[Energy]

I was at an intersection when this blind guy with a walking stick that he waves in front of him crosses the street. I didn't notice him coming closer and closer and he whacks my bumper with the stick. He then stops and then continues crossing. I was not sticking out or anything like that.

I was kind of shocked that that could even happen but I didn't do anything partly because I know that he's blind and its not totally his fault. And also because my front bumper is old anyway and the bottom looks sand blasted because or rocks and its lowness. Blind guy left a tiny nick in the bumper that I just touched up.

(EDIT: not going to do this anymore because I know now that its wrong) Next time I see one of those people crossing the street I'll keep and eye on them and if they get close to my car I'm gonna honk my horn like there's no tomorrow. So keep an eye out for them.

[CRS]

I was at an intersection when this blind guy with a walking stick that he waves in front of him crosses the street. I didn't notice him coming closer and closer and he whacks my bumper with the stick. He then stops and then continues crossing. I was not sticking out or anything like that.

I was kind of shocked that that could even happen but I didn't do anything partly because I know that he's blind and its not totally his fault. And also because my front bumper is old anyway and the bottom looks sand blasted because or rocks and its lowness. Blind guy left a tiny nick in the bumper that I just touched up.

Next time I see one of those people crossing the street I'll keep and eye on them and if they get close to my car I'm gonna honk my horn like there's no tomorrow. So keep an eye out for them.

Ugh... I wouldn't do that.

[Energy]

How would you stop a blind person from hitting your car with their stick? Maybe I won't honk forever but just one or two times to get his attention.

[1exotic]

should have shanked dat nicga

[DavidYeh]

you trolling? its not like hes taking a 2x4 to your bumper. Have some respect for people out there.

[Energy]

I do that's why I didn't do anything and just let him be.

And now I'm wondering what to do in case it happens again. Anything wrong with that?

[DavidYeh]

How often does a blind person walk by your car and hit your bumper with their stick? How come you dont post about rocks hitting your bumper when that happens a significant amount?

How about next time it happens, if it ever does again, you get out of your vehicle and check the damage and then proceed on with your life when you find absolutly no damage?

[quasi]

I would be greatful I have my sight and not let the small things get to me. It would be no different if a little kid accidently hit my truck with a ball, shit happens.

Now if some perfectly able adult is an idiot and smashes their door into mine in a parking lot I might have something to say about that, different situation.

[v.Rossi]

Well that's a stupid fucking analogy YG, ones inevitable and the other one can be avoided with some sort of polite alert.
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[Energy]

So you're saying just take the hit because the guy is handicapped? Instead of somehow coming up with a way to avoid it?

And what's this about no damage? He actually gouged off a piece of my bumper which I also am willing to let go because the overall condition of the bumper isn't that great. My car isn't too expensive but what if he's walking towards some guy's Ferrari, what do you think the owner would do when he sees the blind guy coming close? Just take the hit?

I mean, I know he's blind so its not his fault - I stated that in my first post.

[Energy]

Well that's a stupid fucking analogy YG, ones inevitable and the other one can be avoided with some sort of polite alert.
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Exactly. And that's the point of this thread. What can I do if this ever happens again. Its not some anti blind person thread like YoungGunner thinks.

[-EuroRSN-]

YOU SIR ARE A DUMBASS FOR POSTING THIS!!!

HES FUCKING BLIND MAN are u blind??

Plus your bumper is already scratched why are u complaining. Why dont u get mad at fat fucks parking their volvo beside u and hitting ur car with their door.

and please dont honk ur hork and blind ppl either cause imagine if they fell or hurt them self how stupid would u look?:fullofwin:

[Energy]

YOU SIR ARE A DUMBASS FOR POSTING THIS!!!

HES FUCKING BLIND MAN are u blind??

Plus your bumper is already scratched why are u complaining. Why dont u get mad at fat fucks parking their volvo beside u and hitting ur car with their door.

and please dont honk ur hork and blind ppl either cause imagine if they fell or hurt them self how stupid would u look?:fullofwin:

Please read my post again. I am not mad about it (because I know he's blind - its in my post) nor am I complaining (because my bumper isn't in good shape - also in my post). Before you get on your high horse please try to understand what's been posted.

I just want to know what to do if it happens again. Maybe honking is not such a great idea but that's exactly why I asked the question. Now I know not to honk but then what would you do?

[optiblue]

Give the guy a break, it's just a small chip! You should be thankful that he didn't walk into the busy street!
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[white_guilt]

You're luck you didn't run into him while you were on foot. A buddy of mine took a walking stick to the face when he ran into an old blind guy because he was texting. It was hilarious, to say the least.

[Energy]

Give the guy a break, it's just a small chip! You should be thankful that he didn't walk into the busy street!
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I didn't fucking do anything to the guy! I just sat in my car and went on my way once the light turned green!

What part of this do you guys not understand?! I just want to know how to avoid a situation like this next time. What part of that is beyond comprehension?

[DavidYeh]

I dont think you are anti-blind. I just think that as more priviliged individuals in the society, we can at least be able to accept things like that. If I drove a Ferarri, I am sure I'll be able to take the time and use my resources to make repaires done by a blind man's walking stick.

I know my anaglogy might not be perfect, but the fact remains that this is a rare event and extending the courtesy of not honking would be nice. V Rossi, if you think this event was not inevitable, would you care to say what you could of done to prevent it from happening? Id think that as he was crossing the road, it would be hard to communicate to a blind man in a very effective manner that would prevent him from hitting your bumper.

I understand that it sucks getting your car damaged regardless of what condition if would be in, but it is just one of those unfortunate events and should just be taken as a little bump in the road of life

[-EuroRSN-]

Please read my post again. I am not mad about it (because I know he's blind - its in my post) nor am I complaining (because my bumper isn't in good shape - also in my post). Before you get on your high horse please try to understand what's been posted.

I just want to know what to do if it happens again. Maybe honking is not such a great idea but that's exactly why I asked the question. Now I know not to honk but then what would you do?

Honestly man id probably do nothing but it totally depends on the situation. If they werent blind and say some bitch hit my car with her shopping cart at the mall id say something. If their blind oh well shit happens not gonna start anything..

[maxxxboost]

Accidents happen, not like he was doing it on purpose.

I wouldn't honk the horn, it might scare the shit out of the person causing the person to be in harms way.

Possibly give yourself more space between the cross walk and your car?

[DavidYeh]

Honestly, its just that last line of your post that people are having problems with

[Energy]

Yes, I get it and I won't honk at them if it happens again.

Still no one has any ideas on how to avoid this? Is then consensus then to just take the hit?

[Energy]

Honestly, its just that last line of your post that people are having problems with

I edited it. I realize now that that was going too far.

[tegz]

It's your responsibility to keep your eye on the road, and since the pedestrian was occupying the road, it would naturally be your responsibility to see him coming and act in accordance. Example being: rolling down your window and politely saying "Hey watch out, you're about to hit my car".

You should always keep your eye on your surroundings even at a complete stop so stop blaming a disabled person and have some respect for them like others have said.

[dlo]

dont think you can avoid it... shit happens.

[Energy]

It's your responsibility to keep your eye on the road, and since the pedestrian was occupying the road, it would naturally be your responsibility to see him coming and act in accordance. Example being: rolling down your window and politely saying "Hey watch out, you're about to hit my car".

You should always keep your eye on your surroundings even at a complete stop so stop blaming a disabled person and have some respect for them like others have said.

How is that any different from honking? He'll just be startled all the same. Again, I am not blaming him (its in my post).

[Energy]

dont think you can avoid it... shit happens.

Guess that's the case then. Its kind of sad to see someone slowly walking towards your car with a stick and not being able to do anything about it.

[v.Rossi]

Well depends on the situation, is it full of traffic or is my rear clear? I would throw it in reverse, drop it in neutral if on a hill, light rev there's ways to have avoided this situation. Yes he's blind, I understand that but what if I was a major car enthusiast that just loves my car? Not all blind people are 'completely' blind, that said if he can't walk across the street within the pedestrian borders. maybe he really shouldn't leave his house or use a guide dog.

Look just because buddy is blind, he's not holy to do whatever. Big damage or small damage, because some of you guys are making it sound like the mans Jesus Christ without eyes. I'll acknowledge that just because I can see doesn't give me the right to act like an asshole and give him hell either, I understand the man is blind.
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[Energy]

^ Couldn't reverse. But I could have given him a light rev I guess? Thanks for actually answering the question.

[HansonBoy]

SEriously i thought u were gonna say that next time you would just back up a bit to avoid another caning......

[Energy]

^ I would love to have been able to do that but I didn't know the guy was going to hit me until it was too late and I couldn't have reversed or I would have hit the car behind me.

Somehow I think its weird how people will just bend over and take damage because the guy is blind without even trying to avoid it. I mean, there has to be a way that won't endanger him and will allow you to escape having damaged property

[Geoc]

I think using your voice sends a clearer message than honking or revving.

[BillyBishop]

dont think you can avoid it... shit happens.

this

[CP.AR]

maybe he was just checking to see if you have fully stopped... that IS his way of seeing.

anyways OP, good that you aint raging. I've seen so many people raging at the blind when it comes to crossing and stuff

[Jayhall]

should have beat him up, that would teach him for being blind

[xyz123]

Gatta agree with Geoc, verbal communication will probably be better than honking your horn. After all, a honk can be interpretted as many messages.

He's no jesus, but give the person some sympathy. I know your car is your baby and like a mother you will protect it all cost. But that's just metaphorical. Though you put sweat, hardwork, and care; in the end a car is just an object, suck it up.

You can have many cars, but a person can only have one life.

OP you handled the situation very well :thumbsup:

[Energy]

this

no way. Some things are truly out of your control (natural disasters, etc) but this isn't. Honking may not be right and I acknowledge that what I posted in my first post was an overreaction but you guys make it sound like that blind people can stick their canes up your asses and you wouldn't at least try to do anything about it.

maybe he was just checking to see if you have fully stopped... that IS his way of seeing.

anyways OP, good that you aint raging. I've seen so many people raging at the blind when it comes to crossing and stuff

I was fully stopped, he just came closer and closer to me probably to get away from traffic but cmon, you know there are cars beside you, why swing that cane like you're playing golf or something.


Look just because buddy is blind, he's not holy to do whatever. Big damage or small damage, because some of you guys are making it sound like the mans Jesus Christ without eyes. I'll acknowledge that just because I can see doesn't give me the right to act like an asshole and give him hell either, I understand the man is blind.
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^ People please read this!!!! Especially those of you who are acting all high and mighty. This is exactly what I believe needs to happen in situations like this.

I don't get pissed off at blind people. I made the thread to figure out if there was a way to avoid this again.

What pisses me off now is how so many people are willing to just let a blind person walk all over them. This one time this happened to me sucks but you know what, I just let it go without doing anything because it was the right thing to do in my opinion. And when I ask how to not let it happen again people tell me to just suck it up. I don't think its right that people say this is something out of your control - we can change the outcome without hurting the guy or having our stuff damaged.

And I repeat - I OVERREACTED WHEN I SAID I WOULD HONK NONSTOP. I wasn't thinking about what could happen to the guy when I first posted this so there.

[GabAlmighty]

If I was the blind guy and you laid on your hor i'd kick your car. Hell, if I was the guy walking behind the blind dude when you did that i'd kick your car. Stop being a prissy little bitch.

[Energy]

^ Can you not read? I edited my first post to say that I wouldn't honk at him. And then on my post right on top of you I repeated it twice.

[BillyBishop]

no way. Some things are truly out of your control (natural disasters, etc) but this isn't. Honking may not be right and I acknowledge that what I posted in my first post was an overreaction but you guys make it sound like that blind people can stick their canes up your asses and you wouldn't at least try to do anything about it.

don't worry about the honking part; i know what you mean haha

All depends on the circumstances bro. you said you "didn't notice him coming closer and closer", so there was fuck all you could've done this time, whether it be honking, talking aloud, etc.

change it up a little... this time you see him 5 feet away, swingin' away as he was. Clearly, there's not enough time to roll down your window and say something. SO. two options: 1. do nothing, and take the hit or 2. honk, and have no idea of what his reaction might be.
You said you wouldn't honk, so again.. fuck all you could've done even in this situation.

Now, had you seen him from 30 feet away and in a parking lot, (and you really cared about the bumper), provided the circumstances, you could even step out of your car and making sure he comes nowhere close to your car with that cane swingin' away

so yeah. in your specific case, given that you didn't see him approaching, shit does happen. suck it up bro

all depends on the circumstances. i was walking with my iphone to my ear in a crowded hallway, and this dude bumps into me. dropped my phone, screen shattered. one of those times where you just can't react in time.

[GabAlmighty]

[QUOTE=Energy;7367158]^ Can you not read? I edited my first post to say that I wouldn't honk at him. And then on my post right on top of you I repeated it twice.

Evidently not. Next time just delete the sentence.

[Energy]

don't worry about the honking part; i know what you mean haha

All depends on the circumstances bro. you said you "didn't notice him coming closer and closer", so there was fuck all you could've done this time, whether it be honking, talking aloud, etc.

change it up a little... this time you see him 5 feet away, swingin' away as he was. Clearly, there's not enough time to roll down your window and say something. SO. two options: 1. do nothing, and take the hit or 2. honk, and have no idea of what his reaction might be.
You said you wouldn't honk, so again.. fuck all you could've done even in this situation.

Now, had you seen him from 30 feet away and in a parking lot, (and you really cared about the bumper), provided the circumstances, you could even step out of your car and making sure he comes nowhere close to your car with that cane swingin' away

so yeah. in your specific case, given that you didn't see him approaching, shit does happen. suck it up bro

all depends on the circumstances. i was walking with my iphone to my ear in a crowded hallway, and this dude bumps into me. dropped my phone, screen shattered. one of those times where you just can't react in time.

Yep, depends on circumstances. Given the circumstances this time I didn't do anything because there was nothing to be done. What I wanted to know was for next time.

Maybe if there is a next time there wouldn't be a car behind me. Then I'd reverse. Maybe there's no traffic and I rev at him because I know even if he moves slightly towards the traffic lanes he won't get hit. Maybe next time its not raining and I have my windows down and can yell at him in time.

[Energy]

[quote=Energy;7366604]

Evidently not. Next time just delete the sentence.

I left it so you guys would know that I know I made a mistake and that I admit to it.

And yet people don't take the time to read and pass judgment in the heat of the moment. Kind of like what I did when I first posted that. Funny how it works eh? :fullofwin:

[The_AK]

next time, break his legs tough guy

[Energy]

next time, break his legs tough guy

Here's a man of action. Too bad I'm not a caveman like you.

[xyz123]

People have already suggested how you could avoid the situation, whether it be using your voice or giving yourself more space between the cross walk and your car, why are you trying to seek more answers when these are sufficient. How likely is this going to happen again, what's the likely hood of YOU paying attention to EVERY single thing that passes your car every second? Now that this has happened maybe you will personally pay extra attention to people who are blind and warn them before they get closer to your car.

"What pisses me off now is how so many people are willing to just let a blind person walk all over them."

People say suck it up if the damage has already been done. You could pull over, chase the guy and ask him to pay for the damage but is that worth a 300 deductable? You can do it privately, if it makes you feel better. Cost benifit. In addition, it depends on the situation, normally people make just decision's whether something is wrong or right despite someone being blind. Whether they choose if there is reparation is soley up to them.

[Energy]

^ yeah, I know.

I'm sure I'd notice someone waving a stick around?

You're right, this thread is now pointless because everything is just being repeated again and again. So I'll leave it at this now. Thanks for all the advice both good and bad and I know now to try to be more accommodating when possible.

[Jayhall]

Dont these walking sticks have a big rubber ball on the end?? Did he do it on purpose? Think he saw you and decided he didnt like your face so he would put a minor scratch on your bumper? Tts a bumper, by design they are supposed to bump things. If you've got a $6000 paint job, then maybe you could consider asking him to pay for the damage.

Put yourself in his shoes. You are out walking to safeway. (blind people have to eat too) You come up to an intersection (which you cant see, only feel with your walking stick) as your checking to see if its safe and you realize its not, because you have felt (seen) a car, but you also know its stopped so you are ok to go. All the sudden you got some punk ass kid giving you attitude and demanding you pay for damages to his car (which you cant actually see or know even exsists) Personally if I were the blind guy Id tell you to get fucked unless someone I know was around to help out.

:worthless:

[hk20000]

Reminds me of this episode of boondocks where grandpa get raged at stinkmeaner and fought him, but killed the blind man by mistake.
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[wasabisashimi]

Let me tell you how to prevent blind man's attack. Buy a bumper Bra. How often does a blind man walk across your car? What if he is deaf,, your honk would be useless. Just back up next time.

[Great68]

Blind people should not be swinging their cane around hard enough to damage a vehicle's paint.

Being blind is not an excuse for being careless.

If I was you, I would have at the very least told the man to be more careful with his cane. Maybe he wouldn't be so careless the next time.

[Nightwalker]

Is then consensus then to just take the hit?

YES

[taylor192]

Run him over next time, he won't see it coming!

Too soon? :whistle:

[Energy]

^ lol

[Senna4ever]

It's just a fucking car - there are more important things to worry about than a little mark on your bumper cover.

[HansonBoy]

It's just a fucking car - there are more important things to worry about than a little mark on your bumper cover.

Thats stupid, what if it was your child that he whacked with his cane? While you were not paying attention?

I've never seen a blind person wave his cane around like that, but it does sound careless and dangerous.

[BillyBishop]

Thats stupid, what if it was your child that he whacked with his cane? While you were not paying attention?

I've never seen a blind person wave his cane around like that, but it does sound careless and dangerous.

???

It was the fucking car dude... it WASN'T his child, and that's what Senna4ever's point was. the more important things to worry about are things like his child.... if he has one

[firebird79_00]

what goes around comes around, he hits you, you hit him. End of story

[baggdis300]

Yes, I get it and I won't honk at them if it happens again.

Still no one has any ideas on how to avoid this? Is then consensus then to just take the hit?

i have an idea stop FURTHER away from the cross walk so buddy man can't hit your car cause your far enough away.

[v.Rossi]

Let me tell you how to prevent blind man's attack. Buy a bumper Bra. How often does a blind man walk across your car? What if he is deaf,, your honk would be useless. Just back up next time.

Well if he was deaf, his eyes would most certainly work and OP's bumper would have been untouched. So where are you going with that example?

Hypothetically speaking if you did honk, and a blind person was startled. I highly doubt he/she would simply fall, not all blind people are old. Perhaps their blind walking stick may drop, if that happens park your car, turn hazards on, walk to the person pick up their stick. Mention why you honked, "you were walking right into my car with your stick pointing towards it. Sorry, have a nice day."

I understand that they're supposed to raise their cane horizontally and walk if they aren't sure if they should cross, but when they start to curve into traffic well then that's when you should be worried. For your sake and his/hers.

If I was blind, I would have thought oh shit my bad. I'm blind and have crossed streets hundreds of times, this has never happened before. I should wake up.

[FerrariEnzo]

its probably your fault for going too close to him.. your suppose to be a few feet from the STOP line.. not the Cross-Walk line..

dont anyone follow the rules at the intersection?, your suppose to see the STOP line just above your hood.. if you cant see it, then your too close, if you dont see anyone crossing and you have to make a turn, ten you can slowly roll out AFTER you have stopped..

i see so many people ignoring this and just STOP right at the CROSS walk line.. WTF

[StylinRed]

i really really doubt there was any damage to your bumper from a blind guys stick... im sorry.. just sounds bs

if he swung his stick hard enough to chip paint there would be an unending line of people clutching their shins/feet

sounds like you just made up the "tiny nick" how would you even spot it over your "sandblasted" bumper of rock/curb damage


but in the event that you're not lying, suck it up susy and stop further from the line next time you see a blind guy on his harrowing quest chopping through an invisible jungle with his machete

[Energy]

its probably your fault for going too close to him.. your suppose to be a few feet from the STOP line.. not the Cross-Walk line..

dont anyone follow the rules at the intersection?, your suppose to see the STOP line just above your hood.. if you cant see it, then your too close, if you dont see anyone crossing and you have to make a turn, ten you can slowly roll out AFTER you have stopped..

i see so many people ignoring this and just STOP right at the CROSS walk line.. WTF

I wasn't stopped any closer to the line than the cars beside me... which is also in my first post. True, I could have been like 10 feet away from the line but who does that??

i really really doubt there was any damage to your bumper from a blind guys stick... im sorry.. just sounds bs

if he swung his stick hard enough to chip paint there would be an unending line of people clutching their shins/feet

sounds like you just made up the "tiny nick" how would you even spot it over your "sandblasted" bumper of rock/curb damage


but in the event that you're not lying, suck it up susy and stop further from the line next time you see a blind guy on his harrowing quest chopping through an invisible jungle with his machete

^ I spotted the damage because there was an actual piece gouged out of my bumper. Small yes, but much bigger than any rock chop. The stick is long and if you swing it even gently the force is multiplied.

I don't think you've even been hit by a blind guy's stick so why are you even talking about something you've never experienced? Or are you just making assumptions and following what everyone else is saying? Why not experiment and take a stick and swing it at your bumper to find out?

Everything that needs to be said about this situation has been said already.