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Was I discriminated against?
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 09:09 PM
Hello, I've been lurking around this site these last 2 weeks and thought I had to make an account and join this community tonight specially to talk about what happened to me.
Cliff notes at the bottom
About an hour ago I stepped into Benz coffee on Robson with a handful of 20's in my hand that I had just received from my friend.
I needed change for a 20 so I approached the cashier and asked if I can get a 5 out of the 20... she took the money and looked a little confused, so I said maybe a 10 and two 5's... then I proceeded to count the cash in my hand to make sure I was given the right amount from my friend.
Soon after the cashier girl said something in the lines of, we cant do that.
I thought okay... got my money back and stepped out. Then my Filipino friend found this ridiculous and took the 20 to the cashier again while I stood outside.
I could see that he was arguing with the Caucasian cashier and the Asian co-workers/manager?
After a short while he came back with the change and told me the girl thought the money was fake and he had explained that he just drew the cash from the ATM next door and had a receipt ect, ect...
Later it dawned on me that I was discriminated against because firstly the 20 was an old one, it was obviously real and I had a handful of them anyway... but because of my immigrant appearance (Im Iranian with a beard) and because immigrants with a wad of money in their hand should be perceived as criminals... I was denied.
I could have very well wanted to buy a coffee or treat and not just wanted change... its just that I know If I was a white blond or Asian student, this would have never happened.
I was discriminated against right? Not that I want an excuse to sue or anything, I just want to tell people that even to this day, stereo types and racism exist.
thanks for reading my rant.
Cliff notes
had big wad of money in my hand
I look like what television propagandizes as a terrorist
I was denied change for my 20, although I could have been a customer
my friend argues with them, gets the change, and tells me they thought it was fake
my 20 dollars was obviously real due to its age and feel.
the_rickster
02-16-2011, 09:13 PM
i'd say no. your buddy explained the situation and they resolved it on your behalf. end of story.
Razor Ramon HG
02-16-2011, 09:15 PM
No.
A lot of places are sketchy about taking old bills, and a lot don't even do change unless you buy something from them. Playing the race card is irrelevant.
Manic!
02-16-2011, 09:16 PM
You want change buy something, you were not discriminated against. a lots of places employees cannot open the till until you buy something.
StylinRed
02-16-2011, 09:18 PM
so you're new to the country?
no offense to you but you're far from a minority (in terms of the lower mainland) :D
what you may not know (since you're new here) we have a major problem with counterfeit currency and $20s especially the old ones are one of the, if not the #1, counterfeited bill
so if you went in and asked for change and didn't even buy anything that's like really suspicious for them
so if the cashier felt it was fake they're in every right to say 'no'
I know it must be difficult being new here and having all the stereotypes in the media from down South in your face
but you shouldn't have to be too worried about it happening... Im not saying it doesn't happen but it just doesn't sound like it in this case
however there isn't much info to garner from your story other than being denied
Volvo-brickster
02-16-2011, 09:24 PM
Life is unfair...complain on RS.
Wongtouski
02-16-2011, 09:24 PM
I was discriminated against right?
So let me get this straight, a middle eastern person, with wads of cash, presumably dressed properly, who mentioned more than once that he's got a pile of 20's (and counting them), who also calls himself "TheHighImperial". And you think she's discriminating you because you exude the image of poverty and dishonesty?
You know that they don't have to give you change if they don't want to right? Especially when you don't buy jack shitfrom them.
_Hotsauce_
02-16-2011, 09:26 PM
I tell people to fuck off when they ask me for change all the time, it doesn't matter what color your skin is. You want change? Go to a fucking bank or buy something.
:2finger:
yellowpower
02-16-2011, 09:26 PM
deal with it bitch.
Hurricane
02-16-2011, 09:29 PM
First of all....you said ''Can I get a 5 out of this 20''?
WTF does that even mean? I am with her, I would be pretty confused too.
Why did you need change anyhow? Do you think every store is your personal bank? If you have such a big wad of 20's buy a fuckin coffee or a water like everyone else does. You know those service fees ATMs charge? think of it the same way. Its common sense.
White blond people and Asian students are regularly turned down in the exact same situation.
If you're not a troll; you're an idiot. People like you perpetuate the racial problems in our society by attributing every slight in their lives to them.
Grow up.
The_AK
02-16-2011, 09:30 PM
you should burn the mother fucker down
spoon.ek9
02-16-2011, 09:31 PM
i didn't even have to read the thread to know this was a fail post hahah
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 09:32 PM
The till was opened and Im pretty sure Blenz coffee doesnt have a no change policy.
The bill wasnt 5-10 years old but it had been naturally used for so long that you cant deny it could have been fake
Im not new here, infact my grade 2 elementary class was in downtown when I first immigrated.
Nightwalker
02-16-2011, 09:33 PM
Immigrants with a wad of money in their hand seems the norm to me. In BC, I don't think I've met many poor new immigrant (especially middle eastern). They're more likely to be ballin' out of control.
Ferdi
02-16-2011, 09:39 PM
shoulve bombed the place
Wongtouski
02-16-2011, 09:42 PM
The till was opened and Im pretty sure Blenz coffee doesnt have a no change policy.
The bill wasnt 5-10 years old but it had been naturally used for so long that you cant deny it could have been fake
Im not new here, infact my grade 2 elementary class was in downtown when I first immigrated.
Then you're here LONG ENOUGH to realise that this is not Mississippi and you need to calm the fuck down.
StylinRed
02-16-2011, 09:46 PM
oh u've been here since grade 2.... what the fuck.... i removed my fail cuz i felt bad that u were new here :P
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 09:47 PM
You dont have to be black to be a victim of discrimination.
Also black people can be racist too.
Presto
02-16-2011, 09:52 PM
I'm with the dudes at Benz, as I tend to discriminate against mouth-breathing, self-entitled asswipes, too.
drunkrussian
02-16-2011, 09:54 PM
i was once chased by security and stopped by a manager because the manager thought i was shop lifting. i didnt even buy anything, am nowherr near a criminal and no alarm or anythinf even went off. people are just fucking morons and so long as you look different, are wearing grubby clothif at the time, are tattood or display any other number of possible factors i could list that make you "sketch" this will keep happening. so just stand up for yourself and dont let it get to you mang
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Fafine
02-16-2011, 09:54 PM
so you preparing the c4 vest right now or what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6CHruMn7c
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 09:57 PM
They sell Corvette vests? where
I'm with the dudes at Benz, as I tend to discriminate against mouth-breathing, self-entitled asswipes, too.please further elaborate on how I am this.
RCubed
02-16-2011, 10:00 PM
You got denied because of your self righteous attitude.
Look, you even made a thread about it here on RS.
Idiot.
Integgyy
02-16-2011, 10:01 PM
dumbest shit ive ever read.. go back to iran where im sure theres no discrimination..
I hate it when people are over sensitive to this type of thing and pull the race card.
SupraTTturbo2jz
02-16-2011, 10:02 PM
shave your beard, clean yourself up a lil.
midnight_r
02-16-2011, 10:05 PM
you tool stop trolling
1exotic
02-16-2011, 10:06 PM
strong username to post ratio
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 10:09 PM
shave your beard, clean yourself up a lil.Had I been wearing a Canucks jersey with my beard, then maybe I wouldnt have been denied.
I need a Canucks hats to show that I conform to this society, then I will be perceived as a good middle east'ner.
scottsman
02-16-2011, 10:10 PM
You dont have to be black to be a victim of discrimination.
Also black people can be racist too.
You trying to be an Arab MLK Jr. or something? Grow some balls. This has nothing to do with black people and if you are even remotely comparing this situation to the decades of Bullshit that African Americans have had to deal with then you are an idiot.
Guy_LikeWhoa
02-16-2011, 10:10 PM
You dont have to be black to be a victim of discrimination.
Also black people can be racist too.
Wtf do black people have to do with what happened to you?
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RCubed
02-16-2011, 10:12 PM
Had I been wearing a Canucks jersey with my beard, then maybe I wouldnt have been denied.
I need a Canucks hats to show that I conform to this society, then I will be perceived as a good middle east'ner.
No, you'll just look like a terrorist with a canucks hat.
to my understanding, you were denied because the cashier thought the bill was fake.
end of story :speechless:
No, you'll just look like a terrorist with a canucks hat.
LOL :fullofwin:
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 10:14 PM
You trying to be an Arab MLK Jr. or something? Grow some balls. This has nothing to do with black people and if you are even remotely comparing this situation to the decades of Bullshit that African Americans have had to deal with then you are an idiot.
Wtf do black people have to do with what happened to you?
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Reread the thread on why I said that.
ae101
02-16-2011, 10:16 PM
here wear this
http://www.icollector.com/Red-Marvin-John-Malkovich-Hero-Bomb-Movie-Props_i9938576
run like john malkovich did in the movie red like this (skip to start watching 0:44 to 0:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39MW25N3x6I&feature=related
Gumby
02-16-2011, 10:23 PM
1) No I don't think you were discriminated against.
2) I think some posters here are being borderline racist.
3) This thread will likely end up in Fight Club, or trashed.
scottsman
02-16-2011, 10:23 PM
The only reason I am hanging around this thread is to read the hilarious comments directed at you. It isn't to re read your idiotic post.
classified
02-16-2011, 10:25 PM
you are stupid, most places do not have many 5s or 10s by the end of the night, if you trade a 20 ur taking more of there 5's most places dont like taking 20s because u cant use them if you still have the rest of your shift to do unless someone comes in with a 50 or a 100, its common sense
ae101
02-16-2011, 10:25 PM
seriously dude the blenz guy didn't pull the race card ok, so thats it period
i bet the op just want us all to agree with him thats all
Qmx323
02-16-2011, 10:30 PM
4495
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 10:32 PM
This is my public announcement for anyone else who finds themselves in these kind of situations in the future that it can or will happen.
you are stupid, most places do not have many 5s or 10s by the end of the night, if you trade a 20 ur taking more of there 5's most places dont like taking 20s because u cant use them if you still have the rest of your shift to do unless someone comes in with a 50 or a 100, its common senseIm stupid? then why would they make the claim of counterfeit currency to avoid giving out their change? This is Blenz Coffee we are taking about.
The only reason I am hanging around this thread is to read the hilarious comments directed at you. It isn't to re read your idiotic post.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/68/csb1.jpg
scottsman
02-16-2011, 10:39 PM
I don't get it?
The picture applies more to what your saying than my post. Your attempt at humor has failed.
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 10:43 PM
seriously dude the blenz guy didn't pull the race card ok, so thats it period
i bet the op just want us all to agree with him thats allMaybe its one of those things where you have had to be there. The cashier was a girl and I had many 20's on me.
Gh0stRider
02-16-2011, 10:46 PM
:troll: problem?
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 10:48 PM
I guess Im...... forever alone.jpg
CKLCKL
02-16-2011, 10:51 PM
this thread almost as sad as the island side of the forum
this thread almost as sad as the island side of the forum
Which is probably why Manic hangs out here so much, LOL.
this is a funny thread.
Honestly - I'm assuming you're still in High School.
Most people have some sort of prejudice towards specific races - whether or not they show it. Maybe the cashier was told by the manager not to give out change. Maybe she later used the excuse that it was counterfeit to not sound like a jerk. Maybe she was running short on small bills. Maybe she ACTUALLY hate Persians, and just wanted to give you a hard time. Maybe she ACTUALLY thought they were counterfeit, but not because of your skin colour.
But honestly, this little event in your life, where you might come bitch on a forum and/or bitch for weeks to your friends/family, is not worth your time. Could it have been discrimination? it's a possibility. Can you ever be sure? Not a chance.
You're still young - you need to stop carrying a chip on your shoulder - thinking you need to fit in for people to trust you, or always thinking people are out to get you. If and when you get a real job, working in the real world - and you experience real discrimination - then you can make a big deal out of this.
TheHighImperial
02-16-2011, 11:12 PM
Its no big deal, maybe I wasnt discriminated against but I think I was atleast stereotyped.
Maybe as a thug or criminal, it doesnt matter it wont bother me, I just want to say that it happens and it happened to me tonight.
I hope some people here learn a lesson as Im sure bigots and ignorant humans are everywhere.
The High Imperial
FerrariEnzo
02-16-2011, 11:27 PM
its not coz you had a handful of 20s that seem like drug money
its not coz your iranian with a handful of 20s that seem like drug money
its coz you buy anything from them... your rich buy only wanted change...
if anyone needs to learn a lesson it's you.
no one is going to make change for you unless
a) they're a nice person
b) you buy something from them
Maybe its one of those things where you have had to be there. The cashier was a girl and I had many 20's on me.
for god sakes...u're sitting here discriminating cuz the cashier was a girl :failed:
also i'd like to ask if it is plausible for someone to be carrying a stack of bills and have one of those be counterfeit? YES :fullofwin:
TRDood
02-16-2011, 11:52 PM
Blenz have no obligations to change your $20. You know ordering change from a bank cost them time and money right?
Go buy a cookie or coffee. Dumbshit. And no, whether you look brown/black/yellow/white/green/rainbow/naked has nothing to do with not giving a non-customer change.
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Qmx323
02-17-2011, 12:01 AM
Im chinese and I feel discriminated in richmond
they frown when i speak english to them
ps. my avatar is my face when they frown at me
TheHighImperial
02-17-2011, 12:08 AM
Better then being turned away because they think your a criminal.
I think I need blond streaks and a shave like this guy on the right, and not look like the guy on the left.
from one of the threads I was reading
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1422/ff1r.jpg
scottsman
02-17-2011, 12:19 AM
Arash has another account?
El Bastardo
02-17-2011, 12:26 AM
Better then being turned away because they think your a criminal.
It sounds like you were turned away because you have poor communication skills. Hell, even in this thread it takes you two or three posts for you to get the point you want to make across.
No wonder she was confused initially. You asked for a "five out of twenty" before you made your intentions known. Shes supposed to serve coffee, not exchange currency.
Shes a barista, not a bank teller.
You've also made it a point to mention specific races, your Filipino friend, the Caucasian and Asian people at Blenz. What does this matter? If things like this matter so much to you maybe you should make a point of sticking to businesses where you feel "racially comfortable"
I'm not flaming you here but it seems like you have a real chip on your shoulder about races. You mentioned that it "dawned on you that your immigrant appearance" led to having your request denied. Not the fact that she may have not had enough small bills to float her thru to the rest of her shift, and not the fact that her job is not to make change for people.
The next time you want change, buy something. Don't walk away from a situation with a sour taste in your mouth thinking that you've been victimized by a person who you feel wanted to serve any race but your own. You don't know this person behind the counter. She deserves better than to be talked about on a forum by a guy who came to Revscene to get some sort of validation.
You mention that the television propagandizes the way you look as being a "terrorist". What the hell does a "terrorist" even look like anyway? I honestly don't know.
I think you should take a look at how you approach the world. Making a big deal out of this situation and continuing to try to convince us of your perspective shows an unhealthy mindset. I hope you realize this before you become a bitter, jaded, bigot.
Mr.HappySilp
02-17-2011, 12:42 AM
lol A lot of places don't give change unless you buy something. Think about it a lot of people who buy things use 5s 10s or even 20s even 1 out of 20 customer they serve just want to change it going to cause them a lot of issue.
Sid Vicious
02-17-2011, 12:42 AM
leave it to twitter, jesus christ
No.
A lot of places are sketchy about taking old bills, and a lot don't even do change unless you buy something from them. Playing the race card is irrelevant.
http://humormedication.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/elephant2-480x356.jpg
Arash has another account?
You dont have to be black to be a victim of discrimination.
Also black people can be racist too.
Had I been wearing a Canucks jersey with my beard, then maybe I wouldnt have been denied.
I need a Canucks hats to show that I conform to this society, then I will be perceived as a good middle east'ner.
Was your car parked outside where she could see it? Maybe that's why she didn't give you change. :fullofwin:
Vansterdam
02-17-2011, 02:41 AM
Old 20s are sketchy lol I keep one as a collectible
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Harvey Specter
02-17-2011, 03:08 AM
Thank for wasting 10 seconds of my life.
Hurricane
02-17-2011, 05:03 AM
Complete troll. F&F picture? Cmon :moderatorban:
Its pretty obvious now; unfortunately your troll attempt wasn't interesting, provocative, or even remotely funny. Therefore you deserve another 500 fails, and a permanent ban.
Please bring something original next time you create an account at your sisters house; bitch.
Vansterdam
02-17-2011, 06:27 AM
TROLLOLOLOLOL
Oleophobic
02-17-2011, 06:49 AM
damn you should've put on one of these to hide your beard:
http://giving.typepad.com/photos/scenes_of_wealth_bondage/ski-mask.jpg
jasonturbo
02-17-2011, 07:03 AM
http://www.google.ca/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200705/r145993_512250.jpg&sa=X&ei=hkZdTc6wA4qcsQPF3bTICg&ved=0CAQQ8wc4Aw&usg=AFQjCNGnqaA1yd3TU-QD55vAOmhTNt3WEg
Glove
02-17-2011, 07:30 AM
I think this guy has the most fails in the fewest ammount of posts
Mancini
02-17-2011, 09:14 AM
I could have very well wanted to buy a coffee or treat and not just wanted change... its just that I know If I was a white blond or Asian student, this would have never happened.
Blondes and Asians. They've got it made!
Unfotunately, if they hook up and produce a baby, it may not have the necessary genetic features to benefit from society like their parents.
:p
CKLCKL
02-17-2011, 09:18 AM
OP is not welcomed here
OP is not welcomed here
Everyone is welcome here...............
I gotta hand it to OP. He's taking it well................. up the ass.
Op, I don't think you were discriminated, but if it were to happen in a place like Rosedale, then I'd think twice about it.
Sorry to those who live in Rosedale, but it is KKK country, LOL.
Isn't that where Berzerker used to live? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Graeme S
02-17-2011, 09:36 AM
Cliff notes at the bottom
Cliff notes
Im not new here, infact my grade 2 elementary class was in downtown when I first immigrated.
So you've been here since grade 2, but you call them "Cliff's notes" and not "Coles notes"?
That aside, let's be honest. It seems a lot like you're grasping at straws. She didn't make change, and you wanted her to be 'wrong' for some reason or another. Your friend went in to bitch her out afterwards which is totally going to make her more conducive to helping you and other people in the future.
Walk out, live with it, and move on.
Tegra_Devil
02-17-2011, 09:41 AM
it is racist to think white people are being racist to you.
i take offense
jasonturbo
02-17-2011, 09:49 AM
it is racist to think white people are being racist to you.
i take offense
I didn't even want to bother pointing out the fact that he clearly stereotypes people as being racists against individuals who appear to be of middle-eastern descent.
InvisibleSoul
02-17-2011, 10:13 AM
You're going to need some proof, son.
All of this is based on SPECULATION.
You're speculating that if you were white, they would have been more than happy to make change for you with a smile on their face.
This has not been PROVEN.
If you witnessed them giving change to three white guys without a problem prior to your incident, maybe you have a case.
You have nothing to base your accusations on.
subwoffers
02-17-2011, 10:37 AM
Cliff notes
had big wad of money in my hand
I look like what television propagandizes as a terrorist
I was denied change for my 20, although I could have been a customer
my friend argues with them, gets the change, and tells me they thought it was fake
my 20 dollars was obviously real due to its age and feel.
I hate people like you, I really do.
CKLCKL
02-17-2011, 10:41 AM
So let the rock understand this... you're the WCW champion sucka? the silver spoon motha fucka!
illicitstylz
02-17-2011, 11:10 AM
YOU AND YOUR CANDY ASS JUST GOT CHECKED INTO THE SMACK DOWN HOTELLLLLL
sulos
02-17-2011, 11:29 AM
Wow, a handful of 20's and you can buy a cookie? You don't deserve a cookie for making such a stupid post.
It was said before, the business needs the change for customers. You are just some cheap guy who wouldnt spend $1 for a cookie. I think you are the racist.
Moral of the story, stop being cheap and buy something or pay the bank fee!
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AzNightmare
02-17-2011, 11:36 AM
next time you should just buy something maybe. Then you'll get change.
Oh well, Welcome to RS! The best thread in the world.
Don't be discouraged. Every now and then, some member will make stupid threads,
and get flamed like no tomorrow. It was just you this time.
will068
02-17-2011, 01:33 PM
It's a place of business. They can deny your business anytime.
Oh wait, you were not even a paying customer.
Also, if there's any suspicion about the validity of the money you are handing to them, expect to be denied.
will068
02-17-2011, 01:36 PM
So you've been here since grade 2, but you call them "Cliff's notes" and not "Coles notes"?
:lol:lol:lol:lol
Who says coles notes though ? hahah... Can't blame an Iranian guy to be Americanized... oh wait... LOL
SlowRider
02-17-2011, 01:53 PM
if i was the cashier i would have said "no" to you then procede to ask you to leavethe store before the cops are called in.... "laughs"
TheKingdom2000
02-17-2011, 02:12 PM
I think you are the racist.
lmao how is he a racist?
Nightwalker
02-17-2011, 07:08 PM
lmao how is he a racist?
If the first thing in your head after something doesn't go your way is something along the lines of "I think they're discriminating against me because of my race," you may be a racist.
TheKingdom2000
02-17-2011, 07:38 PM
If the first thing in your head after something doesn't go your way is something along the lines of "I think they're discriminating against me because of my race," you may be a racist.
umm i don`t think so.
I think the word you`re looking for is ignorant, not racist.
cheapskate
02-17-2011, 08:09 PM
Here's a little secret: You're not the centre of the universe. You = :failed:
Psykopathik
02-17-2011, 09:04 PM
stores only have a finate amount of change that has to last throughout the day. giving every guy who wants change for the bus means they cant give change to a PAYING customer.
i had the misfortune of working the till at a 7-11 back in the day with an ATM. every drunk motherfucker with a bank card wanted me to break $20s. I say no, you have to buy something. thy buy a $0.10 piece of candy and i give them change.
douche move on their part IMO, but not against the rules.
StylinRed
02-17-2011, 09:32 PM
umm i don`t think so.
I think the word you`re looking for is ignorant, not racist.
both of you are wrong the word is "insecure"
asahai69
02-18-2011, 12:35 AM
iranian you say?
do you look anything like these guys? its best bro
http://www.google.ca/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D307743%26d%3D12378 80824&sa=X&ei=uTxeTfHrA4WesQOK3OzACA&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE5cKYIDTyl07QMsFpaN6oOazzVOg
will068
02-18-2011, 01:38 AM
iranian you say?
do you look anything like these guys? its best bro
http://www.google.ca/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D307743%26d%3D12378 80824&sa=X&ei=uTxeTfHrA4WesQOK3OzACA&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE5cKYIDTyl07QMsFpaN6oOazzVOg
Guido/Honger Hybrid.... :troll:
Hot Karl
02-18-2011, 02:10 AM
LOL @ WAD OF 20'S BEING BALLER.
thedirty.com called, they were wondering why you haven't posted your pic yet?
StylinRed
02-18-2011, 02:53 AM
iranian you say?
do you look anything like these guys? its best bro
now now someone shouldnt be casting stones :)
TheHighImperial
02-18-2011, 03:07 AM
An old high school picture of me, but do I look like someone who would pass counterfeits? :troll:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2hoe36c.jpg
Tegra_Devil
02-18-2011, 07:18 AM
OMG......................AND NOW! this will officially be going to fight club
Soundy
02-18-2011, 07:27 AM
"Was I discriminated against?"
"Yes you were: the cashier could tell you were an idiot and refused to serve you based on that alone."
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