[instantneedles]

What is the purpose of life to you? Shallow thoughts are welcome, but im interested to listen to some really deep thoughts....

[TOS'd]

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[liu13]

if you believe in god then it's a spiritual experience

if u dont, then there is no purpose

[instantneedles]

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u no dick?

[instantneedles]

if you believe in god then it's a spiritual experience

if u dont, then there is no purpose

so is life really just a dream? and r u basically saying that u live life just to get it over with?

[instantneedles]

why do we humans try so hard in life? what motivates us to become olympic level athletes, to become rich businessmen, to become brilliant scientists that aim to change the world? in fact, why do they aim to change the world when they know that they themselves will die, and those they change the world for, will also die? isn't life all just a dream?

there is no point to conflict, everytime i engage in one, i ask myself, why do i even care? what is the point of caring so much, in the end, i will just die.....

[cliffhanger33]

if you understand maslow's hierarchy of needs, it shows the level of how ppl obtain what satisfies them, with the largest and most fundamental levels of needs at the bottom, and highest level is self- actualization. Self-actualization is like reaching the person's full potential is and realizing that potential. People in life aim for self-actualization after going through each level, it takes a while to hit that highest level, some never do. Idk, i guess thats a way of seeing why people have a purpose in life.
Some have religious purpose, to live life according to their values and be rewarded when they die, coz life is short and the the after life may be longer and eternal, depending on what you believe in.

[instantneedles]

if you understand maslow's hierarchy of needs, it shows the level of how ppl obtain what satisfies them, with the largest and most fundamental levels of needs at the bottom, and highest level is self- actualization. Self-actualization is like reaching the person's full potential is and realizing that potential. People in life aim for self-actualization after going through each level, it takes a while to hit that highest level, some never do. Idk, i guess thats a way of seeing why people have a purpose in life.
Some have religious purpose, to live life according to their values and be rewarded when they die, coz life is short and the the after life may be longer and eternal, depending on what you believe in.

potential for what? potential to achieve something in a society that will perish as you yourself will?

imo, no offence at all to those in religious practise

but religion is just to secure your mind, cus you know very well deep down that you will die, and when you do, you will remain forever locked.....locked into what?

locked into nothing.....true emptiness.....
maybe its cus i am still young... but what i know to be true is that, what separates an adult from an child, is their understanding of their potential....

and yet i am still searching for it....because i do not see it.

[Groot]

what is the purpose of life?

fuck bitches, get money.:whistle:

[instantneedles]

what is the purpose of life?

fuck bitches, get money.:whistle:

:fullofwin:

[Newspeak]

Personally, my intensive studies of science and mathematics have nurtured the idea of a time loop: time is like a racetrack, eventually "looping" back to its beginning after reaching its end. If the world is limitless and time restarts itself repeatedly, why can't humans renew their existence along with the renewal of time?

anyways, that's rather abstract. from a more practical sense, live life because it's a gift you've been given. you can either ponder endlessly about the meaning of life and drown in a pool of utter indifference, or you can influence the world with this limited time you've be granted on earth. even if my theories about time are incorrect, and time does infact flow perpetually forward without the capabilities of restarting, doesn't it feel good to set goals and to achieve them? (as cliffhanger put it: "realizing human potential"). doesn't it feel good to make a difference? to put a smile on a child's face, or knowing that one life breathed easier because of your own existence? To make so much bacon that you blow your nose with hundred dollar bills and sleep on the skin of a siberian tiger? to have your face on the cover of Time Magazine? don't (atleast some of) these achievements bless you with a feeling of fulfillment?

I understand the origins of your curiousity since I had those identical thoughts as a teenager. But remember, as of current technological abilities, the aging process cannot be reversed and ALL living organisms face an inevitable death. Being upset about death ain't gonna prevent it, so you might as well stay cheerful. On an endnote, read some books about existentialism; it might answer some of your questions

[guddagudd]

I feel like most people in this world, perhaps all, but I'm just going to say most for now, do things because they enjoy it. We're all psychological egoists as well as psychological hedonists. Think about the last time you did something nice. Did you do it because it ultimately benefited you?

So I think the purpose of life is to just do your thing, to put it simply. Do whatever makes you happy.

[instantneedles]

Personally, my intensive studies of science and mathematics have nurtured the idea of a time loop: time is like a racetrack, eventually "looping" back to its beginning after reaching its end. If the world is limitless and time restarts itself repeatedly, why can't humans renew their existence along with the renewal of time?

anyways, that's rather abstract. from a more practical sense, live life because it's a gift you've been given. you can either ponder endlessly about the meaning of life and drown in a pool of utter indifference, or you can influence the world with this limited time you've be granted on earth. even if my theories about time are incorrect, and time does infact flow perpetually forward without the capabilities of restarting, doesn't it feel good to set goals and to achieve them? (as cliffhanger put it: "realizing human potential"). doesn't it feel good to make a difference? to put a smile on a child's face, or knowing that one life breathed easier because of your own existence? To make so much bacon that you blow your nose with hundred dollar bills and sleep on the skin of a siberian tiger? to have your face on the cover of Time Magazine? don't (atleast some of) these achievements bless you with a feeling of fulfillment?

I understand the origins of your curiousity since I had those identical thoughts as a teenager. But remember, as of current technological abilities, the aging process cannot be reversed and ALL living organisms face an inevitable death. Being upset about death ain't gonna prevent it, so you might as well stay cheerful. On an endnote, read some books about existentialism; it might answer some of your questions

even if life renews itself, you wouldn't really know. because the life you live right now will be gone along with the experiences that go with it. I know for a fact that as of right now, I have no trace of having experienced a previous life, no recall of it whatsoever. All I do know, is that I am living the life I have right now, and the only experiences I recall are the ones in this life-time.

and, so i achieve goals, but for what purpose? for self-satisfaction? what satisfaction? satisfaction that something has completed but will just die away anyway? And feel good? what is the point of feeling good? so we can feel bad afterward, and then look for something else to "achieve potential?" i know how ppl say incredible things are ones that live even after you die. but you wouldn't know would you? you're dead.

[instantneedles]

I feel like most people in this world, perhaps all, but I'm just going to say most for now, do things because they enjoy it. We're all psychological egoists as well as psychological hedonists. Think about the last time you did something nice. Did you do it because it ultimately benefited you?

So I think the purpose of life is to just do your thing, to put it simply. Do whatever makes you happy.

There are certain things that I aim for in life...however, whenever I root it to the very basics... i still don't know why I aim for it. The things that i aim for seem too little or minute for me to aim for. On the other hand, I don't bother to aim too big not because I have low self-esteem, but because I simply don't know what the point of it really is....

[instantneedles]

Many people go depressed and sad upon acknowledgement of their death. I on the other hand, feel prepared and ready to face it, because with it, i have learned to cope with the many challenges in my life. You can say that, by embracing my death, I have opened new paths for myself. Death itself has changed my concept of time.

[Newspeak]

There are certain things that I aim for in life...however, whenever I root it to the very basics... i still don't know why I aim for it. The things that i aim for seem too little or minute for me to aim for. On the other hand, I don't bother to aim too big not because I have low self-esteem, but because I simply don't know what the point of it really is....

The point is so you're not lying on your death bed thinking "I wish I accomplished this in my life"

[Newspeak]

even if life renews itself, you wouldn't really know. because the life you live right now will be gone along with the experiences that go with it. I know for a fact that as of right now, I have no trace of having experienced a previous life, no recall of it whatsoever. All I do know, is that I am living the life I have right now, and the only experiences I recall are the ones in this life-time.

If time is undergoing it's first cycle, then no: you won't recall any past experiences. This however, by no means omits the possibilities of future experiences you may encouter as time commences its looping process.


and, so i achieve goals, but for what purpose? for self-satisfaction? what satisfaction? satisfaction that something has completed but will just die away anyway? And feel good? what is the point of feeling good? so we can feel bad afterward, and then look for something else to "achieve potential?" i know how ppl say incredible things are ones that live even after you die. but you wouldn't know would you? you're dead.

the majority of today's population choose to idolize celebrities: movie stars, athletes, singers, etc etc. however, i believe these "celebrities" are of little significance to human history. my heroes are the scientists, philosophers, and revolutionaries who dared to disobey convention and thus steered society in their own desired paths (for better or for worse). Plato, Aristotle, Bacon, Hitler, Euclid, Newton, Einstein, Bacon, Kant, Riemann, Napolean... This list goes on and on and on. These people weren't defined by their looks, or their vertical leap. Nor were they defined by their party habits or the cars they drove. No, these extraordinary figures of mankind are defined by their ideas. Though the conventional definition of death pertains to the physical body, in my mind, none of these influential figures have and will ever die; they are forever preserved in their respective ideas, and live in the mind of each and every single human being.

[liu13]

Personally, my intensive studies of science and mathematics have nurtured the idea of a time loop: time is like a racetrack, eventually "looping" back to its beginning after reaching its end. If the world is limitless and time restarts itself repeatedly, why can't humans renew their existence along with the renewal of time?

anyways, that's rather abstract. from a more practical sense, live life because it's a gift you've been given. you can either ponder endlessly about the meaning of life and drown in a pool of utter indifference, or you can influence the world with this limited time you've be granted on earth. even if my theories about time are incorrect, and time does infact flow perpetually forward without the capabilities of restarting, doesn't it feel good to set goals and to achieve them? (as cliffhanger put it: "realizing human potential"). doesn't it feel good to make a difference? to put a smile on a child's face, or knowing that one life breathed easier because of your own existence? To make so much bacon that you blow your nose with hundred dollar bills and sleep on the skin of a siberian tiger? to have your face on the cover of Time Magazine? don't (atleast some of) these achievements bless you with a feeling of fulfillment?

I understand the origins of your curiousity since I had those identical thoughts as a teenager. But remember, as of current technological abilities, the aging process cannot be reversed and ALL living organisms face an inevitable death. Being upset about death ain't gonna prevent it, so you might as well stay cheerful. On an endnote, read some books about existentialism; it might answer some of your questions

that wont be true in the near future, perfect regeneration can be attained, if you read Time Magazine this year, one of the covers is the article of 2045 where man becomes immortal

[instantneedles]

that wont be true in the near future, perfect regeneration can be attained, if you read Time Magazine this year, one of the covers is the article of 2045 where man becomes immortal

no way bro.....


and in the case that one does become immortal...views on life would change dramatically and i would actually be scared...but then again... that won't happen to me...because i will perish

[instantneedles]

The point is so you're not lying on your death bed thinking "I wish I accomplished this in my life"

well fuck that... that wont be happening on my death bed....
i have and will always continue to believe this way

i make my decisions and don't look back...

maybe because i haven't had enough experiences for me to be able to look back on.... but fuck, i don't give a shit...things happen because they happen. i do things because i do it.

Yes, i have had my regrets, not finishing my piano/violin when i was at the peak of learning it, not finishing continuing on with certain things when i was at a point where i could have gone very far with it....
but as i thot more, so what if i had learned these things? would i have been happier now if i had not quit?

No, because I did it for the reasons I had, and by respecting it, I did what was happy for me... If i don't wanna do shit, i won't do it...if i wish to indulge in something, by all means i will.....

[liu13]

no way bro.....


and in the case that one does become immortal...views on life would change dramatically and i would actually be scared...but then again... that won't happen to me...because i will perish

if you live long enough for the technology to be completed, and then another 10-15 years till it's affordable who knows

[instantneedles]

If time is undergoing it's first cycle, then no: you won't recall any past experiences. This however, by no means omits the possibilities of future experiences you may encouter as time commences its looping process.




the majority of today's population choose to idolize celebrities: movie stars, athletes, singers, etc etc. however, i believe these "celebrities" are of little significance to human history. my heroes are the scientists, philosophers, and revolutionaries who dared to disobey convention and thus steered society in their own desired paths (for better or for worse). Plato, Aristotle, Bacon, Hitler, Euclid, Newton, Einstein, Bacon, Kant, Riemann, Napolean... This list goes on and on and on. These people weren't defined by their looks, or their vertical leap. Nor were they defined by their party habits or the cars they drove. No, these extraordinary figures of mankind are defined by their ideas. Though the conventional definition of death pertains to the physical body, in my mind, none of these influential figures have and will ever die; they are forever preserved in their respective ideas, and live in the mind of each and every single human being.

but then again, so what if these scientists contribute to the ideas of every human? it will become a part of their lives... but does it really affect them in a positive or negative way? if life really is a loop, there is no need for such technological improvement, or ways to get better at things in the world since life is a loop....

in fact, the figures that brought influential changes are the ones that have brought more dramatic pain to the human race.... in respects to yin and yang, with increasing advantages, there will be increasing disadvantages

[Newspeak]

that wont be true in the near future, perfect regeneration can be attained, if you read Time Magazine this year, one of the covers is the article of 2045 where man becomes immortal

hahahahha im an avid reader and enthusiast of Time, and im my opinion that article was complete bullshit. they called it the "singularity" or something? i cant see it happening within 35 years, no freakin way lol

[Newspeak]

but then again, so what if these scientists contribute to the ideas of every human? it will become a part of their lives... but does it really affect them in a positive or negative way? if life really is a loop, there is no need for such technological improvement, or ways to get better at things in the world since life is a loop....

in fact, the figures that brought influential changes are the ones that have brought more dramatic pain to the human race.... in respects to yin and yang, with increasing advantages, there will be increasing disadvantages

i would disagree on that one. technology's primary intent is to improve the quality of life for human beings. i would much rather be sitting on my ass writing documents, traveling from continent to continent for a living than to be placed in a nomadic tribe of wild hunters, struggling on a daily basis to feed my wife, kid, and fellow tribemembers.

[instantneedles]

its bullshit.... but not entirely. I do believe that man will one day become immortal, and when it does, the world will refresh to the start of caveman. We have come a long way since then, and I believe that this will put a stop to the loop of time and in turn, end the suffering of man.

[instantneedles]

i would disagree on that one. technology's primary intent is to better the life of human beings. i would much rather be sitting on my ass writing documents, traveling from continent to continent for a living than to be placed in a nomadic tribe of wild hunters, struggling on a daily basis to feed my wife, kid, and fellow tribemembers.

Technology will forever strive to better the life of human beings, but in honest fact, it will never reach it.. There will always be holes in technology that will not benefit, but destroy. What you can say however, is that the human mind is geared to explore and to seek for new things...... it is a constant venture into the unknown.....

[Newspeak]

its bullshit.... but not entirely. I do believe that man will one day become immortal, and when it does, the world will refresh to the start of caveman. We have come a long way since then, and I believe that this will put a stop to the loop of time and in turn, end the suffering of man.

man has been bestowed with the gift of reason, and i agree that it's both our most valuable and despicable gift. I quote from J.S. Mills: "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are of a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question. The other party to the comparison knows both sides" I both agree and disagree with this particular statement. I view my mind and its intellect as my most valuable gift: the satisfaction i obtain when eating (pig) is mightily overwhelemed in comparison to the satisfaction gained from the comprehension of a beautiful idea (socrates). unfortunately, the intellect of man also serves as the source of the most horrid pain in existence: that of which lives in the thoughts. sometimes, these thoughts are so painful that it leads a human being into ending their own lives. like you said, there's always a yin to a yang. on a sidenote, the words in your quote which i have bolded remind me intensely of 2 literary works: frankenstein (fantastic read, one of my all time favorites) and paradise lost (tough to understand, but a very satisfying read if you're willing to further research the verses while reading). you should read em if you ever get a chance (especially frankenstein!)

[Newspeak]

Technology will forever strive to better the life of human beings, but in honest fact, it will never reach it.. There will always be holes in technology that will not benefit, but destroy. What you can say however, is that the human mind is geared to explore and to seek for new things...... it is a constant venture into the unknown.....

True, but benefits often outweigh the liabilities.

[liu13]

holes in technology ? what do you mean by that, technology is not technology if its not perfect, a machine is useless if one piece is missing

[Newspeak]

There's no such thing as a "perfect" machine. For one, machines arn't 100% power efficient. A lot of the energy you input into a machine is transformed into undesirable forms of energy (most notably sound and heat). For example, if 100J of electrical energy is transferred into a lightbulb, only a fraction of the initial 100J (maybe 20 J) is transformed into light energy. The other 80J turn into heat: heat is undesirable since the function of a lightbulb is to provide light, not heat: thus, heat is "undesirable" in this particular context.

[liu13]

the bicycle is perfect, solar power is perfect, dams are perfect

pulleys are perfect too

anyways i wouldnt want to live in a world without technology

[Newspeak]

the bicycle is perfect, solar power is perfect, dams are perfect

pulleys are perfect too

anyways i wouldnt want to live in a world without technology

lol i strongly disagree but i'll respect your opinions nonetheless

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[instantneedles]

the bicycle is perfect, solar power is perfect, dams are perfect

pulleys are perfect too

anyways i wouldnt want to live in a world without technology


dont know specifically about the faults of solar power and dams, but im sure there are some that exist

the vulnerability of the bicycle allows it to be crashed by cars

[liu13]

the bicycle and pulley are 100% efficient machines

the vulnerability of anything is that someone with a sniper rifle takes your head off, wtf is your logic here?

i dont get why you are judging others as idiots when its pure fun speculation on the hypothetical

anyways back on topic

[instantneedles]

the bicycle and pulley are 100% efficient machines

the vulnerability of anything is that someone with a sniper rifle takes your head off, wtf is your logic here?

i dont get why you are judging others as idiots when its pure fun speculation on the hypothetical

anyways back on topic

never have judged anyone as idiots, just expressing my view on the topic.

there is no doubt that technology has had its flaws, my suggestion to one of the flaws may seem ridiculous, but reality is that there are many other flaws that will exist. yes, the bicycle has improved transportation, but on the contrary, it has increased the chances of humans getting crashed by cars. When the bicycle was invented, another source of death was created. Pedestrians can now ride on a bike instead of walking, and it may seem that the bicycle provides countless benefits to transportation. However, safety becomes an issue. Those that ride the bicycle could easily die when they are pedalling hard down a hill only to be stopped by a huge truck turning left. Was it possible that a pedestrian be hit the same way the cyclist did? perhaps. but simply put, the bicycle provided another alternative to death.

[instantneedles]

man has been bestowed with the gift of reason, and i agree that it's both our most valuable and despicable gift. I quote from J.S. Mills: "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are of a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question. The other party to the comparison knows both sides" I both agree and disagree with this particular statement. I view my mind and its intellect as my most valuable gift: the satisfaction i obtain when eating (pig) is mightily overwhelemed in comparison to the satisfaction gained from the comprehension of a beautiful idea (socrates). unfortunately, the intellect of man also serves as the source of the most horrid pain in existence: that of which lives in the thoughts. sometimes, these thoughts are so painful that it leads a human being into ending their own lives. like you said, there's always a yin to a yang. on a sidenote, the words in your quote which i have bolded remind me intensely of 2 literary works: frankenstein (fantastic read, one of my all time favorites) and paradise lost (tough to understand, but a very satisfying read if you're willing to further research the verses while reading). you should read em if you ever get a chance (especially frankenstein!)

in all respect, i believe that our ability to reason has come from our innate characteristic to survive. Along with technology, our ability to reason has also improved. All of which come down to survival. We live life because we are determined to finish it. In the end, perhaps there is no purpose? perhaps survival and the finishing of life is what it really is about.

One thing i know for sure is that while death gives many pessimistic views onto life, it has brought optimism to mine. in its light, i have gone through my experiences acknowledging the idea that any embarrasing, painful, happy, confusing, awkward situation will wipe away along with my life.

[Newspeak]

the bicycle and pulley are 100% efficient machines

the vulnerability of anything is that someone with a sniper rifle takes your head off, wtf is your logic here?

i dont get why you are judging others as idiots when its pure fun speculation on the hypothetical

anyways back on topic

bicycles have tires. tires produce friction as it scrapes the ground, thus creating "undesired" heat energy rather than the "desired" mechanical energy. so no, bicycles arn't 100% efficient and hence in my perspective, they're unperfect. i am not judging you as an idiot, all i'm doing is disagreeing with your comments and rebuttling with my own. i'm very curious as to why you perceive a bicycle as a perfect machine, please elaborate.

[XinLoiBby]

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