[gdhillon]

I did a quick search didn't find what exactly i need, i have the mobilicty 44.80 unlimited data north american etc. plan. Service for mobilicity isn't the best and now wind has the same plan so im wondering how the service is with wind.

[TheNewGirl]

The industry speculation is that Wind's going to get bought up soon by one of the big three (my money is on Telus given their sub brand sucks compared to the others and they've just posted huge profits). If I were you I would give it about 4 - 6 months and see if/how that pans out before hopping ships if you're considering any kind of contract.

[willystyle]

They won't get bought up if the government changes legislation to allow Wind to operate here. Orascom has more money than Rogers, Bell and Telus combined.

[TheNewGirl]

Yeah but if the legislation doesn't change and continues to make things difficult for smaller telecoms they'll get eaten up by the larger ones just like the others who have tried it have. That's why I said, wait and see how things go in the next 4-6 months.

[willystyle]

I'd be really surprised if the government DON'T change their legislation to allow foreign ownership to invest into the telecom industry. It would shine a VERY negative light on the Canadian government from the perspective of foreign investors.

First you allow them to apply, then Industry Canada allows them to operate now you have some BS from the Supreme Court of Canada that prohibits them from operating. It speaks volumes about the high risk and turmoil of investing here from the perspective of foreign investors. If the government won't give the green light for WIND to operate. It will make the Canadian government look like a joke.

[Vulcan300]

I don't think it was the Supreme court that issued the ruling. And they weren't wrong with their ruling, they only followed the laws which are outdated.
I think the government will probably change it to allow the competition they wanted.

Back to the OP, what is the 44.80 plan? the $40 plan with tax? If it is, I don't think Wind is offering that plan anymore.

[EmperorIS]

both 25 and 40 plan is back
you have to call in to change
its only available to Edmonton and Vancouver so make sure you tell the call agent specifically

[willystyle]

I don't think it was the Supreme court that issued the ruling. And they weren't wrong with their ruling, they only followed the laws which are outdated.
I think the government will probably change it to allow the competition they wanted.

Back to the OP, what is the 44.80 plan? the $40 plan with tax? If it is, I don't think Wind is offering that plan anymore.
It was Public Mobile and Telus that went to the Supreme Court of Canada to file a complaint regarding this manner. So yes, it was the Federal court that overturn Industry Canada's decision to allow Wind Mobile to operate here. But you're right, it ultimately comes down to the decision of the Harper government to allow the survival of Wind Mobile, one that could turn out ridiculously embarrassing, if they don't side with WIND.

[jackmeister]

And this is why we're stuck with overpriced and underserviced telecom providers. While Telus buying WIND sounds completely reasonable financially, technically they would be running two networks on different frequencies will evidently result in the new network getting shut down.

But given the circumstances regarding foreign investment in Canada recently, I'd bet my money on the Government somehow letting Wind stay the way it is. The opposite would destroy any credibility Canada has left on the international stage.

[StylinRed]

actually i don't think courts said Wind isn't allowed to operate... they said Harper had no right to make that decision, the way he did, so his decision is void

you could say that's simply semantics but that's how it is

[FerrariEnzo]

if anything Shaw might make a move... Its been rumoured that Shaw wants in on the wireless network... this could be their chance and since most of the network is put and gone national, Shaw really has little to do.. just make some minor improvements and the can really compete with Robellus..

[TheNewGirl]

Shaw is making huge moves toward wireless (they're poised to launch their own network, in fact it was supposed to happen in the fall but there was some sort of delay, at least out west, I don't follow the east coast stuff as closely). It wouldn't be surprising if they made a move on either mobilicity or wind, given how difficult the government is making it for smaller providers to move into the telecom industry. But I don't know how liquid they are or if they're in a buying position, I don't think they've posted their numbers yet for last year.

[Alphamale]

if anything Shaw might make a move... Its been rumoured that Shaw wants in on the wireless network... this could be their chance and since most of the network is put and gone national, Shaw really has little to do.. just make some minor improvements and the can really compete with Robellus..

It's not a question of "might", it is a question of when they will formally announce it.

[valent|n0]

I wonder who has more subscribers as of now?
wind or mobilicity (canada wide and BC wide)
anyone got numbers?

[willystyle]

I wonder who has more subscribers as of now?
wind or mobilicity (canada wide and BC wide)
anyone got numbers?
They are both nation-wide carriers. :rolleyes:

[FerrariEnzo]

wind has more, they launched nation wide sooner then Mobi did...

shaw should jsut buy out both Wind and Mobi, then their coverage is would better!


If shaw does buy out either one, i hope they dont just milk us like the Big3... im not worried about contracts, as shaw has never had this in their services, so its not likely that will happen..

[Alatar]

If I heard right, Shaw delayed their move because of a lack of capital at the time. Their plans to get into the wireless market still stand, though. Could possibly be via a buyout of one of the two startups... but that would be a wait and see approach.

As far as Shaw not milking us like Robellus... good luck with that. They're a big corporation who are in it to earn money, just like the other three. The best thing for competition is if Wind and Mobilicity survive and thrive on their own.

[J____]

wind has better/faster data. mobi data cuts out most of the time (at least it was like that 2 months ago when I was with mobi), but mobi had clearer voice quality. Wind has the stupid half duplex issue. So when the other person talks and then you start talking, you cant hear the other person. lol

[Peturbo]

Wind has been good to me. Only problem is when I send my friend a text or whatsapp message, he doesn't get the message until 10 minutes later.
Theres also a delay getting messages from them. Usually comes in waves.
Anybody else have this problem?

[Alatar]

I decided to be a bit of a lamb and try Wind yesterday. Purchased the phone, $40 unlimited everything plan, and proceeded to drive around the GVRD to see if I had good reception, WIND HOME or WIND AWAY while doing so.

Tested inside a couple of buildings. Found Port Moody reception to go on WIND AWAY. Burnaby/Vancouver, reception was strong at all times outdoors. Haven't tested data speeds yet, but will test drive through Richmond, possibly North Vancouver tonight.

Made a couple of test phone calls, no duplexing issues as I've read previously. Calls were clear, and none failed while outdoors/in a house. Going to test from the basement of my house later, as well.

More details to follow.

[Peturbo]

^Do you have any text message delays as I do?

[Alatar]

^ Sending and receiving, messages arrive within 5 seconds to my Rogers cell. Messages sent from my Rogers cell to the Wind handset arrived even faster, within 2 seconds.

Voice issues, none as yet, reception, the only poor area noted thus far for outside was Port Moody near Burnaby Mountain. Indoors, haven't been inside any malls/buildings aside from my work (concrete walls, auto repair shop) and I get about 3 bars inside/against two concrete walls.

Haven't tested the data speeds yet, since I'm using the 5230, and I believe I need to download something from the OVI store in order to tether. As far as data/browsing/gps on the phone, all are very quick, though.

[baggdis300]

mobilicity works fine for me, i live in delta and go to school in burnaby and i usually have full bars everywhere.

another cool thing is data tethering is included/unlimited, so right now im on the bus on my macbook lol, bluetooth internet FTW its only like 70kb/s dl speed 30 kb/s up (speedtest.net)

[willystyle]

mobilicity works fine for me, i live in delta and go to school in burnaby and i usually have full bars everywhere.

another cool thing is data tethering is included/unlimited, so right now im on the bus on my macbook lol, bluetooth internet FTW its only like 70kb/s dl speed 30 kb/s up (speedtest.net)
That's horrible!

[baggdis300]

im using a 50$ sony Ericsson phone, i dont think it gets 3g signal...

its about 1/3 the speed of my telus iphone.

[lowda9]

Winds good. I'm on the student plan $25 a month. Unlimited texting and minutes. I can text to the united states too as long as I'm in the "wind zone." cant beat that for 25 bucks.

[evil_jigglypuff]

^
Mobi has the same plan though they don't call it "student plan."

http://mobilicity.ca/plans/

[FerrariEnzo]

Mobi and Wind usually have similar plans/price...

coverage is bigger with Wind.. i heard mixed results with reception and data

[baggdis300]

its a matter of time until mobilicity gets better coverage...

as there parent company is a MULTI BILLION dollar corporation, they don't have any money problems....

[Alatar]

Speedtest on Wind, 1.05mbps down, 1.08mbps up, ping 139
Tested using Google Nexus One on Wind 3G

Speedtest on Rogers, 5.09mbps down, 0.35mbps up, ping 309
Tested using Samsung Galaxy Captivate S on Rogers 3G

Both tested at Duffins Donuts, on Burnaby speedtest server, at 20:01 -0700 GMT

Just tested again, 21:15 -0700 GMT

Rogers:
Ping 263ms
Down 3.50mbps
Up 0.38mbps

Wind:
Ping 190ms
Down 2.5mbps
Up 1.13mbps

[Mr.HappySilp]

Shaw is making huge moves toward wireless (they're poised to launch their own network, in fact it was supposed to happen in the fall but there was some sort of delay, at least out west, I don't follow the east coast stuff as closely). It wouldn't be surprising if they made a move on either mobilicity or wind, given how difficult the government is making it for smaller providers to move into the telecom industry. But I don't know how liquid they are or if they're in a buying position, I don't think they've posted their numbers yet for last year.

SHAW HAVE OVER 46% profit last year so if your bill is $100 over $46 of that is pure profit for them. I am sure they have the money lol.

[valent|n0]

I paid $360 + tax for a year of service with mobilicity
live in coquitlam work in north vancouver
I am happy with the service and to be able to get everything for this price point
unlimited calling to all north americans number (US and Canada) is pretty sweet, area code becomes irrelevant when you have this plan :)

[crazyazn]

I'm thinking of switching to WIND/Mobilicity as well...currently on Fido retentions ($17.50 + $10 CID/VM/2500SMS + Flex Data)

Thinking of going with Mobilicity $25 + $10 data add-on

Any comments on current coverage/reception of WIND/Mobilicity?

I'll be in Vancouver/Richmond/UBC 90% of the time.

[J____]

I'm thinking of switching to WIND/Mobilicity as well...currently on Fido retentions ($17.50 + $10 CID/VM/2500SMS + Flex Data)

Thinking of going with Mobilicity $25 + $10 data add-on

Any comments on current coverage/reception of WIND/Mobilicity?

I'll be in Vancouver/Richmond/UBC 90% of the time.

reception is pretty much the same as Fido when i had it. Richmond, van, ubc is pretty much full bars out in the open. Indoors is a different story.

[Alatar]

How are mobilicity's data speeds these days? Any improvements on past speeds?

[crazyazn]

reception is pretty much the same as Fido when i had it. Richmond, van, ubc is pretty much full bars out in the open. Indoors is a different story.

How bad is it indoors...? No reception at all? lol

[Alatar]

The frequency that Wind/Mobilicity operate on (1700) doesn't have the penetrating power that the big 3 (850) get through, for example, concrete walls.

Wind/Mobilicity were trying for the 700 frequency, but I can't remember the details of that auction, or when it's supposed to happen. If either of them do acquire that band, and the Big 3 don't, that means the indoors issue would be reduced/eliminated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong with anything I said here.

[FerrariEnzo]

there still deciding on how to proceed with the auction.. whether to allow Robellus to bid or not.. Rogers already has around 80mhz of the AWS band themselves which they plan NOT to use, plus whatever else they have.. the reason why rogers has soooo friggin much is to stop any new carriers coming... this makes rogers the largest spectrum holder at 160mhz in north america.. which is twice as much as Verizon, and they cover more area then rogers does... Bell/Telus has a combine total of around 140mhz spectrum... if robellus were allow to bid, you can pretty much say good by to wind/mobilicity... as their current spectrum isnt going to compete...


on a good news, i like mobi's $25=$10 unlimited data.. expect wind to follow as well..

[asdfpic]

mobilicity's reception is very poor in buildings

[PornMaster]

If you guys don't need data and such why not go with Chatr wireless
prepaid no contract and you just fill up your account
$25 a month unlimited

[FerrariEnzo]

If you guys don't need data and such why not go with Chatr wireless
prepaid no contract and you just fill up your account
$25 a month unlimited

you have unlimited voice, yea.. but can only send 50 sms!! and its $25 for 6 months.. after that.. what is it.. $50? haha


"Offers available for a limited time and subject to change without notice.

† Available to new customers only for six consecutive months from date of plan activation. Regular monthly rates apply after promotional period.
** Customers who enroll in auto-pay will automatically be eligible for this promotion. Eligibility is allowed once during the customer's account lifetime. A $10 bonus will be applied to customer's balance once per month upon each successful credit card transaction, for the first six months of program enrollment. Application of the bonus to your account will be processed within 48 hours after a successful payment. If un-enrollment occurs during the first six months, no further bonuses will be applied. If the credit card provided cannot be charged during any of the first six months, no further bonus will be applied for the remainder of the program. "

this is their TOS.. you gotta sign up by Credit Card and pay using it to beable to get this PROMO! WTF... Robbers will be Robbers...

[Alatar]

I'd rather not suck at the teet of Rogers' 2g network. I'm already slurping away at the teet of their 3g network.

I'm actually just going to go with 2 phone, methinks. :troll:

[crazyazn]

The only reason I want to switch to Mobilicity/WIND is because of the unlimited and (In my case) faster data.

[baggdis300]

mobilicity has the cheapest plans..

the shitty part is if you don't have a c/c you have to pay 3$ "transaction fee" to get the store to add $$ to your account.

but then again u should just buy a years worth of service for a couple hundred

oh and USA roaming is 20 cents per minute, 15 cents per text and 5$ per mb definitely the cheapest pay per use roaming..

[rien]

my dad is going to be in surrey/burnaby most of the time. wind or mobilicity or virgin mobile? he just needs voice.

[tiger_handheld]

hey guys - does anyone know if Mobilicity or Wind will get iphone 5?
My contract with rogers will end in about 2 months..

[FerrariEnzo]

hey guys - does anyone know if Mobilicity or Wind will get iphone 5?
My contract with rogers will end in about 2 months..

no one knows.. If the iPhone5 supports the AWS, then you can just get the phone from anywhere and it will work...

[Psykopathik]

hey guys - does anyone know if Mobilicity or Wind will get iphone 5?
My contract with rogers will end in about 2 months..

no one even knows what the damn phone looks like...

[ikki]

can someone give feedback about current Mobilicity vs. Wind reception ?

[Alphamale]

^Depends on where you live.

[willystyle]

can someone give feedback about current Mobilicity vs. Wind reception ?
Take my residence for example. I have great reception with Fido/Rogers, Bellus, and Wind, but is literally a dead zone with Mobilicity. I can't even make a phone call outside of my house, so test it out yourself.

[CRS]

Take my residence for example. I have great reception with Fido/Rogers, Bellus, and Wind, but is literally a dead zone with Mobilicity. I can't even make a phone call outside of my house, so test it out yourself.

Where do you live?

I have full bars around my house.

Renfrew Heights.

[Graeme S]

I'm having a great time with wind, only a couple dead spots (canada line, basement of harbor centre, middle of stanley park. The way bars show up is kind of weird, I used to get you'll bars almost everywhere on my bold, but would get data hiccups here and there. With my galaxy s I'm getting partial bats on some places but a more reliable data connection.

All in all, good times.