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03-21-2011, 05:09 PM
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| Truck Driver to Lose Job over Drunk Driving Laws
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A Port Coquitlam man expects to lose his job after feeling the weight of B.C.’s new drunk-driving laws.
Ken Prosser is, for now, employed as a truck driver for the City of Burnaby, but he’s not doing any driving. On Jan. 29 he was pulled over by police in Port Moody while off work. He refused to blow into a breathalyzer.
That decision earned him the same administrative punishment of a legally drunk driver who blows over .08: fines, fees, a 90-day licence suspension and a one-year, post-suspension requirement that any vehicle he drives be equipped with an ignition-interlock device.
The latter imposition has proved to be Prosser’s undoing. Interlock devices require an alcohol-free breath to allow the car to start. City of Burnaby officials aren’t keen to see any such devices on the 40 or so garbage, recycling or dump trucks Prosser might operate.
“The city has said straight up that we cannot allow these things to be stuck on our vehicles,” said Prosser, 38.
Fines and fees will end up costing around $5,000, and Prosser’s lost almost $7,000 in wages since he was immediately suspended from driving for 90 days after refusing to blow on the breathalyzer.
“I’m not trying to downplay the severity of drinking and driving,” Prosser said. “The penalties, I deserve it.”
But Prosser believes he has been unjustly hit with an extra punishment because of what he does for a living.
“I don’t even have a speeding ticket on my licence,” he said. “I’m being told now that I’m not going to have my job. I’m about to lose my career, my job, for a first-time person who was pulled over. The crime does not fit the punishment.”
Richmond lawyer David Baker, who specializes in drunk-driving cases, said a person in Prosser’s position cannot escape the consequences, including the ignition-interlock.
“You can’t fight any of this,” Baker said of the administrative sanctions enshrined in law last year, which have eliminated most drunk-driving criminal charges in favour of immediate penalties initiated by police at the roadside.
The Motor Vehicle Act specifies that the personal circumstances of people falling afoul of the law cannot be considered in relation to punishment, Baker said.
“The guy who drives for a living and who’s going to lose his house because he’s not going to make his mortgage payments, who’s going to lose his job, he can’t bring that up,” Baker said. “The statute does not allow the adjudicators to consider that.”
The City of Burnaby — which did not respond by deadline for comment — has said Prosser could keep his job if he were not required to use an interlock while working, said Rick Kotar, president of Prosser’s union, CUPE Local 23.
Moving Prosser into a labourer’s position for the year of his interlock requirement would open up a “Pandora’s box” for the city, Kotar said.
“There aren’t just a whole bunch of labouring jobs just hanging around,” Kotar said. “You do it for one guy, how many guys do you just slog into a labouring position if they lose their licence?
“He was hired as a driver. He’s unable to do his job as required, and that’s not through anybody’s fault but his own.”
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| I don't get what the guy's whining about. If you work with your hands you don't stick them in a blender on your free time. If you're a model you don't tattoo your face when you're off work. If you're a politician you can't post pictures on face book of yourself getting drunk with teenagers.
The shit you do in your free time, effects your job.
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03-21-2011, 06:07 PM
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going to be an interesting case
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QQ more asshole.
Notice how he cries about his job but doesn't address the drunk driving accusation?
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03-21-2011, 06:45 PM
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I say too damn bad. It is a pretty extreme case for him to be in, but lets face it, his night could have gone the other extreme, and killed a family of 4.
Drinking and driving is against the law. You wouldnt expect a highschool principle to keep his job if he was found with child pornography.
He did this to himself, and can only blame himself.
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03-21-2011, 06:46 PM
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What a winy bitch. He was driving drunk and got caught. He should suck it up rather then being a big baby. I hope he loses his license for a year.
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03-21-2011, 06:51 PM
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The title should be changed to "Truck Driver to lose job because he was caught driving drunk"
Interesting that the union isn't really backing him up either.
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why would they?
he broke a LAW and now has to face the punishment just like everyone else.
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03-21-2011, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl  I don't get what the guy's whining about. If you work with your hands you don't stick them in a blender on your free time. If you're a model you don't tattoo your face when you're off work. If you're a politician you can't post pictures on face book of yourself getting drunk with teenagers. | oo oo, i got one! if you don't want to get sexually harassed, don't wear slutty clothes and flirt in the office
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03-21-2011, 07:04 PM
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I didn't realize refusing to blow into a breathalyzer would mean an automatic 90-day license suspension.
The article didn't state he was driving drunk, causing him to be suspended. It says: Quote:
On Jan. 29 he was pulled over by police in Port Moody while off work. He refused to blow into a breathalyzer.
That decision earned him the same administrative punishment of a legally drunk driver who blows over .08: fines, fees, a 90-day licence suspension and a one-year, post-suspension requirement that any vehicle he drives be equipped with an ignition-interlock device.
Fines and fees will end up costing around $5,000, and Prosser’s lost almost $7,000 in wages since he was immediately suspended from driving for 90 days after refusing to blow on the breathalyzer.
| BTW, I don't support drinking and driving. I figured they would take him to the station or something to do some other test to determine his alcohol level. Instead, they just immediately deemed he was guilty and penalized him.
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thats the law.
refuse a breath sample, then your considered guilty of said charges.
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03-21-2011, 07:27 PM
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If that's the case, I hope he was advised during the stop that if he refused the breathalyzer, he would be penalized.
However, if the guy did not know before the stop, nor was he informed during the traffic stop, I think he deserves some sympathy.
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He should not only lose his job. They should have given him a pat on the back for "never been pulled over" then arrested him on scene, impounded his truck, throw his ass in jail. What a little bitch!
If he drives for a living, he should know better. To think he could have killed someone else's family driving drunk.
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03-21-2011, 08:12 PM
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03-21-2011, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nns If that's the case, I hope he was advised during the stop that if he refused the breathalyzer, he would be penalized.
However, if the guy did not know before the stop, nor was he informed during the traffic stop, I think he deserves some sympathy. | I imagine this will be the issue at hand if it goes to trial. I believe they ARE obligated to tell you that by refusing a breathalizer you face the full consequences. I wonder why the hell he wouldn't take it, was he so drunk he thought he'd blow a FAIL? He's going to face the same penalty, I'm not sure why anyone would refuse.
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I imagine this will be the issue at hand if it goes to trial. I believe they ARE obligated to tell you that by refusing a breathalizer you face the full consequences. I wonder why the hell he wouldn't take it, was he so drunk he thought he'd blow a FAIL? He's going to face the same penalty, I'm not sure why anyone would refuse. | We don't know that he wasn't informed, at least not based on the article as quoted. Possible he was too blasted to grasp the consequences (in which case he deserves no sympathy from anyone, not even sebberry).
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I imagine this will be the issue at hand if it goes to trial. I believe they ARE obligated to tell you that by refusing a breathalizer you face the full consequences. I wonder why the hell he wouldn't take it, was he so drunk he thought he'd blow a FAIL? He's going to face the same penalty, I'm not sure why anyone would refuse. | Doubt it would go to trial. Above said it pretty clearly, the statue's in place.
This is really the point of - know what you do for a living, and don't f- around with it.
You a cook, don't put poison in the food.
You a lawyer, don't go breaking laws
you a doctor, don't go giving the wrong med knowingly to ppl.
You know what you do. Don't Fuck around.
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What a dumbass. The laws are the same for everybody and if you don't want to lose your licence don't drink and drive. I don't know any sober people who would refuse to blow considering the reprocutions. Time for him to find a new job, one near a bus route.
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His own fault. He knew what he does for a living yet decided to risk it.
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03-22-2011, 07:39 AM
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fucking right! bastard deserves to lose his job.... keep driving drunk bitches !!!!!!!
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