[kyoshiro]

Anyone know what happened to the south bound at around 7 from UBC? I was heading down and a police redirected back over to the farm and had to take 16th out.

[roastpuff]

Bad accident from what my friend told me. Motorcyclist was hit... bits of car + bike everywhere.

[Spectre_Cdn]

A motorcyclist was killed, the accident happened around 5:30pm

[kyoshiro]

shit, must of probably been the road conditions. They really need to fill up those pot holes on SW marine drive, its a safety hazard.

[yugo]

Saw some disturbing stuff around 5:30pm.
The guys legs were sticking out of the front windshield of the Van that hit him. Is it confirmed that he's dead? RIP

[taylor192]

Someone reported on BCSB that the van pulled out infront of the bike, probably didn't even see the bike due to poor visibility around parked cars on the street... yet the rider was a new rider perhaps riding too fast. The rider was going eastbound and that's where the speed lowers to 50 kmph.

Riders, take it easy, cars are not used to bikes on the road this early in the season.

[twitchyzero]

damn...i was hoping someone wasn't killed cause the streetlights were off when i was leaving campus at 10pm

i remember when that lady got beheaded at pacific spirit park...they shut down SW marine drive and all traffic was rerouted for like 2 weeks

[kyoshiro]

Someone reported on BCSB that the van pulled out infront of the bike, probably didn't even see the bike due to poor visibility around parked cars on the street... yet the rider was a new rider perhaps riding too fast. The rider was going eastbound and that's where the speed lowers to 50 kmph.

Riders, take it easy, cars are not used to bikes on the road this early in the season.

too many cars park there and indeed causes issues with visibility. but yeah the 60 to 50 part, a lot of people continue going at 80+ down there until the fork, quite possible that the biker was going down fast especially if there were no cars in front.

[taylor192]

too many cars park there and indeed causes issues with visibility. but yeah the 60 to 50 part, a lot of people continue going at 80+ down there until the fork, quite possible that the biker was going down fast especially if there were no cars in front.
From BCSB:

The rider's friend, a girl on a 650R was too shaken to ride her bike back. She did not see happen it as he disappeared out of her view and she arrived at the scene a few seconds after

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0242b.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0239b.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0244b.jpg

[kyoshiro]

wow from the looks of it the bike was on the outer lane and the van was coming out make a left and probably not looking left at all looking at its position (which shouldnt have moved a lot)
But yeah make that area a no park zone. Real poor visibility.

[bartone]

Wow, for a bike to do that kind of damage to the van he must've been going pretty fast... This is a scary thought being a rider myself.
RIP

[FerrariEnzo]

ouch.. damn that bike looks like a pocket bike now..

poor fella...

[twitchyzero]

damn that's pretty tragic...van got fucked pretty badly too...did the van driver survive?
i blame expensive on-campus parking to cause that poor visbility..

[kyoshiro]

damn that's pretty tragic...van got fucked pretty badly too...did the van driver survive?
i blame expensive on-campus parking to cause that poor visbility..

its not all just the on campus parking, the vancouver office is also to blame to allow that strip of road be park-able causing an increase safety risk. I believe the van driver only sustained minor injuries from the vancouversun website.

[Gumby]

Ouch... RIP.

[TRDood]

wow, so did the guy survive?

The metal and door of the van shouldn't bend that way. Looking at it even makes me uncomfortable. ouch

[Gumby]

No, motorcyclist died.

From http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Young+motorcyclist+dead+after+Marine+Drive+crash+n ear/4539233/story.html

VANCOUVER -- A 27-year-old man is dead after his motorcycle collided with a minivan on Thursday afternoon.

Const. Jana McGuinness, speaking on behalf of the Vancouver Police Department, said that the crash happened around 5:30 p.m. at the intersection of Southwest Marine Drive and Kullahun Drive.

The motorcyclist was riding eastbound along Southwest Marine Drive and collided with a minivan making a left turn to go west from Kullahun Drive, which provides access to the Shaughnessy Golf Country Club.

The force of the collision propelled the motorcyclist into the minivan.

He died a short time later en route to hospital. His identity is being withheld pending notification of next-of-kin.

The driver of the minivan was transported to hospital for treatment of minor injuries, McGuinness said.

Investigators are looking into several witness accounts of a motorcycle travelling at a high speed along South West Marine Drive shortly before the crash.

As of 9:45 p.m., Southwest Marine Drive remains closed to traffic in both directions as police on scene complete their investigation.

The following bus routes are affected:

· 41 Joyce Stn/UBC

· 49 Metrotown Stn/UBC

· 480 Bridgeport Stn/UBC

Anyone who witnessed the crash is asked to call the VPD's Collision Investigation Unit at 604-717-3012.

[CP.AR]

Yeah that stretch on the side of the road should not be allowed for parking. It all started with a stupid VW Jetta in the fall term.

Keep it to the other side of the road and everyone's happy

[seakrait]

let's not forget the rider's speed as well. despite being the van's fault, bad visibility due to cars parking there, etc, etc etc... unfortunately the rider had some part in this as well. :(

everyone needs to slow down. even if it is a nice bright sunny day on a seemingly open road. i know i ride as if every cager is out to get me. the frontal profile of a rider is so small that i can't expect a cager to see me very well, esp going at a high rate of speed where i'm barely a dot hundreds of yards away and in your lap the next second.

[BNR32_Coupe]

this reinforces the stereotype that motorcycles = death

[seakrait]

this reinforces the stereotype that motorcycles = death

lol. i would disagree though it's definitely the riskiest thing i do. but i definitely also think that a lot of the risk is controlled by me as long as i'm always aware, always vigilant. thinking ahead and riding defensively. it's not a thrill-seeking hobby for me as it might be for others. i am a bit older than most of the RS folk here though so that's probably a difference maker as well. i would never advise a young male to get a bike license. just too much testosterone between the ears to listen to common sense. also, the inevitable need to buy a supersport and to make sure it works as advertised. :(

[Jermyzy]

I was there on my bike at 3pm this afternoon. RIP
By looks of the pictures, I would guess he was speeding. Just a few hours before the accident, the cops had a radar trap there too.

[unit]

^any rider will admit that riding is dangerous

[BNR32_Coupe]

lol. i would disagree though it's definitely the riskiest thing i do. but i definitely also think that a lot of the risk is controlled by me as long as i'm always aware, always vigilant. thinking ahead and riding defensively. it's not a thrill-seeking hobby for me as it might be for others. i am a bit older than most of the RS folk here though so that's probably a difference maker as well. i would never advise a young male to get a bike license. just too much testosterone between the ears to listen to common sense. also, the inevitable need to buy a supersport and to make sure it works as advertised. :(

theres a time and place for everything, especially for riding. every side street i pass by on a bike is a barrel pointed at me, and riding in the city becomes a game of roulette. definitely have to ride defensively and youll be okay. you don't hear about scooter guys getting offed the way motorcyclists do because they ride 50 kmh or less, at those speeds, you're pretty visible to the average driver who's main priorities are 1. whats for dinner 2. i have so much bills to pay 3. why is my life boring 4. oh yea, forgot to stop

also, does anyone actually find riding in the city enjoyable? to me, the city is an intermission between my home and the backroads, scenic roads, and highways.

[bcrdukes]

also, does anyone actually find riding in the city enjoyable?

It's a real pain in the ass, quite honestly.

[seakrait]

It's a real pain in the ass, quite honestly.

i live downtown so that clutch hand gets quite a work out. :( but it's just over the bridge to the highway and squamish so it's all good. :p but really, what i prefer are the small side roads east ... not really going that fast, but enjoying the scenery and riding for riding's sake....

need more of those rides than the let's-make-it-to-squamish-in-15-minutes craziness.

anyway, RIP rider.

as an aside, shoei rf-1100 in safety orange to be picked up this weekend. :) hopefully that'll give me a bit more visibility.

edit: also new tires and new knee armour.

[Matsuda]

RIP, ride safe and drivers be aware

[taylor192]

let's not forget the rider's speed as well. despite being the van's fault, bad visibility due to cars parking there, etc, etc etc... unfortunately the rider had some part in this as well. :(
There's enough visibility in that photo that either the minivan should have seen the bike, or the bike was traveling so fast that it would have looked clear to the minivan when it decided to go. Unfortunately from the evidence and comments it points to the rider traveling too fast.

That's an awesome stretch to open it up, take it easy folks.

[Qmx323]

Damn, that looks pretty bad.

Hopefully the city officials can do something about that stretch in terms of visibility

[TMT]

RIP

[Presto]

That's an awesome stretch to open it up, take it easy folks.

It's an easy road to just keep the throttle wide open. Used to bury the needle along that strip. Of course, the needle only went to 140km/h on the Reliant. :).

I guess riding season is officially on, now that it's been kicked off with it's first fatality? Although costly, it's a good reminder for everyone to be more aware on the road. Since you can't depend on the cagers to be more aware (especially in Richmond, ground-zero C-Lai zone), riders need to be extra vigilant. Be as visible, as possible, and keep that brake covered.

[taylor192]

It's an easy road to just keep the throttle wide open. Used to bury the needle along that strip. Of course, the needle only went to 140km/h on the Reliant. :).
My first "unofficial" lesson from a buddy was him showing me how he could wheelie that entire stretch at > 140 kmph. Thankfully I still don't even know how to wheelie my bike! :whistle:

I guess riding season is officially on, now that it's been kicked off with it's first fatality? Although costly, it's a good reminder for everyone to be more aware on the road. Since you can't depend on the cagers to be more aware (especially in Richmond, ground-zero C-Lai zone), riders need to be extra vigilant. Be as visible, as possible, and keep that brake covered.
Unfortunately its actually the second fatality - I think someone was killed on Oak a month ago.

[Energy]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0242b.jpg


Did anyone else wonder how that pink facial tissue got there? Impact must have been terrible. RIP.

[slammer111]

Amazing the driver didn't get killed. Holy crap. :eek:

RIP rider.

[Good_KarMa]

also, does anyone actually find riding in the city enjoyable? to me, the city is an intermission between my home and the backroads, scenic roads, and highways.


There are some great back roads to ride on, but the majority of city riding (especially during traffic) is unexciting and taxing on the body.
In regards to Seakrait and his take on riding defensibly, with this being true, it takes away a lot of the fun factor of riding for me. Having to worry about someone else making a mistake is daunting on the mind. In my opinion, track riding would be the most fun anyone can have on a motorcycle. If you don’t have a truck, it’s quite hard getting to the track.

Unless!

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/305/dsc09630ig1.jpg

Unfortunate this happened :( all the best to the family and friends of both parties

[- kT]

Did anyone else wonder how that pink facial tissue got there? Impact must have been terrible. RIP.

i did

if you look at the damage on the minivan, it's clear the rider was going crazy fast. nicest day out for a while, long stretch of road, many of us would've done the same, be it in a car, on a bike, whatever

RIP to the rider

[alex.w *//]

the side airbags saved the drivers life..litteraly

[seakrait]

In my opinion, track riding would be the most fun anyone can have on a motorcycle. If you don’t have a truck, it’s quite hard getting to the track.

Unless!

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/305/dsc09630ig1.jpg


:fullofwin: V-Twin 650 class anywhere? :p

There are some great back roads to ride on, but the majority of city riding (especially during traffic) is unexciting and taxing on the body.

In regards to Seakrait and his take on riding defensibly, with this being true, it takes away a lot of the fun factor of riding for me. Having to worry about someone else making a mistake is daunting on the mind.

oh, it's very much not fun to have to fear for your life everytime you ride, lol. but once you get out of the city and onto quiet backcountry roads, it's all good.

[adambomb]

RIP to the rider. :(


Another riding season is about to start and unfortunately, this is not the first death we are going to hear of. Slow down and be safe everyone!

Also, I know some people find it super annoying. But... LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES. Countless times i've been riding in the city at 6-7000rpm, but doing the speed limit and I know that has helped drivers notice me. Especially drivers entering the intersection on your right side.

[maxxxboost]

RIP to the motorcyclist. So early in the season :(

The mini van prob didn't see the biker as he was doing his left/right/left checks. In my opinion, by the time the van driver got to the last left check, he was already committing the left turn. If the biker wasn't going so fast, it could have been a lesson for the rider instead of death.

[seakrait]

Also, I know some people find it super annoying. But... LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES. Countless times i've been riding in the city at 6-7000rpm, but doing the speed limit and I know that has helped drivers notice me. Especially drivers entering the intersection on your right side.

i suppose something is better than nothing but really, when you're a distracted cager putting on your lipstick, talking on your cellphone, etc... does a bike's pipe really make a huge difference except to let the driver know that there's a bike around? not sure if the cager would be able to pick out the direction of the sound and the context of the situation before the inevitable happened.

[bloodmack]

Puddle of blood under the bike?? :S
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0239b.jpg

[kyoshiro]

Puddle of blood under the bike?? :S
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/1961Ghia/scrap/IMG_0239b.jpg

i believe thats gasoline.

[- kT]

^ looks like gasoline to me too, if anything, the rider's blood would be in the van since he was propelled from the bike

[maxxxboost]

^^ i thought it was motor oil?

[kyoshiro]

^^ i thought it was motor oil?

good point too, it could possibly be either. Can only tell with pictures later on because gasoline will possibly evaporate.

[Gh0stRider]

damn..RIP

[taylor192]

Also, I know some people find it super annoying. But... LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES. Countless times i've been riding in the city at 6-7000rpm, but doing the speed limit and I know that has helped drivers notice me. Especially drivers entering the intersection on your right side.

does a bike's pipe really make a huge difference except to let the driver know that there's a bike around? not sure if the cager would be able to pick out the direction of the sound and the context of the situation before the inevitable happened.
Someone gets it.

Loud pipes do not save lives. Low exhaust notes are not directional, and newer cars very well insulated. In fact they only add to the stereotype of inconsiderate riders and make drivers more annoyed and less respectful of riders.

Saying they would have saved this life only justifies driving like an asshat. Its a 60kmph zone, if the rider was doing the speed limit there's a high probability the outcome would have been different.

A modulated headlight is a better alternative. If the problem was the minivan did not see the driver, the modulated headlight would have helped.

[cococly]

The POPO had been catching speeders at that location all afternoon today. I expect that they would camp over there for quite a while.

[kyoshiro]

The POPO had been wacatching speeders at that location all afternoon today. I expect that they would camp over there for quite a while.

yeah probably, but classes end next week. I was quite surprised to have not seen them watching at that spot for the past few weeks.
I wish they would also ticket every car that hinders visibility while they're at it.

[baggdis300]

Someone gets it.

Loud pipes do not save lives. Low exhaust notes are not directional, and newer cars very well insulated. In fact they only add to the stereotype of inconsiderate riders and make drivers more annoyed and less respectful of riders.

Saying they would have saved this life only justifies driving like an asshat. Its a 60kmph zone, if the rider was doing the speed limit there's a high probability the outcome would have been different.

A modulated headlight is a better alternative. If the problem was the minivan did not see the driver, the modulated headlight would have helped.

modulated you mean daytime running lights version for bikes?

if so, then yes i concur DRL's can/could save lives..



and, wow those pictures give me the chills.....

further reinforces why my mom wouldn't let me get my motorcycle license before..

[taylor192]

modulated you mean daytime running lights version for bikes?
Its module that makes your headlight blink on/off, cause people are more likely to notice a flashing light than a static light. AFAIK they are legal in BC cause I've seen some bikes with them.

[CP.AR]

Box of tissues still there today when I passed by
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[baggdis300]

Its module that makes your headlight blink on/off, cause people are more likely to notice a flashing light than a static light. AFAIK they are legal in BC cause I've seen some bikes with them.

yeah, ive seen those before and thought WTF is wrong with that guys bike..

[Gh0stRider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPz20llXBFE&feature=related

[roastpuff]

Saw quite a few cars being pulled over on the way home today.

[kyoshiro]

Saw quite a few cars being pulled over on the way home today.

everyone speeds down that stretch so not surprised

[hk20000]

I don't think I'd hear a bike at all in my Benzo... So loud pipes do jack shit.

[Harvey Specter]

I'm shocked the driver of the van survived, wow.

RIP.