal0g0dv2
07-16-2011, 05:46 PM
could you guys recommend what I need to eat everyday? My job is 8-10hrs a day and its basically non-stop cardio for me which even makes me lose more weight..I am very light, embarassed about my weight sometimes. Completely desperate. I've taken quickmass, gained about 5lbs but it all went away.
Should I just do squats, dead lifts for the beginning and drink lots of whole milk? thanks
here you go
2 cup of oats with peanut butte, you can make that a easy 700 calories break fest, have a shake with whole milk on top, boom there you go your are at 1000calories
dude gaining weight is a bitch and you are going to have to eat lots of food and eat allot
PK6o4*
07-16-2011, 06:21 PM
is there any healthy alternative to peanut butter, i have allergies to it
:okay:
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sonick
07-16-2011, 06:24 PM
is there any healthy alternative to peanut butter, i have allergies to it : okay :
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Who cares about anaphylactic shock you PUSSY, you won't get RIPPED if you have that kind of attitude!!!!!! Eat that peanut butter and get SWOLE BRAH.
PK6o4*
07-16-2011, 06:26 PM
dude id vomit and lose everything i just ate
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sonick
07-16-2011, 06:28 PM
lol I'm kidding, man.
hal0g0dv2
07-16-2011, 07:47 PM
shit man that is brutal, peanuts butter is key..........
i have no answers
strykn
07-16-2011, 08:03 PM
LOL, I haven't touched peanut butter in 2 years... oh snap I guess i'll be 130lbs forever... .. .. . .. :alone: :okay:
:troll:
Fcukedd
07-16-2011, 08:09 PM
here you go
2 cup of oats with peanut butte, you can make that a easy 700 calories break fest, have a shake with whole milk on top, boom there you go your are at 1000calories
dude gaining weight is a bitch and you are going to have to eat lots of food and eat allot
To be honest, I have never heard of oats LOL
Is it just oatmeal?
hal0g0dv2
07-17-2011, 07:43 AM
Well it's oats then u make oatmeal with hot water
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bcedhk
07-17-2011, 08:20 AM
i usually do the Peanutbutter + steelcut oats for breakfast. makes you super full , but you feel great throughout the day.
Then in between I add a protein shake and some random food (not picky, but something 'healthy' like a sandwich).
When i had school/work during the whole day, i would just bring my shaker cup + a few bags of pre-measured protein. that way i have the stuff on the go and is easy to pack.
here you go
2 cup of oats with peanut butte, you can make that a easy 700 calories break fest, have a shake with whole milk on top, boom there you go your are at 1000calories
dude gaining weight is a bitch and you are going to have to eat lots of food and eat allot
By cup, do you mean a single 250 ml serving?
strykn
07-17-2011, 11:37 AM
2cups oats with 2% milk
3 eggs with 10 egg whites
12oz breast
pasta with groundbeef in sauce
milk
6oz breast
cup brown rice
milk
workout
2scoopswhey with milk
bananna
white bagel
steak
6oz breast
cup of brown rice
milk
1.5cups of 93% ++lean beef
milk
Cashews
1scoop whey
=GETBIG!!
illicitstylz
07-17-2011, 12:10 PM
Alot of protein and working out would help
But if you have family metabolism , nothing would really help!
Whats your goals? Whats your measurements? Post some pictures. We all started out somewhere and we are all a family on this site. Here to encourage and give advice if you need it. We can even give you a kick in the pants if that is what you need. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get.
So glad you posted a pic. Quads look solid and strong. Also looks like you're pretty strong under all that. You probably have the potential to blow all us guys away. Keep us all posted on your continued progress. Want to see a progress pic every 4 weeks. And no crying allowed.
You may not think you are in peak physical condition but dude - you rock. Great chest, back, shoulders, traps and the fact that you abs responded like that just after one workout. You suck! If I worked out with you. I'd have to find a place to bury the body.LOL Seriously - Keep me posted with your progress. Every 4 weeks. Front, back and legs.
Freakin' awesome. As I looked at your all your pics. I was a mix of bitter, jealous and completely blown away. Awesome bod. You show very well and I still haven't found any flaws. I'd give my left nut to look like that. Look forward to more pics and hopefully a vid clip.
Awesome pics. Not sure you wanted comments on all your pics individually or if this will suffice. Awesome work. Great progress. Keep us all posted of your continued success and any new pics or vids.
SupMKIV
07-17-2011, 01:25 PM
To the people that are allergic another alternative is almond butter.
Gaining weight is somewhat of a bitch but really. In this year starting from january I have gained about 20 pounds. I'm bulking to 200 at 5'8 then cutting to 185. at around 8-10% bf. Then back up to 200 clean bulk. just around 24 more pounds to go till 200 :s
Gerbs
08-30-2011, 08:54 PM
im going to start working out im 5"7 and 120lbs, i got the diet down, what would be an ideal routine at the gym?
jeffh
08-30-2011, 09:34 PM
the whole 5x5 thing is getting a lot of rave reviews around here
also the rip-toe starting strength thing
ive never tried either tho, Rrxtar just tells me what to do
the key is getting your good compounds in, squat, dead-lift, bench press,
rows, wide and narrow chin ups, military press
find a way to make all those compounds happen throughout the week, but not in a manner where being fatigued from one would effect the other (we put 3 days in between squat and dead-lift for example)
PUPPY
08-30-2011, 10:06 PM
im going to start working out im 5"7 and 120lbs, i got the diet down, what would be an ideal routine at the gym?
the key to this stage is eating . you want to get every last calorie you can, even mcdonalds works .
try Starting Strength if you don't mind the boring setup , or AllPro's routine if you like doing accessory exercises on top of your compound lifts. Both are great programs for beginners for strength/size .
SS
Workout A
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Deadlift 1x5
Workout B
Squat 3x5
Press 3x5
Power Clean 5x3
***Rippetoe's Starting Strength FAQ*** - Bodybuilding.com Forums (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=131379243)
AllPro's
Squats
Bench Presses
Bent-Over Rows
Overhead Barbell Presses
Stiff-Legged Deadlifts
Barbell Curls
Calf Raises
You will be running this program on a five week cycle as follows:
The first week do all 4 sets for 8 reps.
The second week do all 4 sets for 9 reps.
The third week do all 4 sets for 10 reps.
The fourth week do all 4 sets for 11 reps.
The fifth week do all 4 sets for 12 reps.
If you got all of the required reps on the fifth week then increase the weight by 10% and
repeat the cycle. If you didn't get all of the reps on the fifth week then repeat the cycle with the same weight. You shouldn't need more than one minute rest between the warm up sets and you shouldn't need more than one minute thirty seconds between the work sets.
Do some cardio and abs work on non weight training days.
A Simple Beginner's Routine - Bodybuilding.com Forums (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4195843)
Gerbs
08-30-2011, 10:17 PM
do i do both workout a and b in the same day?
Fcukedd
08-30-2011, 11:09 PM
No you alternate the workouts every other day
Monday - Workout A
Wednesday - Workout B
Friday - Workout A
Monday - Workout B
Etc
Death2Theft
08-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Sweet so this thread justifies me eating a dozen krispy kremes in an hour. Whats the max fat per day for a clean bulk? Is there a getting cut thread on RS as well after bulking up?
V4NC1TY
08-31-2011, 11:37 PM
i'm freakin' puny shit, 5' 4" weighing in at 120 lbs
i started working out in December of 2010
anybody have any tips to bulk up? :D
i want to reach 130 before the new year .. is it possible? LOl
Fcukedd
08-31-2011, 11:51 PM
YOU EATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FUUUUARRRRKKKKKK so tired of constantly seeing this question come up
oh, and compound movements to ensure the most amount of muscle gained
yes gaining 10lbs in 4 months can be easily done
PUPPY
09-01-2011, 12:46 AM
try GOMAD
it actually works if you can handle all the milk and aren't afraid of packing a little bit of bodyfat
25 lbs / a month
zubairali
09-01-2011, 02:27 PM
here is the link for GOMAD! GOMAD: How to Gain 25lbs in 25 Days with Squats & Milk | StrongLifts.com (http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/)
Death2Theft
09-02-2011, 11:01 AM
I just dont see the whole point behind people taking powders and milk to bulk up, just enjoy eating and eat real food imo.
mkings
09-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Who doesn't want to look sexy and feel a sense of accomplishment in the summer after their cut?
mkings
09-02-2011, 11:32 AM
Perfect thread for hardgainers and lightweights. Yes.
Death2Theft
09-08-2011, 08:15 PM
Make sure after eating a huge meal to go straight to bed.
Razor Ramon HG
09-09-2011, 02:24 AM
Gonna try this GOMAD shit on Monday.
Fucking lactase pills are expensive as fuck, FUUUUUUU!
mkings
09-09-2011, 03:20 PM
Can't handle GOMAD, 2LOMAD work for me :D (2L of milk a day LLOL)
Fcukedd
09-09-2011, 04:14 PM
^ you're supposed to ease yourself into it.
From Stronglifts:
How to Make GOMAD Easier. If you're 110lbs/55kg GOMAD will be hard at first. You might feel bloated. Solution is similar to StrongLifts 5x5: start light and add milk progressively.
Week 1: eat every 3 hours, apply the 8 nutrition rules.
Week 2: eat every 3 hours + ¼ gallon whole milk a day
Week 3: eat every 3 hours + ½ gallon whole milk a day
Week 4: eat every 3 hours + ¾ gallon whole milk a day
Week 5: eat every 3 hours + 1 gallon whole milk a day
This gives your body time to adapt. Drawback: weight gain is slower since it takes 4 weeks before you're drinking 1 gallon of whole milk daily.
subordinate
09-10-2011, 01:23 AM
Gonna try this GOMAD shit on Monday.
Fucking lactase pills are expensive as fuck, FUUUUUUU!
If you are seriously going to do GOMAD, I'm not sure lactase pills will be 100% effective. Putting your lactase-less body in shock with a gallon of homo milk is intense.
I would buy lactaid drops and do that instead. Prob cheaper too.
hal0g0dv2
09-10-2011, 08:35 AM
Gonna try this GOMAD shit on Monday.
Fucking lactase pills are expensive as fuck, FUUUUUUU!
how much are the pills, not that i am lactose problem just wondering
About $20 for 120 capsules at Costco. Not expensive, IMO.
subordinate
09-10-2011, 11:43 AM
About $20 for 120 capsules at Costco. Not expensive, IMO.
If hes drinking milk 4 times, throughout the day (to equal a gallon), i figure at least 2 capsules each time. 8 capsules per day, so it can go pretty fast
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Well I'm pretty sensitive to milk, and I only need 1 pill at a time.
Let's assume he drinks milk 6x a day, 1 pill per serving. That would mean he would have a supply long enough for 20 days. Pretty good, IMO. Far cheaper than lactaid pills from Superstore.
Let's take this a step further. He's aiming for a gallon of milk a day; that's almost a 4L jug. A 4L jug of homo milk is around $4.75 at Superstore typically. Multiply that by 7 days, he's spending almost $34 a week alone on milk.
20 days worth of milk is about $95.
Don't go out to eat so much, abstain from alcohol, and you can easily meet those financial requirements.
Death2Theft
09-10-2011, 03:16 PM
I bet a gallon of milk farts a day smells great.
V4NC1TY
09-11-2011, 02:00 PM
damn this GOMAD thing sounds good. i have a high metabolism and it's extremely hard for me to eat a lot .. i've been hovering around 120 lbs for a year and a half now, no significant gains/losses. every time i try to eat more, my body just won't take it and i'll feel like puking it out
this diet is probably gonna give me a pot belly or some shit .. but idc, i'm tryna gain weight :fuckthatshit: gonna give it a try
Fcukedd
09-11-2011, 02:15 PM
^ Make sure you drink your gallon, as well as meeting at least your caloric maintenance from food. 3500 - 4500 calories for a 120lb person, keep it up for 25 days and you'll gain a lot. Easier said than done though, I quit GOMAD after the 2nd week LOL :fuckthatshit:
LsquareD
09-11-2011, 02:26 PM
I might give the GOMAD a try. I need to gain weight!
strykn
09-11-2011, 02:52 PM
lol you noobs if u think gomad is the silver bullet to putting some mass on your skinny ass think again ull all be disappointed
strykn
09-11-2011, 02:53 PM
damn this GOMAD thing sounds good. i have a high metabolism and it's extremely hard for me to eat a lot .. i've been hovering around 120 lbs for a year and a half now, no significant gains/losses. every time i try to eat more, my body just won't take it and i'll feel like puking it out
this diet is probably gonna give me a pot belly or some shit .. but idc, i'm tryna gain weight :fuckthatshit: gonna give it a try
my freind says the same thing and ill tell u the same thing
stop being a bitch.
TouringTeg
09-14-2011, 02:37 PM
I have been doing Stronglifts 5x5 since Nov 2010. I did GOMAD and went from 175 to 185 lbs at 6'0"
As of Sept 13th, 2011 (All 5x5 except deadlift 1x5).
Squat has gone from 160 -> 260
Deadlift 135 -> 300,
Bench Press 130->185
Overhead Press 95-> 125
I am sitting at 185 right now and will probably do GOMAD again to get to 195 then cut again. Fun times.
I would recommend Stronglifts 5x5 and GOMAD to anyone. I had no problem with 4L of Homo milk a day. It actually gets easier and you end up craving milk!
kunoman1
09-21-2011, 07:24 PM
I personally think a large portion of gaining weight is to do with diet and like sleep. When I dont get much sleep I feel as if I tend to gain more like fat, feel more exhausted overall and have worse skin (don't ask I hate it...)
Or...you could just go the supplements path and load up on creatine and heavy protiens like (seemingly) the majority of people trying to gain weight.
hal0g0dv2
09-22-2011, 07:36 AM
I personally think a large portion of gaining weight is to do with diet and like sleep. When I dont get much sleep I feel as if I tend to gain more like fat, feel more exhausted overall and have worse skin (don't ask I hate it...)
Or...you could just go the supplements path and load up on creatine and heavy protiens like (seemingly) the majority of people trying to gain weight.
You wont gain much oh protein powder
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hal0g0dv2
09-22-2011, 07:37 AM
I have been doing Stronglifts 5x5 since Nov 2010. I did GOMAD and went from 175 to 185 lbs at 6'0"
As of Sept 13th, 2011 (All 5x5 except deadlift 1x5).
Squat has gone from 160 -> 260
Deadlift 135 -> 300,
Bench Press 130->185
Overhead Press 95-> 125
I am sitting at 185 right now and will probably do GOMAD again to get to 195 then cut again. Fun times.
I would recommend Stronglifts 5x5 and GOMAD to anyone. I had no problem with 4L of Homo milk a day. It actually gets easier and you end up craving milk!
I would shake your hand if I could right now
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spideyv2
09-22-2011, 10:43 AM
Those stronglift routines actually work?
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sonick
09-22-2011, 10:44 AM
Yes. Stronglifts is very legit.
TouringTeg
09-22-2011, 10:59 AM
^x2
I get people telling me I look bigger all the time. It gives you a strong core and wider back/shoulders. I love that it is 3 days a week. I use a spreadsheet to track my progress.
strykn
09-22-2011, 11:01 AM
I have been doing Stronglifts 5x5 since Nov 2010. I did GOMAD and went from 175 to 185 lbs at 6'0"
As of Sept 13th, 2011 (All 5x5 except deadlift 1x5).
Squat has gone from 160 -> 260
Deadlift 135 -> 300,
Bench Press 130->185
Overhead Press 95-> 125
I am sitting at 185 right now and will probably do GOMAD again to get to 195 then cut again. Fun times.
I would recommend Stronglifts 5x5 and GOMAD to anyone. I had no problem with 4L of Homo milk a day. It actually gets easier and you end up craving milk!
GOOD JOB MAN, u are doing what many can't do:)
TouringTeg
09-22-2011, 12:27 PM
Thanks a lot halo and strykn.
Every time I thought I was going to hit a plateau, I would rest for a day and break through within a couple of trys. Stronglifts takes time and perseverance, but it definitely pays off.
i think after reading ame's post, im pretty set on trying 5x5. for some reason, my routine just seems so monotonous now after getting back from a small break.
Seems like a lot of people are trying to break the 3 plate deadlift and squat plateau.
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TouringTeg
09-22-2011, 08:52 PM
Jer you won't regret it. I like it that it's 3 days a week. You always have at least 48hrs rest between workouts to recover. It's also motivating every time you set a new personal best.
Yep I am trying to break 3 plate deadlift. Tried it tonight for the first time and only did 2 reps with bad form.
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