[fliptuner]

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1367133

Two people are dead after an early morning hit and run crash on Lougheed Highway at Pitt River Road.

It began around 12:30 this morning when a passerby stopped to help two people involved in a minor accident.

RCMP Inspector Stephan Drolet says the three were on the side of the road when they were hit by a vehicle which sped off, killing the good Samaritan, and one of initial accident victims,"it was a hit and run accident, since then Coquitlam RCMP through extensive efforts were able to locate the suspect vehicle and at this point we're looking at locating the driver."

Drolet says the other victim was taken to hospital in serious condition.

Lougheed Highway at Pitt River Road will remain closed to traffic for a number of hours while Police investigate.



I was heading home (Lougheed/Pitt River Rd.) from Burnaby. Lougheed is closed from Colony Farms to Chilko.

If you're heading North to Port Moody, Coquitlam Centre, Westwood Plateau or Westwood, you'll have to detour up Mariner. Further East to PoCo, take Mary Hill Bypass.

[Harvey Specter]

Awful, RIP.

[fliptuner]

Yup, especially to the guy that was trying to help with the initial accident.

[StylinRed]

damn thats horrible i usually stop if ppl are in an accident too but im normally worried about the crashed car exploding (paranoid) then other traffic

rip

[TheKingdom2000]

I don't know why, but it pisses me off when they say, "It was a hit and run accident"

[vafanculo]

I don't know why, but it pisses me off when they say, "It was a hit and run accident"

Well, to be fair, it probably WAS an accident, unless the driver intended to run them over.

Little bit OT, but in a situation like this, what would happen to the driver had he stayed (and it was a pure accident, no drinking, speeding, etc), as opposed to what will happen to him after he's been found ?
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[StylinRed]

he goes home if he stayed

he goes to jail since he ran and they catch him; if he turns himself in the sentence wont be so bad may even be conditional

[DC5-S]

That moron should be put in jail for the rest of his life or executed
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[OTG-ZR2]

One of my friends responded to this accident last night.

Sad situation for all involved.

RIP.

[Roach]

Terrible :(

Kev

[hal0g0dv2]

dam that is brutal
rip

[iamed]

was wondering what happened last night, road was blocked off and had to detour up marry hill. :( RIP

[jpark]

yea buddy was telling me about this last night... r.i.p

[maxx]

reminds me of the time i stopped on granville + 49th to push some lady's benz from the left lane to the right and off granville at 2230. i had to stare people down for 30 seconds of my life.

[fliptuner]

Well, to be fair, it probably WAS an accident, unless the driver intended to run them over.

Little bit OT, but in a situation like this, what would happen to the driver had he stayed (and it was a pure accident, no drinking, speeding, etc), as opposed to what will happen to him after he's been found ?
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A lot of accidents are avoidable though. I go thought that intersection 2-10 times a day and the only way it could've been a real accident is if the cars were stopped on Pitt River, right after on the SE corner and the car was going the same direction - the rest of the intersection has excellent visibility. You know as well as I how many people aren't paying attention to their surroundings.

When it comes to car "accidents" IMO there's a big difference between an accident and an event with an unfavourable outcome. In this case I'm betting it's the latter.

ie. text while driving, improper equipment for the conditions, not paying full attention etc. causing a crash, is negligent and avoidable not accidental.

[ak6]

so that's why that part of the road was blocked off... RIP to the two

[EmperorIS]

i'm going to withhold judgement ...
because ppl in this city are really retarded when crossing the roads.

people just walk on the street without looking both sides for incoming cars they think cars can stop in time for them no matter what

or in parking lots fucking morons would walk right behind ur car when ur reversing making you slam you breaks ..
yes your suppose to make sure its clear before you reverse but people need to be more fucking aware of their surroundings too

for example cunt fags students at UBC just walk right on the road to cross the street even though there is a car coming ... it never crossed heir mind to wait for the car to pass before walking out

or a single car would be stopped at the stop sign .. but no one would think to let the car go through first

[Lomac]

i'm going to withhold judgement ...
because ppl in this city are really retarded when crossing the roads.

people just walk on the street without looking both sides for incoming cars they think cars can stop in time for them no matter what

or in parking lots fucking morons would walk right behind ur car when ur reversing making you slam you breaks ..
yes your suppose to make sure its clear before you reverse but people need to be more fucking aware of their surroundings too

for example cunt fags students at UBC just walk right on the road to cross the street even though there is a car coming ... it never crossed heir mind to wait for the car to pass before walking out

or a single car would be stopped at the stop sign .. but no one would think to let the car go through first

From the article...:
RCMP Inspector Stephan Drolet says the three were on the side of the road...

[pk_volt]

You can't make any full judgement.

It could've been dark and difficult for the driver to see. Could've happened to any of you guys... how would you react?

[fliptuner]

Sure I can -- the fucktard killed 2 people and took off like a little bitch.

Accident or not, the way he reacted after he hit 2 innocent people is what I'm judging him on.

[Spidey]

people who j walk and make traffic stop for them deserve to get hit... innocent bystanders, not so much.. RIP.

[Culverin]

i'm going to withhold judgement ...
because ppl in this city are really retarded when crossing the roads.

I'm not withholding judgment.
If you're not guilty, you don't take off like a bitch.

[EmperorIS]

From the article...:

oh i'm talking in general ... kinda of topic from this article sorry

[Preemo]

No judgements until they catch the fucker ...

But I bet the driver was hiding the fact he/she was texting and not fully paying attention to the road.

Or they forgot their fucking glasses at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dangonay]

Fucking rights you can pass judgement. How many hit and runs have been discussed on RS over the years? And how many of those fucks took off because they had something to hide? All of them. There's never been a hit and run I can recall where after the fact a legitimate excuse was given as to why they ran. Therefore, I'm going to call a spade a spade and say this fucker ran simply to avoid more serious consequences (like being found intoxicated at the scene).
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[twitchyzero]

hope the driver turns him/herself in...how can you live knowing you killed 2 innocent lives..one of which was a good samaritan

[1exotic]

hope the driver turns him/herself in...how can you live knowing you killed 2 innocent lives..one of which was a good samaritan

easy for you to say.

but at the sametime how does it feel for the driver to turn himself in knowing he'll be locked up in prison for most of his life... deserves it 100% but hard for him to do that... and because of that he won't turn himself in.

[TheKingdom2000]

^i don't think he'll get life or anything close to that.
probably 5 years with good behavior?

Though, I could be wrong.

[Bonka]

^ ^ ^

This is Canada, it'll be a light sentence in the grand scheme of things.

Its instances like these that really show the true colour of a person.

[flagella]

^i don't think he'll get life or anything close to that.
probably 5 years with good behavior?

Though, I could be wrong.

It doesn't matter. The chance of you having a bright future til death is minimal after spending years of your time in jail. Shitty record plus years of absence from workforce. No way am I trying to condone what he's done, but the mistake he's made could've been from anyone on this forum seriously.

RIP and I really do hope the guy turns himself in.

[dangonay]

easy for you to say.

but at the sametime how does it feel for the driver to turn himself in knowing he'll be locked up in prison for most of his life... deserves it 100% but hard for him to do that... and because of that he won't turn himself in.

Nobody ever goes to jail for killing someone in an automobile accident. People die in car crashes all the time - it's just a fact of life. A person was killed in an accident at Christmas close to my place - the person driving the other car stayed at the scene and waited for the police. When it was all finished, nobody went to jail. After all it was an accident.

Now if you have an accident and you were drunk, driving 200 km/h, or it's road rage/assault then that's a different story.

People usually run when they're drunk. If the cops pick you up at home a short time later and you're plastered, there's no way for them to know if you were drunk while driving, or got drunk after the accident. So the most they can get you on is leaving the scene or possibly negligence causing death.

[quasi]

The guy was probably drunk or it was a stolen car. Like Dagonay said if you wern't doing anything illegal you'd be a fucking retard to run as nothing will happen you except maybe some tickets.

[Jegz]

RIP

[snowball]

The guy was probably drunk or it was a stolen car. Like Dagonay said if you wern't doing anything illegal you'd be a fucking retard to run as nothing will happen you except maybe some tickets.

true that, if it was really an accident, maybe the driver just didnt see them on the edge of the road, one could at least stop, and offer some assistance, but to just drive off? cowardly.

[jack3d]

Nobody ever goes to jail for killing someone in an automobile accident. People die in car crashes all the time - it's just a fact of life. A person was killed in an accident at Christmas close to my place - the person driving the other car stayed at the scene and waited for the police. When it was all finished, nobody went to jail. After all it was an accident.

Now if you have an accident and you were drunk, driving 200 km/h, or it's road rage/assault then that's a different story.

People usually run when they're drunk. If the cops pick you up at home a short time later and you're plastered, there's no way for them to know if you were drunk while driving, or got drunk after the accident. So the most they can get you on is leaving the scene or possibly negligence causing death.

He may not have gotten jail time for running the person over, but the fact that he ran away and is avoiding the police will probably put him in jail

[Bonjour43MA]

RIP... espeically the good Samaritan that stopped to help - talk about wrong place at the wrong time. sigh.

The driver is a douche bag for running away... just turn yourself in buddy cuz you'll get caught sooner or later.

[terkan]

They got him.
COQUITLAM (NEWS1130) - A 37-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a deadly hit and run accident that killed two women. One of the women was a Good Samaritan and mother of four children.

The accident happened near the intersection of Lougheed Highway and Pitt River Road around 12:30 a.m. Saturday. An SUV carrying a man and woman hit a concrete barrier.

That's when a couple of Good Samaritans stopped to help. A woman from each car got out to look at the crunched vehicle and that's when someone driving a White Jeep Grand Cherokee sideswiped both women, killing them instantly.

The man involved in the initial crash was taken to hospital with a serious leg injury. Police say the husband of the Good Samaritan saw his wife get hit and killed.

No word on what charges the man is facing. He's expected in Port Coquitlam court on Monday afternoon.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/186727--arrest-made-in-coquitlam-hit-and-run-case

[SlowRider]

ok so from what i read....a car with a woman and her boyfriend got into a minor accident....then a passerby stop to assist them...another couple...so one of the woman who came to assist was talking to the woman driver that was in the accident and some person comes along and plows into them both ! killing both woman...leaving both husband and boyfriend of the woman alive ??

dam i would be pretty upset ....

[white_guilt]

They got him.


http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/186727--arrest-made-in-coquitlam-hit-and-run-case

mother of four children?? RIP lady. I hope the coward who did this rots in prison- but knowing our justice system, he will probably get a ticket and 30 minutes of community service.

[SDU]

There is a bunch of ppl on the lougheed hwy and pitt river rd with candles lit up right now

RIP
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[Aetios]

Hmm...white Jeep Grand Cherokee hey... This reminds me of somthing I saw in Surrey about 3 weeks ago. I was driving behind a guy in a white Grand Cherokee that was swerving quite erratically down 96 ave towards King George Hwy. He went up on the curb not once but 3-4 times, as well he kept swerving across the center line repeatedly. At first I thought the guy was having a seizure or a stroke but he kept on down the street like this for a while so it seemed like he was intoxicated more than anything. Regardless, I called 911 to report his car because I didn't want him hurting anybody around him. I followed him until he turned right onto King George Hwy, and I headed straight. I wanted to follow him so I could be a witness if anything did happen, but the 911 operater told me not to. For all I know, he might have gotten home before the police could pull him over. I can't help but wonder if it could be the same car.

[Soundy]

There is a bunch of ppl on the lougheed hwy and pitt river rd with candles lit up right now

RIP
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This shit drives me nuts... it's only a matter of time until someone is killed at one of these "roadside memorials".

[FRStan]

R.I.P.

[fliptuner]

If the driver of the Cherokee actually stole it (not the owner just saying it was stolen to avoid getting busted), could he be charged with vehicular manslaughter because he was in the process of a criminal act when he killed those women?

Or at the very least, driving without due care and attention causing death and leaving the scene of an accident?

[StaxBundlez]

terrible.

[Razor Ramon HG]

They got him.


http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/186727--arrest-made-in-coquitlam-hit-and-run-case

Yeah, supposedly he turned himself in.

[fliptuner]

Just grabbed a bite across the street fromt the courthouse and media was already there.

Really sad, sad story. Reading about the good samaritan, she would always help out with the neighborhood kids and really tried to do her part to better the community - helping people in need was just in her nature. Her neighbors, grown men, are reduced to tears when asked about her.

second vid:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/02/20/bc-coquitlam-fatal-arrest.html

[Glove]

I dont think I could live with myself if I ran,

the possibility of saving their lives by staying with them calling an ambulance far outweighs going to jail,

atleast youd have a clear conscience in prison.


But on the other hand,

what if you have a family to feed, and you just have way too much to lose by getting caught,

would your starving family outweigh strangers lives?

fuck I just hope I am NEVER in that situation.

[Soundy]

But on the other hand,

what if you have a family to feed, and you just have way too much to lose by getting caught,

would your starving family outweigh strangers lives?

fuck I just hope I am NEVER in that situation.

Simple way to avoid it: don't drive like a fucktard. Speed limit is 60 in that area, what do you want to bet the guy was doing at least 80?

[fliptuner]

If a regular guy just hit them by accident because he got cut off or the roads were slippery or whatever and he stayed, he'd end up getting questioned by the police, paying an ICBC detuctible and maybe a ticket.

I'd like to think most people, as much as they would think they just fucked up, would want to stay and help and transfer information. It's not like he knew he killed anyone because the victims were on the other side of the vehicle he hit. The guilt of killing two innocent people would be his real punishment and he'd be out of the public eye in a week or so.

I still think there's a good chance this guy called his car in stolen after the accident to try to get off, or else he's a car theif and was in the act of a criminal offence when it happened. Either way he's a fucking weasel.

[fliptuner]

Suspect named and charged but didn't show up in court

http://www.theprovince.com/life/Anger+accused+Coquitlam+deaths+show+court/4321642/story.html

List of charges

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/02/21/bc-double-fatal-hit-run-court.html

I thought the initial reports said the suspect was driving a stolen vehicle?

[MG1]

No, but witnesses said he was speeding. It was more than just an accident. Both victims died instantly. It must have been pretty ugly.

[Soundy]

No reports ever stated it was a stolen vehicle.

The first reports I heard on the radio, before the Jeep was found, they speculated it might be a stolen vehicle and that's why the driver ran. Later when the Jeep was found, they said they didn't know whether it had been stolen, but that they had no reports to that effect.

[baggdis300]

condolences go out to the families.....


hopefully laws get changed and stricter punishments happen.

[Anjew]

there was talks in the radio about the hit and run laws getting stricter...

[jpark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9sVW5wYKQg

[slammer111]

Lorraine Cruz used to work at my best friend's (he was the manager) coffee joint. Met her a few times back tha day and even went clubbing with her once. She was a really nice girl. Small world. My friend was pretty bummed out all day when he found out.

Can't even imagine what it would be like to be her bf's shoes right now. RIP.

[Soundy]

condolences go out to the families.....


hopefully laws get changed and stricter punishments happen.

As with so much else, they need to actually enforce the laws they already have before worrying about making them stricter.

[wasabisashimi]

what is the visibility around that area at the time of crash, never been there myself. It is indeed a tragedy (wrong place and wrong time).

[optiblue]

RIP, I hope the suspect never drives again.

[FI-Z33]

my brother was one of the officers who worked on this case..he was pretty sad and overwhelmed when he came home...

he went to the hospital with the injured victim and lets just say it was not a pretty sight...:(

RIP.

[fliptuner]

Lorraine Cruz used to work at my best friend's (he was the manager) coffee joint. Met her a few times back tha day and even went clubbing with her once. She was a really nice girl. Small world. My friend was pretty bummed out all day when he found out.

Can't even imagine what it would be like to be her bf's shoes right now. RIP.

When I read her name I thought it was a girl I used to hang out with. Same first and last names, apparently different spellings and both are nurses. Scared the shit out of me. I had to look up pics of this girl to make sure.

[Psykopathik]

what is the visibility around that area at the time of crash, never been there myself. It is indeed a tragedy (wrong place and wrong time).

that area is a "T" in the road. Pitt River road ends there. my guess is the Cherokee tried to initial D the corner and would have slammed into that same are himself but someone else crashed first.

most likely drunk and ran to avoid a DUI charge on top of everything else.

the fact he ran means he has no compassion for the people he may have injured or killed (in this case killed), knew what he did was wrong and tried to avoid punishment.

to him avoiding punishment outweighed the lives of two people. what if they weren't dead and could have lived if he had tried to assist? that just shows what his morals are like.

Fucking cunt. accident or not, he deserves to die.