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AlphaKappa
04-11-2011, 07:45 PM
Well I want buy a pretty decent sports bike, and my budget is around $10000. Just looking for a sick bike that does it's job and has good manouevre. Don't really know what to get and ye i'm pretty much a newb on bikes..
P.S. if you know a place where they offer better deals on motorcycles, and accesories that would help me more!
racerman88
04-17-2011, 06:36 PM
first thing is take a riding course like PRS. Then that will help you gauge what you can ride.
Other than that, Burnaby Kawasaki is always good.
bcrdukes
04-17-2011, 11:56 PM
Moved to appropriate forum.
bcrdukes
04-18-2011, 12:40 AM
That's a lot of money for a first bike, especially because you don't know what you're getting yourself into. :lol
Like racerman88 suggested, take up lessons through PRS first then decide on what you want.
CharlieH
04-18-2011, 01:48 AM
get a hayabusa and then turbocharge it. stock hayabusas only have around 180hp and won't break 200mph, so you'll need that extra boost to get you up there. you don't need to spend too much on gear as safety equipment is generally pretty over rated. get a 2nd hand helmet off craigslist (only because it's legally required for you to wear one) and you're good to go. lastly, don't listen to the guys' advice on taking a course. that 700 dollars can be spent on a nitrous kit for when the turbo gets boring.
Jermyzy
04-18-2011, 04:28 PM
^ :lol
What size are you? I'm selling a brand new Scorpion Stinger Perforated leather jacket, but it's size small
http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130722
AlphaKappa
04-18-2011, 05:23 PM
get a hayabusa and then turbocharge it. stock hayabusas only have around 180hp and won't break 200mph, so you'll need that extra boost to get you up there. you don't need to spend too much on gear as safety equipment is generally pretty over rated. get a 2nd hand helmet off craigslist (only because it's legally required for you to wear one) and you're good to go. lastly, don't listen to the guys' advice on taking a course. that 700 dollars can be spent on a nitrous kit for when the turbo gets boring.
ya totally thinking of getting that turbo 500bhp hayabusa , tearing it up 280 mph on the highway LOOOOL.
but i was thinking of getting the 250 ninja r, heard it was a pretty decent begginer bike?
stewie
04-18-2011, 05:32 PM
ya totally thinking of getting that turbo 500bhp hayabusa , tearing it up 280 mph on the highway LOOOOL.
but i was thinking of getting the 250 ninja r, heard it was a pretty decent begginer bike?
10g's for a 250! :p i doubt you'd need any more then half of that for a 250!
or you can buy my 600rr ;)
CharlieH
04-18-2011, 05:36 PM
yeah, a 250 is a great beginners bike. theres enough power to keep you going for at least a season or two. you can pick them up for around 3-4 grand, and they have a relatively good resale value as well. when you grow out of it, you can sell it for 75-80% of what you bought it for and then get a brand new 600 or something.
bcrdukes
04-18-2011, 05:56 PM
If possible, get the new Honda CBR250. Similar to the Ninja 250 except it uses electronic fuel injection as opposed to carbs.
The only downside to the CBR250 is that it's a first model year so it COULD potentially come with some problems attached. Then again, it's a Honda and it will have a solid warranty. :\
BoostNseveN
04-18-2011, 06:30 PM
Get what you want to get! Just as long has you have common sense and a level head, you can learn to ride on just about any bike. I have seen guys do stupid shit on a 250cc, 600cc and 1000cc. Hell, I know somebody who managed to flip a scooter! It's all in between the ears.
I recently bought a new helmet and slip on exhaust online from a company in richmond called synmoto. I think they are a new. There was a mix up with my online order, but they dealt with it fast. Very happy with their customer service. Prices were pretty good, at least compared to bayside which is where I usually shop at. I believe the guy who runs synmoto used to work at bayside.
racerman88
04-18-2011, 06:52 PM
the ninja 250 is a better bike than the Honda. I wouldn't get the Honda since it will be the first year of their new bike. THe ninja has been around for a while and is very popular.
AlphaKappa
04-18-2011, 07:05 PM
just hope i go more than 200 km/h with it on the highway :troll:
jk jk, im just looking for easy to manouvre and is the seat position comfortable? could you ride more than 2 hours without your knees aching and etc?
ziggyx
04-18-2011, 07:29 PM
you should factor in a lot of stuff when starting off.
you'll need gear
you should take riding school
buying a bike new or used, you will have to pay for tax also
you need to get insurance for a bike
I was quoted $1900 to insure a $6500 600cc bike for 6 months..
That was for 1 million dollar liability + full coverage which includes comprehension and collision. Keep in mind I have a 40% discount already.
bcrdukes
04-18-2011, 07:33 PM
If you're interested, I have a 1977 Yamaha RD200 for $2300 obo. New tires front and rear with cables, carbs, brakes, and chain adjusted. Oil changed too. Excellent bike to learn on and very comfortable to ride all day. 2-stroke motor and pulls like a mother #%&*.
6800km. Insurance is cheap too!
Jermyzy
04-18-2011, 07:35 PM
just hope i go more than 200 km/h with it on the highway :troll:
jk jk, im just looking for easy to manouvre and is the seat position comfortable? could you ride more than 2 hours without your knees aching and etc?
I had a Ninja 250 (now given to the wife). Very easy to manouvre and riding position is relatively upright and comfy (slight sporting position). I've ridden up to squamish and back...the only thing sore was my ass :lol But I'm 5'8", not sure if you would feel cramped at your height.
AlphaKappa
04-18-2011, 07:49 PM
If you're interested, I have a 1977 Yamaha RD200 for $2300 obo. New tires front and rear with cables, carbs, brakes, and chain adjusted. Oil changed too. Excellent bike to learn on and very comfortable to ride all day. 2-stroke motor and pulls like a mother #%&*.
6800km. Insurance is cheap too!
dont think i'd wanna ride a 1977 bike, it must use way more fuel cuz it's an older model, but as for the 250r pretty confident i will be getting with all the great reviews, unless i win a free y2k helicopter engine bike :fullofwin:
SoNaRWaVe
04-18-2011, 10:06 PM
you should factor in a lot of stuff when starting off.
you'll need gear
you should take riding school
buying a bike new or used, you will have to pay for tax also
you need to get insurance for a bike
I was quoted $1900 to insure a $6500 600cc bike for 6 months..
That was for 1 million dollar liability + full coverage which includes comprehension and collision. Keep in mind I have a 40% discount already.
definitely keep in mind of the budget you're willing to spend! 10k is a good budget but if you get a 600cc bike used (2006 and up) + insurance, that is almost 10k right there.
make sure you take a riding school.
i started riding last season and bought a 2006 yamaha r6. it was a mistake. not to say i don't like it, but the learning curve is MUCH steeper than a 250.
i recommend a used 250cc for a starter bike. easier riding position and more throttle forgiveness. i find that my back starts hurting after riding a while on the r6. a twist on the throttle on a 600cc can be dangerous where as you can twist the same amount on a 250cc and can be ok.
as for gear, it depends what you want, but it all adds up. helmets easily 400, jacket 200-400, not sure about pants, but boots can go from 400 and up easily. for better protection (like full leathers) the price goes up even more.
i suggest going to modern and speak to aaron :D he hes good combo deals you can get. and good luck! post some pics when you get your bike :D
CharlieH
04-18-2011, 10:08 PM
it seems like modern's not giving out deals like they used to anymore since their "reorganization". i actually got a better price on tires + installation from bayside.
daytona675
04-18-2011, 10:26 PM
^ i got a great deals on my A star gear. Below US msrp, I don't know how he does it, but he did it for me.
Go to modern for your gear!!
Culverin
04-19-2011, 03:28 PM
What size are you?
I might be willing to part with this:
https://www.motoliberty.com/prod_detail.asp?Prod_ID=1393
But I love the jacket. I'd just swap over to the white for some extra nighttime visibility.
Warp9Racing
04-22-2011, 08:01 PM
if your budget is 10gs, i'd buy all my gear first...helmet,jacket,gloves,boots,kelvar pants.
take the a course...so thats gonna run about 1500-2000...
with the remaining 8gs, you can opt. for the 250cc route for about 4gs, and then use the remainder for a down on the next bike...or 4gs can get you a 01-04 600cc...
or, use 6g's now, and buy a decent 05-06 600cc bike...
Cota4RT
04-23-2011, 05:40 AM
If I knew everything I know now, but was starting from scratch and going straight to a street bike (which is dumb because you should be learning in the dirt) I would buy the new Honda CBR250R or even the CBR125R. Not sure how anyone could suggest "ninja 250 is a better bike than the Honda" when the Honda's aren't even in the showroom yet??? Honda Fuel Injection rocks and that new Honda 250 even has an externalized fuel filter to simplify service, CV carburetors totally suck so if you buy a current or used Ninja 250 and live in a northern climate where we park our bikes over the winter, you better get real good at cleaning your own CV carbs. You can bet on this being the last year Ninja 250 has carburetors or their future 250 market share is poop.
If you understand this stuff, read up on the new Honda 250 and note how many industry first features they are showcasing on this new model, particularly with regard to the engine features: http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=5849-en
True, being a single this is not an extreme performance sport bike, but as a first bike it's right on the money. If Honda really wanted to crank out a stellar performance 250 it would have somewhere around 3 to 6 cylinders.
Remember since your first bike is not going to be a dirt bike, you are going to need a big chunk of budget to pay for insurance and a quality helmet. ...do not go cheap on the helmet and don't pay tons extra just for the graphics.
Take really good care of your stuff and it will last a very long time and retain it's value. Learn to service your own bikes and you will be a better rider for it.
...there endith the lesson :teach:
take PRS(Bike school) about 7-800 bucks
save 1500-2000 for gear
buy a used bike for your first bike, dont buy brand new as you will drop it and maybe more then once
get a nice ninja 250 to start or a nice 600 if you feel confident
good luck
im also selling a 2005 ninja if your interested. It was my first bike and it was an awesome bike
time to move to a Harley for me
SoNaRWaVe
04-23-2011, 11:47 PM
the question is not if you'll drop your bike, but when. it happens to everybody.
Titanium1.8
06-13-2011, 11:17 AM
2008+ Honda CBR125. Less than $2000 easily now that the CBR250 is here.
Check out my bike on my sig. Won't sell it to you unless u go to PRS school first though :P
^ :lol
What size are you? I'm selling a brand new Scorpion Stinger Perforated leather jacket, but it's size small
http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130722
I think my buddy bought that off you. It fits really well man! love the inside liners too, perfect for vancity weather!!
denham
06-26-2011, 07:56 PM
I agree with the guys saying go for a Ninja 250. I'd definitely recommend getting one used. Great bike to learn on, and you can ride it for a summer and sell it for what you paid for it. I would avoid spending big money on a bike you really love for your first bike... because as people have said, you are likely to drop it, and also chances are after you've been riding a while and figure out what kind of rider you are, you will start wanting a different kind of bike.
v.Rossi
07-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Dude $10,000 is a lot for a first bike. Let's break it down.
If you're smart, I have no say as that is subjective opinion. I recommend you taking a riding course, I did PRS. I had confidence shortly after in riding, however with YouTube nowadays... You can learn to ride a bike from watching a few 9 minute videos. Thoroughly explained if I may add. Which I regret, because $900 could have gone to gear. Nonetheless, good experience and great people at PRS. Most videos don't mention some important factors, such as where you look is where you go. So I mention that to you now, but if you're incompetent and have no confidence in your riding ability and not so great during life-death situations, take the course.
Now that said, $10,000 is too much for a first bike. Quit trying to impress everyone, I don't care if you live in British Properties and are shitting money. Sure, you look great... when you fall you think everyone who was impressed is going to help you up while sitting in their car? Nah. It's too much, too soon.
Buy gear which alone is costly, keep in mind riding a motorcycle or having any automotive vehicle is a money pit. Just don't be like the dumbass riding around in shorts, t-shirt, a very expensive Shoei RF-1100 helmet, and a 600cc. You're a statistic and possible a casualty. Even if you are experienced and that one day you decide not to wear gear, well Murphy's Law. I've seen it happen to people I know, even friends. Don't put your trust in drivers, especially Vancouver drivers. If it's 30*C wear fucking gear or just dig your grave now.
I can't emphasize that enough, just look through some sportbike forums. One guy decided to not wear boots, smashed his ankle bone, heel, shin was ripped open. There goes walking, there goes working.
Boots: ~$300/400
Gloves: ~$150/200
Helmet: ~$2XX - $9XX Depends on brand, just get Snell Approved. Snell > Dot (Buy full face helmet, not the Harley Davidson helmets, smash your chin going 100km/h... I could only imagine that would be nothing compared to Shane Carwin's hit)
Jacket: ~$500
Insurance: Basic is ~120/month
- Private insurance for theft/collision ~$No idea lol
Bike: Invest in a used bike, I won't recommend what bike to purchase like I said before it's how you react to things. I've seen people start with a litre bike, 600cc, 250cc, 125cc.
Then there's a purpose, are you riding to and from work? Taking it to the track? Long distance riding?
For example, you wouldn't buy a RR for long distance riding, it looks fucking beast imo. But your ass will hate you, some will say I can go for hours on my RR. Okay, pat yourself on the back now shut up.
You drop your bike it will happen, and depends how "God" the fictional man feels that day he may let you go with a minor scratch or a $5000 bill to replace all the fairings, swingarm, handlebars, etc. There you just spent $15,000 that could have bought you TWO bikes or 1 Ducati, or a used car, or you could just be dead right? Anythings possible.
Buy a used bike, keep within a smart budget. Remember, because a bike goes for $5000 there's tax in and you're looking at $5600. Unless they put it as undervalue :D
Riding is a dangerous sport. Be smart and it may not be.
Culverin
07-01-2011, 03:36 PM
Riding is a dangerous sport. Be smart and it may not be.
+1
What he said.
I'm riding a 50cc scooter and I'm geared up to high heaven.
You might think you're awesome and you're going to be a great riders, and you might really be. You might never lowside or highside your bike. But are you really going to bet your life, or your walking, or the use of your right arm that some c-lai who's wearing a welding mask and texting isn't going to ram your ass straight into the intersection?
Those c-lai do leave richmond once in a while.
Also, I almost got run over my an ambulance.
true story.
CharlieH
07-01-2011, 08:23 PM
+1
But are you really going to bet your life, or your walking, or the use of your right arm that some c-lai who's wearing a welding mask and texting isn't going to ram your ass straight into the intersection?
LOL
Midnitez
07-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Derp, squid n look kool ;)
AlphaKappa
08-01-2011, 04:29 PM
LOL
:rofl: nice edit hahaha
thanks for the advice everyone, sounds like i'll get a 250r after prs lessons :fullofwin:
LP700-4
08-01-2011, 07:07 PM
Just read up this thread, really good info here, its gonna be Ninja 250R for me too! After PRS and stuff first obviously.
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