[Derek_N84]

BURNABY (NEWS1130) - A Burnaby Mountie has been suspended with pay in a strange theft case. A constable who's been with the force for two years is accused of taking loose change from a desk drawer at a community policing station.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/171988--burnaby-mountie-charged-with-stealing-loose-change

The officer is accused of stealing on several occasions.

Sergeant Rob Vermuelen is with E-Division in Vancouver. "One of our members in Burnaby in late fall of 2010 noticed some change missing from one of the work stations from a drawer. It was reported to senior management. They immediately launched an internal investigation."

He adds it's not a great amount of money. "It's well under a hundred dollars. I'm thinking it's around the $40-70 range, that's obviously something that will come out in court. It's not really the amount of money though, for us, that matters. I mean, the fact is as police officers we are in a position of trust so any breach of that trust is something we take very, very seriously."

Thirty-seven-year-old Constable Derrick Holdenried was suspended in December. He has a court date next month and will have to answer to a separate internal code of conduct investigation.



I support my police officers but come on change? ughhhh :facepalm:

[tool001]

suspended WITH PAY??? enough with suspentions w/ pay. GTFO

i wish my job also suspended people with pay for stealing shit.... i would take a pc or two home.

[1exotic]

was the cop native

[Slifer]

suspended WITH PAY??? enough with suspentions w/ pay. GTFO

i wish my job also suspended people with pay for stealing shit.... i would take a pc or two home.

Yeah I know, instead of being punished he gets rewarded. Nice justice system..

[Senna4ever]

What a fucking idiot.

[Sky_2000]

Why is the RCMP even brothering to charge this guy? They should have charged the 3 guys in the Robert Dziekanski's murder instead. Waste of tax payers money going after this change stealer! They should just punished him within their own system...bump him down a pay grade that'll teach him not to steal.

[spyker]

suspended WITH PAY??? enough with suspentions w/ pay. GTFO

i wish my job also suspended people with pay for stealing shit.... i would take a pc or two home.

The reason why we always hear of cops being suspended with pay is,they all belong to a very powerful union.

[hal0g0dv2]

seems about right

[Vansterdam]

lawl

[Culverin]

He adds it's not a great amount of money. "It's well under a hundred dollars. I'm thinking it's around the $40-70 range, that's obviously something that will come out in court. It's not really the amount of money though, for us, that matters. I mean, the fact is as police officers we are in a position of trust so any breach of that trust is something we take very, very seriously."

Thirty-seven-year-old Constable Derrick Holdenried was suspended in December. He has a court date next month and will have to answer to a separate internal code of conduct investigation.


That's not taking anything seriously.
At a private firm, expect to get fired on the spot and charges filed.

[TekDragon]

The reason why we always hear of cops being suspended with pay is,they all belong to a very powerful union.

Municipal police forces are in unions, but the RCMP is not.

[Gridlock]

This is for real guys! The RCMP, a police agency trusted with the powers to arrest citizens of our country, can be trusted to handle internal security matters promptly and efficiently.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, a man allegedly guilty of stealing change is on the same level of punishment that we gave to the guy that kicked the shit out of a bloke's face in Kelowna, and more than the guys involved in the airport matter.

We'll show him who's boss. You go home, and take a paid vacay and think about what you did young man.

See you back in a few weeks.

Need a loon for the bus?

[hirevtuner]

even taking the change will not pay for bail or lawyer fees...that guy is fail

[Gh0stRider]

What a fucking disgrace. Fuck the RCMP
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[willystyle]

There's been so much negative media coming out of the RCMP lately. I am beginning to think highly of the VPD and other municipal police agencies.

[bcedhk]

Let's hope he won't get promoted for the rest of his career, that will be the only "good" punishment.
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[cheapskate]

There's been so much negative media coming out of the RCMP lately. I am beginning to think highly of the VPD and other municipal police agencies.

It's really not fair to compare the two. The VPD is much smaller and is mainly tasked to look after the City of Vancouver whereas the RCMP is nationwide. The chances of a member of the RCMP committing an offence is much much higher. We have to be logical and fair on matters such as these.

[El Bastardo]

Its one cop, not all cops. Just because this guy is a blithering retard doesn't mean all cops are dirty and stupid.

[nns]

^ Sensible reasoning escapes most people here.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

What a fucking disgrace. Fuck the RCMP
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how about fuck the police

:whistle:

[iEatClams]

Its one cop, not all cops. Just because this guy is a blithering retard doesn't mean all cops are dirty and stupid.

^ Sensible reasoning escapes most people here.

I'm sure there are many instances where cops have committed crimes but no one reports it. Overall, there are many more great cops than bad ones, but what people want is ACCOUNTABILITY. The public is just sick of the usual suspension with pay when cops fuck up. There appears to be a lack of accountability and justice and the "appearance" of cops protecting each other, even when they know the other guy is wrong.

Instead of protecting each other, fire them and distant themselves from these rogue/dirty/bad cops that truly do not represent the force as a whole and make an example of them to deter such behaviour.

Theres no deterence when you know you will be protected and the most probable outcome is that you get suspended, with pay.

[nns]

If most of RS, or people in general, could articulate their thoughts in the manner you just demonstrated, their opinions would hold so much more validity.

You know, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion. However, if you spout off like a teenager full of angst, no one wants to listen to you. Also, constructive criticism goes so much further than just "fuck this fuck that fuck them fuck you fuck me fuck fuck fuck fuck". :bla

Just IMO.

[El Bastardo]

Agree with Azndude69, but not 100%. I wouldn't want to have my tax dollars pay to replace a cop over petty theft. It costs us what, $30k to train a cop? You consider wages for him, the instructor, the equipment and materials. Then you consider his experience, etc.

Now you weigh that against him stealing less than $100? Keep him on, print his name, embarrass and disgrace him. It was a stupid ass thing to do. Kids working at McDonalds know better than him.


But cops selling drugs? Beating people senseless for the fun of it? Police officers who truly behave like pigs? Absolutely, get rid of them. No pay, no benefits, nothing.

[flagella]

just sad... what's sadder is suspension with pay.

[Gh0stRider]

Everytime a cop gets in trouble, it happens to be the RCMP and same shit as always, suspended with PAY. Why are we paying for the dumb mistakes by these idiots?

Police officers should be leading by example and be held to a higher standard.
If normal citizens can't get away with those offences, why the fuck should they?

And of course, our Justice System ain't gonna do shit about it.


:rant

[jaguar604]

Innocent until proven guilty.

[impulse777]

Agree with Azndude69, but not 100%. I wouldn't want to have my tax dollars pay to replace a cop over petty theft. It costs us what, $30k to train a cop? You consider wages for him, the instructor, the equipment and materials. Then you consider his experience, etc.

Now you weigh that against him stealing less than $100? Keep him on, print his name, embarrass and disgrace him. It was a stupid ass thing to do. Kids working at McDonalds know better than him.


But cops selling drugs? Beating people senseless for the fun of it? Police officers who truly behave like pigs? Absolutely, get rid of them. No pay, no benefits, nothing.

Slippery slope there don't ya think.

As some one already posted do this at your job and your canned. These are police we are talking about they should be representing the best society has to give. I feel there should be absolutely zero tolerence for rogue behavior within any police force break the rules your fired. I'll tell you why if you are able to pass all the academic/psychological/physical test's wile training you are given vast powers over the general population this is a very powerful position to be in. Anyone with the power to strip me of my liberty better take their position of authority seriously.

[Culverin]

Agree with Azndude69, but not 100%. I wouldn't want to have my tax dollars pay to replace a cop over petty theft. It costs us what, $30k to train a cop? You consider wages for him, the instructor, the equipment and materials. Then you consider his experience, etc.

Now you weigh that against him stealing less than $100? Keep him on, print his name, embarrass and disgrace him. It was a stupid ass thing to do. Kids working at McDonalds know better than him.


Efficiency of tax dollars is one thing, trust is a much bigger issue.
I don't want my rights and safety protected by people so morally corrupt when there is only $100 on the line.
What if it was say an average week's worth of pay of $1000?
Or my life savings? Can the police force as a whole be trusted with your life savings or your life?
The question is, are you willing to bet on it?
And if so, I'm betting the dollar amount you just came up with is less than that "efficiency of tax dollar".

Furthermore, their corporate image they display by keeping this douchebag around shows them to be corruptible.
When law and morals are not enough to make the hard decisions, people lost trust.
That loss of trust comes in the form of resisting arrest, officers hurt (which legitimately results in absent with pay) and creating more flashpoint incidents to show them in a bad light.


The office of the "police" in western society is called to be an exemplary model of morals and integrity, when that starts to fail, any sort of downward spiral can only be stopped within the police.
I'd say we're in a downward spiral wouldn't you?

[mr_chin]

Until the court proves him guilty, he is still innocent, that is why he is suspended with pay.

[hotjoint]

heard about this driving home yesterday. I :lol hard

[unit]

how embarrassing

[Greenstoner]

win win situation

steal shit from work = sit at home and steal shit from taxpayers

i should of join and attend to a RCMP seminar when they had a job fair in BCIT

[tool001]

Innocent until proven guilty.

haha, now only if u can get cops to agree with that. :fullofwin:

[g_spyder91]

I thought it was innocent until on the ground and kicked in the face by an officer?:fullofwin:

[spyker]

For the cops,it's "innocent until proven guilty",cops get to stay at home with pay until proven guilty.

For anyone else, "guilty till proven innocent",civilians gets to stay in jail until proven innocent.

[Greenstoner]

i just thought about this, quite interesting

he took some money, committed criminal... but returns to job with slap on the wrist...if i were the police and from his point of view i will feel so embarassed especially surround by law enforcers ....

and i dont have any other skills to find a different company... that feeling must sucked lol

[jaguar604]

He'll probably be transferred to a 1 man detachment in Nunavut.

How can any other cop trust him if he's found guilty?

[you!]

bwahahahaa
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[donjalapeno]

if anyones wondering theres 11 dollars and 53 cents in the links picture :)

[Sid Vicious]

if you worked basically anywhere else you'd for sure get your ass fire if you got caught stealing change

but the rcmp is different i guess

[El Bastardo]

The office of the "police" in western society is called to be an exemplary model of morals and integrity, when that starts to fail, any sort of downward spiral can only be stopped within the police.
I'd say we're in a downward spiral wouldn't you?


At least we're not Communists

[Spidey]

I am pro police, and believe most of them are very good people.. I can see where the people's frustration comes from though. If I were a policeman, I would not expect paid time off if I had been caught stealing or doing anythign against the criminal code. LEO's should be held at a higher standard. It amazes me how these people get through the selection process! That is what amazes me more than anything. If he was stealing change from a POLIce station, I wonder what kind of undetected dumb shit he did prior in his life, that he DID NOR DISCLOSE in his interviews...

[bloodmack]

Note to self: If I want a good vacation, become a cop and steal change so i can get suspension with pay.