[TheKingdom2000]

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=362134

- Got a technical foul
- Got pissed
- Called the ref a "f*cking faggot"
- Gay community condemned him
- Commissioner decided that $100k is the appropriate amount to fine him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF3v1St5VOY


$100k is a ridiculous amount for what he said. Not fair imo.

*Kobe makes about $23million a year (just salary) = about $280,000 per game.
So $100k won't affect him much.

[darkfroggy]

Not fair as in the fine was too big, or not big enough?

IMO, the gay community should stop taking "faggot" as a serious insult, when not directed towards them. People use it ALL the time now regardless of the person's sexual orientation. They should stop associating themselves with it. I seriously doubt Kobe was insinuating on the ref's sexual preference.

I am not against gays in any way, but they are doing themselves a disservice by exploding things out of proportion.

[Cman333]

Kobe rocks....

100K won't hurt him much, but still alot for swearing at the ref. I call people fags all the time. Imagine if I got a fine everytime.

Ouch.

[asahai69]

reminds me of the south park episode. lol they need to change the meaning irl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKN-zIc1AUc

[TheKingdom2000]

Not fair as in the fine was too big, or not big enough?

IMO, the gay community should stop taking "faggot" as a serious insult, when not directed towards them. People use it ALL the time now regardless of the person's sexual orientation. They should stop associating themselves with it. I seriously doubt Kobe was insinuating on the ref's sexual preference.

I am not against gays in any way, but they are doing themselves a disservice by exploding things out of proportion.

Not fair as in too much. Maybe like $10-40k would be acceptable.

And agree with everything you said.

[E-40six]

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/7211092/100k-Fine-20-minutes-of-work.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Kobe-Bryant
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http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/7210017/100000-FUCKING-FAGS.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Kobe-Bryant

[smaggs]

Wow thats gay

[DavidNguyen]

Lol. This reminds me. A friend of mine called a male flight attendant a "faggot". Later when they landed the cops were called and hassled them for 2 hrs. In the end. All she had to do was apologize.
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[Brianrietta]

I think it's great. I don't care what he specifically said to the ref, but I'm pleased that the fine is commensurate to his income. I'm also a huge fan of speeding tickets and other infractions/penalties being tied to the income/wealth of the individuals in question. Honestly, like that 20 minutes of work picture shows, it's not like the 100k fine is likely to affect his decision to or not to make outbursts at officials in the future anyways.

[BNR32_Coupe]

http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/UGLY-FAG.jpg
YOU RANG?????

[spideyv2]

honestly, gay people are way too sensitive. I have nothing against gays but what the fuck..
they get their own parade and all that bullshit.
I like getting blowjobs, how come I don't get a parade for that? I'm sure there's more then millions of people out there that like getting blow jobs too.

plus a lot of them put themselves out there to get blasted on(no pun intended). No one wants to see a guy dress in short shorts and a tank top out in public, or hear about how they took a load to the face etc..

[liu13]

http://i35.tinypic.com/330se1e.gif

had to do it

[LsquareD]

http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/UGLY-FAG.jpg
YOU RANG?????

http://images.wikia.com/dragonballfanon/images/9/9e/Dragon_ball_majin_buu.jpg

[JesseBlue]

not fair? u fail...

[BNR32_Coupe]

YOU RANG?????

http://www.bsideblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/jersey-shore-pauly-d-trailer1.jpg
OMG WHY U FAIL ME BRO???

[TRDood]

Lolololol.

Miss a game on 16 T = no work but still 280k. :)

Do technicals reset during playoffs? It would suck to miss game 7 of finals.
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[Mr.Money]

http://www.bsideblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/jersey-shore-pauly-d-trailer1.jpg

^^^---Fag's still watch that show bumping the thread up every time a new episode come's up on MTV....They probably got Tired of Fabbing to Steve-O's naked ass On jackass

[BLUETIGER]

Not fair as in the fine was too big, or not big enough?

IMO, the gay community should stop taking "faggot" as a serious insult, when not directed towards them. People use it ALL the time now regardless of the person's sexual orientation. They should stop associating themselves with it. I seriously doubt Kobe was insinuating on the ref's sexual preference.

I am not against gays in any way, but they are doing themselves a disservice by exploding things out of proportion.

i dare you, no, i DOUBLE DARE u to stroll into a black community and throw the term "fucking nigger" around casually. good luck explaining to the brothers to stop taking "nigger" as a "serious insult, when not directed towards them" (that is AFTER or IF you wake up from your coma).

you underestimate the power of words. here's one for you to look up: "derogatory"

in all honesty i am a big Kobe fan and i'm disappointed he would use such a term.

...go Lakers!

[midnight_r]

sheesh whats the big deal? Ref IS a FU#$ Fa#$%T for calling that TF.

[Euro7r]

$100K is like chump change for him. :troll:

[dachinesedude]

i dare you, no, i DOUBLE DARE u to stroll into a black community and throw the term "fucking nigger" around casually. good luck explaining to the brothers to stop taking "nigger" as a "serious insult, when not directed towards them" (that is AFTER or IF you wake up from your coma).

you underestimate the power of words. here's one for you to look up: "derogatory"

in all honesty i am a big Kobe fan and i'm disappointed he would use such a term.

...go Lakers!

:speechless:

your example does not make any sense cuz Kobe did not go into a gay pride parade and throw around the term "fag"

[LiquidTurbo]

I miss the days where you could call someone a 'faggot'.. just because, well, they were being a faggot!!!

[t_sack]

LOL this is gold

[Nlkko]

Somebody in this thread is disappointed. Haha.

They gotta fine him something because the gay associations were being all emo.

Basketball is an emotional game. If you sit near the court once you'll know players talked more nasty stuffs. Kobe just happened to got caught on national TV and they gotta do something about it.

And technicals reset when playoffs start, to a scale of 7 instead of 16.

[rsx]

Not fair as in the fine was too big, or not big enough?

IMO, the gay community should stop taking "faggot" as a serious insult, when not directed towards them. People use it ALL the time now regardless of the person's sexual orientation. They should stop associating themselves with it. I seriously doubt Kobe was insinuating on the ref's sexual preference.

I am not against gays in any way, but they are doing themselves a disservice by exploding things out of proportion.

Easy to say since you're looking at it from, what I assume, is a hetero point of view.

Kobe's an adult not some elementary kid calling someone 'dildo' or 'fag' I actually look down on people using the word 'fag' or 'nigger'

[LiquidTurbo]

it's never about the word, but the context. I really hate people that take words literally, and not the context. Was Kobe calling out the ref for being a homosexual?

Of course not, which is why it's so utterly retarded.

[Jassanova]

http://blogs.uscannenberg.org/neontommy_sports/Kobe%20Bryant%20white%20outfits.jpg

Yeah.... Kobe.... the ref's the fag... not you.

[twitchyzero]

"fucking nigga... omg i got jewed...you faggot...this shit's retarded"

We said this in grade school because we didn't know any better.You are just putting down a race/sexual orientation/mental capability no matter the context.

You don't go around saying 'wow that's buddhist' in frustration, this isn't any different.

[LiquidTurbo]

^

do you get upset too when you hear people say "Wow, I totally owned you that game!"

It's a reference to slavery! You're telling me you've never had an outburst of anger and said some un-PC things?
Like someone said, Kobe wasn't in a gay rally shouting 'faggot'. It's totally different.

It's never about the word, but the context in which the word was said. We have different opinions, but I still think the gay community over-reacted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA
^
Oh noes, somebody fine that guy!

[TheKingdom2000]

not fair? u fail...

I'm confused by your fail?

[rsx]

it's never about the word, but the context. I really hate people that take words literally, and not the context. Was Kobe calling out the ref for being a homosexual?

Of course not, which is why it's so utterly retarded.

I cringe everytime I hear the word 'fag' out of someone's mouth, it's soo...uneducated.

[hotjoint]

Thats a pretty harsh fine. Stern only fined him that much because he's a superstar and a role model. If it were some no name player, he probably would have fined them $1000.

[BLUETIGER]

:speechless:

your example does not make any sense cuz Kobe did not go into a gay pride parade and throw around the term "fag"

i agree it was not the best example i could have made but i just wanted to compare two situations in which behavior perpetuates oppression against a minority group.

my point is that using such terms is harmful, even if the target/victim is not necessarily a homosexual or African.

[Mining]

Seems like a part of his decision to fine him that amount could have been because he has money and took advantage of this fine opportunity.
All in all, Kobe shouldn't have let himself be compromised.

[le fu]

it's never about the word, but the context. I really hate people that take words literally, and not the context. Was Kobe calling out the ref for being a homosexual?

Of course not, which is why it's so utterly retarded.

So if Harper told Ignatieff to quit being such a nigger, it'd be ok?

[dfo-mpo]

kobe is a bit of a drama

[willystyle]

Thats a pretty harsh fine. Stern only fined him that much because he's a superstar and a role model. If it were some no name player, he probably would have fined them $1000.
Thanks for stating the obvious.

The NBA needs as much money from Kobe as they can possibly get considering how poorly that league is run economically.

[white_guilt]

Now all he has to do is buy that ref a huge diamond ring, and all will be well again.

[bigG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8QEHxy0oY

shoulda done it Jackie Moon style.

[GrapeDrink]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN-LSo7bxuo

[Hurricane]

i dare you, no, i DOUBLE DARE u to stroll into a black community and throw the term "fucking nigger" around casually. good luck explaining to the brothers to stop taking "nigger" as a "serious insult, when not directed towards them" (that is AFTER or IF you wake up from your coma).

If it would have been a TRIPLE DARE, I just might have done it :hotbaby:

Your example is garbage, therefore, so is your post. You can't use utmost extremes to prove a bullshit point.

If you go into this so called black community (I assume you mean the projects) and call someone a "fucking telephone" you will probably encounter the same result. Point? I guess you don't have one.

In fact you are missing the entire point. I don't think anyone in this thread is supporting what Kobe did; and they shouldn't. It should be the parents of the children who look up to Kobe watching the game who are pissed off. It shouldn't be the gay community.

Also, in case you know nothing about sports; athletes tend to get stuck in the high school mental development stage, at least when they are the court/ice/field. The sh!t that gets said on the other side of the glass during a typical hockey game would probably blow your mind.

i agree it was not the best example i could have made but i just wanted to compare two situations in which behavior perpetuates oppression against a minority group.

my point is that using such terms is harmful, even if the target/victim is not necessarily a homosexual or African.

Perpetuates oppression against a minority group? Yeah, I agree, I think this incident has really caused a huge step back in the Gay Rights movement. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if gay/lesbian marriages were banned because of it. If this is not what you meant, then please explain specifically.

Can you tell me how what Kobe did is any worse than calling the ref a "Fat Fuck."? Because if not, I think the other point being made in this thread is that 100k is a little ridiculous for a minor verbal temper tantrum.

[Vansterdam]

lol 100k aint shit to kobe

[BNR32_Coupe]

^

do you get upset too when you hear people say "Wow, I totally owned you that game!"

It's a reference to slavery! You're telling me you've never had an outburst of anger and said some un-PC things?
Like someone said, Kobe wasn't in a gay rally shouting 'faggot'. It's totally different.

It's never about the word, but the context in which the word was said. We have different opinions, but I still think the gay community over-reacted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA
^
Oh noes, somebody fine that guy!

i guess you never heard of a double standard? we have double standards for everything, eg, normal revscene users can rag on each other but when they do it to a mod points are awarded. men are praised for being total sluts but women are condemned, etc.

in reference to the above examples, if we didn't have double standards, the population would be through the roof and a greater percentage of people with STDs, also revscene some revscene mods may not even want to be a mod without fail button immunity, etc.

etc, etc.

etc.

[LiquidTurbo]

So a homophobe, a rapist and a black dude walk into a bar...

And everyone was like "Yo can I get your autograph Kobe?'

[wasabisashimi]

Again, money is none issue to kobe, but this shows what a great guy he truely is. A true champion. To kobe fans, keep on polishing his dick for him.

[freakshow]

Easy to say since you're looking at it from, what I assume, is a hetero point of view.

Kobe's an adult not some elementary kid calling someone 'dildo' or 'fag' I actually look down on people using the word 'fag' or 'nigger'You ignorant hypocrite.
Let's assume, in the worst case, that someone using the word 'fag' means it in a demeaning way (even though usually they don't). They might look down on 'fags' because they don't agree with their worldview. Now you're looking down on them for not agreeing with your world view? Good job! :rolleyes:

[snowball]

i guess you never heard of a double standard? we have double standards for everything, eg, normal revscene users can rag on each other but when they do it to a mod points are awarded. men are praised for being total sluts but women are condemned, etc.

in reference to the above examples, if we didn't have double standards, the population would be through the roof and a greater percentage of people with STDs, also revscene some revscene mods may not even want to be a mod without fail button immunity, etc.

etc, etc.

etc.

Or the opposite could be said that a non-double standard situation would be that men get called sluts too, reducing promiscuity not increasing it and then your STI argument would be debunked. :sleep:

[Sandman]

Well, the term "nigger" generally only has one concrete meaning (a disrespectful way to acknowledge an African person), where as the word "faggot" has more than one meaning. It's like Chris Rock/Louis C.K said, anyone can be a "faggot", not everyone can be a "nigger". This is why, when people say how would you like it if someone said, "man that's so.. Buddhist" doesn't apply because there is only one meaning to the word Buddhist. When calling someone a faggot, it has nothing at all to do with "gays", just like calling someone a "fine bitch" has nothing to do with the original meaning of the word bitch. It's just unfortunate that the word faggot just so happens to have this double meaning, but then again, so do a lot of words these days.

In this case, the gay community was acting like a "faggot", and condemning Kobe for the wrong reasons.

Don't get me wrong, like someone said, Kobe deserves to be fined for showing disrespect since he's a role model to thousands of kids (although anyone who's ever played 10 mins of sports in their life knows that this is normal on the court), but he's just being fined for the wrong reasons...

I could be wrong, but that's just how I view the term "faggot". Its about the context, not the word itself. The words "apple" or "chapstick" might as well have been used for the second meaning of "faggot", which is no different in my eyes.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ GOOD POST.

[hk20000]

I cringe everytime I hear the word 'fag' out of someone's mouth, it's soo...uneducated.
You have a problem with cigarettes?:fullofwin:

[Oleophobic]

I guess the original meaning of faggot/fagot is lost much like the original meaning of the word 'gay' :lol

straight from dictionary.com

faggot
–noun
1. a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel, a fascine, a torch, etc.
2. a bundle; bunch.
3. a bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded, hammered, or rolled together at high temperature.
4. bouquet garni.

[RacePace]

http://i54.tinypic.com/34jbv4n.gif
http://i.imgur.com/ZswoD.gif

[twitchyzero]

so just because gay, fag, retard may have different meaning, it's perfectly acceptable to use them?

may be i should go ahead and can call a vietnamnese or korean person a gook because gook was originally meant for Filipinos

Sorry man, maybe back in elementary school.

[darkfroggy]

so just because gay, fag, retard may have different meaning, it's perfectly acceptable to use them?

may be i should go ahead and can call a vietnamnese or korean person a gook because gook was originally meant for Filipinos

Sorry man, maybe back in elementary school.

You're taking this way out of proportion.

Kobe did not call the gay community "faggots". He called the ref a "faggot".

BTW, make sure you take "bitch" and "whore" out of your vocabulary. I know bitch can mean a female dog... but we gotta make sure we're not offending anyone, okay?

[Nlkko]

so just because gay, fag, retard may have different meaning, it's perfectly acceptable to use them?

may be i should go ahead and can call a vietnamnese or korean person a gook because gook was originally meant for Filipinos

Sorry man, maybe back in elementary school.

Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?

No, it's not ok to use them. That's why Kobe and the Lakers publicly apologized and even take the extra step to work with GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation).

But then, nobody make a BIG deal outta it. The point is it happened in a moment of emotion--which happens plenty of time if you ever take one step on the court to play COMPETITIVE sport. It's not ok how he said it but people understood why he said it. Pro players barked worse shits than that. Kobe just happened to got caught on national TV. Shits happen. Apologize accepted. Move on. Stop acting like a saint, hypocrit.

[mr_chin]

Not fair as in the fine was too big, or not big enough?

IMO, the gay community should stop taking "faggot" as a serious insult, when not directed towards them. People use it ALL the time now regardless of the person's sexual orientation. They should stop associating themselves with it. I seriously doubt Kobe was insinuating on the ref's sexual preference.

I am not against gays in any way, but they are doing themselves a disservice by exploding things out of proportion.

Just like the word nigga?

[twitchyzero]

Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?

No, it's not ok to use them. That's why Kobe and the Lakers publicly apologized and even take the extra step to work with GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation).

But then, nobody make a BIG deal outta it. The point is it happened in a moment of emotion--which happens plenty of time if you ever take one step on the court to play COMPETITIVE sport. It's not ok how he said it but people understood why he said it. Pro players barked worse shits than that. Kobe just happened to got caught on national TV. Shits happen. Apologize accepted. Move on. Stop acting like a saint, hypocrit.
thanks for proving my point, but i guess that was in context this time. I guess I am just biased because I have worked with very diverse populations from a somewhat professional standpoint.

I understand these terms get thrown around on the court, I was making general statements how they are used for fun or in frustration not only from Kobe but just generally coming from adults. If you want to justify it because the same word has different meaning, more power to you when you start parenting.