[cliffhanger33]

I have an iphone 4 and whenever i argue with blackberry users about which phone's better, its gets so heaty and never ends. Everytime one person gets mad. Any opinions and unbiased ways to explain why each of them are good/bad?

[Jgresch]

iphone 4 thread, BB thread, and probably 80,000 reviews online?

[jeedee]

Simple. Everyone that has an iPhone will say "oh iphones the best" and everyone that has a BlackBerry will say "ya blackberry ftw"

There is no "winner". It really depends what suits you.

iPhones = Jailbreak & Games etc
BlackBerry's = BBM, 'Business' Emails etc

[insomniac]

I myself has owned both bb and iPhone. iPhone is way more user-friendly and alit more developed than the blackberry. An obvious pro to blackberries is that try have bbm and a physical keyboard. Interfac is pretty fast too. I myself secretly love the blackberry interface although I'm a iPhone/android fanboy. You can switch applications very fast. Blackberry can't compare to the iPhone in entertainment.. Games, apps etc. Browser really sucks too. I hate scrolling thru pages using the trackpad or scrollball. Download speeds are horrific for the blackberry. Another pro is that bb's have pretty good battery life (curve an bold). I personally like the bold 1 > bold 2&3 because of the bigger keyboard and bigger screen.. Dunno what rim was thinking when they downsized the bold.. Then I played with my friends storm.. It was horrible. Touchscreen sucked ass. The I traded my friend his torch for my iPhone for a day just for fun.. The torch battery sucks ass and touchscreen sucks too.. The torch lags like fuck.. Even rotating the screen can freeze it and keyboard feels very cheap.
Now comes the cons of the iPhone. There is a solution to literally every flaw unlike blackberries cause the iPhone has so much backsupport. Shitty keyboard? Download a simplified version. Cracked screen? Just fix it yourself it's pretty easy. No flash? Download skyfire browser and it supports almost all flash.

So literally the only thing why the bb is better is because of battery life and bbm and a keyboard and email.. But iPhone battery isn't bad either.
iPhone can do everything a bb can do besides bbm. Blackberry can't do over 50% of the things an iPhone can do.
Okay last sentence might be biased but its pretty true. I stick to that line unless someone can prove me wrong.
Hope I helped.. Just ask if you have any more questions.
iPhone = entertainment
Bb = work
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[Gh0stRider]

They both suck. Android ftw :)
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[Razor Ramon HG]

I went from Blackberry -> iPhone 4 -> Blackberry + iPod Touch.

[ilvtofu]

went from bb to iphone 4 about 5 months ago. not going back haha. blackberry is full of lag and start up takes horrifically long. Call quality isn't the greatest either, people are always asking me what I'm trying to say... I like that it has a button for camera and the keyboard is great. BBM is awesome but I am finally getting the hang of whatsapp which is just a tad slower than bbm but it's way better since it's cross platform. Build quality is no contest and neither is interface. Everything just runs smoother on the iphone and maybe a little biased but I think it's much more attractive.

BB really lacking in apps and pretty shitty browser. Standard iphone might be a bit of a debate but a jailbroken one is a no contest IMO.

If there is one thing I'd have to improve on the iphone would be the battery life. Nothing to complain about if you only use it as a phone for calls/text/emails.but being that there are just so many apps, and the best music player on a phone IMO, the battery needs an upgrade so that the iphone can be used fully as the great all rounder that it is

[chin3se604]

I went from Blackberry -> iPhone 4 -> Blackberry + iPod Touch.


thats what i plan on doing.. best of both worlds

[Kamui712]

I tried both BB and Iphone.

BB - unfriendly UI, seems outdated and takes WAY too many menu selections to do a simple task like receiving bluetooth files. QWERTY keyboard is good.

iphone - simple UI, lots of games, but imo not customizable enough, I went cross eyed from screen after screen of square icons.

ended up buying Android.

[gars]

haha, I have both a Blackberry 9700, and an iPhone 3GS. Funnily enough, my blackberry is personal, and the iPhone is my company phone (don't ask, my CIO is an apple fanboy).

Honestly, I hate my iPhone. It has the most polished interface, but it's also so watererd down that you don't have many options to change. You can't change the notification tone for your emails - so when you and the 10 people around you all get an email, everybody has to check their phones. You can't disable that stupid text notification that pops up. You can't change the auto-correct that works in horrible ways. When I'm playing a game - the stupid text message notification pops up and stops me from scoring a goal in fifa. Why would I have to go into airplane mode just to play a game?

Now before any of you say - you should jailbreak it - I think it's retarded that you would have to crack the software to improve something. As much as my BlackBerry isn't perfect - there isn't anything about it that bugs me anywhere as much as the above points I mentioned. Yes, the browser isn't great. Yes, there aren't many apps for it. But I can send texts, I can send emails, I can send bbm messages better than with anything on the iPhone.

and that Red LED on the top is a GODSEND. If I'm out of the room and a message or email comes through on my iPhone - I have no idea. I'd have to UNLOCK my iphone every time to check. with my BlackBerry - I can see the red LED in the corner of my eye that tells me I have a new message.

Maybe I'll go Android.... but I'm sticking with these phones for a while...

[Teh Doucher]

thats what i plan on doing.. best of both worlds

correction, best of both worlds is an iphone and a bb. im currently using an iphone 3gs on voice and data, the blackberry is running on data only($15/mo instant message/email package that rogers and fido offer). its not bad at all because i have bbm and the best mobile browsing experience everywhere i go. only part thats annoying me now is having to carry the both of them around and not accidentally throw my keys into one of the pockets that one of my phones is in. :(

[Vansterdam]

I only like bb for BBM

otherwise iphone 4 FTW for the apps and games and music player
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[TheNewGirl]

There's a lot of different blackberries. It depends which one you use to compare it to the the Iphone.

I have to use a BB for work (as it's given to me by my work) and I have to say I've gotten so used to my Storm I don't know that I would give it back. But it's a PHONE not an entertainment systems like an Iphone or the more capable Andriod phones. I prefer it that way personally. Sure I have a couple of apps to play with when I'm standing in line at the bank, and I <3 the GPS when I need to get some where but the primary use of it is for communication - via Email, IM, BBM, Text and (though less than the others) talk. As a communication device I think BB excels. It's easy to use, intuitive and reliable.

If you want a phone that is going to be used for communicating with others primarily, IMO you can't go wrong with a blackberry. If you want an entertainment system in your pocket that you sometimes talk on - go with the Andriod or Iphone.

Also note - Blackberry's compress data like no other phone I've ever seen. If you're looking to save some money on your bill but still need to be able to get email and such on your phone you can get away with a much lower data plan on a BB so long as you're not streaming video from youtube or anything.

[StylinRed]

nokia n8 :)

[Kamui712]

^^ if you're using WIND or Mobilicity's unlimited data plans, or any data plan above 1GB the BB's data compression becomes a moot point.

I find that Android is a good compromise between BB and Iphone.
-You can buy androids with physical QWERTY keypads, some have notification LEDS like BB.
- Pretty much all Androids have large screens for reading emails and web browsing. I've found that reading e-mails or web browsing on small screens such as the Curve or Bold to be less than ideal.
- E-mails/msgs are forwarded to android are prompt as well.

[TOPEC]

It pretty much boils down to 2 main points.

If u like playing games and use a lot of apps, then iphone is the way to go.

If u like to txt a lot and don't really care abt fancy apps, then BB is the way to go.

Do I miss my iphone? Maybe from time to time, but personally, nothing beats a physical keyboard.
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[josayeee]

I love my Blackberry 9780 + ipod touch 4. Best of both worlds. Jailbreak allows me to use bluetooth connection so that my ipod can use my blackberry's data. That being said I had an iphone 3gs and it wasn't for me because of the touch screen keyboard.
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[insomniac]

I'm going iPod touch 4 + htc desire right now price of an iphone 4 yet I can have best of both worlds. If you have all the widgets set right for android it can be 100x more useful than a blackberry. I love how I can just visit a website and sync the websites calendar to my own. With swype I can type faster than a blackberry user with just one finger. Whatsapp is just as fast as bbm on android IMO..

[!Yaminashi]

Blackberry is only better if you constantly need email and BBM.
Other than that its shit, and I'm a blackberry user

[Teh Doucher]

I love my Blackberry 9780 + ipod touch 4. Best of both worlds. Jailbreak allows me to use bluetooth connection so that my ipod can use my blackberry's data. That being said I had an iphone 3gs and it wasn't for me because of the touch screen keyboard.
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Which app is it in cydia that allows this? That sounds fucking awesome! Also, does it work with an iPad as well?
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[Vansterdam]

I love my Blackberry 9780 + ipod touch 4. Best of both worlds. Jailbreak allows me to use bluetooth connection so that my ipod can use my blackberry's data. That being said I had an iphone 3gs and it wasn't for me because of the touch screen keyboard.
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no way dude does this work with blackberry+ iphone4

if so please hook up the app!! im so tired of sim swapping lol

[InvisibleSoul]

I have a personal iPhone 4 and a Bold 9700 for work.

There is no way in hell I would ever switch to a BlackBerry as my sole device.

For me, pretty much the only thing the BlackBerry has an advantage on is BlackBerry Messenger.

The iPhone wins for everything else.

[kayceeee]

What about iphone vs android?

I'm on os6 with my 9700 and now deciding whether to wait for the nexus s on an atnt version or get the iphone 4 now
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[dimdiu]

if u r gonna wait for nexus s atnt version, might as well wait a bit more and see what iphone 5 has to offer

[TheNewGirl]

I have a personal iPhone 4 and a Bold 9700 for work.

There is no way in hell I would ever switch to a BlackBerry as my sole device.

For me, pretty much the only thing the BlackBerry has an advantage on is BlackBerry Messenger.

The iPhone wins for everything else.

I dislike the old Bold. The newer QWARTY phones with the touch pad are better than the track ball but I still dislike it personally.

Most Iphone users do better on a Storm II or a Torch.

[InvisibleSoul]

I dislike the old Bold. The newer QWARTY phones with the touch pad are better than the track ball but I still dislike it personally.

Most Iphone users do better on a Storm II or a Torch.

Bold 9700 is the newer Bold 2 with the touchpad.

I used to have the old Bold 9000 for work, and disliked that one even more since it was so fat.

[cliffhanger33]

lolol anyone use whatsapp for iphone? its like bbm and just cross platforms with android, bb, etc, its a pretty sick app imo :P

[noholo]

All you do on a blackberry is text, IM, call and email basically. BB's are good for business, or if you're a busy person. I personally own an iPhone 4. I don't need to carry an mp3 player and a phone, and I can do so much on the iphone for fun. I still think Blackberrys are dope though, wouldn't mind owning both :).

[noholo]

lolol anyone use whatsapp for iphone? its like bbm and just cross platforms with android, bb, etc, its a pretty sick app imo :P

Yeah whatsapp is dope. Most of the people who argue blackberries are better than iphone say cause of bbm. Whatsapp is way better cause its cross platform to any smartphone, unlike bbm only being specific to blackberries. Maybe im just a biased iphone fan boy :) (owned all 4 gens).

[cliffhanger33]

yeah exactly i personally think bb's are pretty sick , but i guess iphones are more friendly and hv better UI in a way. Bb's are efficient tho, iphone is more vast only coz it has jailbreak which literally allows u to do ANYTHING

[cliffhanger33]

Yeah whatsapp is dope. Most of the people who argue blackberries are better than iphone say cause of bbm. Whatsapp is way better cause its cross platform to any smartphone, unlike bbm only being specific to blackberries. Maybe im just a biased iphone fan boy :) (owned all 4 gens).

lol yeah im a pretty biased iphone 4 fan boy too but i try not to be biased lOL all the bb buddies crap on me when i diss them LOLOL
yeah exactly, whatsapp is pretty sick, it does everything BBM does , such as voice notes, free pic sending, vid sending etc

[- kT]

All you do on a blackberry is text, IM, call and email basically. BB's are good for business, or if you're a busy person. I personally own an iPhone 4. I don't need to carry an mp3 player and a phone, and I can do so much on the iphone for fun. I still think Blackberrys are dope though, wouldn't mind owning both :).

yeah that's the usual "argument" - that bb's are for the business person and iphones are more for when you want to have some fun. it makes sense too, BB is good for communicating via bbm, email, etc.

however i love that everything is on the iphone, just one touch away. ipod, gps, endless amounts of all types of games, etc. i traded phones with my gf for about a week (she has a bold 9700 and i have an iphone4) and i couldn't wait to get my own phone back. after she gave my phone back she said she wanted to trade again, for a longer period of time :P

[noholo]

yeah exactly i personally think bb's are pretty sick , but i guess iphones are more friendly and hv better UI in a way. Bb's are efficient tho, iphone is more vast only coz it has jailbreak which literally allows u to do ANYTHING

Yeah blackberries are nice, but since I'm not a rich mufukah I can only own one phone atm ahaha. Otherwise i'd alternate between a bold 9780 and iphone 4 =) and maybe an android too.

Bold 9700 is the newer Bold 2 with the touchpad.

I used to have the old Bold 9000 for work, and disliked that one even more since it was so fat.

FYI bold 9700 is the bold 2, the new one is called bold 9780 which basically is the same thing cept more ram and a better camera:nerd:

[cliffhanger33]

yeah that's the usual "argument" - that bb's are for the business person and iphones are more for when you want to have some fun. it makes sense too, BB is good for communicating via bbm, email, etc.

however i love that everything is on the iphone, just one touch away. ipod, gps, endless amounts of all types of games, etc. i traded phones with my gf for about a week (she has a bold 9700 and i have an iphone4) and i couldn't wait to get my own phone back. after she gave my phone back she said she wanted to trade again, for a longer period of time :P


yeah holy crap tomtom gps on iphone is sick , the UI is amazing and I love HD youtube and the retina resolution.
but srsly samsung is competing with iphone , theyre release on the galaxy was already comparable with iphone 4 (in specs only imo :) ) but did u hear about their new samsung release? Samsung Infuse 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_infuse_4g_packs_a_45_super_amoled_plus_dis play-news-2194.php
its like beyond retina display, Super AMOLED technology. Hummingbird CPU, clocked at 1.2 GHz. The handset runs on Android 2.2 (Froyo) Two cameras have also been updated and the Infuse 4G now packs an 8 megapixel primary snapper and a 1.3 megapixel secondary unit (that camera destroys iphone ). LOL i wonder how iphone will compete with that

[!Aznboi128]

I got 9700 and iPhone4. I use my bb cause it's easier to txt and I got a bunch of friends on bbm and on bbm you can have "groups" of chats which is much better then what's app. I carry both phones, but the iPhone only comes out for camera/games when bored the rest of the time it's berry. Surprisingly I like the browser on the berry more cause it's faster... For me anyways.
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[noholo]

I got 9700 and iPhone4. I use my bb cause it's easier to txt and I got a bunch of friends on bbm and on bbm you can have "groups" of chats which is much better then what's app. I carry both phones, but the iPhone only comes out for camera/games when bored the rest of the time it's berry. Surprisingly I like the browser on the berry more cause it's faster... For me anyways.
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LOL damn carrying both phones at once? Could just get an ipod touch 4g but I guess the camera would be lacking, the new bold 9780 also has a better camera I think. When I owned a bold 9700 the browser was pretty slow, but that was os 4 or 5, not the new os 6.


yeah holy crap tomtom gps on iphone is sick , the UI is amazing and I love HD youtube and the retina resolution.
but srsly samsung is competing with iphone , theyre release on the galaxy was already comparable with iphone 4 (in specs only imo :) ) but did u hear about their new samsung release? Samsung Infuse 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_infuse_4g_packs_a_45_super_amoled_plus_dis play-news-2194.php
its like beyond retina display, Super AMOLED technology. Hummingbird CPU, clocked at 1.2 GHz. The handset runs on Android 2.2 (Froyo) Two cameras have also been updated and the Infuse 4G now packs an 8 megapixel primary snapper and a 1.3 megapixel secondary unit (that camera destroys iphone ). LOL i wonder how iphone will compete with that
Yeah it might look good on the stat sheet but I think it all comes down to user experience, iOS vs android, and its tough to compete with iphone's jailbreaking community. Doesn't samsung make the screens for iphone? im not surprised they're holding out on the super good shiet for their own phones :)

[!Aznboi128]

^ problem with the 9780 is the camera still sucks. Lol and iphone 4 cost less 149 comparing to whatever a ipod touch is.
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[cliffhanger33]

^ problem with the 9780 is the camera still sucks. Lol and iphone 4 cost less 149 comparing to whatever a ipod touch is.
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$149 but ur still paying for two plans :P:P

[!Aznboi128]

A berry plan is cheap about 20 bucks a month it's not that bad.
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[noholo]

Lol I guess so, but its $149 cause its on a 3 year contract. Are you on contract for both? does that mean you got 2 phone numbers? ahah 1 for the broads and one for business

[cliffhanger33]

u srs ? lOL i guess that wud be another plus, bb's plans are better, ilke unlimited social networking, iphone plans dont hv that, but they hv a sick deal at fido for iphone 6 gb 3g data network 25 bux a month (which was same price for 500mb data before)

[!Aznboi128]

Bb plan for 20 bucks and iphone's about 50 it adds up but it works better overall. But I might go back to 1 plan soon as one of the plans I took over for my parents.
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[insomniac]

^ problem with the 9780 is the camera still sucks. Lol and iphone 4 cost less 149 comparing to whatever a ipod touch is.
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imo the 9780 camera is better than the iphone 4 camera.
tested it side by side.. the camera app loads faster too..
too bad the apps for bb cameras suck tho

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[- kT]

yeah holy crap tomtom gps on iphone is sick , the UI is amazing and I love HD youtube and the retina resolution.
but srsly samsung is competing with iphone , theyre release on the galaxy was already comparable with iphone 4 (in specs only imo :) ) but did u hear about their new samsung release? Samsung Infuse 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_infuse_4g_packs_a_45_super_amoled_plus_dis play-news-2194.php
its like beyond retina display, Super AMOLED technology. Hummingbird CPU, clocked at 1.2 GHz. The handset runs on Android 2.2 (Froyo) Two cameras have also been updated and the Infuse 4G now packs an 8 megapixel primary snapper and a 1.3 megapixel secondary unit (that camera destroys iphone ). LOL i wonder how iphone will compete with that

i wasn't willing to pitch 49.99 for gps (even though it's half the price of a real gps - and does anybody know how the "real" gps apps run? on data like the other apps?) - i've just been using the free mapquest app, but it's more then enough. i've used it for work a few times to deliver some parts and it's gotten me to some pretty hidden places

[Teh Doucher]

u srs ? lOL i guess that wud be another plus, bb's plans are better, ilke unlimited social networking, iphone plans dont hv that, but they hv a sick deal at fido for iphone 6 gb 3g data network 25 bux a month (which was same price for 500mb data before)

Are you just talking about the 6gb data plan that Rogers and fido offer for $30/month?
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[cliffhanger33]

Are you just talking about the 6gb data plan that Rogers and fido offer for $30/month?
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i think it was 25 /month 6 gb for iphone 4

[cliffhanger33]

i wasn't willing to pitch 49.99 for gps (even though it's half the price of a real gps - and does anybody know how the "real" gps apps run? on data like the other apps?) - i've just been using the free mapquest app, but it's more then enough. i've used it for work a few times to deliver some parts and it's gotten me to some pretty hidden places

the 'REAL' gps does not run in data, it runs in GPS built in on ur iPhone, so its free in every way.
Map quest still requires 3g / wifi network, the tomtom gps app does not require anything, u can turn off all data network and wifi and it still works (i tested it , works 100%)
:)

[StylinRed]

free navigation with true gps in the n8 :)

[Vansterdam]

i heard navigon is better then tomtom

what do you guys perfer?

[6insomnia9]

google maps ftw.

[ilvtofu]

All you do on a blackberry is text, IM, call and email basically. BB's are good for business, or if you're a busy person. I personally own an iPhone 4. I don't need to carry an mp3 player and a phone, and I can do so much on the iphone for fun. I still think Blackberrys are dope though, wouldn't mind owning both :).

I would argue against the BB for a business phone just because I've had bad experiences running around DT and dropping my phone and having to wait 5 mins or what feels like eternity for it to start up again. It's definitely not as reliable as the iphone and for that reason I disregard it as a better business phone. It crashes more frequently as well and the call quality is garbage. Even the hardware like the speakers can get all fucked up like it is on my gf's 9700. Business phones should be about efficiency and reliability. Now that I'm good at the iphone keyboard I find that I can type almost as fast as long as I'm stationary. If I'm running around however it's a different story

[cliffhanger33]

i heard navigon is better then tomtom

what do you guys perfer?

i never tried navigon... how much is that?

[!Yaminashi]

imo the 9780 camera is better than the iphone 4 camera.
tested it side by side.. the camera app loads faster too..
too bad the apps for bb cameras suck tho

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This cannot be true, the 9780 camera sucks compared to the iphone 4
If you have both, post examples

[ilvtofu]

Finding POIs on Navigon is horrible. I deleted it already, they make you go through categories etc. Can't just search something as simple as "sushi garden" or "shoppers" or maybe I just don't know how to use it. :/

[Psykopathik]

for anything text related = blackberry.

for ANYTHING other than text = iPhone.

personally, i type pretty fast on the iphone cuz im used to it. so to me BB is the fail. why txt when u can talk?

why i prefer iphone:

big screen/hi def.
HD video in/out
plays hd video
plays countless games
few physical mechanical parts
huge support base
GPS
Apps out the ying-yang
fast web browser
wifi


seems like a simple choice to me.

[!Aznboi128]

This cannot be true, the 9780 camera sucks compared to the iphone 4
If you have both, post examples

This. Was playin with 9780 cam sucks. Even gsmarena say so!
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[insomniac]

This cannot be true, the 9780 camera sucks compared to the iphone 4
If you have both, post examples

i guess iphone one is better eh?
i think the picture looks better on screen on the blackberry..
loads faster and takes like 2 seconds to upload unlike the iphone lol

top: bb
bottom: iphone

[InvisibleSoul]

FYI bold 9700 is the bold 2, the new one is called bold 9780 which basically is the same thing cept more ram and a better camera:nerd:
I know that. I guess I shouldn't have included the word "newer" in there.

[ilvtofu]

i guess iphone one is better eh?
i think the picture looks better on screen on the blackberry..
loads faster and takes like 2 seconds to upload unlike the iphone lol

top: bb
bottom: iphone

That is pretty hard to call they are pretty similar

[insomniac]

the iphone has slightlybetter quality...
but IMO the bb camera is an overall better camera
the speed wins me over.. when i whip out my phone i dont want to scroll thru apps and load the camera app.. takes like 10-15 seconds because i have to focus and shit on the iphone
the bb you just press the short key and take a pic which takes like 3 seconds and 3 seconds to upload to facebook..
it looks alot better on screen too..

i guess it all depends on preference. if you take pictures of friends and events and stuff then the iphone camera would be slightly better..

the bb would be a way better camera when spotting cars and taking pictures of homework etc

im a iOS fanboy and i like the bb camera more lol but nevertheless its still not bad for a phone camera.. just not as good as i expected it to be

edit: even the htc desire camera is better than the iphone.. the iphone camera is overated imo.. i was disappointed when i first got it lol

[!Aznboi128]

iPhone's camera in Daylight is better :p

[!Yaminashi]

I dunno, the bb camera picture looks alot grainier than the iphone.

I've had a few shots turn out ok with the 9780, I'm sure the iphone 4 outperforms the berry in good lighting.

I mean with limited lighting we cant expect great shots from any camera phone

[Kamui712]

^why are you by yourself in an empty classroom?

[!Aznboi128]

I dunno, the bb camera picture looks alot grainier than the iphone.

I've had a few shots turn out ok with the 9780, I'm sure the iphone 4 outperforms the berry in good lighting.

I mean with limited lighting we cant expect great shots from any camera phone
bet you my 903sh can take better pics

[!Yaminashi]

bet you my 903sh can take better pics

What RIM needs to do is get in contact with Sharp, and use the same camera optics as the 903sh.

Pure win.

Oh, and get their hands on some HD res screens

[6insomnia9]

Despite what everyone said OP, this is about you to be honest.

The factors that come into play when choosing between an Iphone and a Blackberry is all about the user.

If you need a business friendly oriented phone then you go with the blackberry cause it specializes in this area with its emails, texting, bbm and browser with its QWERTY keyboard , you can't go wrong.

If you like Apps/games or always want to do something with the phone, then you go with the Iphone.
It can't be broken down any easier than this.

Sure blackberry doesn't have a lot of apps nor games because blackberry never intended to make their phones this way, and that is visa versa with the iphone.

From personal experience, I have a 9780 , iphone 3g, and a htc diamond , as you can see that's 2 on screen keyboards and one physical QWERTY keyboard. I had the htc first, nice little phone but back when it was developed and distributed, htc has come a long way in improving their phones. The HTC diamond was a okay phone but the screen was too small to my liking as I keppt making mistakes as I was typing. Then I got the iphone (went through 2) apps were great , games were fun til a certain point , screen was bigger than the diamond but typing on it , it was the same, errors here and there. Then I get the blackberry 9700, my first blackberry and I had fell in love with it , I can give up the games and apps for it cause in tthe end I'm mostly just doing some quick texting and browsing. And bbm is such a awesome and well developed app and it is only getting better as they make BBM6. The QWERTY keyboard was awesome, no more touch screen bullshit mistakes and now I'm typing so fast and I can just text/bbm/email without even looking at the keyboard itself cause you just start remembering where everything is and how it is laid out. Like I've said , it all comes down to you and how you will go about using your phone daily whether it be just more apps and games or just hands down texting and bbm.

And to everyone who thinks iphones lighting is better? No, iphone does not overtake the blackberry, blackberry has its own flashlight and you get to choose what kind of picture you want to be taking for example close up , night time etc etc.
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[insomniac]

^why are you by yourself in an empty classroom?

small class.

and the room was really brightly lit..
i think it was the clash of indoor and outdoor light that gave false signals to the sensors haha

ill try again later outside for you guys tho

[cliffhanger33]

i guess iphone one is better eh?
i think the picture looks better on screen on the blackberry..
loads faster and takes like 2 seconds to upload unlike the iphone lol

top: bb
bottom: iphone

hard call coz iphone u can tap different focuses and get clearer shots, but yeah ur right, iphone camera is slow and sometimes lags, but the iOS 4 camera shutter speed is MUCH faster than the previous iOS 3 and below versions . it's slowly improving i guess

oh another thing i like about iphone is the mobileme tracking gps device. so if someone jacks up ur iphone, u can log on to itunes mobile me for free (offered in 4.2.1) and track down where ur iphone is , lock it up, and send a message to the phone via comp lOL its pretty sick

[Vansterdam]

I'm typing this on my touch4.1 while using my blackberrys data via Bluetooth!!!! :fuckyea:
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[dachinesedude]

been using a bold 9000 for the past 6 months, must say i miss my iphone 3G alot, prob gonna grab the next gen iphone when it comes out

[!Yaminashi]

Despite what everyone said OP, this is about you to be honest.

The factors that come into play when choosing between an Iphone and a Blackberry is all about the user.

If you need a business friendly oriented phone then you go with the blackberry cause it specializes in this area with its emails, texting, bbm and browser with its QWERTY keyboard , you can't go wrong.

If you like Apps/games or always want to do something with the phone, then you go with the Iphone.
It can't be broken down any easier than this.

Sure blackberry doesn't have a lot of apps nor games because blackberry never intended to make their phones this way, and that is visa versa with the iphone.

From personal experience, I have a 9780 , iphone 3g, and a htc diamond , as you can see that's 2 on screen keyboards and one physical QWERTY keyboard. I had the htc first, nice little phone but back when it was developed and distributed, htc has come a long way in improving their phones. The HTC diamond was a okay phone but the screen was too small to my liking as I keppt making mistakes as I was typing. Then I got the iphone (went through 2) apps were great , games were fun til a certain point , screen was bigger than the diamond but typing on it , it was the same, errors here and there. Then I get the blackberry 9700, my first blackberry and I had fell in love with it , I can give up the games and apps for it cause in tthe end I'm mostly just doing some quick texting and browsing. And bbm is such a awesome and well developed app and it is only getting better as they make BBM6. The QWERTY keyboard was awesome, no more touch screen bullshit mistakes and now I'm typing so fast and I can just text/bbm/email without even looking at the keyboard itself cause you just start remembering where everything is and how it is laid out. Like I've said , it all comes down to you and how you will go about using your phone daily whether it be just more apps and games or just hands down texting and bbm.

And to everyone who thinks iphones lighting is better? No, iphone does not overtake the blackberry, blackberry has its own flashlight and you get to choose what kind of picture you want to be taking for example close up , night time etc etc.
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You also forgot to account for the quality of the optics. If the iphone has better hardware (which it most likely does since its more media oriented) it will most likely take better pictures. Sure the blackberry has "flash" as well, but pair that with sub-par hardware and you're still left with mediocre picture quality.

No blackberry has ever been media oriented, theyre all meant to be for business users and people on the go who need email + messaging fast, with a hint of media.

[Teh Doucher]

I'm typing this on my touch4.1 while using my blackberrys data via Bluetooth!!!! :fuckyea:
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What's the name of the app???
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[Vansterdam]

^ i remember you asking for the ipad version which i beleive is ITETHER

you could also try PDANET for both blackberry/iphone4 , it turns your device into a wifi connection so you can tether to your iphone

[guesskid]

w/e suits you, for me its bb cause of bbm , if your a game type than iphone, chatting type, bb

[cliffhanger33]

w/e suits you, for me its bb cause of bbm , if your a game type than iphone, chatting type, bb

i guess iphone is awesome for multimedia, hence apple

[insomniac]

w/e suits you, for me its bb cause of bbm , if your a game type than iphone, chatting type, bb

chatting type i like android > bb
better keyboard and swype = win
like i said before you can type faster with one finger than a bb user with their thumbs with swype.
and voice keyboard really kicks ass and i never had a mistake with it yet..

and on android you can swipe down the notifications from the taskbar. you can also have notification flashes like the blackberry.
also you can have everything in widgets on the homescreen unlike iOS where all the apps are cluttered and all you can hide the apps in are folders

i really hate how badges sometimes show up late on the iphone and i hate finding the little bubbles on the top corner of the apps if you have badges or notifications disabled.

android market isnt as big as app store but i sometimes like android market more cause anyone can make the apps unlike apple where they reject some useful apps and most importantly, ADD ONS!! therefore android market doesnt completely suck when compared to app store.. android games arnt that bad either.

a con to androids is that they are more snappy than smooth if you know what i mean. sometimes they look like they are lagging but when you put a iphone side by side while the android looks like its "lagging" the iphone runs a animation which makes it look "smooth" when you tap open a app.

so my conclusion is

iPhone = best in media. if they had a better notification system and if they had widgets im sure it will be a much better phone. hopefully apple lets developers release add ons in the future? but i doubt they will.

android = good for chatting and very good for daily use. too bad battery and phone itself isnt better and if rooted and your rom isnt perfect, its pretty unreliable. but otherwise if android market had an app store like apple i would pick android anyday.

bb= good for email and chatting i guess.. i think im lucky cause i have never had lag on the bold interface.. alot of people complain that the interface lags alot.. i only had that on the torch lol

i conclude that android > all as much as i love the iphone.. after i had a talk with people on overclock.net these few days i started to miss android lol. i hated android at first before i installed custom roms.. the original roms sucks.. takes up so much space on the phone and lags the phone. which gives iphone fanboys a chance to say that android sucks.

- written by an iPhone 4 user :'( ROFL

[Gh0stRider]

Android widgets ftmfw
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[threezero]

What's the name of the app???
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myWI is by far the best 3g sharing app for the iOS.

does usb/bluetooth/wifi tethering

and unlike all the other tethering app it actually works as a wifi hotspot meaning you can connect more than 1 device to it.

[Teh Doucher]

app that allows an ipod/iphone to work with blackberry data via bluetooth...

[|<e|_]

BB + itouch ftw!

[Teh Doucher]

also lol @ these paragraph responses. all it comes down to is this OP, what do you want to use your phone for? if you want one of the best devices available for communicating, you buy a bb. if you want something thats more entertainment oriented, buy the iphone.

[cliffhanger33]

also lol @ these paragraph responses. all it comes down to is this OP, what do you want to use your phone for? if you want one of the best devices available for communicating, you buy a bb. if you want something thats more entertainment oriented, buy the iphone.

true, pricewise i think iphone is pretty worth it too, for what u get out of it

[gars]

swype might be faster, but it still requires you to look at the screen. I can type without looking - which really comes in handy. No physical keyboard is as good as the one on a blackberry - even the few Android Phones that one.

I'm really attracted to Android because of all the crazy add ons you can get for it... Can you edit the auto-correct on it just like a blackberry? My friend basically put so much shorthand into his auto-correct, he types insanely fast. I've slowly added things into there.

[Vansterdam]

Auto-correct on iPhone pisses the he'll out of me POS
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[TRDood]

Apple = American
RIM = Canadian

American businesses > Canadian businesses, at least on average.
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[insomniac]

swype might be faster, but it still requires you to look at the screen. I can type without looking - which really comes in handy. No physical keyboard is as good as the one on a blackberry - even the few Android Phones that one.

I'm really attracted to Android because of all the crazy add ons you can get for it... Can you edit the auto-correct on it just like a blackberry? My friend basically put so much shorthand into his auto-correct, he types insanely fast. I've slowly added things into there.
There is still the voice keyboard which I think kicks ass.. Desire z keyboard Is really nice IMO too bad it looks like shit and slider is weaksauce

Droid 2 keyboard is good too but motorola build quality is shit.. Had the milestone for a few weeks and it chips easy
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[Gh0stRider]

Nexus One + BB 9700 = WIN!

[Kamui712]

Typical Android Homescreen:
http://www.completeguides.net/@api/deki/files/5/=home_screen.png

Typical iPhone Homescreen:
http://www.theiphoneblog.com/images/stories/2009/10/iphone_homescreen_rene.jpg

Typical Blackberry Homescreen:
http://phonebuzz.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/home-screen1.png



now...

What Android is Capable of:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/5098899517_e3880e498e_d.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1429/5098899693_cfeb6a9377_d.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/5099511866_d9029fc64f_d.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1398/5098912015_7dd7b94585_d.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2184/niteowl360hd2desktopo.pnghttp://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/Bacon676/Phone%20shots/shot.png


I would gladly take scrollable widgets, customization, developer roms, live wallpapers, and cloud over BBM or Square Icons anyday.

[illicitstylz]

it's true, i personally go through a lot of phones, been symbian/bb/android.

loved bb, but had to try android because of the customization, dev support etc. as fun as it was during the two months i had it, it all became a novelty to "customize" to that extent, there wasn't a real need for it.

IMO, i'd take messaging/email/bbm'ing with my social network over fancy icons and mods to my phones.

[cliffhanger33]

it's true, i personally go through a lot of phones, been symbian/bb/android.

loved bb, but had to try android because of the customization, dev support etc. as fun as it was during the two months i had it, it all became a novelty to "customize" to that extent, there wasn't a real need for it.

IMO, i'd take messaging/email/bbm'ing with my social network over fancy icons and mods to my phones.

nnever tried android, i shud rlly test one out, it seems rlly popular and rlly understated

[ilvtofu]

Auto-correct on iPhone pisses the he'll out of me POS
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http://iphonehelp.in/2010/06/23/how-to-add-words-to-iphone-ios4-dictionary/

[illicitstylz]

nnever tried android, i shud rlly test one out, it seems rlly popular and rlly understated

it's a must if you're a "phone enthusiast"

[Si]

http://iphonehelp.in/2010/06/23/how-to-add-words-to-iphone-ios4-dictionary/

Too bad that doesn't help when it comes to deleting words/typos of mine that autocorrect has picked up..

"as" turns into "A's" after I used it once
"LOL" turns into "LPL" at times

fuuuu

[cliffhanger33]

Auto-correct on iPhone pisses the he'll out of me POS
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ya hell becomes he'll all the game, get that a lot LOL ^

[Teh Doucher]

ya hell becomes he'll all the game, get that a lot LOL ^

yup same here. and shit always becomes "shot", it annoys the shit out of me

[insomniac]

My "go" turns into "^go" all the time lol
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[cliffhanger33]

My "go" turns into "^go" all the time lol
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my yo is always YO and my ur is always UR, seems like im yelling or smth or emphasizing those words, its so annoying

[Groot]

but theres something called auto correction in this picture
you can turn auto correction on or off...should try it..:hotbaby:
http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/06/edit-disc-250x375.jpg

[gars]

but theres something called auto correction in this picture
you can turn auto correction on or off...should try it..:hotbaby:
http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/06/edit-disc-250x375.jpg

turning it off doesn't fix it....

[ilvtofu]

I've been using that user dictionary thing for about a week and must say it works great, I literally went through damn you auto correct to look for some words I might've forgotten

zzz -> xxx was one I just added 5 mins ago

I highly recommend taking the time to do this as it saves headache, I don't recommend turning off auto correct though, it actually helps a lot 70% of the time lol

[jeedee]

That's why blackberrys win. No auto correct mistakes and you can type all the swear words you want :troll:
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[cliffhanger33]

but theres something called auto correction in this picture
you can turn auto correction on or off...should try it..:hotbaby:
http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/06/edit-disc-250x375.jpg

ya but auto correct is actually rlly helpful too in a way LOL , it corrects most of my spelling errors properly when i type rlly fast on iphone, but there are just a few times when u gotta stop and re-edit what u wrote coz it was autocorrected wrong, iuno , i kinda just keep it on regardless

[Ikkaku]

is the edit user dictionary option only for 4.2? I don't see it on my 4.1

[Teh Doucher]

is the edit user dictionary option only for 4.2? I don't see it on my 4.1

i dont have it either on my 3gs with 4.1

[Teh Doucher]

For those of you with an iPhone, download this app called liveprofile. A LOT like bbm and it's free and available on blackberry and android as well!
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[Vansterdam]

^ how does it compare to whatsapp

lol lot more people use whatsapp thats for sure

[Ikkaku]

aww none of my friends use liveprofile :alone:

[Gh0stRider]

aww none of my friends use liveprofile :alone:

i got rid of it, it was kinda lame. had 1 person on it :alone:

[Teh Doucher]

^ how does it compare to whatsapp

lol lot more people use whatsapp thats for sure

id say its better, but thats just me. i only have one friend on it right now :(

[cliffhanger33]

id say its better, but thats just me. i only have one friend on it right now :(

how does it compare to whatsapp tho? LOLOL i hv like 50 ppl on whatsapp i love it, its fast convenient , picture sending is sick etc =)

[Teh Doucher]

how does it compare to whatsapp tho? LOLOL i hv like 50 ppl on whatsapp i love it, its fast convenient , picture sending is sick etc =)

just download it and see for yourself, the app is free lol. main thing it has going for it is the little S and R for sent and recived messages, also the fact that you can keep a display picture which pretty much simulates bbm. the thing that sucks for me though is that i know waaaaaay more people with a bb, so thats why i have to keep 2 phones :(.

[cliffhanger33]

just download it and see for yourself, the app is free lol. main thing it has going for it is the little S and R for sent and recived messages, also the fact that you can keep a display picture which pretty much simulates bbm. the thing that sucks for me though is that i know waaaaaay more people with a bb, so thats why i have to keep 2 phones :(.

LOLOLOL its crazy how ppl carry around both bb and iphone together

[Teh Doucher]

LOLOLOL its crazy how ppl carry around both bb and iphone together

im officially sick of it. ive decided that im porting over to rogers tomorrow and getting a 9780 :)

[KuSouL]

http://latestpriceindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/htc-desire-z.png

win

[!LittleDragon]

I got a iphone 4 when I renewed my Fido contract a few months ago. I tried it for 2 weeks when my Milestone died and I was so frustrated with it. Jailbreaking it made it slightly better. Just having to install iTunes on my PC to activate the phone was reason enough for me not to use it. It got to the point that after 2 weeks, I switched back to my WinMo phone until my Milestone came back from repair. I still have the iphone, it sits in the box most of the time, I do use it as a travel phone tho. iOS really needs to revamp the interface, allow things like widgets. The way it is now, it looks like an old colour Palm Pilot.

Blackberry, I have one for work but it's a business phone. It's really all it's good for and it excels at it.

[Teh Doucher]

Blackberry, I have one for work but it's a business phone. It's really all it's good for and it excels at it.

I hate when people say shit like this. If the average consumer wants a phone for communication, they buy a blackberry. If they need a phone that's more multimedia oriented, they buy the iphone/android. I doesn't get much harder then that.
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[ddr]

For those of you with an iPhone, download this app called liveprofile. A LOT like bbm and it's free and available on blackberry and android as well!
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hope this won't be a fiasco like the last cross-platform messenger that got pulled from by RIM

[Teh Doucher]

hope this won't be a fiasco like the last cross-platform messenger that got pulled from by RIM

Only reason it got pulled was because the person who developed the app used to be on the bbm team at blackberry
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[cliffhanger33]

Only reason it got pulled was because the person who developed the app used to be on the bbm team at blackberry
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what was it called

[BuyingDussault]

Blackberry is the best, texting and has wifi :) iPhone is only good because its touch screen.

[ddr]

Only reason it got pulled was because the person who developed the app used to be on the bbm team at blackberry
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yes i read that. so i take it this one isn't?

[Teh Doucher]

what was it called

kik

[cliffhanger33]

kik

rightt heard of that, i used it for a bit, but i love whatsapp more yo, new update has group chat :bigthumb:

[ilvtofu]

is the edit user dictionary option only for 4.2? I don't see it on my 4.1

i dont have it either on my 3gs with 4.1


Yes it has it, I'm on 4.1, click the original link I shared, you have to turn on a japanese keyboard I don't remember which one exactly though

[6insomnia9]

http://crackberry.com/video-demo-new-blackberry-travel-app

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-messenger-6-0-coming-soon-loads-new-features

enuff said

[Teh Doucher]

Yes it has it, I'm on 4.1, click the original link I shared, you have to turn on a japanese keyboard I don't remember which one exactly though

why the hell would i turn on a japanese keyboard?

[Teh Doucher]

http://crackberry.com/video-demo-new-blackberry-travel-app

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-messenger-6-0-coming-soon-loads-new-features

enuff said

not quite

[cliffhanger33]

on facebook for blackberry, when u get an facebook inbox, does the message go direclty to your phone message list? or u gotta open facebook app to read the inbox message