[Levitron]

Your thoughts on this?

Here in Vancouver it gets rainy and sometimes a bit snowy. The snow days are the ones that worry me.

[!Tigger]

buy a hardtop?

[ddonovan]

There are lots of guys over in Van that DD their car. Check the S2Ki site. I DD mine.

[flagella]

Hardtop isn't necessary, unless you prefer the look of it. In winter, with snow tires, there shouldn't be any issues unless it snows so hard to the point that you have clearance issues with your bumper. Really depends on if you like small cockpit honestly. Driving the car for prolonged period of time may be tiring.

[!Aznboi128]

^ snow tires would be great

example with out snow tires
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs053.snc6/168342_10150119510358760_507998759_7799758_2104748 _n.jpg

[Groot]

careful, you dont want to be like our famous larry chu :fullofwin:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs053.snc6/168342_10150119510358760_507998759_7799758_2104748 _n.jpg

edit: FUUUU beat me to it :(

[TypeRNammer]

:troll:

[!Aznboi128]

hahahhaha 1 min!

[GabAlmighty]

Snow days? What snow days?

[1exotic]

why not, manual and rwd is a fun/good daily driver just getting around town.

+ it barely snows over 12 months in the year... if it gets cold just drive careful and not like larry faggy chu.

[Energy]

I dd mine and lots of others do too. Most important thing is to have the right tires for the conditions and to be sure those tires have plenty of tread.

Use some common sense when its not nice and sunny and you'll be fine. Just remember there's no stability or traction control before 06 so there are no electronic nannies to save you and the s2000 will respond to every little input you make. The handling is very neutral and you can tell when the rear is going to break loose so be aware of that.

The car makes for a great dd.

[truong]

I use my as a dd for summer driving. But it does take some time to get use to the way the vehicle handles in certain weather conditions

[toyota86]

anything can be daily driven. sometimes, sacrifices must be made to do it.
i dd a 4.0l v8 that takes premium and only gets 15L/100km when hypermiling. 20L+ with spirited driving. car was designed when gas was 35-40 cents per liter. i budget some of my "eating out at fancy restaurants" to feed the beast instead.

as for the s2k. why not. i've driven a few. the only things that i have a problem with is the ground clearance even when stock, the road/exhaust noise and the lack of space because im a big guy. i would dd one if i had one. they are quick, reliable, cheap to maintain, ok on gas.

[ree666]

i dd mine too. might as well enjoy it everyday. why not enjoy getting from point A to point B. just transit it when theres snow, if you dont want to invest in some snow tires.

[FerrariEnzo]

wouldnt snow be rough on the soft top??? im guessing the hardtop is more suited for the winter.. but then again it doesnt snow alot here, just look at this winter.. so it wouldnt really matter

it rains lots, so having good wet tires on the other hand is a far better idea..

[jasonturbo]

I am looking at getting back into another s2000 for this summer, here is my take on the car and using it as a DD.

Back in 2005 I test drove a brand new S2k and hated it. I was slow, numb, and it was a bit rainy that day so we went for the test drive with the top up... I felt like I was in a very small and confined cockpit. So I jumped back into my 97 del sol with ITR swap, 5 lug, tien coils, etc. and left thinking "Why would anyone want one of those cars?" Compared to my del sols roomy cabin, power, tight handling and steering response, and removable targa top, to me it seemed to be the superior vehicle. Though even with mugen aero on the del sol, the s2k obviously won in looks department.

So fast forward a couple years of me bashing the s2k, I end up trading my 1998 CW ITR for a 2000 S2k, bone stock other than H&R springs. Well this is when I learned the difference between ap1 and ap2... ap2 is bunk. I loved that car so much, but had to sell it when I started my company to free up some capital... plus it was silverstone, not my first choice in color.

So now I am looking at buying another ap1 as a summer car, to me there is no downside to this unless it rains all summer and I can never drop the top. Which leads me to why I wrote this in the first place....

Top up in the s2k, well how I would describe the car with the top up? Nasty, dingy, loud, very confined. The main reason I wouldnt want an s2k as a DD, is because I have a very hard time enjoying the car with the soft top up. The cockpit just feels way too tight with the top up, and I'm a pretty skinny guy at 155lbs 5'11". So for a large part of the winter, long road trips, rain and shit weather you will have the top up and IMO it's not nearly as easy to enjoy the car when the top is black instead of sunshine.

Having said that, is the trade off worth it? It might be... I also cant comment on a hard top but they still fetch 2500-3000$ on s2ki, plus you need 2 people to remove it, and somewhere to store it when it's off... someplace safe because it cost so much friggin money.

I would say go for it, worst case scenario you decide you dont like it as a winter car, buy a 1000$ civic and use that the 3 months of the year the weather sucks.

Hope this helps you decide, really spend some time in one with the top up is my advice.... I dont like it at all... but maybe you wont mind?

On a side note, S2K FTMFW!!!! Hoodrat bitchz love rolling with the top down pretending to be rich, so it's great for picking up durtyz.

[hk20000]

It can be summed up by one picture and one picture alone:
http://www.burtmanindustries.com/s2000/s_trunk.jpg

you aren't gonna be able to fit much of anything in there...

[LiquidTurbo]

^ My thoughts exactly.

[jasonturbo]

I was always surprised at how much I could fit in the trunk of the S2k?

It seems to me a much bigger trunk than a g35 for instance. (With it's useless mini pass through)

I don't even like having shit in my car, trunk or cabin area... interior scratches are my enemy.

[PJ]

S2K's trunk is actually surprisingly big for its size. Bigger than a 350z, I don't think it's bigger than a G35..

[Leopold Stotch]

Don't even talk about the G35 trunk. Its so low profile and shallow it amazed me. With my 12" sub in there I have enough room for 2 or 3 backpacks but the G35 is a bit wider so without anything in the trunk you can fit a hockey bag in, and not in S2000 I don't think, also no room to put a hockey stick. That was one of my nmain concerns when I purchased my /G35
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[jasonturbo]

Yes if you need to put long items in the S2k, you're limited to having that item ride shottie lol.

You could fit a hockey bag in S2k trunk. If you're a goalie... maybe not.

[Energy]

Trunk of an S2000 fits two golf bags. It can even fit regular sized luggages if you remove the spare.

[ddonovan]

I can fit all my hockey equipment in the trunk of my S2000.

[RabidRat]

I daily drive my '03 AP1 year-round. I used to drive up to Whistler through snow storms all the time to go snowboarding and never once had any issues.

I'm working in Waterloo, Ontario right now and regularly drive back and forth to Toronto. It snows here pretty much every day and I've seen some pretty epic snowfall - just last week there was a blizzard warning and all the schools shut down. Got an email from my boss not to come in to work and everything.

...so I went to work anyway :lol. There is no stopping this beast, you just need good snow tires. My Blizzak WS-70's have been great to me. The only time you're in trouble is when the snow piles up significantly higher than the front bumper and you've run out of forward momentum. But even then I used to carry chains (still do actually, even though they're illegal out here) and they were good for peace of mind.

[RabidRat]

It can be summed up by one picture and one picture alone:
http://www.burtmanindustries.com/s2000/s_trunk.jpg

you aren't gonna be able to fit much of anything in there...

See that bulge on the right? That's for the spare tire - if you take out the spare tire and leave that panel off, suddenly you gain a lot more space. I put all my groceries in there. =)

Also, if you look at the bottom of that picture, that's where your emergency toolkit goes. Take that out and you get a bunch more space too.

And finally if you really need the space, you gain a LOT by taking out the trunk lining. I almost fit my entire snowboard in there; I was maybe two inches off with my 156mm board.

[Energy]

^ That first time it snowed here last year I was actually excited to go to school early in the morning just to be able to use my snow tires. I have the same ones as you and they're awesome in snow.

Good tip on the trunk linings. I haven't tried that one yet!

[rk604]

I've DD an s2k for 3 years, close to 4 now. Few things that may entertain/bother you:

1.) Road noise, wind, or just general noise
2.) 2 Seater
3.) Not much room in the cabin, BUT the trunk has been more than enough for my daily needs
4.) Cheap to maintain, the past 3/4 years i've only had to change the rear wheels bearings on one of the s2k and the clutch. Gas is very comparable to an RSX, so its pretty decent for a sports roadster
5.) Stock s2k is a monster truck, you'll have plenty of ground clearance to commute around town.
6.) Snow shouldn't not even be an issue. Look at this year, it was supposed to snow a lot, and it only snowed hard for about a week or two in total. Either you take the transit or use other methods of transportation during those time periods, and you'll be fine. If you have the money, go for hardtop, if not, softtop will do just fine.
7. Regardless if you get AP1/AP2, its a car you have to finesse, from simple as shifting and how the car handles.

[TypeRNammer]

All this talk about the s2000 makes me wanna hop into a 2 seater again. But I'm addicted to the space in my hatchback.
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[twitchyzero]

eh just my personal opinion to always have emergency tools/spare tire on the car.

[baggdis300]

With Japanese cars you don't need them

Heck I took out my spare and all tools In my is after bagging it have not needed it

Heck the spare was still brand new same with all tools after 5 years

[MindBomber]

eh just my personal opinion to always have emergency tools/spare tire on the car.

+1 but does anyone actually check their spare to make sure it's still road worthy?

My spare has been used once in 9 years, I would rather have BCAA tow me to a tire shop than risk driving on it.

[flagella]

You can fit 2 golf bags in the trunk.

http://gallery.s2ki.com/imagecatalog/imageview/123970/

If you need more space, then you shouldn't be looking at a roadster.

[vo_hantu]

I don't think you should worry about the 'snowy days' in your choice. If it's really bad out just take public transit.

You can fit a lot...just need to be creative :D

Here are some funnies, good luck with your purchase.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/5fizz/SSPX0560.jpg?t=1279120345

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/robbie27_2000/34174_130537276979906_1000007090395.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/robbie27_2000/36954_130537060313261_1000007090395.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/Sakai621/photo-3.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n273/fireman1291/DSC03170.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/psychoazn/1004081558.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b285/hotazzback/pic3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b285/hotazzback/pic1.jpg

[Levitron]

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm looking to pick one up some time after summer, in Sept or Oct. Crappy thing is now I want to try driving one, but it's kind of hard to find one.

[spyker]

Levitron,go down to the U.S and buy one,they are alot cheaper than the ones locally.

You will save alot of $$$$.

[AccordCoupedd]

Larry Chu should be able to charm in, in this forum. Try giving him a PM :troll:

[AccordCoupedd]

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n273/fireman1291/DSC03170.jpg

:fullofwin:

[ddonovan]

'07 NFR at Campus Honda in Victoria..., although I just drove by and it appears to have 08 wheels.

[Levitron]

Levitron,go down to the U.S and buy one,they are alot cheaper than the ones locally.

You will save alot of $$$$.

That's what I'm leaning towards. I think I end up saving around $1-2g after import duties, taxes, and fees.

[jasonturbo]

I'm currently searching for one stateside, hopefully I will find the right car before summer!!!! Priced out a set of 17x9 RPF1 in SBC finish today :D

[vo_hantu]

If you guys are looking for one, my friend is thinking about selling his 2006 grand prix white (low mileage) with red interior, canadian car.

PM me if you want contact info.

[Energy]

How can you beat that... GPW, red interior, and its a Canadian car too! Perfect s2k.

[Levitron]

How can you beat that... GPW, red interior, and its a Canadian car too! Perfect s2k.

...only if the price is right ;)

[jasonturbo]

Yeah too bad it's lame shit DBW, soft suspension, low reving AP2.

Who cares if a car is Canadian or American? They are the exact same.

Though GPW on red is a decent combo.

I really encourage you to drive both ap1 and ap2 before you buy.

[Levitron]

Yeah too bad it's lame shit DBW, soft suspension, low reving AP2.

Who cares if a car is Canadian or American? They are the exact same.

Though GPW on red is a decent combo.

I really encourage you to drive both ap1 and ap2 before you buy.What colour are you looking for? I really need to go try them out for sure. Just need to find one available for me to do so.

[Roach]

Levitron I'm thinking the same.

Are you going to sell the MS3?

I'd think MS3 + S2K would be best of both worlds for me.

Kev

[flagella]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5426021931_c4bf598212_z.jpg

[d1]

It takes a week (at most) to get used to the cramped interior, but after that initial shock, nothing else beats it. I'm selling mine now but I have no doubt that I'll be looking for another one in the future.

[JDMCivic]

The dbw isn't even an issue I've driven every year of the s2k and my 06 with dbw and vsa feels just great...wish summer was here so I can take it out of hiatus
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[Levitron]

Levitron I'm thinking the same.

Are you going to sell the MS3?

I'd think MS3 + S2K would be best of both worlds for me.

Kev

Lease is up on my MS3, so I'm going to say goodbye towards the end of the year. I've seen a posting up on S2Ki for someone who went from MS3 to S2K and loved it....so I think we would too.

[ddonovan]

I know of a GPW '06 with low KM's for sale here on the island as a private sale. Black interior though.

http://sigcreator.andrewjnuttall.com/s2k/created/DDonovan.png?rand=139012376

[Energy]

The dbw isn't even an issue I've driven every year of the s2k and my 06 with dbw and vsa feels just great...wish summer was here so I can take it out of hiatus
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Some people just want to be more hardcore is all. I prefer a cable throttle but wouldn't mind the dbw. VSA would also be nice, I just have to be more careful without it.

Today was a great day to go top down. Too bad I'm stuck indoors.

[jmanhas]

Lease is up on my MS3, so I'm going to say goodbye towards the end of the year. I've seen a posting up on S2Ki for someone who went from MS3 to S2K and loved it....so I think we would too.

parting out? ^^ haha
sad to see you leaving us :(

[Elder_MMHS]

Lease is up on my MS3, so I'm going to say goodbye towards the end of the year. I've seen a posting up on S2Ki for someone who went from MS3 to S2K and loved it....so I think we would too.

I think if you can appreciate finesse in the same way you do the brutishness of the MS3, you will enjoy an S2K. It is, in many ways, the polar opposite of an MS3. I've had the good fortune of co-driving a 2004 AP2 for a couple autocross seasons and it's a terrific car. I was considering an S2000 at one point too but logistics and economics would be unrealistic as I consider my MS3 a keeper. I'm sure it is a capable daily driver taking into account the points everyone has already mentioned. Oh, the stock radio is dinky but there's an aftermarket for it and you can always just listen to the VTEC soundtrack. :D

Hope everything works out for you!

[younglude]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5426021931_c4bf598212_z.jpg

is that your car?

[El Dumbasso]

Yeah too bad it's lame shit DBW, soft suspension, low reving AP2.

http://cdn.theurbandaily.com/files/2010/10/Good-News3.jpg
Larry Chu is back!

[younglude]

Yeah too bad it's lame shit DBW, soft suspension, low reving AP2.

OMG,

so true

AP2 is like a neutered AP1

[JDMCivic]

Larry speaks troof
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[hi-revs]

I DD my AP1. no issues whatsoever

[need2speed]

02-03 are the best years, glass window and 9k redline

[RabidRat]

It takes a week (at most) to get used to the cramped interior, but after that initial shock, nothing else beats it. I'm selling mine now but I have no doubt that I'll be looking for another one in the future.

How come?

[d1]

I got my hands on a mercedes 560 sel so I'm gonna roll in that for now. If it simply turns out to be something like this, I'll be happy:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8319/yakuza560sel.jpg

[MindBomber]

What colour are you looking for? I really need to go try them out for sure. Just need to find one available for me to do so.

It's a bit of a drive from Richmond, but Honda Way in Abbotsford always seems to have at least 10 s2ks. I'm sure they'd let you test out the difference between an ap1 and ap2, plus there are a few awesome roads very close to do the dealership to test one out on.

[ddonovan]

^ If you're going to honda way let me know. I can hook you up with the sales manager there. They sponsored our poker run in a big way last year and I helped him out with the S2000 summer meet they put on.

[Zulu]

Buy a corvette instead. It's like an s2k that didn't have its balls chopped off. Oh and plenty of trunk space for dead hookers or whatever it is that you need trunk space for.

[younglude]

or boost it and blow the doors off a corvette

[Zulu]

or boost it and still be slower than a corvette

fixed that for you.

[younglude]

funny guy. i know of several s2k's that are finishing up winter builds that mean otherwise

[vo_hantu]

funny guy. i know of several s2k's that are finishing up winter builds that mean otherwise

:woot2:

The lag in the DBW is hardly noticeable. Nothing compared to the R18/FG2. FPro is also very nice for DBW owners. Pros/cons i guess.

[jasonturbo]

It's not just the DBW alone of the AP2 that causes the numbness, its the engine, the sway bars, the springs and struts etc. Honda softened up the car because it was too "twitchy" for loser american nascar fans that are terrified of right hand turns. And who cares about stability management...?

On the subject of the corvette, I like vettes, but its a shame the interior feels like it was deisgned by a 5 year old and built out of his play-doh. Doesn't matter how fast your vette is, you still look like a doucebag driving one. To me, a vette is for people that don't have the money or class to buy an "actual" sueprcar, yes the performance of a Z06 is great, but the styling, the fit/finish, and the lack of any form of exclusivity would prevent me from buying one.

Now I'm not saying an s2k is superior to a vette, but the interior of a car is very important to me, and the ergonomics and comfort of the s2k IMO is far superior to that of the vette which costs nearly twice as much.

[kenny@s2ki]

Just mod an AP2 and it will feel "stiffer"

http://www.s2ki.com/gallery/image/medium/752692.jpg

[Levitron]

It's a bit of a drive from Richmond, but Honda Way in Abbotsford always seems to have at least 10 s2ks. I'm sure they'd let you test out the difference between an ap1 and ap2, plus there are a few awesome roads very close to do the dealership to test one out on.

Wow, they do have a lot of stock on S2K's. Thanks for the heads up.

[oldsnail]

i had my sw20 as a DD for at least 4 years before i sold it.. it has less trunk space than the s2k which did not really bother me.. in winter.. snow tires... had snow tires with IS300 rims on..

[Rev]

What colour are you looking for? I really need to go try them out for sure. Just need to find one available for me to do so.

I have a friend selling a beautiful 2003 (glass back) GPW / Red interior / AP2 upgrades all around - with SSR Professors. PM me.

[KidRobot]

Buy a corvette instead. It's like an s2k that didn't have its balls chopped off. Oh and plenty of trunk space for dead hookers or whatever it is that you need trunk space for.A C5 vette isn't exactly in the same price range..

[younglude]

and the op was asking about s2ks not asking what he should get

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

OP should get a ferrari

[Zulu]

Sorry I forgot I was on acura-tatooed-on-my-forehead scene.

[RabidRat]

A C5 vette isn't exactly in the same price range..

and the op was asking about s2ks not asking what he should get

Sorry I forgot I was on acura-tatooed-on-my-forehead scene.

Are you fucking retarded? What part of this don't you understand?

[rk604]

That's what I'm leaning towards. I think I end up saving around $1-2g after import duties, taxes, and fees.

you actually save a bit more than that. the price you see down in the states is the listed price, you could probably haggle for a few thousands more. if you have the time, importing one is definitely a better direction to head

[need2speed]

^^ just make sure you can get the recall leter from honda usa

[Levitron]

you actually save a bit more than that. the price you see down in the states is the listed price, you could probably haggle for a few thousands more. if you have the time, importing one is definitely a better direction to head

That's true. I keep forgetting that there is some room for bargaining.

Looking at Honda Way in Abbotsford though, they have some really low mileage cars....if they're good cars, I don't mind paying a little more.

[LiquidTurbo]

The only way the S2K is a great daily driver is.... if you have another daily driver:D.

[Death2Theft]

Why because american/german cars have inferior tires?
With Japanese cars you don't need them

Heck I took out my spare and all tools In my is after bagging it have not needed it

Heck the spare was still brand new same with all tools after 5 years

[Death2Theft]

Or boost the vette and your back to square 1 smart guy. Most of you s2k fanboy corvette haters have never driven a corvette. If you want to live your life based on judging magazine photos of interiors good for you. Personally i'll take being able to do 70kmph in 6th gear, over having to kick in vtak to get out of your own way up a hill.
or boost it and blow the doors off a corvette

[spyker]

That's true. I keep forgetting that there is some room for bargaining.

Looking at Honda Way in Abbotsford though, they have some really low mileage cars....if they're good cars, I don't mind paying a little more.

Alot of the S2K's at Honda Way are U.S imports,they mark the prices up really high,higher than anyone else,I am also in the market for a S2K,I've been to that dealership already,they are a ripoff.

You won't be paying a little more,you are going to be paying ALOT more if you buy from them.

[jasonturbo]

Or boost the vette and your back to square 1 smart guy

Or swap 2jzGTE into s2k and smoke boosted vette.

I think the point of the statement of boosting a s2k was in some way supposed to convey the idea a boosted s2k would be faster and CHEAPER than a Z06.

Plus, again, you dont have corvette interior, "McHappy Meal" toys are a higher grade of plastic than the vette dash.

[Death2Theft]

Does the hardtop give you much more interior space since it goes around and "outside" the soft top? Does it help much in the way of road noise?

[Death2Theft]

So you've ruined the weight balance of the car and have admitted that the s2k can't keep up without an engine from another manufacturer. Thanks for playing. :failed:

Now jasonricerturbo, let me know when a 2jz makes 1000hp on pump gas no meth. 1750+hp on the 427 on 109 octane without swapping in another engine from a different manufacturer.
Remember anything you add the corvette can too. Now if you want to play the engine swap game welcome to 2300hp low boost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aS2cIfCTk
Or swap 2jzGTE into s2k and smoke boosted vette.

I think the point of the statement of boosting a s2k was in some way supposed to convey the idea a boosted s2k would be faster and CHEAPER than a Z06.

Plus, again, you dont have corvette interior, "McHappy Meal" toys are a higher grade of plastic than the vette dash.

[spyker]

Does the hardtop give you much more interior space since it goes around and "outside" the soft top? Does it help much in the way of road noise?

The hardtop does not give you anymore interior space,not any you will notice anyways.What it does do is,keeps road noise down to a minimum and keeps the heat in during cold weather.

.....it also looks cool with one too.

[spyker]

Or swap 2jzGTE into s2k and smoke boosted vette.

I think the point of the statement of boosting a s2k was in some way supposed to convey the idea a boosted s2k would be faster and CHEAPER than a Z06.

Plus, again, you dont have corvette interior, "McHappy Meal" toys are a higher grade of plastic than the vette dash.

There's no need to do a motor swap on a S2K,they have already proven themselves with the boosted motors they came with.

The S2K is regarded highly and is considered to be in the Supra territory(or the next Supra)when it comes to making power on a stock or built block.

[jasonturbo]

So you've ruined the weight balance of the car and have admitted that the s2k can't keep up without an engine from another manufacturer. Thanks for playing. :failed:

Now jasonricerturbo, let me know when a 2jz makes 1000hp on pump gas no meth. 1750+hp on the 427 on 109 octane without swapping in another engine from a different manufacturer.
Remember anything you add the corvette can too. Now if you want to play the engine swap game welcome to 2300hp low boost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aS2cIfCTk


I'm not saying I would swap the 2jz into a S2k, merely pointing out that I thought that was a retarded arguement altogether. I believe the S2k is a great car the way it came from the factory, it's more than fast enough to keep me amused.

Since when is 109 pump gas? Where do you live?

This thread was never about vette vs S2k, so I'm not sure why vette-fanboys are in here trying to tell us how there car's are superior?

Nothing you can say about a vette changes the fact that the interior is about as fantastic as that of a Geo Metro.

Hardtop, the oem one is nice, aftermarket not so much... more suited to race car. The interior of oem hard top is nicely upholstered, and does create the feeling of a little more interior space. The soft top lets lots of noise in compared to a conventional hard top... the oem hard top cuts down on noise a lot.

[Death2Theft]

Supra territory? Hardly lets just say the supra didn't break valve springs on stock power daily driving.
There's no need to do a motor swap on a S2K,they have already proven themselves with the boosted motors they came with.


The S2K is regarded highly and is considered to be in the Supra territory(or the next Supra)when it comes to making power on a stock or built block.

[Death2Theft]

Did you miss the period? 1000+ on pump 92 octane. Did that clarification help?

Driving the cramped2k the last thing I was looking at was the interior, I did really like the radio controls on the left. I guess there was time spent staring at the interior, as I was waiting for the revs to come up trying to make it up big hills. When your driving a fun responsive 2 seater sports car what the fuck are you doing mucking around with the interior? Go drive a 4 door and fiddle with your fancy interior while the kids are fighting in the backseat.
I'm not saying I would swap the 2jz into a S2k, merely pointing out that I thought that was a retarded arguement altogether. I believe the S2k is a great car the way it came from the factory, it's more than fast enough to keep me amused.

Since when is 109 pump gas? Where do you live?

This thread was never about vette vs S2k, so I'm not sure why vette-fanboys are in here trying to tell us how there car's are superior?

Nothing you can say about a vette changes the fact that the interior is about as fantastic as that of a Geo Metro.

Hardtop, the oem one is nice, aftermarket not so much... more suited to race car. The interior of oem hard top is nicely upholstered, and does create the feeling of a little more interior space. The soft top lets lots of noise in compared to a conventional hard top... the oem hard top cuts down on noise a lot.

[freakshow]

the vette will cost more than the s2k up front, but lets not kid ourselves, it WILL be faster. and you really dont wanna get into the 'bang for the buck' mod argument with someone running an LSx engine..

[jasonturbo]

Personally i'll take being able to do 70kmph in 6th gear, over having to kick in vtak to get out of your own way up a hill.

I guess there was time spent staring at the interior, as I was waiting for the revs to come up trying to make it up big hills.


Do you just drive up hills all day?

[Death2Theft]

Thats hilarous coming from someone that lives in n.van, it's also nice when u want to pass the soccer mom in the suv without downshifting and sounding like your street racing.
Do you just drive up hills all day?

[!e.lo_]

For a daily, one would look for practicality, gas consumption, maintenance costs, reliabilty, ease of driving/parking, comfort, and most important, in my view, how the car makes you feel.
There's other factors as well, but if an S2000 fits the bill, why not dd one?
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[CKLCKL]

There's no need to do a motor swap on a S2K,they have already proven themselves with the boosted motors they came with.

The S2K is regarded highly and is considered to be in the Supra territory(or the next Supra)when it comes to making power on a stock or built block.

S2k wishes it was in supra territory . lol

[flagella]

This is annoying. If you check s2ki forums, there are plenty of people who have respect for vette, and some have made the switch from s2k to vette. Now why are vette fanboys wasting bandwidths in a thread about S2000?

[jing]

Doesnt death2theft drive a scion?
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[Death2Theft]

Yes, I do. Whats your point?
Doesnt death2theft drive a scion?
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[jing]

Yes, I do. Whats your point?

No point really. I was just curious :)
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[jasonturbo]

Yes, I do. Whats your point?

How is the scion going up hills?

[ree666]

^ bahahahha holy win!

[Death2Theft]

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.
How is the scion going up hills?

[younglude]

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.

cool story bro

[bcedhk]

im also debating whether a s2000 will be a good DD. what are the common issues with ap1 / ap2? if i rmb, wasn't there a big issue with AP1's transmission?

[Death2Theft]

Well some of us can only dream about owning an 89 accord unlike some people.
cool story bro

[jasonturbo]

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.

Well let's be reasonable here...

2008 S2000
Weight: 2765
TQ: 162
HP: 237
1st: 3.13:1
2nd: 2.04:1
3rd: 1.48:1
4th: 1.16:1
5th: 0.94:1
6th: 0.76:1
Secondary gear reduction: 1.208
Final drive: 4.100

Actual final in 5th is 3.854 (Plus you still have an extra gear for the hwy)

Giving you a TQ/Weight ratio of 0.058 ft.lbs per pound.


2008 Scion XB
Weight: 3020
TQ: 162
HP: 158
Gear ratios
1st: 3.54:1
2nd: 1.90:1
3rd: 1.31:1
4th: 0.96:1
5th: 0.81:1
Final: 4.31

Actual final in 5th is 3.491

Giving you a TQ/weight ratio of 0.053 ft.lbs per pound.

So basically, in the S2k, you have a car with the same amount of crank TQ, that weighs about 250lbs less, has 79 more HP... and shorter gearing (In 5th gear anyway, which is the only gear you use according to your never ending hill climbing posts)

It's pretty obvious you just have a hate on for the S2k, first you compared it to a Vette (Which you don't own..), then a Scion, none of which had anything to do with the thread subject.

So hows about you just GTFO and put an end to the outrageous owning that just took place.

(Disclaimer)**I might be wrong about which scion you drive, but you said 5th gear so I assume you have the C-150 5 spd.**

[younglude]

Well some of us can only dream about owning an 89 accord unlike some people.

an 89 accord your other car?

[jasonturbo]

im also debating whether a s2000 will be a good DD. what are the common issues with ap1 / ap2? if i rmb, wasn't there a big issue with AP1's transmission?

There was a TSB for replacement of one component in the trans from brass to carbon.. I can't recall what part it was though.

No issues really, look at the miles on most AP1/AP2 and the service history, the cars are just as reliable as any othe Honda.

It's not reliability that will prevent you from making this a DD, its whether or not you can live with any 2 seater.

Besides there is far superior vehicles out there, like the Chevrolet Corvette and the Scion XB. Right death2theft?

[Death2Theft]

I dont have an 08 minivan mine weighs 2400. If i wanted to drive around a big heavy pos for a DD i'd get a real suv/minivan. Go drive a shitbox with more torque than hp, has a redline that ends before your mighty vtec even wakes up and weighs 400lbs. Then you might discover what a usable powerband feels like.
The only owning i'm aware of is you thinking 2jz = solution to everything, which only a imbecile would think given that the lsx wins road racing champsionships left and right. Where as the only thing the 2jz competes against officially are fwd drag racing hondas.

If you think pointing out the s2k's dd shortcoming = me flaming and you getting your panties in a bunch than your obviously too blinded by your temple of vtec and the fanboys of the temple.
Well let's be reasonable here...

2008 S2000
Weight: 2765
TQ: 162
HP: 237
1st: 3.13:1
2nd: 2.04:1
3rd: 1.48:1
4th: 1.16:1
5th: 0.94:1
6th: 0.76:1
Secondary gear reduction: 1.208
Final drive: 4.100

Actual final in 5th is 3.854 (Plus you still have an extra gear for the hwy)

Giving you a TQ/Weight ratio of 0.058 ft.lbs per pound.


2008 Scion XB
Weight: 3020
TQ: 162
HP: 158
Gear ratios
1st: 3.54:1
2nd: 1.90:1
3rd: 1.31:1
4th: 0.96:1
5th: 0.81:1
Final: 4.31

Actual final in 5th is 3.491

Giving you a TQ/weight ratio of 0.053 ft.lbs per pound.

So basically, in the S2k, you have a car with the same amount of crank TQ, that weighs about 250lbs less, has 79 more HP... and shorter gearing (In 5th gear anyway, which is the only gear you use according to your never ending hill climbing posts)

It's pretty obvious you just have a hate on for the S2k, first you compared it to a Vette (Which you don't own..), then a Scion, none of which had anything to do with the thread subjet.

So hows about you just GTFO and put an end to the outrageous owning that just took place.

(Disclaimer)**I might be wrong about which scion you drive, but you said 5th gear so I assume you have the C-150 5 spd.**

[Death2Theft]

Great if you have an s2k as your summer car (Y)
an 89 accord your other car?

[younglude]

your scion weighs 2400lbs?

what model do you own?

[jasonturbo]

I dont have an 08 minivan mine weighs 2400. If i wanted to drive around a big heavy pos for a DD i'd get a real suv.
The only owning i'm aware of is you thinking 2jz = solution to everything, which only a imbecile would think given that the lsx wins road racing champsionships left and right. Where as the only thing the 2jz competes against officially are fwd drag racing hondas.

Funny cause Reg Reimer ran the "one lap of america" in his a supra powered by... you guessed it... 2jz gte and came in 4th place. Yeah he was behind one Vette, but he was also in front of many more... and this was back in 2000... supra support stateside was still in it's infancy, he was and still is a considered a pioneer in the supra world.
http://www.monsterhorsepower.com/

Back to the subject at hand, I think you were about to tell us all about your "sporty" Scion?

I like how you tried to shift attention away from your own stupidity by bringing up a statement with was only used as an obvious satire in the first place.

The only reason your Scion even breaks the wheels lose going up hills in the rain is cause of the 15" garbage all season 75 series tires.

[Death2Theft]

Listen you idiot, I've been in Reg Reimers car when it was in Vancouver. How many lsx's have placed higher than him since then? Take as many 2jz's competing as you want did any of them ever win? How about 12 hr races or 24 hr races? What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Here you are bringing up stuff that makes zero sense.
Dont ask a question you dont want answered. Simple as that.
Well I'll be damned if having driven a car before making comparisons makes me stupid. Hey maybe if you put on some lipstick Reg will let you touch his 4th place 2jz.
Again you clearly fail at reading this is the third time in the same thread you chose to overlook what is clearly stated. Pzero Nero's are probally sticker than what you drive around on.
Funny cause Reg Reimer ran the "one lap of america" in his a supra powered by... you guessed it... 2jz gte and came in 4th place. Yeah he was behind one Vette, but he was also in front of many more... and this was back in 2000... supra support stateside was still in it's infancy, he was and still is a considered a pioneer in the supra world.
http://www.monsterhorsepower.com/

Back to the subject at hand, I think you were about to tell us all about your "sporty" Scion?

I like how you tried to shift attention away from your own stupidity by bringing up a statement with was only used as an obvious satire in the first place.

The only reason your Scion even breaks the wheels lose going up hills in the rain is cause of the 15" garbage all season 75 series tires.

[younglude]

we are still waiting to hear about your kick ass scion

[vo_hantu]

Did you miss the period? 1000+ on pump 92 octane. Did that clarification help?

Driving the cramped2k the last thing I was looking at was the interior, I did really like the radio controls on the left. I guess there was time spent staring at the interior, as I was waiting for the revs to come up trying to make it up big hills.

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.

You must be really heavy or unable to properly drive. Even my slowass civic can make it up any hills just fine.

Cleary, if you think you need to rev to 7k to break traction (in an s2k for example) you clearly don't know how to drive. Stop arguing with hopes and dreams.

[Death2Theft]

If I was heavy there'd be more weight on the tires. Guess what! I can make it up hills just fine too if i'm not flooring it in 1st and second! Jesus Christ.
I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $. Now before any of you temple of Vtec fanboys start posting. Why dont you go do the same before posting?
Really? Tell me when accelerating from 1st gear in a straight line, at a normal start off idle how you plan on breaking traction before 7k with an s2k?

[Jsunu]

If I was heavy there'd be more weight on the tires. Guess what! I can make it up hills just fine too if i'm not flooring it in 1st and second! Jesus Christ.
I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $. Now before any of you temple of Vtec fanboys start posting. Why dont you go do the same before posting?
Really? Tell me when accelerating from 1st gear in a straight line, at a normal start off idle how you plan on breaking traction before 7k with an s2k?

Really, this should be a discussion on the DD ability of an s2k. Not how shitty s2k's are compared to vettes or how Vtec's are for retards who love redlining or the hill climbing capabilities of certain cars.

[younglude]

i can break traction below 7k


so your amazing scion can break traction with no problem?

[jasonturbo]

Listen you idiot, I've been in Reg Reimers car when it was in Vancouver.... Hey maybe if you put on some lipstick Reg will let you touch his 4th place 2jz.



So what you're saying is, Reg let you in his car because you were wearing lipstick?

Personally i'll take being able to do 70kmph in 6th gear, over having to kick in vtak to get out of your own way up a hill.


I guess there was time spent staring at the interior, as I was waiting for the revs to come up trying to make it up big hills.


Guess what! I can make it up hills just fine too if i'm not flooring it in 1st and second! Jesus Christ.

Sorry, did you say something about a hill?

[vo_hantu]

If I was heavy there'd be more weight on the tires. Guess what! I can make it up hills just fine too if i'm not flooring it in 1st and second! Jesus Christ.
I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $. Now before any of you temple of Vtec fanboys start posting. Why dont you go do the same before posting?
Really? Tell me when accelerating from 1st gear in a straight line, at a normal start off idle how you plan on breaking traction before 7k with an s2k?

LOL you were talking about wet conditions and now flipping it to dry?

So you also drove a 1000hp supra on pump gas?

honestly, i think the biggest honda fan boy in here is you...you seem to know a lot about them.

[younglude]

uhh death2theft, where can i find awesome scion like yours? sounds like a lot better than my current car

[Energy]

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.

S2000 can be in 4th or 5th(maybe that's pushing it) doing 60 in the city. You seem to think that the s2000 needs to be in vtec all the time. Most of us don't drive like that (except Larry Chu). One of the nice things about the S2000 is that its like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. You can cruise around below 6000rpms where it will make about the same power as your Scion and get pretty good gas mileage. If you want to have some fun go above 6k rpms and feel the rush with it still being legal. How much of the corvette's power can you actually use on the street? Its good to actually be able to open up the s2000 somewhat without being scared of legal consequences.

And what's all this talk about hills?!?!??

[Death2Theft]

I disagree it gets less gas mileage than a c5 vette and you've got no torque to boot. I think that may have to do with having the top down, however you'll be dealing with more noise on the highway than the corvette chugging along at 2krpm will. Of course the s2k will feel cramped to anyone over 150lbs where as the vette will have alot more room.
I guess it depends on what your idea of "fun" is being a wet city that rains most of the time, it's alot more fun to have torque down low than having to use vtec for passing or going up say the cut or mountain highway.
S2000 can be in 4th or 5th(maybe that's pushing it) doing 60 in the city. You seem to think that the s2000 needs to be in vtec all the time. Most of us don't drive like that (except Larry Chu). One of the nice things about the S2000 is that its like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. You can cruise around below 6000rpms where it will make about the same power as your Scion and get pretty good gas mileage. If you want to have some fun go above 6k rpms and feel the rush with it still being legal. How much of the corvette's power can you actually use on the street? Its good to actually be able to open up the s2000 somewhat without being scared of legal consequences.

And what's all this talk about hills?!?!??

[younglude]

have you driven the car?

[JDMCivic]

Most of us posting aren't fanboiz we r owners for years with ap1s and ap2s...besides breaking traction before 7k? I break traction at vtec...5800

Anyways it is a good DD as long as u don't have back problems
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[rakfint]

Woah, so it seems shit fights among retards is a universal trait of car forums?

Back on topic, I drive my s2k as a daily, in fact i've only had it about 2 weeks. If you often find yourself needing to carry people around to dinner, road trips etc, obviously a s2k isn't the best choice, but if you rarely carry people. i find the s2k is fine for daily use, even the trunk storage is enough for most uses.

The next question is, will it be your ONLY car, or do you have a second car with more space for weekends when you want to go away with friends or family.

[Roach]

A common trend I've noticed is a lot of S2000 owners have moved on from their vehicles yet they speak glowingly of the car and their desire to own another one again. This leads me to believe the reality of dailying a 2 seat roadster is not for the majority of people.

Levitron, since you mentioned you are willing to pay a little extra for the right car, it leads me to believe you have the funds to perhaps go for a more ideal situation:

- Buy an '02-'03 AP1 and save some cash vs the AP2 cars.
- Buy a reasonable winter vehicle like an older WRX, older 3 HB or whatever.

I think going from the amount of space and utility the MS3 provides to the S2000 would be a shock. It's the same reason I haven't made the jump.

Kev

[Levitron]

Woah, so it seems shit fights among retards is a universal trait of car forums?

Back on topic, I drive my s2k as a daily, in fact i've only had it about 2 weeks. If you often find yourself needing to carry people around to dinner, road trips etc, obviously a s2k isn't the best choice, but if you rarely carry people. i find the s2k is fine for daily use, even the trunk storage is enough for most uses.

The next question is, will it be your ONLY car, or do you have a second car with more space for weekends when you want to go away with friends or family.

It'll be my "only" car in the sense that it will be my main driver. Hence that is why I am asking about it being a DD. I would have access to larger cars in my family so that's not too big of an issue.

A common trend I've noticed is a lot of S2000 owners have moved on from their vehicles yet they speak glowingly of the car and their desire to own another one again. This leads me to believe the reality of dailying a 2 seat roadster is not for the majority of people.

Levitron, since you mentioned you are willing to pay a little extra for the right car, it leads me to believe you have the funds to perhaps go for a more ideal situation:

- Buy an '02-'03 AP1 and save some cash vs the AP2 cars.
- Buy a reasonable winter vehicle like an older WRX, older 3 HB or whatever.

I think going from the amount of space and utility the MS3 provides to the S2000 would be a shock. It's the same reason I haven't made the jump.

Kev

Yeah, honestly, I think going from the huge cargo area of the MS3 (plus that awesome glovebox) I kind of cringe at that thought. I believe I'll be aiming for an 03-04 AP1.

[younglude]

00-03 are ap1's
04-09 are ap2's

[Skyline350gt]

holyshit so I just scanned through this thread

and what I just took in is..

Scion TC is better.....up a hill
Vtak doesn't break traction till 7k
and corvettes are slower than boosted s2ks.

okay...

Scion TCs are garbage..
S2k is a TRUE sports car, but definetely cannot even compare to a vette.

[ddonovan]

Talk about stealing a thread ..., I feel for the op! All this crap an not much about the original question...,

http://sigcreator.andrewjnuttall.com/s2k/created/DDonovan.png?rand=139012376

[Levitron]

00-03 are ap1's
04-09 are ap2's

Ahh yes. My bad.

Talk about stealing a thread ..., I feel for the op! All this crap an not much about the original question...,

http://sigcreator.andrewjnuttall.com/s2k/created/DDonovan.png?rand=139012376

I don't mind. Got traffic on my thread :)

[Energy]

I disagree it gets less gas mileage than a c5 vette and you've got no torque to boot. I think that may have to do with having the top down, however you'll be dealing with more noise on the highway than the corvette chugging along at 2krpm will. Of course the s2k will feel cramped to anyone over 150lbs where as the vette will have alot more room.
I guess it depends on what your idea of "fun" is being a wet city that rains most of the time, it's alot more fun to have torque down low than having to use vtec for passing or going up say the cut or mountain highway.

Then that's your preference for low end torque. Some people like small, high revving engines. Again, all preference. About the s2k and torque - it has a useable amount of torque down low, more so in the ap2s. Sorry to get carried away OP but I hope this also helps you in your decision.

[flagella]

OP, go test drive both AP1 and AP2. Nothing can convince you more than that. Whether it can be DD'd is really subjective, and none of us will know whether s2k as a DD is suitable for you or not. The truth is, there are plenty of people who DD it. This thread is useless now.

[Death2Theft]

I have no problem with small high revving engines. On a weekend toy car.
Then that's your preference for low end torque. Some people like small, high revving engines. Again, all preference. About the s2k and torque - it has a useable amount of torque down low, more so in the ap2s. Sorry to get carried away OP but I hope this also helps you in your decision.

[younglude]

I have no problem with small high revving engines. On a weekend toy car.

like your scion?

[Energy]

I have no problem with small high revving engines. On a weekend toy car.

Do you believe that the s2000 doesn't have enough power for dd duties? Even below 6k rpm its more than enough for a dd.

What is your idea of a daily driver? A c5 corvette maybe? People are content to have scions as their dd and the s2000 has enough power even at 3-4k rpm to be a dd.

[Death2Theft]

Younglude/jasonturbo get a room, and after you guys are done blowing each other, go take a class on reading. Jason seeing your delsol explains everything, the s2k is simply your hero next step up car. Clearly you are a diehard honda fanboy. When push comes to shove will ride the 2jz cock when honda can't hold it's own.
The scion is not a high revving engine. Younglude any car for 500$ will be better than what you have.

Energy it really depends how you use it. If you lived in richmond where it's flat and the cops are out to get imports, you'd never speed so it'd be ideal.
For DD use I'd be looking at four doors that can pass/overtake without having to down shift and kick in the vtak! Also something that wouldn't bother me when doordinged or scratched.
Having built cars with balls that are perfectly capable of DD duties, I would not use them for that just to get door dinged by some soccer mom in an suv.

The s2k is a great summer car. The top down summer months are great in it. Not so great when your stuck in gridlock.
As a DD your going to spend at least 4-5 months of the year looking at a shitty rag top with a cramped interior. If you own a pet? Forget about it. For the cost of the hard top you could buy a winter beater with snowtires.

[younglude]

whoa dude, just whoa.


how do you know what i drive?

[Death2Theft]

I dont care what you drive. Unless it's an s2000.
You can continue to take pot shots at my DD, but if you had a pair you could man up and play with one of my weekend cars at mission for a $ race.
whoa dude, just whoa.


how do you know what i drive?

[frostedLS]

I DD'd my S2000 for 2 years from Coquitlam to West Van 5 days a week.

I went from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock every time ;)

[truong]

To solve the no trunk space in an s2000



I can fit into it, and its not that bad


http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1356/5174882/11966469/393436710.jpg

[younglude]

I dont care what you drive. Unless it's an s2000.
You can continue to take pot shots at my DD, but if you had a pair you could man up and play with one of my weekend cars at mission for a $ race.

what are these magical cars you drive on the weekends?

[Death2Theft]

Put up a wager starting at four digits to find out. PM for details.
what are these magical cars you drive on the weekends?

[younglude]

ohhh secrets. how much fun


what are we 6? why don't you just post up

[Death2Theft]

No. 6 would be getting into another derailing topic debate with you. Besides most 6 year olds like yourself, wouldn't be able to afford the wager so that weeds them out. Thanks for coming out tho.

[Si]

this whole corvette deal reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e7R3y-qwZ0

[rawr]

the s2k is one seat too many for me :alone:

[younglude]

haha- thanks for giving me a good laugh.

i guess my sub 500$ as you put it is no match for your awesome whips

[Energy]

Energy it really depends how you use it. If you lived in richmond where it's flat and the cops are out to get imports, you'd never speed so it'd be ideal.
For DD use I'd be looking at four doors that can pass/overtake without having to down shift and kick in the vtak! Also something that wouldn't bother me when doordinged or scratched.
Having built cars with balls that are perfectly capable of DD duties, I would not use them for that just to get door dinged by some soccer mom in an suv.

The s2k is a great summer car. The top down summer months are great in it. Not so great when your stuck in gridlock.
As a DD your going to spend at least 4-5 months of the year looking at a shitty rag top with a cramped interior. If you own a pet? Forget about it. For the cost of the hard top you could buy a winter beater with snowtires.

I live in richmond but drive to Vancouver everyday for school and am at burnaby often so I drive in a variety of areas. You said that I wouldn't speed in my car because of cops and yet you want a 4 door that can easily pass without downshifting? Seems contradictory.

I see your idea of a dd is something more practical (4 doors) with lots of torque down low? How about a diesel VW golf?

The point I'm trying to make is that the S2000 has more than enough power and is practical enough to dd while being a true sports car at the same time. Its not an "ideal dd" in the sense that its a two seater and has limited cargo space. In terms of power even if you never hit vtec (I actually tried this on my way home today haha) you won't notice it. In fact, when just cruising you'll rarely need to use vtec anyway.

Oh and the door dings suck, I have one, but it happens and fear of door dings won't stop me from enjoying my car.

So in summary, the s2000 is not a dd for you but others have dd'ed it and love the trade-off between practicality and it being a no compromises sports car? I hope that settles it and the op can just decide for himself whether he wants to join us or settle for something a bit less extreme :)

[jasonturbo]

Younglude/jasonturbo get a room, and after you guys are done blowing each other, go take a class on reading. Jason seeing your delsol explains everything, the s2k is simply your hero next step up car. Clearly you are a diehard honda fanboy. When push comes to shove will ride the 2jz cock when honda can't hold it's own.
The scion is not a high revving engine. Younglude any car for 500$ will be better than what you have.


If you ask me, I would say your new tactics for winning this arguement are pretty pathetic... it's obvious you are just trying to claw your way out of the "fail pit", ...there is a reason nobody is thanking your posts... it's cause your posts are retarded... why people aren't failing them is a mystery to me.

Please don't bash my reading, I think anyone following this thread can clearly see that we are on two very different scholastic levels. (You being the lesser of the two)

I'll keep this short and sweet so hopefully you will understand; Currently, I don't own a Del Sol, or anything else that has "Honda" on the registration. So I'm not really sure what you were getting at with the Del Sol/Fan-boy comments.

Regardless, why don't you take your shitty arguement and your mystery Scion, drive up a hill, and go fuck a goat.

[frostedLS]

I dont care what you drive. Unless it's an s2000.
You can continue to take pot shots at my DD, but if you had a pair you could man up and play with one of my weekend cars at mission for a $ race.

Quite confident words challenging a 500whp 3100 lb car no?

[frostedLS]

I would have more fun going up a hill on a 49cc Ruckus with my freshly conditioned sandy blonde hair blowing in the wind than I would going up a hill in a Scion.

[Energy]

Death2theft has his points and obviously an s2k isn't for him so we can all agree and end it at that and just let the op decide?

At least he isn't a pompous a-hole that jerks off to himself when he argues like some other guy who started another thread on here heh.

[jasonturbo]

I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $

You do realize your profile states that you own a 2004 XB right?

[Death2Theft]

I've had an s2k , have you? Right, it's so retarded that I point out things like having pzero neros. Too bad all your education hasn't taught you to read before you type. I speak from my experience. I see "education" has taught you to ride the dick of something you dont have woot 2jz for lyfe!. Where did you get your mail in diploma from?
Surely if you saw that my DD wasn't part of the arguement why did you chose to pursue it?

I hope for your sake that your driving something that makes more than 200ftlbs of torque to see what the difference is.

Drive off a cliff? Right.... you know what a shitty arguement is? It's when you've run out of ammo. Then again you never really had any.
If you ask me, I would say your new tactics for winning this arguement are pretty pathetic... it's obvious you are just trying to claw your way out of the "fail pit", ...there is a reason nobody is thanking your posts... it's cause your posts are retarded... why people aren't failing them is a mystery to me.

Please don't bash my reading, I think anyone following this thread can clearly see that we are on two very different scholastic levels. (You being the lesser of the two)

I'll keep this short and sweet so hopefully you will understand; Currently, I don't own a Del Sol, or anything else that has "Honda" on the registration. So I'm not really sure what you were getting at with the Del Sol/Fan-boy comments.

Regardless, why don't you take your shitty arguement and your mystery Scion, drive up a hill, and go fuck a goat.

[younglude]

whoa, really? thats cool. did you mod it?

[jasonturbo]

I've had an s2k , have you? Right it's so retarded that I point out things like having pzero neros.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/jasonturbo/IMG00194.jpg

Yes, I have owned an S2k before.

Just so you are aware, I DD a 2011 STI... pretty sure it has more than 200ftlbs of TQ.

[Death2Theft]

So why dont you tell everyone why you dont still have the s2k and why you chose something with more torque like the sti instead of trying to "flame" me without facts?

[Energy]

I'm guessing family.

[younglude]

hmmm.....

do you drive an fd?

[Death2Theft]

No freebies pay to find out or GTFO.
hmmm.....

do you drive an fd?

[younglude]

hahahah

what exactly is free?

[jasonturbo]

So why dont you tell everyone why you dont still have the s2k and why you chose something with more torque like the sti instead of trying to "flame" me without facts?

I also have a 2000 Integra Type R... it's my "downhill car"
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/jasonturbo/oemlip1.jpg

S2k was sold because I needed to free up capital, I would have preferred not to sell it but needed significant cash reserves for my company's operating expenses.

I'm not sure why you are talking about what is/isn't factual, coming form the guy who has the XB listed as his DD in his profile, yet says in this thread he has never driven an XB.

[jasonturbo]

Drive off a cliff? Right.... you know what a shitty arguement is? It's when you've run out of ammo. Then again you never really had any.

I love it when you Edit :D

You can clearly see that I don't tell you to "Drive off a cliff?" ... I said "Drive up a hill"

So which one of us has the reading comprehension issues?

Clearly you,

Reading>Death2Theft

[Death2Theft]

So why did you keep a integra over the s2k? Grats you get the general idea/intention. Having completely not even seen the type of tires I had is another matter entirely. Glad to see that you think a acura isn't a honda. Whats it say on the valve cover again?

Where did I say I've never driven an xb? Sorry must be my reading comprehension again.

[jasonturbo]

So why did you keep a integra over the s2k? Grats you get the general idea/intention. Having completely not even seen the type of tires I had is another matter entirely.

Bought/built the ITR in 2010.

Pzero Nero's... those could be on a Dodge Caravan or a Dodge Viper.. who cares about your tires.

Just admit defeat. You are like Hosni Mubarak... just can't let go.

[jasonturbo]

Where did I say I've never driven an xb? Sorry must be my reading comprehension again.

I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $.

You didn't say it... but you typed it.

[Death2Theft]

My mistake, I've driven all those mentioned setups boosted and in n/t form, EXCEPT for the xb which has traction issues in n/a form with pzero nero's. Which relates to the tires, since you thought I had oem all seasons or something stupid.

I can see your clearly butthurt.
The sedan STI with the s2k for summer would have been a better combo imo, too bad you can't do that due to payments.


So you bought/build an ITR instead of another s2k? Why? Price? I dont think it's that much different is it? Or was it the snapoversteer nature of the s2k mr.downhiller?

Bought/built the ITR in 2010.

Pzero Nero's... those could be on a Dodge Caravan or a Dodge Viper.. who cares about your tires.

Just admit defeat. You are like Hosni Mubarak... just can't let go.

[younglude]

you had a boosted s2k?

[Death2Theft]

Broken valve springs on a AP1's if you do the tear down yourself.
hahahah

what exactly is free?

[younglude]

you missed my question. i asked if you had a boosted s2k

[jasonturbo]

I can see your clearly butthurt.
The sedan STI with the s2k for summer would have been a better combo imo, too bad you can't do that due to payments.


I stated in this thread I was looking to buy an s2k.

I hope that wasn't a shot at my personal finances... lol

[Death2Theft]

Yes, and after two broken diffs I didn't see the point anymore nor for it's impracticality did I see the point of spending more money on a diff swap.
you missed my question. i asked if you had a boosted s2k

[younglude]

since death2theft is being all secretive about his fancy automobiles.


i will post what i am doing in my garage


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff499/jordans2000/Jan%2017/DSC_5224.jpg?t=1297399257



i dont see the need to hide what i have in my garage

[JDMCivic]

My mistake, I've driven all those mentioned setups boosted and in n/t form, EXCEPT for the xb which has traction issues in n/a form with pzero nero's. Which relates to the tires, since you thought I had oem all seasons or something stupid.

I can see your clearly butthurt.
The sedan STI with the s2k for summer would have been a better combo imo, too bad you can't do that due to payments.


So you bought/build an ITR instead of another s2k? Why? Price? I dont think it's that much different is it? Or was it the snapoversteer nature of the s2k mr.downhiller?

I agree s2k for summer and sti for winter is a good combo...ask me how i know

[vo_hantu]

My mistake, I've driven all those mentioned setups boosted and in n/t form, EXCEPT for the xb which has traction issues in n/a form with pzero nero's. Which relates to the tires, since you thought I had oem all seasons or something stupid.

I can see your clearly butthurt.
The sedan STI with the s2k for summer would have been a better combo imo, too bad you can't do that due to payments.


So you bought/build an ITR instead of another s2k? Why? Price? I dont think it's that much different is it? Or was it the snapoversteer nature of the s2k mr.downhiller?

So how did it feel to drive the 1000hp Supra on pump gas you mentioned?

[Death2Theft]

I said lets see a 2jz make 1000hp on pumpgas 92 octane no meth. Thanks for bringing more irrelevent crap into the thread.
So how did it feel to drive the 1000hp Supra on pump gas you mentioned?

[vo_hantu]

Nice setup Younglude...I think you'll have issues going uphill without flooring it in 1st/2nd gear and breaking traction under 7k. Better sell that for a scion, I hear it's a beast.

[vo_hantu]

I said lets see a 2jz make 1000hp on pumpgas 92 octane no meth. Thanks for bringing more irrelevent crap into the thread.

You're welcome. I'd like to thank you as well for entertaining us on RS. Why so scared to post your 'weekend cars?' Stop avoiding.

[Death2Theft]

Looks like you've turned a great handling sports car into a straight line car that wont be able to cut a decent 60 foot without breaking something. Lets hope when your diff breaks it's not on a highway run.
I can see why you'd be hesitant on the wager seeing as you have better places to spend your money.
since death2theft is being all secretive about his fancy automobiles.


i will post what i am doing in my garage


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff499/jordans2000/Jan%2017/DSC_5224.jpg?t=1297399257



i dont see the need to hide what i have in my garage

[Death2Theft]

Whats in it for me? Nothing aside from some scrub possibly vandalizing one of them. No thanks.
You're welcome. I'd like to thank you as well for entertaining us on RS. Why so scared to post your 'weekend cars?' Stop avoiding.

[rawr]

Looks like you've turned a great handling sports car into a straight line car that wont be able to cut a decent 60 foot without breaking something. Lets hope when your diff breaks it's not on a highway run.
I can see why you'd be hesitant on the wager seeing as you have better places to spend your money.

Now you're just assuming his car doesn't have the reliability... maybe it does?

[younglude]

haha- you are a funny guy. do you always talk out of your ass?

[Death2Theft]

Highly unlikely, the cost of fixing the problem is enough to buy another s2k. Unless your going with another route which isn't much cheaper but then you lose the amazing shifter the car is known for.
If he had spent the money on the problem he'd have no problem with my paltry sum of a wager.
Now you're just assuming his car doesn't have the reliability... maybe it does?

[JDMCivic]

Whats in it for me? Nothing aside from some scrub possibly vandalizing one of them. No thanks.

no one's telling u to give us the google map location man just type make and model...big whoop

[Zulu]

All I'm saying.... is if you're going to waste money making your slow honda a "fast" car, then you may as well spend half the amount you will on mods buying a car thats already where your modded honda is going to end up.

Now if all you want is a gutless 4 banger that revs real high and looks like a miata, s2k all the way more power to you.

[Death2Theft]

Your a pretty weak example of an lsx to talk shit, he'd prob still smoke u with a 2.0 60ft at mission. :P

[spoon.ek9]

oh man, epic ownage in this thread :lol

[flagella]

This thread has just gone retarded in every way. If you really don't have anything to contribute to OP, why keep posting shits? He didn't ask what you think of S2000. I don't even know what the problem is with this Zulu guy. If you do realize, people bought S2000 not because it's a fast car, but the way it drives.

[jpark]

All I'm saying.... is if you're going to waste money making your slow honda a "fast" car, then you may as well spend half the amount you will on mods buying a car thats already where your modded honda is going to end up.

Now if all you want is a gutless 4 banger that revs real high and looks like a miata, s2k all the way more power to you.

i will kindly ask you something..
why are you on revscene dude, if you havent noticed yet, the forum is mainly advanced towards the import scene rather than domestics.. its cool you drive a corvette and all but have some respect lol, your on a god damn import car forum, or just go to your corvetteforum.com where they all just like to gather and flex their e muscles gossiping how they beat a s2000 might actually be a better place for you since no import enthusiasts will be wondering around that territory.. get it?

[Zulu]

Your a pretty weak example of an lsx to talk shit, he'd prob still smoke u with a 2.0 60ft at mission. :P

:facepalm:

i will kindly ask you something..
why are you on revscene dude, if you havent noticed yet, the forum is mainly advanced towards the import scene rather than domestics.. its cool you drive a corvette and all but have some respect lol, your on a god damn import car forum, or just go to your corvetteforum.com where they all just like to gather and flex their e muscles gossiping how they beat a s2000 might actually be a better place for you since no import enthusiasts will be wondering around that territory.. get it?


learn to accept others you zealot. I'm not anti-import. I like imports. I'm pro correct-vehicle-for-the-job.

This thread has just gone retarded in every way. If you really don't have anything to contribute to OP, why keep posting shits? He didn't ask what you think of S2000. I don't even know what the problem is with this Zulu guy. If you do realize, people bought S2000 not because it's a fast car, but the way it drives.

Yeah, like a honda...


p.s. guess who spent less money (and doesn't look ridiculous) ;P

[Lightscribe]

^S2K looks better than the vette IMO.

[rawr]

^agreed, the s2k looks sex. i'd go for different rims tho

[Death2Theft]

With the hardtop from some angles it looks like a fruity bmw roadster :(

[flagella]

:facepalm:




learn to accept others you zealot. I'm not anti-import. I like imports. I'm pro correct-vehicle-for-the-job.



Yeah, like a honda...


p.s. guess who spent less money (and doesn't look ridiculous) ;P

did you include the pic of your interior just so we can all have a good look at how shitty it is?

[Zulu]

did you include the pic of your interior just so we can all have a good look at how shitty it is?

Funny because I was just thinking how much nicer it looks than that boxy plastic accord interior in the s2k.

[MindBomber]

For those of you who have forgotten or didn't notice in the first place, death2theft decided to go on a rant about his high roller car collection a month ago and repeatedly insinuated he has a garage that rivals SR Auto's. Just like in this thread, he went on a trip inviting people to mission to race him for four figure bets.

Personally, I'd like to see him stfu and take a picture of his garage, because at the moment he's just proving he has a two inch dick that he need to compensate for and a six year olds maturity. If death2theft was as successful as he claims, he'd be capable of presenting a logical argument like jasonturbo or younglude.


link to his prior bull shit.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=7251137&postcount=3088

[GabAlmighty]

I said lets see a 2jz make 1000hp on pumpgas 92 octane no meth. Thanks for bringing more irrelevent crap into the thread.

I think he's into the 900's and I think he's on pumpgas and I think he's not on meth
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=115735 (Don't know if you need a login or not)

[Death2Theft]

Listen Salley dont be putting words in my mouth. SR auto's cars are stockers with body kits and wraps so STFU. I'm not the one that took the thread off topic like these honda fanboys.
The only reason I make wagers is because people like to pick on my DD like that I shouldn't talk or have an opinion because of what my DD is. The first wager was to Marco911 since he likes to rant on about how wonderful his porsche is at everything but performance, of course he didn't have much to say when it was time to put his money in his mouth.
You can thank Jing for running the thread off course with his played out nissan. I've been the one trying to bring the thread back to s2k's, but you honduh fanboys just can't let it go.
For those of you who have forgotten or didn't notice in the first place, death2theft decided to go on a rant about his high roller car collection a month ago and repeatedly insinuated he has a garage that rivals SR Auto's. Just like in this thread, he went on a trip inviting people to mission to race him for four figure bets.

Personally, I'd like to see him stfu and take a picture of his garage, because at the moment he's just proving he has a two inch dick that he need to compensate for and a six year olds maturity. If death2theft was as successful as he claims, he'd be capable of presenting a logical argument like jasonturbo or younglude.


link to his prior bull shit.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=7251137&postcount=3088

[Death2Theft]

Supras on dyno's have been doing 700rwhp dyno runs on pumpgas 5+ years ago. Is that a tune they would drive on the street? Certainly not and they know it. Unfortunately thats not still not 1khp shoulda coulda woulda isn't.
I think he's into the 900's and I think he's on pumpgas and I think he's not on meth
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=115735 (Don't know if you need a login or not)

[younglude]

i am pretty sure if you stopped posting or at least posted some of your cars the thread wouldnt end up the way it is.

are you gonna post the FD, the supra? or the 3000gt? or maybe your truck? or is there something new?

[MindBomber]

Do you want to know the difference between you and Marco911, Death2Theft?

Marco has moments where he feels the need to prove his incredible wealth and success, each night he goes to sleep fantasizing about how many members on RS envy him and wish they could be successful too. Marco however, has the ability to spell simple words and incorporate grammar into his posts; a skill which clearly eludes you and is an absolutely essential prerequisite to great success. Furthermore, Marco is able to prove a point using words not childish wagers.

Death2Theft, each post you make proves you are nothing but trash scraped up from the throw backs of natural selection - a classical definition of internet troll. So please, do everyone who enjoys this site a favor, take a picture of your garage to prove you have these cars and prove us wrong. If you can't do that I'll take a $xxxx bet against you in my stock civic, with a fat guy in the passenger seat and my k-series block in the back seat to add weight, because I know you have nothing to back you up.
Listen Salley dont be putting words in my mouth. SR auto's cars are stockers with body kits and wraps so STFU. I'm not the one that took the thread off topic like these honda fanboys.
The only reason I make wagers is because people like to pick on my DD like that I shouldn't talk or have an opinion because of what my DD is. The first wager was to Marco911 since he likes to rant on about how wonderful his porsche is at everything but performance, of course he didn't have much to say when it was time to put his money in his mouth.
You can thank Jing for running the thread off course with his played out nissan. I've been the one trying to bring the thread back to s2k's, but you honduh fanboys just can't let it go.

[jasonturbo]

Death2Theft... http://www.facebook.com/gssspeedshop

Just for you, a 1200hp supra running pump gas, it's called E85 ;)

Since we know you have reading problems, I will point out the part where it says "1200HP STREET CAR"

[spoon.ek9]

all this talk about hills makes me laugh.

my D15B2 (1.5L 92hp non-VTEC) takes me up hills no problem and that's mostly in 4th gear at 2000rpm. make fun of my DD all you like, i fuckin' love it :D

20yr old technology that still gets me ~7L/100km in winter on snow tires 2" bigger than stock size.

[spyker]

Funny because I was just thinking how much nicer it looks than that boxy plastic accord interior in the s2k.

I would much rather have a car with a Accord interior,opposed to a Cavalier or Sunfire interior.

Don't get me wrong,I like the Corvette,it's just that I cannot see myself spending that much money and having a car that shares the same cheap plastic interior bits with GM's cheapest economy cars.

[Death2Theft]

Well shit since vancouver has so many e85 stations. You better go get yourself the 2jz dream.
Not exactly a street car if you drive it less than 10k miles a year.
Death2Theft... http://www.facebook.com/gssspeedshop

Just for you, a 1200hp supra running pump gas, it's called E85 ;)

Since we know you have reading problems, I will point out the part where it says "1200HP STREET CAR"

[Skyline350gt]

I would much rather have a car with a Accord interior,opposed to a Cavalier or Sunfire interior.

Don't get me wrong,I like the Corvette,it's just that I cannot see myself spending that much money and having a car that shares the same cheap plastic interior bits with GM's cheapest economy cars.

lol, I don't know where you got the idea a corvette is anymore expensive than an s2, they depreciate like crap. You can find a 03-05 vette for the same price as 03-07 s2 (depending on condition)

An s2000 was a pure joy to drive! But get in a vette you will quickly change your mind of which is the better car once your foots planted to the ground. And contrary to belief it's not just a straight line car.

[Death2Theft]

Unlike Marco the only thing I'm out to prove is the weakness of a platform when certain people think it's gods gift to the automotive world. Not my fault honda fanboyz getting butthurt.
Why you guys insist on going off topic is beyond me :whistle:
In that case than you just done got trolled son!
Do you want to know the difference between you and Marco911, Death2Theft?

Marco has moments where he feels the need to prove his incredible wealth and success, each night he goes to sleep fantasizing about how many members on RS envy him and wish they could be successful too. Marco however, has the ability to spell simple words and incorporate grammar into his posts; a skill which clearly eludes you and is an absolutely essential prerequisite to great success. Furthermore, Marco is able to prove a point using words not childish wagers.

Death2Theft, each post you make proves you are nothing but trash scraped up from the throw backs of natural selection - a classical definition of internet troll. So please, do everyone who enjoys this site a favor, take a picture of your garage to prove you have these cars and prove us wrong. If you can't do that I'll take a $xxxx bet against you in my stock civic, with a fat guy in the passenger seat and my k-series block in the back seat to add weight, because I know you have nothing to back you up.

[Death2Theft]

Well if your looking at the corvettes interior and not the HUD. Then... your probally looking at the wrong thing.
I would much rather have a car with a Accord interior,opposed to a Cavalier or Sunfire interior.

Don't get me wrong,I like the Corvette,it's just that I cannot see myself spending that much money and having a car that shares the same cheap plastic interior bits with GM's cheapest economy cars.

[Death2Theft]

Younglude responding to you would be akin to responding to a bum asking for a handout.

[Death2Theft]

Least to my knowledge they never made the s2k in auto, then it would be quite the girls car. With the way tech is going.... the s2k might be the last fun car from honda in a loooooong time :(
lol, I don't know where you got the idea a corvette is anymore expensive than an s2, they depreciate like crap. You can find a 03-05 vette for the same price as 03-07 s2 (depending on condition)

An s2000 was a pure joy to drive! But get in a vette you will quickly change your mind of which is the better car once your foots planted to the ground. And contrary to belief it's not just a straight line car.

[jasonturbo]

Death2Theft, you sir are out of conTROLL.

[spyker]

lol, I don't know where you got the idea a corvette is anymore expensive than an s2, they depreciate like crap. You can find a 03-05 vette for the same price as 03-07 s2 (depending on condition)

An s2000 was a pure joy to drive! But get in a vette you will quickly change your mind of which is the better car once your foots planted to the ground. And contrary to belief it's not just a straight line car.
The models of Corvette's I was looking at were C5 ZO6 & C6 ragtops.I only buy low mileage,accident free prestine cars.The ones I looked at that are in the model and condition I described were being sold for a pretty penny.

I don't buy a car based on raw power,I like the car to be balanced in all areas.The S2K fit the bill nicely for me.

[jpark]

after all this.. i bet the op of this thread is just going like ---> -___-

[Skyline350gt]

The models of Corvette's I was looking at were C5 ZO6 & C6 ragtops.I only buy low mileage,accident free prestine cars.The ones I looked at that are in the model and condition I described were being sold for a pretty penny.

I don't buy a car based on raw power,I like the car to be balanced in all areas.The S2K fit the bill nicely for me.

omg well if your comparing Z06's and C6 than this an s2000 is not even in the same league..not that the base corvette already didn't outclass the s2k.

50/50 weight dist. + raw power.
Just because the vette would be harder to drive ie. insane torque out of the apex, a good driver can still maneveur the car quite nicely.

don't tell me a corvette doesn't fit the bill.

and z06's interiors are NOT what you described, etc cavalier interiors etc.
No crazy gadgets but its still clean as fuck.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/10/18_vettez06garage_opt.jpg

[truong]

Offtopic
To Death2Theft

If you like to wager that much, Would you like to wager a race @ TBC indoor racing for a 5 figure digit? I will give you a 2 lap head start as well...I will handicap myself. I'll be blind folded and driving with one hand

Someone with the ability to control all those high horsepower cars can handle a under powered go kart no problem I pressume

[Nechako87]

Death,

Why don`t you just post some pictures of your cars with the plates blurred out? This question has been asked numerous times in the thread...back up your statements with some evidence?

[Skyline350gt]

Offtopic
To Death2Theft

If you like to wager that much, Would you like to wager a race @ TBC indoor racing for a 5 figure digit? I will give you a 2 lap head start as well.

Someone with the ability to control all those high horsepower cars can handle a under powered go kart no problem I pressume

the king of TBC calls on death lol

[Death2Theft]

Actually having torque out of the apex makes it easier to drive not harder....
Having the diff kick out everytime you let off the throttle mid turn in a s2k on the otherhand... not so much.
Of course the s2k balances this well by rarely having enough power to break the rear end loose so the solution is just to never let off.
omg well if your comparing Z06's and C6 than this an s2000 is not even in the same league..not that the base corvette already didn't outclass the s2k.

50/50 weight dist. + raw power.
Just because the vette would be harder to drive ie. insane torque out of the apex, a good driver can still maneveur the car quite nicely.

don't tell me a corvette doesn't fit the bill.

and z06's interiors are NOT what you described, etc cavalier interiors etc.
No crazy gadgets but its still clean as fuck.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/10/18_vettez06garage_opt.jpg

[spyker]

omg well if your comparing Z06's and C6 than this an s2000 is not even in the same league..not that the base corvette already didn't outclass the s2k.

50/50 weight dist. + raw power.
don't tell me a corvette doesn't fit the bill.

and z06's interiors are NOT what you described, etc cavalier interiors etc.
No crazy gadgets but its still clean as fuck.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/10/18_vettez06garage_opt.jpg
The interiors of the C5 ZO6 & Z6 are still made from the cheap plastic they use to make all the GM cars with,the fit & finish and feel of the dash felt cheap with uneven gaps.

Regardless of what the perfromance numbers are on the Corvette,I just did not like the way they felt when I drove them.Sure the performance aspects fit the bill more than enough,but I just like the way the S2K felt when I drove it,more so than the Corvette.

[spoon.ek9]

Offtopic
To Death2Theft

If you like to wager that much, Would you like to wager a race @ TBC indoor racing for a 5 figure digit? I will give you a 2 lap head start as well.

Someone with the ability to control all those high horsepower cars can handle a under powered go kart no problem I pressume

i would pay money to watch this race :D

[vo_hantu]

i am pretty sure if you stopped posting or at least posted some of your cars the thread wouldnt end up the way it is.

are you gonna post the FD, the supra? or the 3000gt? or maybe your truck? or is there something new?

no response to this eh?

Hi death2theft ... I know who you are :D

[Death2Theft]

Not intrested. The two times i've been to TBC we got to deal with either my cart or someone elses cart that was f'd up. Shifter carts on the other hand sound more fun.
I wont accept any "call outs" as I have nothing to defend.
The only time I offer wagers is to have people "put up or shut up"
Sorry honda fanboyz there is no redemption for you. Especially not by riding someone elses coat tails. Better pound those thank and fail buttons for all they are worth.

No more responses that arn't on topic.
Offtopic
To Death2Theft

If you like to wager that much, Would you like to wager a race @ TBC indoor racing for a 5 figure digit? I will give you a 2 lap head start as well.

Someone with the ability to control all those high horsepower cars can handle a under powered go kart no problem I pressume

[truong]

Not intrested. The two times i've been to TBC we got to deal with either my cart or someone elses cart that was f'd up. Shifter carts on the other hand sound more fun.
I wont accept any "call outs" as I have nothing to defend.
The only time I offer wagers is to have people "put up or shut up"
Sorry honda fanboyz there is no redemption for you. Especially not by riding someone elses coat tails. Better pound those thank and fail buttons for all they are worth.

No more responses that arn't on topic.

So you expect someone to take up your challenge but when one is offered to you, you refuse it ? Interesting way your mother raised you or did you learn that on your own?

As for the shifter karts, I'll take you on in one of those as well. But I will need both hands. We can head down to f440 and you can show me one of your cars. Maybe you can teach me a thing or two about high horse power. Only problem is, It kinda cold right now

But on a serious note, I'm am a Honda fan boy. I can really care less about what your opinion is(lets be honest, your not anyone special).
Why I would offer such a challenge is because I've never raced anyone that drives high horsepower cars on a daily bases. From reading about your extensive knowledge on the s2000 I would like see how your driving style is etc.

[Death2Theft]

Substitute tits with s2000
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/28/matrixposttitsorgtfo.jpg
Since you still dont get the message.
So you expect someone to take up your challenge but when one is offered to you, you refuse it ? Interesting way your mother raised you or did you learn that on your own?

As for the shifter karts, I'll take you on in one of those as well. But I will need both hands. We can head down to f440 and you can show me one of your cars. Maybe you can teach me a thing or two about high horse power.

[freakshow]

So just you're clear, no one is accepting your offer, not because they believe you, but because we're all too busy laughing at you.

[Zulu]

Shame poor OP...


Here we go this'll make it all better
http://www.google.com/images?q=Katarina+Olendzskaia

[Nechako87]

hahahahahah classic revscene trolling, how i missed this...

all things in check:
-drives a shitty DD car, but claims to have driven 1000hp monsters and the likes
-calls out members to race, with copious amounts of money on the line
-ignores any questions that proves his claims, etc
-disregards any challenges, claims its not worth his time, etc

:nicethread:

[flagella]

^Pretty much summed it up.

[Energy]

Why is this still going? Death2theft just stop. You've made your point so why bother continuing?

Or you could keep going and just entertain us all.

[08civicsi_coupe]

i just read this thread so far all i took from this is death talks/loves dick and his vette which ar nice cars on the outside like most chevs and shit on the inside. anyway anytime you wanna prove yourself ill take any wager on a road course ill drive my supercharged s2k and you can take your vette and really demo how it is a well rounded car :) zulu you can get in on this 2 i love 2 smash you both in my gay miata look a like! but you scion might handle better than that tank so your call haha

[jing]

Listen Salley dont be putting words in my mouth. SR auto's cars are stockers with body kits and wraps so STFU. I'm not the one that took the thread off topic like these honda fanboys.
The only reason I make wagers is because people like to pick on my DD like that I shouldn't talk or have an opinion because of what my DD is. The first wager was to Marco911 since he likes to rant on about how wonderful his porsche is at everything but performance, of course he didn't have much to say when it was time to put his money in his mouth.
You can thank Jing for running the thread off course with his played out nissan. I've been the one trying to bring the thread back to s2k's, but you honduh fanboys just can't let it go.

http://www.allgraphics123.com/ag/01/13042/13042.jpg

[jasonturbo]

Since you still dont get the message.

What message? That you're a fucking idiot?

We get it.

[Dtox89]

Not intrested. The two times i've been to TBC we got to deal with either my cart or someone elses cart that was f'd up. Shifter carts on the other hand sound more fun.
I wont accept any "call outs" as I have nothing to defend.
The only time I offer wagers is to have people "put up or shut up"
Sorry honda fanboyz there is no redemption for you. Especially not by riding someone elses coat tails. Better pound those thank and fail buttons for all they are worth.

No more responses that arn't on topic.

Bad Drivers blame the "cars or Karts"

And TBC is great only been 2 or 3 times but good times dont be hating

[Berzerker]

Truong I'll race you but you have to ballast the car so you weigh the same as me :)

Berz out.

[truong]

Truong I'll race you but you have to ballast the car so you weigh the same as me :)

Berz out.

I have a 60lb weight vest i've been using to practice!
Your on buddy!!:fullofwin:

[freakshow]

I'll race both of you. But to be fair, your karts don't get wheels...

[spoon.ek9]

i'll take truong up on that offer. 2 lap head start.................. in a 2 lap race :lol

[Levitron]

I'll race you all in your go karts in my new S2K!!!

[younglude]

you bought one?

[Zulu]

anyway anytime you wanna prove yourself ill take any wager on a road course ill drive my supercharged s2k and you can take your vette and really demo how it is a well rounded car :) zulu you can get in on this 2 i love 2 smash you both in my gay miata look a like! but you scion might handle better than that tank so your call haha


What with your 12 second 1/4 ETs? Sorry did that stock... Also, love the tank comments. I mean the vehicle is NOTORIOUS for dominating track events and stomps all over GT and Lemans... I'm just running "little" 295 nittos but hey...

[younglude]

oh snap,

you are running bilsteins??

[Zulu]

oh snap,

you are running bilsteins??


Recently did a suspension/wheels/tires update, c6 bits.

[Levitron]

you bought one?

Not yet :fullofwin: