[Xnova86]

So I went into a random store today to buy a lotto max ticket

the guy asked for my id because i used a credit card. So i thought that was normal and then he held onto it after i signed a receipt and copy some of my drivers license shit down on the back on the receipt.


wtf? first time happened to me. whats the dillio.

[murd0c]

he wrote down your driver license number so he has proof it was you. It's very common in certain parts of the city that see lots of credit card fraud. People go to lots of stores with stolen credit cards and buy a shit ton of tickets so if they win anything it's basically laundered.

[donjalapeno]

like anthonys tranny

[JesseBlue]

hmm...i think you would get an additional payment for using a credit card with a lotto purchase...at least i remember me having this before...

[El Bastardo]

Had that happen to me once. I refused to let him finish writing my DL# down because thats some deep level personally identifiable information. I snatched the DL off the counter and the guy looked at me like I had suddenly done something wrong.

I asked him what he was doing and all he could say was "It all good bro. It all good bro. Give back!"



Without a reasonable explanation as to why he was doing what he was doing, there was no way in hell I was going to let him have my DL#.
Anyone who has spent even a little time working in a fraud department will know that him having my DL #, my first and last name, and my CC# is a formula for disaster.


I keep it in my plastic sleeve in my wallet that folds out. The wallet stays in my hand the whole time. He can see my name and match it to my card from there.
If the guy is that suspicious of my sub-$10 transaction he can cancel that shit and I'll take my business somewhere else.

[cococly]

I was working as a BCLC lottery retailer.


I do not recall any direct BCLC regulations mentioning we have the authority to COPY customers' personal information from their proper ID.

If we felt someone is using a credit card that is not his/her, we would ask he/she to produce a proper ID (ie. BCDL/BCID/Passport,etc). It had to match excatly with the name on the Credit Card.

Which retailer was it?

If you really wanted to do something about it, this is the BCLC customer hotline: 1-866-815-0222

If they have enough proof that this retailer is doing something beyond their authority, BCLC could permanley suspend their operating license.

[Vansterdam]

^ this has happen to me recently but nothing out of the ordinary

[Xnova86]

I was working as a BCLC lottery retailer.


I do not recall any direct BCLC regulations mentioning we have the authority to COPY customers' personal information from their proper ID.

If we felt someone is using a credit card that is not his/her, we would ask he/she to produce a proper ID (ie. BCDL/BCID/Passport,etc). It had to match excatly with the name on the Credit Card.

Which retailer was it?

If you really wanted to do something about it, this is the BCLC customer hotline: 1-866-815-0222

If they have enough proof that this retailer is doing something beyond their authority, BCLC could permanley suspend their operating license.

it was in DT grocery shop right beside ebi-ten near the library.

[cococly]

it was in DT grocery shop right beside ebi-ten near the library.

You can call the customer hotline to make a complain/ express your concerns, BCLC might be sending "undercover" customers to check on them. :whistle:

[Nocardia]

hmm...i think you would get an additional payment for using a credit card with a lotto purchase...at least i remember me having this before...

true

Ranges from like 25 cents to $2

You can't gamble on credit without a surcharge :)

[Xnova86]

shit really? didnt realize that. gotta stop using my credit card to buy lotto tixs


edit: so stylinred failed me. wanna explain yourself you fag?

[Vansterdam]

one time when i was really young before the stores had the ticket scanning machines

i gave my ticket to the clerk to check if I won and he said I won 50$ but when i asked for the ticket back to confirm he said it was against the law cause he already rang it in.

to this day I wonder if that ticket was worth a couple million or not FML

[Vansterdam]

true

Ranges from like 25 cents to $2

You can't gamble on credit without a surcharge :)

shit really? can anyone confirm this?

[PJ]

true

Ranges from like 25 cents to $2

You can't gamble on credit without a surcharge :)

I'd like to know as well..? I always buy my tickets with my Visa and never noticed anything.. interesting.

Hmm, I thought I bought this week's ticket on my Visa, but it's not on my statement.. maybe I didn't.

[cococly]

hmm...i think you would get an additional payment for using a credit card with a lotto purchase...at least i remember me having this before...

true

Ranges from like 25 cents to $2

You can't gamble on credit without a surcharge :)

I think it all depends on your credit card firms. They may have policy saying they would add surcharges for any transcations less than $2??

I do not think the credit card surcharge issue has anything to do with BCLC.

[Manic!]

true

Ranges from like 25 cents to $2

You can't gamble on credit without a surcharge :)

Credit card companies charge a flat rate for what ever you buy. Ranging from around 1.7% to 2.5% depending on the type of credit card and the deal the store has with there possessor.

There is no extra charge for lotto purchases.

[Vulcan300]

Credit card companies charge a flat rate for what ever you buy. Ranging from around 1.7% to 2.5% depending on the type of credit card and the deal the store has with there possessor.

There is no extra charge for lotto purchases.

Not true, I was going to buy lotto with my credit card and the clerk told me I should use cash/debit instead to avoid a $5 charge. My sister also got charged $5 for a lotto purchase using credit card. We use pc mastercard if that makes any difference.

[AutozamAZ-3]

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/lottery-ticket-purchase-credit-card-purchase-cash-advance-724912/

a post from that thread
This is correct, some of the newer card with updated terms has added lottery tickets/subscriptions to be consider as cash equivalents/cash advance.
Last time I checked:
the MBNA premier rewards platinum plus, DOES consider it as cash advance.
the CIBC dividend, DOES NOT consider it as cash advance.

update note:
When you buy in person, the store might not group the ticket as 'lottery' for the CC company, so it might still be consider purchase.

Inside MBNA account agreement

"Cash Advance" means the use of your Account for a loan obtained:
...
3. to buy "Cash Equivalents" (..., bets, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips...) with your card
...



check with ur cc company guys

[Xnova86]

UPDATE - Called BCLC. Told them the whole story. Description of the dude. Exact location and what not. Got a case number. and the BCLC investigation department gonna look it up and will let me know.

The guy on the phone said that this kind of stuff never happens before or he never heard of it. so yea.

[CKLCKL]

UPDATE - Called BCLC. Told them the whole story. Description of the dude. Exact location and what not. Got a case number. and the BCLC investigation department gonna look it up and will let me know.

The guy on the phone said that this kind of stuff never happens before or he never heard of it. so yea.

nice work. let us know the outcome

[anti_rice]

In BC, retailers cannot write down your driver's license number or any personal ID # when you use a credit card to make a purchase. They can only look at the ID to verify the name matches your face.

Also after a transaction the credit card slip should only contain the first and last 4 digits of your credit card. The middle 8 numbers should show XXXX XXXX. Some old machines still print out all the numbers, you can scratch it out before signing it if you are paranoid something will happen.

[Meowjin]

What happens if im at 7/11 and I get a drink with a lotto max ticket and charge it to my CC? Same thing?

[racerman88]

Should read this story, if you want to talk about fraud.
Store owner and relatives tried to defraud the original winners of their huge jackpot. Thankfully the OLG decided to investigate.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2011/01/27/olg-lottery-fraud-victims235.html

[Senna4ever]

I was told by a lotto retailer - I think it was that magazine store on Broadway & Granville - that I couldn't purchase tickets with a CC, only Interac or cash.

[hotjoint]

I always buy lotto tickets with my CC. I've never been charged anything extra. This is news to me

[Soundy]

UPDATE - Called BCLC. Told them the whole story. Description of the dude. Exact location and what not. Got a case number. and the BCLC investigation department gonna look it up and will let me know.

The guy on the phone said that this kind of stuff never happens before or he never heard of it. so yea.
Wonder if I'll be getting a call from BCLC again to find their video for them? :) Where did this happen?

[Manic!]

Not true, I was going to buy lotto with my credit card and the clerk told me I should use cash/debit instead to avoid a $5 charge. My sister also got charged $5 for a lotto purchase using credit card. We use pc mastercard if that makes any difference.

As a lotto retailer I have never hard of that, and how does your CC company know what you are exactly buying? Credit card statements only show the name of the business you bought from not what you bought from them.

[Manic!]

I was told by a lotto retailer - I think it was that magazine store on Broadway & Granville - that I couldn't purchase tickets with a CC, only Interac or cash.

Some places do this because they only make 5% from sales and then ccredit card companies take of chunk of that. Alter all expenses the might not even break even.

[Psykopathik]

am i that only one who thinks there's something wrong about buying lotto tickets with CREDIT?

[PJ]

^It's not that we don't have the money.. at least I hope not.
For me, I just buy everything with a credit card for the points. Even if its a $2 cup of coffee.
As for this lottery business, I've always bought my tickets with my credit card but have never noticed any additional charges.. maybe I should buy one this week and keep a closer eye out on my statement.