[[RSX-S]]

So, I'm anticipating the arrival of my restricted firearm license. I am planning to use my firearms for target practice only. What should my first firearm ideally be?

My plan is to get a .22 rifle, or something cheap I can shoot all day long and learn about shooting. Later on, I when I learn enough and have enough money, I want to get a real bolt action rifle, like the Remington 700.

I still haven't given up on the idea of WWII firearms, but that will have to wait. I need a core rifle that is affordable enough for start with, so I can shoot for more than 5 mins at the range.

My budget is flexible, but I rather stay under $400 or so. If I spend anymore, I might as well go right to a bolt action with a bigger caliper.

Right now, I'm considering:

1. Ruger 10/22 (variations of)
2. Remington 597
3. SKS
4. CZ 858

Your thoughts? If you have other suggestions I'm open to them.

[Jayhall]

"on the third day, god invented the Remington 597 so that man could fight the dinosaurs"

[CRS]

SKS.

Have to go with the classics.

[rJZx]

gravity gun
/thread.

[lungfish23]

Ruger 10/22 would be my pick. This has so many mod options that i think you would not get tired of. I own 2 myself and built them up in different ways and continue to have fun with them.

The gun itself is reliable, cheap and fun to shoot.
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[Vansterdam]

M1 garand
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[1exotic]

ANTHONY ESPINOSA will make a great target.

jus sayin'

[skyxx]

A Banana airbrushed like a glock.

[maxx]

SKS. Dirt cheap gun, dirt cheap ammo. Rugged and reliable. You can drop-kick it, run it over with your car and it'll still work. Looks good too.

[Senna4ever]

Ulic is the man to talk to.

[flagella]

SKS

/thread

[alpinestars]

SKS if you dont have the money
M1 garand for the novelty ping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jobfbmwVu9o&feature=related

[StealthFighter]

NWS language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2ucmARq-k

[insertname]

SKS was my first rifle... just get a Russian one and not one of those POS Chinese crap

[Manic!]

Non compound Bow and arrow, or maybe a laser tag gun.

[Vansterdam]

Ulic is the man to talk to.

"waiting for ulics response"

lol

[ninjatune]

get the ruger for your first firearm... then move up from there to more powerfull stuff. the .22 is best for target shooting (and cheapest)

[CRS]

Firing a .22 is like firing an air rifle. Seriously.

[jasonturbo]

I'm sorry buy I couldn't vote,

There was just nothing "gangster" enough on that list for my taste.

Option #5 Should be: "Gloc 45 with serial numbers shaved off"

[Supafly]

i'd say pick up a russian SKS, and when it comes time to, unload it and pick up something a bit more fun with a larger calibre.

[Lomac]

Andrew? Lol.

SKS would be my pick though. Good first gun.
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[Hondaracer]

SKS is cheap as hell for ammo and they are actually accurate enough to use for a little deer gun
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[roastpuff]

http://www.leverarms.com/surplus-firearms/simonov-sks-rifle-investor-packs.html

SKS RS group buy?:troll:

[zulutango]

S&W Model 29, 44 mag with 6 inch barrel. That which does not kill us, makes us stronger. Like shooting a 12 ga Brushmaster, but with no stock. Survive this puppy and you are a real man. :devil:

[ForbiddenX]

http://www.leverarms.com/surplus-firearms/simonov-sks-rifle-investor-packs.html

SKS RS group buy?:troll:

I'll be in for one..

On a side note, how much is it to get a license?

[Mr.Money]

i say get the 44.cal 6 shooter with Black Rubber grip & a few speed reloader's.

[Hondaracer]

I'll be in for one..

On a side note, how much is it to get a license?

It's more of a time thing than a money thing, especially for restricted
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[2damaxmr2]

GSG 1911. https://www.dlaskarms.com/index.php
Best part about this gun is most of the parts are interchangeable with the regular 1911. If you have more questions you can join CGN for more info.

[cococly]

If we were in the states: AK-105 [NO MORE OLD SCHOOL AK-47]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPGraflkWY

[Phil@rise]

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/M107.html

no one is gonna dare accuse you of over compensating for anything

[CanadaGoose]

;7298241']So, I'm anticipating the arrival of my restricted firearm license. I am planning to use my firearms for target practice only. What should my first firearm ideally be?

My plan is to get a .22 rifle, or something cheap I can shoot all day long and learn about shooting. Later on, I when I learn enough and have enough money, I want to get a real bolt action rifle, like the Remington 700.

I still haven't given up on the idea of WWII firearms, but that will have to wait. I need a core rifle that is affordable enough for start with, so I can shoot for more than 5 mins at the range.

My budget is flexible, but I rather stay under $400 or so. If I spend anymore, I might as well go right to a bolt action with a bigger caliper.

Right now, I'm considering:

1. Ruger 10/22 (variations of)
2. Remington 597
3. SKS
4. CZ 858

Your thoughts? If you have other suggestions I'm open to them.


For your very first gun, I voted 10/22!

Remington 597 - Not worth mentioning when the 10/22 is on the table LOL :D but this is just my opinion.

SKS - A Soviet Russian made SKS is awesome for a first carbine, but not for a first gun imo. Good luck finding a place in the city to shoot it. Surplus 7.62 ammo is steel core, and it fucks up the backstops at indoor ranges so they won't allow it. Awesome camping/backwoods/doomsday gun though :D. Everyone should own an SKS.

CZ 858 - Eats the same ammo as the SKS; same indoor range issue. There is softnose 7.62 you can buy (if you can find it) and shoot at the range, but it's pricey compared to surplus crate ammo. Not worth it for target shooting, in my opinion.

Everything is going to look really appealing to a first time buyer, and people are going to tell you to buy this or that, but try to focus on getting a .22 rifle, and then a .22 handgun as firsts. I think you're already on the right track though. .22LR is 3 cents a round to shoot, compared to, for example, 9mm at 30 cents a round, or .308 (most common Remington 700 caliber, so even though the rifle isn't that much more expensive then some .22's, the ammo definetely will be) at 70 cents per shot. If you're going to the range regularly and cycling through 200-250 rounds per session it will add up - last thing you want when you're starting out as a shooter is for ammo cost to turn you off.



btw If you're just looking for the most reasonably inexpensive .22 rifle to start off, look into the Mossberg 702 as well! It'll shoot the same groups as a stock 10/22, and it's a lot cheaper. I have one as my gopher gun. They actually used to sell for even less a few years ago when they weren't as popular yet and people were reluctant to adopt them, but even now they're definitely still a good buy

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrCPTYK0f-IS10W4KCEGT6dnRPn28zN5UW62nIAOPSiuiFj7aRhw

If your budget is a bit flexible, and you like the look and function of AR-15's but want to shoot .22, the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is king shit of .22's right now

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVZsAObYfAf8mXgcHTlVaofnt0hv9To zpnzlisnSQa2wvJTqlc

[Vansterdam]

http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/golden-ak-47.jpg

one day...

[spyker]

ANTHONY ESPINOSA will make a great target.

jus sayin'

Too easy,the target is too big and fat.

[Supafly]

For your very first gun, I voted 10/22!
[B]


If your budget is a bit flexible, and you like the look and function of AR-15's but want to shoot .22, the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is king shit of .22's right now

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVZsAObYfAf8mXgcHTlVaofnt0hv9To zpnzlisnSQa2wvJTqlc

Thats nice .22lr ....looks mean, and cheap to play with...lol. Something about being restricted to a 10rnd mag?? can't remember....also cannot justify price.:fullofwin:

[Sp0r3]

If you are on a budget, you are almost limited to .22 or 7.62x39. .22 is a great caliber to start off with and learn the proper techniques to target shooting. However, you won't get as much satisfaction as the recoil of those things is not noticeable.

When I started a year ago, I asked the same question myself. I was thinking of a 10/22, SKS, or CZ858. I ended up with the SKS. Why? Because Lever had a deal with a SKS and a crate of surplus combo pack for cheap (by the way, I don't recommend Lever Arms unless they are way cheaper than others, their service is crap). The thing with SKS is that the accuracy varies from rifle to rifle. However, they require the least amount of care needed (except for the cleaning after shooting corrosive rounds). You can count on the reliability of the SKS.

If you want the AR look but can't afford the heavy price tag, go look at the Chinese Norinco CQ-A. They aren't the most refined AR system out there, but they are half the price of most AR platforms. CQ-A is compatible with almost all commercial spec'd AR-15 parts. Not to mention, you can throw a .22 conversion kit in and shoot it without worrying about the wallet.

If you really want more insight as to the right firearm for you, just check out Canadian Gun Nutz forum.

[[RSX-S]]

Thanks to everyone that voted and gave detail advice, as well as those who gave useless, yet, entertaining suggestions. :p

Right now, I'm leaning towards SKS because I have a friend who's selling his for a really good price. The 10/22 would've been my first choice otherwise.

[[RSX-S]]

Curiously enough, a lot people voted for Remington 597 but no one explained why...

[The_AK]

have you considered one of these?

http://ui32.gamespot.com/895/gun20for20suicide1_2.jpg

on a serious note, where does one go to purchase a firearm? (after all tests have been completed and gov't approves)

in b4 guy in white van/shady looking alley/surrey

[soowu]

get a ray gun and upgrade it for $5000.

[Lomac]

on a serious note, where does one go to purchase a firearm? (after all tests have been completed and gov't approves)

in b4 guy in white van/shady looking alley/surrey

http://ca.wholesalesports.com/storefront/

There's one in Langley and they have a pretty impressive rifle selection, along with a decent handgun case.

[CanadaGoose]

;7300971']
Right now, I'm leaning towards SKS because I have a friend who's selling his for a really good price. The 10/22 would've been my first choice otherwise.

Make sure the one you're looking at has a chrome lined barrel - Russian/Soviet made are best - they're extremely rugged. Good luck!

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3453/doomsdayu.jpg
Russian Tula Arsenal SKS (blade bayonet removed)

[BinsentoW]

I made a mistake getting a gun that I really wanted for the first gun. That 9mm ammo costs so much. Im looking to get a .22 handgun so I can shoot more.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

It really depends what you're looking for dude.

if you wanna get really good at target shooting and get all technical about it

yeah probably start with a .22. bullets are cheap and they're great for practice.

if you just wanna shoot something you like and have fun at the range once in a while, just buy whatever the hell you want lol.

just remember, bullets are fuckin expensive. most people don't realise this.

I only own an m4a3, but i only bought it because it was the most familiar weapon to me. The military taught me everything i need to know about it, so i felt most comfortable with it. like i could use it straight outta the box and all that stuff.

bullets are fuckin expensive lol.

anyway.

you should also look into handguns, i mean they're more practical for "home defense"
and i duno man, i kinda regret getting an m4. i always borrow my friends handgun at the range. they're just so much more fun, pop pop pop pop pop.

rifles have stupid limited capacity magazines, aint like the army where u get 30 round mags, blast away at your targets.

one thing for sure though, if you DO get a handgun, go to a range where u can rent guns (or try your friends out) and try as many different handgun makes as you can.

the grip angle on every company's handguns are slightly different. some people prefer glocks, some people prefer sigs, S&W, springfield etc. whatever.

the comfort of the grip and angle of the grip are very important and will i think, dictate how well u shoot.

you just gotta be prepared financially, firearms are an expensive hobby. I had to drive out to fuckin poco to shoot my rifle and their range is only 200yards or something lame like that.

shotguns are fun too, dont have too much experience with those.
revolvers, fun too, rounds are expensive especially if you have a larger magnum. i always wanted a .357 of some sort.

if you do get a .22 pistol, i'd suggest a ruger. i always wanted one, but never got around to getting one. i mean, they're pretty nice, and when suppressed they make less sound than me dropping coins on the ground. and it isnt that hard to make a suppressor haha, woops, i didn't say anything :p

9mm ammo is probably the cheapest round out there other than .22's.

if i were to buy a semi automatic pistol i'd get a pistol that shot .40S&W for overall price, and practicality.

ummm i duno anything about AK variants or the sks, so i cant really comment. i ALMOST picked up an SKS way back though, but i thought to myself if i spent money on another firearm i'd get something i really wanted. like a pistol.

in the end, just buy what you want as long as you can support it financially. lol. hoped that helped.

[alpinestars]

and it isnt that hard to make a suppressor haha, woops, i didn't say anything :p

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2006/07/26/bc-Graham.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2006/11/15/20061115bc-graham1.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy_ZCBlLXUFLTMpV-hcafHwDQgdWoLWg3_L9_eAZqLqqS4DweM&t=1

[AhXian]

i got my license about half an year ago, never had the time to go shopping yet.
but i heard u need something like a transport permit to transport the firearm around? from shop to home to shooting range etc?

[BrRsn]

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/sniper/sn06/ai-awp762.jpg

109 dmg body shots,
~90 dmg leg shots
445dmg headshot

It's $4750 though.

[[RSX-S]]

CanadaGoose: Yea, it's chrome lined, but I haven't asked if it's Russian or not. It's so cheap, I'm practically get it for free.

Ulic: Thanks! I'm not really into handguns right now, but I've only shot a few. I like the Colt 1911.

[CP.AR]

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/sniper/sn06/ai-awp762.jpg

109 dmg body shots,
~90 dmg leg shots
445dmg headshot

It's $4750 though.

and it's not allowed everywhere too. you can pick it, but then you would have to put it away right away

[Nightwalker]

Plus everyone bitches, and half of them say you're cheating.

[Sp0r3]

;7302300']CanadaGoose: Yea, it's chrome lined, but I haven't asked if it's Russian or not. It's so cheap, I'm practically get it for free.

Ulic: Thanks! I'm not really into handguns right now, but I've only shot a few. I like the Colt 1911.

You can check if the SKS is made in Russia by looking at the receiver cover. If it has an arrow inside a star or an arrow inside a triangle inside a circle, then you have a Russian made rifle. Also, look on the serial number, Russians one come with 2 Russian characters beside the numeric digits. SKS's are great rifles, except they aren't that accurate. And most SKS are frankenpinned.

[lungfish23]

@canadagoose

Know where I can get the s&w m&p 15-22? I've née eyeing that gun for a while now.
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[//RacingSpirit>>]

@canadagoose

Know where I can get the s&w m&p 15-22? I've née eyeing that gun for a while now.
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$550 @ Reliable Gun on Fraser and 17th Ave

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AkQ2slr4thwOcExCX1ZOX2tMdno2MUVxSkp0eWdPQ Wc&gid=3

call them for avail?

[//RacingSpirit>>]

ruger sr22 should be a nice ar15 styled .22lr rifle to start with...

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2009/09/ruger-reveals-new-sr-22-rimfire-ar/

[StaxBundlez]

get this.

err

if you could afford it.. or if it was legal.. you could get a navy 20mm Phalanx cannon. Fires 4,000 + rounds a minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prNhzbqlZ4Q&feature=related


capable of wiping out any indigenous life forms..

you just need a place to mount it now.

[StaxBundlez]

OR

you could get this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_dlAmBkr10&feature=related


now no Aliens or Predators will fuck with you.

[CRX SiR]

Since this is a gun thread, Maybe I can get some suggestions too on a rifle. Looking at getting a Bolt action rifle, and have been leaning heavy on a Rem 700p LTR from a TWS kit (Found one someone is selling online without the scope and hard case for $950). Im having a hard time finding out if this a good deal for this gun, or if I should look at something else. My budget is about $1000 ( I already have a scope), and would love the XCR tactical, but its about $500 over my budget new, and finding a used one is not working well for me. Thoughts, suggestions and such?

Edit: Looking at 308, 7mm or 300 Ultra mag

[baggdis300]

if your getting your restricted why the heck aren't you buying handguns?

and on that note, are you on canadiangunnutz.com ?

there are ALOT of good sponsors on that site with awesome prices/inventory

[baggdis300]

It's more of a time thing than a money thing, especially for restricted
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its the same shit really, atleast with silvercore's course you take BOTH restricted and non in either 2 days, or 3 evenings i was only there about 8 hrs and passed with 98% on both res and non res

it costs 220 for the course, than another 80$ for when you send in your application..

you have to get two references that are willing to be interviewed


Thats nice .22lr ....looks mean, and cheap to play with...lol. Something about being restricted to a 10rnd mag?? can't remember....also cannot justify price.:fullofwin:


NOPEEE, its rim fire, rifles that are semi auto + centerfire are limited to 5, handguns are limited to 10 round mags

while rim fire rifles can have as many round mag as you can find.

[M U G A T U]

I suggest that you start with a nice 1911, maybe a Kimber. I'd start with that and get really proficient and then probably start customizing the handgun. A trigger job, upgrade the sights, springs and etc.

Handguns are way cheaper back in North America than here in Asia.

[Ch28]

ruger super redhawk alaskan

[El Bastardo]

I suggest getting a Tokarev Tula 33.

http://www.leverarms.com/surplus-firearms/russian-tokarev-tt-33-648.html


They're on sale for $200 and are the ideal first choice for the following reasons -

They're tough and idiot proof. They're like an 95 Sunfire. If you drive an 3-series as your first car you won't appreciate driving an S-Class later on. Buy the beater now and upgrade later.
If you start out with the Sunfire its cheap, easy to repair, durable, and you don't worry about every little scuff and scratch on it. Same goes for the Tokarev

They've got tons of spare parts floating out there. Just like every junkyard has dozens of scrapped Cavaliers and Sunfires, there are loads of cold war-era parts for this gun. Knockoffs were made by the Yugoslavians, Romanians, and Chinese and all of the parts are interchangable.

They've got a fucking kick to them. They use 7.62x25 ammo which can punch thru a class 2 bullet "resistant" vest. Your average 1911 clone won't do that.

They've got a little gun nerd credibility. Get a Glock if you want but put the TT in your collection and people will know you're a pretty serious collector. There are prettier girls to take to the prom but the TT-33 is a ride or die bitch. Its no frail princess.



This is the pistol equivalent of an AK-47. Its cheap, its got loads of ammo available for dirt cheap prices (non corrosive full metal jackets run for $10 for box of 40 IIRC) and is almost impossible to break. You can drag it thru the mud and sand and pop it in the dishwasher when you're all done, then pull it out and pop off a couple of rounds. (Please don't ever do this)
Its got about the same amount of moving parts as a Kinder surprise toy and about as easy to put together.

[shantz]

Desert Eagle - bad ass

[CorneringArtist]

I suggest getting a Tokarev Tula 33.

http://www.leverarms.com/surplus-firearms/russian-tokarev-tt-33-648.html


They're on sale for $200 and are the ideal first choice for the following reasons -

They're tough and idiot proof. They're like an 95 Sunfire. If you drive an 3-series as your first car you won't appreciate driving an S-Class later on. Buy the beater now and upgrade later.
If you start out with the Sunfire its cheap, easy to repair, durable, and you don't worry about every little scuff and scratch on it. Same goes for the Tokarev

They've got tons of spare parts floating out there. Just like every junkyard has dozens of scrapped Cavaliers and Sunfires, there are loads of cold war-era parts for this gun. Knockoffs were made by the Yugoslavians, Romanians, and Chinese and all of the parts are interchangable.

They've got a fucking kick to them. They use 7.62x25 ammo which can punch thru a class 2 bullet "resistant" vest. Your average 1911 clone won't do that.

They've got a little gun nerd credibility. Get a Glock if you want but put the TT in your collection and people will know you're a pretty serious collector. There are prettier girls to take to the prom but the TT-33 is a ride or die bitch. Its no frail princess.



This is the pistol equivalent of an AK-47. Its cheap, its got loads of ammo available for dirt cheap prices (non corrosive full metal jackets run for $10 for box of 40 IIRC) and is almost impossible to break. You can drag it thru the mud and sand and pop it in the dishwasher when you're all done, then pull it out and pop off a couple of rounds. (Please don't ever do this)
Its got about the same amount of moving parts as a Kinder surprise toy and about as easy to put together.

Holy shit, the way you described the TT-33 makes me seriously want to consider getting one. If I was going to get a firearms license, I was just gonna get some 9mm or a .45, but the TT-33 sounds like it's easy to maintain and cheap to own.

[2damaxmr2]

TT-33 ftl.

[StaxBundlez]

whatever you get.. make sure to keep a shotgun around...


http://benblogged.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/zombie.jpg


it's not funny!!



it could happen...

[baggdis300]

haha, im probably going to pick up a TT33 from lever arms soon...

and possibly a pump shotty :D

[Sp0r3]

If the same firearm can be purchased from local stores other than Lever Arms, I would go elsewhere. Lever Arms ain't the most customer friendly store around town.

[CanadaGoose]

^ I've never had a problem there. I always found them friendly and very helpful

[murd0c]

I'm not big into guns but about 5yrs ago my buddy brought one of these bad boys camping. Man it was kick ass to shoot :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNTzzrappSo

[baggdis300]

If the same firearm can be purchased from local stores other than Lever Arms, I would go elsewhere. Lever Arms ain't the most customer friendly store around town.

they are the only local store that i know of that carries tt-33's in stock with ammo also in stock.

[winson604]

Sorry to thread jack but I've always been interested in getting a firearms licence. To my understanding you gotta take the course, pass the test, then apply and get approved by the government. Any recommendations on where to take the course/test in Vancouver area?

[baggdis300]

silvercore.ca

hands down best place to go.

try to do the 3 night course

i was only there for about 5 hrs of instruction(well, that as all he "taught" us) then 2.5 hrs for the review/testing i scored 100%/96% so its pretty god damn easy.

220$ after taxes.

[baggdis300]

If the same firearm can be purchased from local stores other than Lever Arms, I would go elsewhere. Lever Arms ain't the most customer friendly store around town.

yeah, they weren't too friendly at first. once i said ill buy it, and pulled out my id's they answered my questions..

and wow, the bc CFO is quick, within 2 hrs they called me asking me to fax them my club membership so they can approve my ATT and the transfer haha

[Gh0stRider]

silvercore.ca

hands down best place to go.

try to do the 3 night course

i was only there for about 5 hrs of instruction(well, that as all he "taught" us) then 2.5 hrs for the review/testing i scored 100%/96% so its pretty god damn easy.

220$ after taxes.

nice...looking on going there in april

[El Bastardo]

and wow, the bc CFO is quick, within 2 hrs they called me asking me to fax them my club membership so they can approve my ATT and the transfer haha


Which club do you belong to? Most club dues I find in the lower mainland are around $100+ a year but my buddy in Alberta only pays $35 a year.

[baggdis300]

silvercore (http://silvercore.ca)

its 30$/year but since i took my course there its only 15$

but they do not own a range.

[CanadaGoose]

Which club do you belong to? Most club dues I find in the lower mainland are around $100+ a year but my buddy in Alberta only pays $35 a year.

There are probably "associate memberships" being offered, but not openly advertised and you have to ask for them.

I pay $50/yr right now for a range in Alberta, my full membership was $575/yr...the $50 associate membership fulfills the communist russia requirement of being a member of a range :D - it gives no range privileges and only serves to acknowledge the fact you're a member in good standing.

[sky52]

build an AR, most versatile plateform ever. I have 4 of them, 1 in .22 1 in 5.56, 1 in 7.62x39 and 1 in 9mm. If u r on a budget...just get 1 lower and different cal Upper.

Also,,Poco membership is the cheapest so far, once you are there long enough...apply for RUC, then u can shoot at the lower range without supervision.


By staying under 400$ the CZ is pretty much out of the question. I'd buy a stock 10/22..reliable has them for 225$ if you talk to randy or shane. Mystic precison in kelowna has a stock conversion kit to turn the 10/22 into a G36.

[baggdis300]

what are the poco facilities like?

pistol range? long range? out door only?

[baggdis300]

well i just ordered a sig p226 classic 22. only 589 before taxes and shipping.

dope part is for 500$ i can have either 9mm, 357 sig or 40 slide and barrel to the frame as its the exact same as any other sig p226 same trigger and controls.

[2damaxmr2]

Walther P99 with AS trigger > P226.

[baggdis300]

i prefer outta the box perfection :P

can't beat a sig

[Sp0r3]

well i just ordered a sig p226 classic 22. only 589 before taxes and shipping.

dope part is for 500$ i can have either 9mm, 357 sig or 40 slide and barrel to the frame as its the exact same as any other sig p226 same trigger and controls.

I bought the P226 .22lr with a 9mm conversion kit a year ago. Great pistol. It's a lot cheaper than buying the 9mm P226 with a .22lr conversion kit. Not sure why its like that.

[baggdis300]

the entire pistol is made in USA(classic) unlike the 9mm the frame or slide is made in germany i think.

what ammo did you use?

[blkgsr]

ok just read through the whole thread as i'm wanting to get my PAL and my RPAL and pick up a rifle

a bunch of friends did their PAL through a guy at this place for $160, not sure exactly what was included or not

also looking at silvercore


now for a first gun i was looking at the following:

-ruger 10/22
-sks
-rem 597 (friend has this one)

reading through the thread seems like these are decent choices to start with

the sks seems to be the cheapest to buy, not sure where the ruger comes in at, and i think my friend said he got the 597 around $500??

was going to stay with a 22m but the sks seems like a good option

i'm not getting a handgun for now

also, all shooting will primarily be done in the bush

thoughts?

[baggdis300]

ruger 10/22 is like 250$ i think with a wood stock basic model and ammo is SUPER CHEAP, reliable as boxes of 500 rounds for 19.99 can't beat that.

sks is reliable but finding the ammo can be a PIA theres a supply for now, so if i were you i'd grab a crate of 2280 rounds(usually 300-400$) that should hold you for a while...
but those rounds are corrosive military surplus so you are going to have to clean your rifle better as the crap just gets everywhere..

i did the course at silvercore and i recommend it.. it wasn't boring and well, the instructor was awesome and informative

[blkgsr]

thanks, i think i've narrowed it down to the ruger and the remington

thoughts on the remington? it's about double the price, any reason for this? and benefits of it over the ruger?

[baggdis300]

i dont' really mess around with rifles, handguns are my thang...

lol, too gangsta for rifles.. :devil:

nah, i plan on getting the ruger with a bullpup stock looks dope and still non-res.

[Sp0r3]

the entire pistol is made in USA(classic) unlike the 9mm the frame or slide is made in germany i think.

what ammo did you use?

There shouldn't be no mix and match for country of origin. Your pistol is either made entirely in USA or Germany. Unless you bought a frankenstein sig, I doubt the frame and slide are made in different countries.

Since I'm a poor student, I can only feed whatever its cheap at the time of purchase. Right now, it's running on Remington 115gr FMJ. Not too bad, except in one pack, I had a round which the bullet sat far deeper into the casing. Not too bad though, 1 defect in a box of 500.

For .22lr, I'm using Blazers and Mini-mag. I can only speak from personal experience, but both are great ammo (with mini-mag being a tad better). the blazers gives you the most bang for the buck. That being said, I've experienced more jams in the blazers than the mini-mags (more malfunction drill practices?). But jamming is not really that uncommon for .22lr's.

[baggdis300]

haha, i bought a 1000 rounds of 45 ACP FMJ 230gn for 400$, was planning for 500, but i saved 80$ in total cost more... so figured why the heck not get real good with the 45 first, then get a 9 mm for ipsc or idpa

but i had to take the bus, i brought a backpack and carried 50 lbs of ammunition on my back for two bus's n the skytrain.. NEVER AGAIN....

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

bump...

i'm probably gonna pickup a .357 ruger vaquero sometime this summer, and also a 9mm (i havent decided which one yet)... i might get a 10mm auto instead, but the cost for bullets is more than double. sigh.

yeah the .357 cowboy cuz i duno, i have a thing for old style revolvers and the .357 Magnum 158gr JHP bullets are too yummy. plus i can always use .38 specials for cheap blasting off rounds.

[2damaxmr2]

http://www.shop.tradeexcanada.com/content/tokarev-svt40-and-case-762x54r-surplus-ammo-combo-special-free-shipping-offer

You cannot go wrong with the SVT-40.

[blkgsr]

ok so went shooting today with a couple buddies and really need to get on getting my PAL and RPAL

who is the best to get this done with? formal school or guy in his house doesn't matter to me...just looking for the chepest and best intruction....will have about 6 other people doing it with me

[blkgsr]

getting my PAL and RPAL this weekend...$125 for the PAL and $50 for the RPAL from a guy in Langley

[westcoastgsr]

CZ858 gets my vote. Non Restricted so you can take it out in the woods.

[nns]

getting my PAL and RPAL this weekend...$125 for the PAL and $50 for the RPAL from a guy in Langley

Info on this guy? I'm interested.

[blkgsr]

need to pick between a cz 85 or the IWI Jericho 941

anyone have either?