[RacePace]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/17/scientists-trying-to-clone-resurrect-extinct-mammoth/?hpt=T2

Instead of Jurassic Park, try Pleistocene Park.

A team of scientists from Japan, Russia and the United States hopes to clone a mammoth, a symbol of Earth’s ice age that ended 12,000 years ago, according to a report in Japan’s Yomiuri Shimbun. The researchers say they hope to produce a baby mammoth within six years.

The scientists say they will extract DNA from a mammoth carcass that has been preserved in a Russian laboratory and insert it into the egg cells of an African elephant in hopes of producing a mammoth embryo.

The team is being led by Akira Iritani, a professor emeritus at Kyoto University in Japan. He has built upon research from Teruhiko Wakayama of Kobe's Riken Center for Developmental Biology, who successfully cloned a mouse from cells that had been frozen for 16 years, to devise a technique to extract egg nuclei without damaging them, according to the Yomiuri report.

The U.S. researchers are in vitro fertilization experts. They, along with Kinki University professor Minoru Miyashita, will be responsible for implanting the mammoth embryo into an African elephant, the report said.

"If a cloned embryo can be created, we need to discuss, before transplanting it into the womb, how to breed [the mammoth] and whether to display it to the public," Iritani told Yomiuri. "After the mammoth is born, we'll examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors."

http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4870025/MY-MIND-IS-FULL-OF-FUCK.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=jackie-chan

[-EuroRSN-]

I wanna check out this Kinki University :troll:

[TheKingdom2000]

Wow. That is incredible
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I wanna check out this Kinki University :troll:

watch out they might try to clone u next

[bloodmack]

watch out they might try to clone u next

im pretty sure its not to hard to clone stupid :troll:

[gdoh]

reminds me of the scientist from south park lol

[Soundy]

"Oooh! Ahhh! That's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming."

[shenmecar]

http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4870025/MY-MIND-IS-FULL-OF-FUCK.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=jackie-chan

:haha::haha::haha::haha:

[twitchyzero]

http://arthropoda.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/john-hammond.jpg

[Berzerker]

I was going to post that exact same picture!!!

Jurasic Park isn't to far away or even far fetched anymore!!

Berz out.

[murd0c]

The scary part is what have they been cloneing that we don't even know about? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they could clone humans like in the movie the island.
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[MindBomber]

So, the solution to the rapidly approaching extinction of many currently living arctic animals, such as polar bears, is cloning an arctic animal that humans hunted to extinction 12,000 years ago...

Jurassic Park is my all time favourite movie and Snufalufagus is my favourite sesame street character, but there are higher priorities in the world... just my thoughts.

[Alphamale]

So, the solution to the rapidly approaching extinction of many currently living arctic animals, such as polar bears, is cloning an arctic animal that humans hunted to extinction 12,000 years ago...

Jurassic Park is my all time favourite movie and Snufalufagus is my favourite sesame street character, but there are higher priorities in the world... just my thoughts.

Like ending world hunger, right?

Fuck off.

[CKLCKL]

im pretty sure its not to hard to clone stupid :troll:

Wait a second... are you implying that it wouldn't be hard to clone a stupid person (ie Mugen Evolution) or were you calling him stupid?

either way, its stupid:devil:

[Jegz]

Jurassic Park in 2050!!

[dlo]

:lol jurassic park was on last night too

[StylinRed]

we need to discuss... whether to display it to the public"

what??? unless its totally deformed (which i doubt it will be since its just a hairy elephant) why would they need to Discuss it -_-



China should start cloning Pandas and selling them as pets (thats been on my list of things to get when im ridiculously rich for ages :))

[MindBomber]

Like ending world hunger, right?

Fuck off.

No, like saving the species in danger of extinction now.

If your going to quote me, at least make the comment intelligent.

:stfu:

[spoon.ek9]

No, like saving the species in danger of extinction now.

If your going to quote me, at least make the comment intelligent.

:stfu:

that's the thing, these scientists aren't striving to save an endangered species. their goal is to do what hasn't been done before. i do see your point though and perhaps in the future this will be something they focus on. plus, it's humans who screw things up the most regarding endangered species. even if you create more, poachers who continue to kill these animals are the major problem.

oh, and fuck yeah! mammoths! :D

[124Y]

This is more awesome than a cloned mammoth.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5023/mastodon20dinozord.jpg

[Alphamale]

No, like saving the species in danger of extinction now.

If your going to quote me, at least make the comment intelligent.

:stfu:

Do you have any understanding of incentives make the world go round?

You think these scientists are better off spending their time trying to save an endangered species? Sure, their interests maybe part of that effort in their spare time but in the real scope of life, their interests and incentives lie in cloning a mammoth, for the purposes of exemplifying what can be done with cloning techonology and the branches of genetic and health advents it can create.

Do you think this will not eventually trickle down somewhere?

Your argument is about as good as telling NASA to stop sending shit into space because there's no war going on up there while human civilization is at stake via terrorist and civil strife.

If the scientists viewed that saving endangered species was more worth while, they'd surely divert their effort into that regards. Just like how you're on RS instead of in a soup kitchen.

[91LS-VTak]

No, like saving the species in danger of extinction now.

If your going to quote me, at least make the comment intelligent.

:stfu:

These scientists are not saving current species, they are ressurecting an extinct one. Guess what? If this works, they could apply this research and technology to save other species that do go extinct in the future.

Please feel free to run for government with a platform of banning research that you deem irrevelant.



Back to the story...that is pretty cool. I hope i'm still alive if they're ever able to clone dinosaurs or any other ancient creatures.

[punkwax]

YES!

[Mercy]

I want to see a dodo
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[orange7]

anyone else think we should set limits and boundaries on this kind of researches from the world before it gets out of control?

[MindBomber]

@Alphamale

The point you made makes complete sense and I agree with you, cloning a mammoth will attract much more attention from the media and in the public, which would turn would lead to an increase in grant money for the researchers to perfect the process with. Although the difficulty in perfecting the process between cloning a mammoth and an endangered species wouldn't be all that different, there are other factors to consider.

You see, with an intelligent comment you actually further the discussion.

@Spook.ek9

I agree, at the moment the highest priority in preserving endangered species is changing the attitudes towards them in certain regions of the world. As long as people value animals more dead than alive it will be impossible to save them, fortunately in some areas of the world those attitudes are changing.

@91LS-VTak

Guess what, I read the article and I realize they are trying to clone and endangered species. You fail at reading comprehension, because believing research efforts should be prioritized to address current problems before building Pleistocene Park is in no way suggesting the research should be banned.

[RacePace]

anyone else think we should ban this research from the world before it gets out of control?

I think like it or not, this type of research is going to happen. And it'd be near impossible to get every country in the world to ban it. It's up to responsible scientists to actually do things that would benefit humanity

[Wongtouski]

So, the solution to the rapidly approaching extinction of many currently living arctic animals, such as polar bears, is cloning an arctic animal that humans hunted to extinction 12,000 years ago...

Jurassic Park is my all time favourite movie and Snufalufagus is my favourite sesame street character, but there are higher priorities in the world... just my thoughts.

That's not the entire idea of the exercise......they're just experimenting with cloning altogether, any success/failure is just added knowledge which can potentially be applied to other forms of cloning.....like cloning an organ for you when you need one.

[Senna4ever]

In other news, still no cure for cancer...

[LiquidTurbo]

^

The cure for cancer is prevention.

It really isn't a great idea to compared other fields of science with this news story. You can't possibly expect every single scientist to be working on something of your interest, or all of them to find a cure for cancer.

[reaver64]

I wanna try mammoth steak

[JKam]

kill 2 birds with one stone

1. clone a mammoth
2. make mammoth steak
3. Jurassic park restaurant + end world hunger
4. ?????
5. Profit

[RRxtar]

anyone else think we should ban this research from the world before it gets out of control?
quickly, the guy with 1500 fails on revscene wants the world to stop research into cloning.

up next, turn off the large hadron collider. followed quickly by stem cell research.

FEAR WHAT YOU DONT KNOW!!! PREVENT SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT!

[SB7]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18964_5-ways-science-could-make-us-immortal.html

Thought this was a pretty interesting read....

Somewhat related to this topic :whistle:

[SkinnyPupp]

anyone else think we should ban this research from the world before it gets out of control?
Yes, this sort of progress needs to stop now! While we're at it, let's shut down all universities and convert them to churches!

[orange7]

quickly, the guy with 1500 fails on revscene wants the world to stop research into cloning.

up next, turn off the large hadron collider. followed quickly by stem cell research.

FEAR WHAT YOU DONT KNOW!!! PREVENT SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT!

Yes, this sort of progress needs to stop now! While we're at it, let's shut down all universities and convert them to churches!

no no.. I didn't mean to stop human from advancing and go back to the stone age. I'm going to be an engineer, and this kind of things would provide me with jobs.

Just that, after reading this article, I saw some connections to another article "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" writtened by Bill Joy (a very well respected person IMO).

I made the wrong word choice. I should've used the word limit instead of ban. I just think that we should not rush into this kind of reasearches, and maybe there should be some limitations and boundaries.

sorry about all the confusion, the mammoth cloning is great because we could learn about the past. I just got a little sensitive when ppl on this forum started talking about cloning ppl and going beyond the scope of the article.

:blush:

[bcrdukes]

^
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

TOS'd - meet your match.

:lol

[quasi]

anyone else think we should set limits and boundaries on this kind of researches from the world before it gets out of control?

Not I, push those boundries and see how far you can go. You're talking about growing new hearts, livers, bone marrow and lots of other things that could save so many people. Maybe they can't cure cancer but if you get liver cancer and they can replace your liver a lot of people who may have died might now live.

[TheKingdom2000]

:5shots:

[Greenstoner]

http://arthropoda.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/john-hammond.jpg

one of my fav movies at all time

[TheNewGirl]

This, like the Large Hadron Collider can only end badly. But it will no doubt be amusing as well.

[LiquidTurbo]

This, like the Large Hadron Collider can only end badly. But it will no doubt be amusing as well.

Errr what?
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[TheNewGirl]

Errr what?
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Ohhhh! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

The LHC is the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator.
Basically there is a big ass tube way under ground where they're hurling particles at each other trying to recreate the big bang (amongst other things).

[dangonay]

Cloning a Mammoth is just plain stupid, IMO. What they learn will not apply to other areas of medicine (like cloning hearts or livers) since it's a completely different proceess.

Helping to stop the extinction of species? Give me a break. They can't even prevent current species from going extinct despite countelss zoos around the world with breeding programs to try and save them. Now we're going to bring back extinct species and believe we'll be able to introduce them into the world when we can't even do that now with still living species?

After the mammoth is born, we'll examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors.

This is a quote from one of the scientists. Study its genes to see why it became extinct? I wonder if those very same genes can identify the hunters that exterminated countless mammoths. Or perhaps those genes will be able to give us a record of the weather patterns when the mammoth lived so we can understand what happened to them.


There is really only one area this research could be applied in regards to humanity: bringing back dead people by cloning them from preserved DNA. These scientists are performing research with some serious consequences. If they said "we're going to make a clone of Albert Einstein from some of his DNA" people would be outraged. By saying "we're going to clone an extinct species - specifically a mammoth" it makes it sound far more palatable to us. It's just a cute fuzzy mammoth. And we're doing good trying to bring back an extinct species.

Cut the fucking bullshit - their motives have nothing to do with extinct species.

[TheKingdom2000]

^ i'm sure the motives are not completely transparent. But, it's still pretty bad ass.

Errr what?
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the big issue with the LHC, which has still not run at 100% power (only 40% or something, it keeps breaking down) is that the LHC in theory can create microscopic blackholes and if they do not collapse on themselves or dissipate, they will engulf our whole earth and surround moons/stars.

but, hawkings has assured people that this is not going to happen.

[RRxtar]

This, like the Large Hadron Collider can only end badly. But it will no doubt be amusing as well.
FEAR WHAT YOU DONT KNOW!!! PREVENT SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT!