[Manic!]

BYU is ranked # 3 in the US.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030401742.html


Brandon Davies suspended from BYU basketball team for honor code violation



BYU basketball player Brandon Davies was suspended for violating the school's honor code. As Cindy Boren reported:

At other schools, Brandon Davies might have been high fived. At Brigham Young University, he was suspended from the nation's third-ranked basketball team because he admitted to violating the school's honor code by having sexual relations with his girlfriend.

An honor code is an honor code and the one at BYU, a private school affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, requires students to "live a chaste and virtuous life." Students are also required to be honest; abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee and substance abuse; and attend church regularly. Davies will be suspended from the team for the rest of the season and, according to BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins, his future at the school has yet to be determined.

"Everybody who comes to BYU, every student if they're an athlete or not an athlete, they make a commitment when they come," BYU Coach Dave Rose said, adding that he thought Davies would play again for the team. "A lot of people try to judge if this is right or wrong, but it's a commitment they make. It's not about right or wrong. It's about commitment."

While many thought the penalty harsh, Tracee Hamilton explained that breaking the rules will always have consequences:

Of course, I never agreed to follow these rules, then or now. Sophomore forward Brandon Davies did, as do all students who attend BYU. Once you agree to follow the rules and you don't, you suffer the consequences. The consequences lesson is one of those important life lessons that don't appear on a college syllabus.

Davies's consequences are particularly painful, and not just for Davies: He has been kicked off the basketball team for the rest of the season - and what a season it was shaping up to be. The Cougars were ranked No. 3 in the country and in the running for a No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Without Davies, they lost at home Wednesday night to unranked New Mexico, and the dream of a top seed is over.

Davies apparently violated the second rule by having premarital sex with his girlfriend, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. That falls under the "chaste and virtuous life" rule, which is sufficiently vague enough to cover a multitude of sins.

As On Faith panelist Michael Otterson observed, it is admirable that BYU stuck to its principles:

It was interesting to read about another BYU athlete's reaction to all of this. Former BYU football star Reno Mahe suffered a similar tough lesson in 1998 after an honor code violation got him dropped from the football program.

"I've always shared this with people, that it was probably one of the best things that had happened to me," he told the Deseret News in Salt Lake City. "I appreciate what BYU did to me. I appreciate the honor code and what it stands for. I appreciate that they enforce it. You get a lot of schools that say they have codes, but I don't think anyone enforces it like BYU does.... It's a great school. It's a one-of-a-kind school." As everyone knows, Reno went back to BYU and ended up playing in the NFL.

BYU is a one-of-a-kind school. But it's not the only school with principles or honor codes. And wouldn't it be a good thing if such principles and standards were so well and routinely enthroned that when they were applied in cases of honor code violations, they didn't generate coast to coast publicity.

[RevYouUp]

lolreligion

[CanadaGoose]

OMG PRE-MARITAL SEX!?! HE'S DEAD TO ME NOW

WHAT WAS HE THINKING!?!?!!!!

[spike_spiegel]

kicked off the collage team?

I guess he's just going to have to make collages at home from now on

[milkmilk101]

Attending a college is no differenec from going to jail imo. FML

[SpuGen]

Cat Collage.
http://www.shapecollage.com/collages/collage-heart.jpg

[Chronix]

awww he cant make any collages anymore...


sad face

[Liquid_o2]

I've done quite a bit of work in the Salt Lake City region and the people are really nice, but they truly stick to their religious beliefs. Up until a few years ago, they didn't really have any pubs downtown. I don't get it, but I respect it.

[Qmx323]

this girl i went to HS with is at that school, shes 20 and shes getting married LOL

[InvisibleSoul]

Protip:

Collage: a paste-up made by sticking together pieces of paper or photographs to form an artistic image

College: an institution of higher education created to educate and grant degrees

[Gumby]

Protip:

Collage: a paste-up made by sticking together pieces of paper or photographs to form an artistic image

College: an institution of higher education created to educate and grant degrees
You should also explain the difference between "of" and "off" :)

[alwaysideways]

this girl i went to HS with is at that school, shes 20 and shes getting married LOL

^ Cause she wants the cock! :fullofwin:

[hal0g0dv2]

haha that sucks

[Berzerker]

Protip:

Of: –preposition
1.
(used to indicate distance or direction from, separation, deprivation, etc.): within a mile of the church; south of Omaha; to be robbed of one's money.
2.
(used to indicate derivation, origin, or source): a man of good family; the plays of Shakespeare; a piece of cake.
3.
(used to indicate cause, motive, occasion, or reason): to die of hunger.
4.
(used to indicate material, component parts, substance, or contents): a dress of silk; an apartment of three rooms; a book of poems; a package of cheese.
5.
(used to indicate apposition or identity): Is that idiot of a salesman calling again?
6.
(used to indicate specific identity or a particular item within a category): the city of Chicago; thoughts of love.
7.
(used to indicate possession, connection, or association): the king of France; the property of the church.
8.
(used to indicate inclusion in a number, class, or whole): one of us.
9.
(used to indicate the objective relation, the object of the action noted by the preceding noun or the application of a verb or adjective): the ringing of bells; He writes her of home; I'm tired of working.
10.
(used to indicate reference or respect): There is talk of peace.
11.
(used to indicate qualities or attributes): an ambassador of remarkable tact.
12.
(used to indicate a specified time): They arrived of an evening.


Off: 1.
so as to be no longer supported or attached: This button is about to come off.
2.
so as to be no longer covering or enclosing: to take a hat off; to take the wrapping off.
3.
away from a place: to run off; to look off toward the west.
4.
away from a path, course, etc.; aside: This road branches off to Grove City.
5.
so as to be away or on one's way: to start off early; to cast off.
6.
away from what is considered normal, regular, standard, or the like: to go off on a tangent.
7.
from a charge or price: He took 10 percent off for all cash purchases.
8.
at a distance in space or future time: to back off a few feet; Summer is only a week off.
9.
out of operation or effective existence: Turn the lights off.
10.
into operation or action: The alarm goes off at noon.
11.
so as to interrupt continuity or cause discontinuance: Negotiations have been broken off.
12.
in absence from work, service, a job, etc.: two days off at Christmas.
13.
completely; utterly: to kill off all the inhabitants.
14.
with prompt or ready performance: to dash a letter off.
15.
to fulfillment, or into execution or effect: The contest came off on the appointed day.
16.
into nonexistence or nothingness: My headache passed off soon.

Berz out.

[Chronix]

cool story bro

[jaebomb]

Goood thing it wasn't jimmer fredette or byu wud be ovvvvver
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[Senna4ever]

I only clicked this thread because I was curious as to what being "kicked of a collage team" meant. :(

[geeknerd]

religion or not, he broke the rules that he agreed to follow. he got what he deserved.
cool story bro.

[6insomnia9]

loldouche^

rules are meant to be broken

[knight604]

religion before hoes :troll:

[gdoh]

religion or not, he broke the rules that he agreed to follow. he got what he deserved.
cool story bro.

umad cuz he gets pussy and you dont??

[Gh0stRider]

he fucked and got fucked over

[rsx]

I didn't know there was a collage league...

[Jayhall]

Who cares. He played on the third ranked team in the country, Im pretty sure there is a college somewhere in the country that wont give a fuck that this guy had sex and let him play for their team. Surely somewhere there is a college where the students are sexually active, right?

[Gary Oak]

lol i was like he wtf thats the stupidest shit ever school took him out of a collage

[geeknerd]

umad cuz he gets pussy and you dont??

my sexual activity is the same as yours. :)

it just seems stupid that there is a news article about a school enforcing its rules, regardless of how stupid the rule may be.

[Ikkaku]

Who cares. He played on the third ranked team in the country, Im pretty sure there is a college somewhere in the country that wont give a fuck that this guy had sex and let him play for their team. Surely somewhere there is a college where the students are sexually active, right?

Actually, with him being from BYU (a mormon based university) some religious students have the perk (I don't know if this is the right word) of having their tuitions paid by the school, but in return, having to go elsewhere to do their "mission" for a few years. The "mission" they are obligated to do is to knock on doors to tell the world about mormonism.

So, -if- he was heavily into the religion, the chances of him going to another school for sports is highly unlikely.

[Noir]

I've done quite a bit of work in the Salt Lake City region and the people are really nice, but they truly stick to their religious beliefs. Up until a few years ago, they didn't really have any pubs downtown. I don't get it, but I respect it.

Not a good enough reason - not a valid justification for respect.

This is just pre-marital sex. Homosexuality is an even bigger religious taboo. Are they propagating that gay people can't play team basketball? or is unwelcome?

They're not really nice when nice is just limited to "as long as you share their views or conform to their societal standards".

[jaebomb]

^well tim hardaway said he doesn't want any gay players on his team
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[Benz_05TSX]

I clicked this thread because I expected pictures... or videos??

[Mancini]

loldouche^

rules are meant to be broken

The downside is that penalties are meant to be enforced.

[geeknerd]

^^well it is a private school + religious. gay people = unwelcome. unless the gays realize that being gay is wrong (on religious terms) and want to change their lifestyle, then maybe they will be accepted.

[Liquid_o2]

Not a good enough reason - not a valid justification for respect.

This is just pre-marital sex. Homosexuality is an even bigger religious taboo. Are they propagating that gay people can't play team basketball? or is unwelcome?

They're not really nice when nice is just limited to "as long as you share their views or conform to their societal standards".

I would disagree. Just because you don't agree with people's outlook and views on life, you can still respect them.

[Noir]

I would disagree. Just because you don't agree with people's outlook and views on life, you can still respect them.

discrimination by sexual orientation is the same as discrimination by ethnicity no? (based on both being discriminations of nature and not of choice.)

So on a non-religious analogy - do I have to respect racists despite strong disagreements with their views on life?

[GLOW]

it just seems stupid that there is a news article about a school enforcing its rules

that pretty much sums it up right here.

[roflwaffle604]

Goood thing it wasn't jimmer fredette or byu wud be ovvvvver
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^ this

lol when i read the title i was like omg jimmerrrrr

[Ikkaku]

discrimination by sexual orientation is the same as discrimination by ethnicity no? (based on both being discriminations of nature and not of choice.)

So on a non-religious analogy - do I have to respect racists despite strong disagreements with their views on life?

nobody told YOU to respect anything, the other guy was stating that HE is choosing to respect certain aspects of it.

[bloodmack]

ranked 3rd in basketball collage? :troll:

[BlackZRoadster]

Is OP hiding from this thread now lol

maybe hes gotta do a collage for college hw

[PiuYi]

Attending a college is no differenec from going to jail imo. FML

lolwut

[Drow]

imo it does sound stupid but a committment is a committment

[Majestic12]

discrimination by sexual orientation is the same as discrimination by ethnicity no? (based on both being discriminations of nature and not of choice.)

So on a non-religious analogy - do I have to respect racists despite strong disagreements with their views on life?

To reasonable people yes, but I think a lot of these fundamentalists are hell-bent on believing that sexual orientation is a choice and can be beaten/brainwashed out of people.

[Stormspirit]

this girl i went to HS with is at that school, shes 20 and shes getting married LOL

did she go to richmond high?

[classified]

lol this is crazy for this day and age with colleges being whore houses

[Mr.Money]

lol white people.

[2 n r]

lol bring 'em young university

[geeknerd]

To reasonable people yes, but I think a lot of these fundamentalists are hell-bent on believing that sexual orientation is a choice and can be beaten/brainwashed out of people.

well religion 'OKs' being gay as long as u believe that its wrong and repent for it.

[will068]

well religion 'OKs' being gay as long as u believe that its wrong and repent for it.

Depends which religion. The misconception in Catholicism is that homosexuality is wrong - it is not. Homosexual activity is considered a sin since it falls under the premarital sex category.

Like some Islam radicals, we also have Christian zealots who interpret the contents of the Bible to follow their own hateful agenda ( ie. being homosexual is a sin ).



Anyways, back on topic. I would like to know who ratted this guy out. Secondly, do you know how hard it is to be a Div 1 ball player and avoid all the women chasing you ?

Lastly, he knew what he signed up for. Sadly, the school enforced it. Perhaps if he was a 20 ppg /10 rpg player, the school would turn the blind eye (Just like how other schools attract superstar athletes by ignoring how low the athlete's grades are).

[spoon.ek9]

ranked 3rd in basketball collage? :troll:

http://1heckofaguy.com/wp-content/photos/bball%20collage.jpg

:troll:

[ieuler]

Attending a college is no differenec from going to jail imo. FML

i've heard some dim witted comments over the years... but damn son, you deserve the gold in this category

[murmur]

this girl i went to HS with is at that school, shes 20 and shes getting married LOL
my neighbour married when she was 19
now she has a kid
makes me feel so old lol

[acrophobia]

Kind of ironic since Brigham Young was a polygamist with 55 wives and 56 children.

[alwaysideways]

Attending a college is no differenec from going to jail imo. FML

Ya a jail full of hot horny women.... :fullofwin:

[t8v6]

did she go to richmond high?

lolll was going to ask the same. guess we all know the same person? xD
but yea BYU's code of honor is pretty strict lol. there's a whooolllleee list of shit you can't do. they even have a dress code :S

[OhNoes]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZsbYxs1u-sI
Punishing a college student for having sex is like punishing a shark for eating surfers!

Sorry it's been a while since I went on RS =_=.. I forgot how to upload videos.

[falcon]

Who cares. He played on the third ranked team in the country, Im pretty sure there is a college somewhere in the country that wont give a fuck that this guy had sex and let him play for their team. Surely somewhere there is a college where the students are sexually active, right?

You'd be suprised. A lot of high level college teams prohibit sexual activity during if not season play at least playoffs.

And who really cares, I don't see why this is news. Guy goes to a religious school, which he applied to or accepted a scholarship to, willfully joined knowing the rules and he breaks the rules. What did he think was going to happen? IMO he is just trying to milk it so some other school picks him up.

[ImpactZ]

Manic's a virgin

[Wongtouski]

Not a good enough reason - not a valid justification for respect.

This is just pre-marital sex. Homosexuality is an even bigger religious taboo. Are they propagating that gay people can't play team basketball? or is unwelcome?

They're not really nice when nice is just limited to "as long as you share their views or conform to their societal standards".

Well, this IS a mormon school.......I'm like 10mins into the BS Report (Bill Simmons), he has Michael Smith on an ex-celts player and BYU grad..........turns out they have to go on a 2 year mission on top of their degrees!