[G]

Hey all,

I have a problem.

I recently got new skates (Mission) for 49.99$ (pretty good deal at SportChek). Anyways, When I tried it on (8E Size) it felt kind of tight all around, and more specifically, underneath and a little to the middle of my foot from my ankle. I told the rep this and he said that it should fit "snug" and that it might expand after they Bake it, and after you break it in. With this, I decided to get them and bake it on the spot (after you bake the skates you cannot return it). Since I just started playing ice hockey, why not get cheap skates? So, after baking them, they felt amazing (mainly cause it was hot and warm in the shoe and it felt really perfectly fit).

The next day I went to stick and puck and they definitely weren't as confortable as they were during baking. So I skated for around 2-2.5 hours and they felt like they were pinching the same spot (underneath ankle, a little to the mid of the foot). After I took them off, the spot was all red and there was also a blister (only the right foot though). I was recommended that I should buy something called Super Feet, which might help lessen this rubbing. So, two days after, I put in the Super Feet and went to a public skate for 1.5 hrs, felt a little pinching again in the same spot, and after the 1.5 hours, my left side was red, around the same magnitude as the first day, and my right foot had ripped the first layer of my skin off (circular shape), so that hurt like a bitch.

My question for all of you is, is there anyway to help attain to this? Should I sell the skates and get new ones? Is there a way to tape my feet so that they wont rip the skin or get blisters? I am around a size 9-9.5 in normal shoe size and these skates fit perfect length wise, and for width, it seems perfect except for that spot, which, is on the inside of the foot only....

Help! :fuuuuu:

[Jgresch]

Every skate will take getting used to. Even after buying brand new skates identical to my old ones, my feet still hurt after the first couple weeks.
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[trancehead]

I had the same problem. Ripped skin on my foot

Most likely it is a bone sticking out on the inside of your foot. ALL skates i had tried on were brutal, and it wasn't until the guy helping me out punched a hole(so its an indent extending OUTWARDS) onto those exact spots did the pain go away. I've been skating and SNPing for about 5 months now and no longer have any of those problems you described.

Sorry to say, but you get what you pay for. I dont believe those skates will be able to hold a punch, but give it a try anyways. The guys at SC probably will not be able to help you out, try cyclone taylors or the Hockey Shop

[SolidPenguin]

Try pushing through the pain a little bit and skate on it a little more. There will be a break in process to all skates, even after baking, some pain might still be there.

If after a few more skates there is an issue in still the same spot you can rebake or get them punched out.
Which sportchek did you buy them from?

If after there is still an issue, bring it in to the Richmond Sportchek/Hockey Experts and we can take a look and we do punching/baking as well in our store.

[G]

I went to the Lougheed Mall SportChek. I've skated on them for...2 sessions, so I guess I will muscle through to 5 sessions first. Sorry for the nooby-ness, but what's punching/punched/punch?

[trancehead]

didnt mean to sound like a snob in my first reply, but when i say you get what you pay for...in terms of skates--quality does definitely come at different price points. This isnt like spending 100$ on a MONSTER CABLE brand HDMI plug that operates the same as a 2$ ebay one.

back to punching, its just basically applying force in a specific area to create a protrusion in the boot AWAY from your foot. So to compensate for that weird bone you may have thats in constant contact with the skate, stress in that area will be relieved for that bone

[G]

^It's okay, I didn't take it as a snob response.

But this "punching" technique sound's like a good plan. Sportchek does this? How much does it cost?

[trancehead]

SolidPenguin looks like the resident SC worker he should know. I've only got mine done once and that was along with my skate purchase at The hockey shop. They're awesome if you want to head to surrey. Otherwise Cyclone taylors might be another good option as well

[Jgresch]

Sportchek probably won't do it. Go to a legit hockey store.
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[skiiipi]

If after there is still an issue, bring it in to the Richmond Sportchek/Hockey Experts and we can take a look and we do punching/baking as well in our store.

Sportchek probably won't do it. Go to a legit hockey store.
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Richmond Centre Sportchek does punching.

[RiceIntegraRS]

yes definately get them punched. i had the same problem b4 when i was getting my skates at the hockey shop. but they baked and punched them for me and i havent had an issue since

[Jgresch]

Lol. Our sportchek won't even cut sticks...
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[G]

Anyone know if metrotown sportchek does this or not? And Approx how much does it cost?

Thanks for all the replies! Very helpful
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[Jgresch]

Should be free.
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[beetea]

lol to the super feet remark, they just up-sold you for no reason at all.

if the pain is on the ankle area, spot punching will take care of it. not some foot bed.

but if its an older pair of missions, it is very common on that spot, just about the arch you'd say? infront of the ankle? come to cyclones and i'll take care of a fellow RS'er. pm me bud.

[G]

^Sick! PM'ed!

[G]

Alright, so I dropped by Cyclone Taylors and they said that I shouldn't punch it. Reason is that my boot is still relatively new and stiff so punching it wouldn't help it long term as it would just form back to normal. They recommended that I should skate on it a few more times and break it in more. If I was to punch it they said that I should do it one or two days before skating to see how well it would work. Sighhhhh guess I gotta man up!

I'm case you were wondering, it costs 5$ to punch and leave overnight.
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[skiiipi]

lol to the super feet remark, they just up-sold you for no reason at all.

if the pain is on the ankle area, spot punching will take care of it. not some foot bed.

but if its an older pair of missions, it is very common on that spot, just about the arch you'd say? infront of the ankle? come to cyclones and i'll take care of a fellow RS'er. pm me bud.

superfeet may not 100% solve the problem
but you should NEVER punch a skate or skiboot without proper footbed

the reason is, with the stock footbed your foot is not stable, your arch is constantly changing shape, and your foot is constantly pronating (most of the time excessively). When you foot pronates, your ankle bone moves inside your skate, as well as your heel rotates, and your foot widens. All this change of shape occures inside your skate/boot.

So if an area in the skate is bother you, and you simply go and "create more space" by punching it out, your are simply creating more problems down the road. yes you will solve the temporary discomfort by creating more space for your foot to move into, but you just caused yourself more instability, and chance for futher problems down the road.

The ONLY TIME you should punch your skate/boot is when you foot is stable.

ask any EXPERIANCE boot fitter (skate or boot), and they will tell you the same thing. Dont always listen to what the hockey player tells you in an independent hockey shop. Most of them are great hockey players, but knows the technology of the product they sell (not always), but most of them do not know basic biomechanics of the foot.

[G]

^Interesting.

Question: What do you think I should do?

My current plan is to keep using SuperFeet and not punch it yet and play 2-5 more skates.

[skiiipi]

My question is
Was the skate size correctly in terms of width, length and forward lean (brand with a more upright pitch in the boot vs a brand with more lean in the boot, not blade pitch)

Superfeet will stabalize ur foot, it will NOT solve any problems if the skate is sized wrong to begin with.

90% of problems in skate fit occurs when the skate is too big. This causes a few problems.

1.the widest part of the foot is no longer in the widest part of your skate, this can cause overall discomfort around the arch

2. Ur heel is moving, which enhances the pain caused by over pronation. (Imagine walking on ur tippy toes all day) which can cause arch cramping.

If ur skate is indeed sized correctly, then continue to wear them with superfeet (make sure they are trimmed/fitted properly). And wear proper hockey socks. Which are moisture wicking and are usually thinner. As moisture build up in socks can cause hot spots in skates as well.

If u think ur fitted wrong, or if continue wearing the skates and it doesn't get better....come see me and I'll give u back the $50 u paid for the missions and we can put it towards a pair of properly fitted skates. (Provided the skates are not trashed and u have ur recipt).
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[SolidPenguin]

Sounds like a good plan. I would definitely do that first. Always use proper footbeds in any performance footwear (even regular shoes), like ski/snowboard boot, skate, cleats etc.

[skiiipi]

Sounds like a good plan. I would definitely do that first. Always use proper footbeds in any performance footwear (even regular shoes), like ski/snowboard boot, skate, cleats etc.

Was waiting to see when you would chime in on this thread. Haha
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[G]

^PM'ed both of you!

Thanks for all the help!

For those wondering how bad the pronation is here is a pic:

Warning:
http://img813.imageshack.us/i/img0092io.jpg/

[Renxo]

try thicker socks maybe... or sell them and put some cash into good skates...

I tried to cheap out with my roller blades some sport check on sale $80 pair, they hurt like a bitch..... Ended up buying a $250 pair and it's heaven on earth skating on them.

[beetea]

My question is
Was the skate size correctly in terms of width, length and forward lean (brand with a more upright pitch in the boot vs a brand with more lean in the boot, not blade pitch)

Superfeet will stabalize ur foot, it will NOT solve any problems if the skate is sized wrong to begin with.

90% of problems in skate fit occurs when the skate is too big. This causes a few problems.

1.the widest part of the foot is no longer in the widest part of your skate, this can cause overall discomfort around the arch

2. Ur heel is moving, which enhances the pain caused by over pronation. (Imagine walking on ur tippy toes all day) which can cause arch cramping.

If ur skate is indeed sized correctly, then continue to wear them with superfeet (make sure they are trimmed/fitted properly). And wear proper hockey socks. Which are moisture wicking and are usually thinner. As moisture build up in socks can cause hot spots in skates as well.

If u think ur fitted wrong, or if continue wearing the skates and it doesn't get better....come see me and I'll give u back the $50 u paid for the missions and we can put it towards a pair of properly fitted skates. (Provided the skates are not trashed and u have ur recipt).
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That's how you determine how a skate fits?

1. Width
2. Length
3. Forward Lean

You're missing one important element but that's cool.

[skiiipi]

That's how you determine how a skate fits?

1. Width
2. Length
3. Forward Lean

You're missing one important element but that's cool.

There is actually a few more elements such as flex, volume, pitch etc.
But in the case of the OP, the problem is most likely caused by the 3 problems I listed above.

Trust me...i've been fitting skates/ski boots for a long time.....I know what i'm doing.

[6thGear.]

^PM'ed both of you!

Thanks for all the help!

For those wondering how bad the pronation is here is a pic:

Warning:
http://img813.imageshack.us/i/img0092io.jpg/

Whoa, that's so weird, cause I have the same problem with my Mission Helium 9500 roller blades. I don't have the blisters like you do, but it made some sort of a protrusion in the same spot, looks kinda like I have a bone sticking out. Right boot causes more than the left. My ice skates (Bauer Vapor XXII) don't do it at all and they are both the same sizes.

What I have to do before roller season starts (every summer) is to take a hair dryer and heat up the area, take a butt end extension and push it out, then stick a ice hockey puck inside and tighten up the boot and let it sit overnight. Try that and see if it helps you

[SolidPenguin]

Older mission boots are notorious for being really narrow. A proper foot bed will help both of you in this situation, before any punching. You really need to keep your foot from over pronating inside your skates

You both have the same issue in that exact same spot because that is where your subtalar joint is. That is the joint where pronation/supination occurs in the foot.
Im assuming your right foot is dominant, that is why the right foot is worse than the left. It is usually a bit wider as well, or you are pushing off it harder because it is your dominant foot.

[6thGear.]

I have a partial tear in my right acl, which probably makes me work my right foot harder. I thought of getting a foot liner thingy, but I'm playing less and less roller these days as I'm sticking to ice more and more. Unless this foot bed thing helps other aspects, then it may interest me.

[G]

Older mission boots are notorious for being really narrow. A proper foot bed will help both of you in this situation, before any punching. You really need to keep your foot from over pronating inside your skates

You both have the same issue in that exact same spot because that is where your subtalar joint is. That is the joint where pronation/supination occurs in the foot.
Im assuming your right foot is dominant, that is why the right foot is worse than the left. It is usually a bit wider as well, or you are pushing off it harder because it is your dominant foot.

So, what do you mean by a proper foot bed? I bought that Super Feet which "apparently" makes your foot in proper place or some bullshit gimmick. It is almost scabbing now so I can perhaps try skating on them again or perhaps look into other skates...

[beetea]

get proper skates that fit your foot dude, im sick and tired of listening to this footbed nonsense

get fitted properly with a pair of skates that fit your properly enough said, missions skates suck hard, they fit 1/10 people PROPERLY because of their shape, not everyone has a perfect foot.

if you dont think this is true, why do you think mission no longer sells skates? oh because bauer bought them? no because the fit of their skates were totally brutal, that area where you have blisters on your foot, superfeet aint gonna help jack all. im sick and tired of listening to the mechanics of the foot nonsense.

if you have a bone spur on your foot, do you wear superfeet to correct it? no you punch that area out, its a simple fix.

have you ever did a custom fit for a pair of skates? didn't think so. only a massive sports store can think a pair of insoles can fix the world.



edit**

oh and taking a jab at the independent hockey shop employee, all we sell is hockey, all we know is hockey. we specialize in hockey. enough said.

[SolidPenguin]

No one ever said not to get it punched, or not to get it properly fitted, or even buy a new skate. We all suggested those things, and even offered to give him his money back to do so. The footbed is always a starting point, it will obviously not fix the world if the skate is improperly fitted to begin with.

If you have been fitting customs skates, and dont put in a proper footbed, i'd hate to be wasting $900 on a pair of custom skates from you.
Go find any professional Boot/skate fitter or any elite level athlete and see what they put in their cleats/skates/boot what-have-you. I can be sure 100% it wont be some cheap 5 cent piece of foam that comes stock with it.

Again, i am not saying a footbed will fix all your problems, but it is always something to have. After that, custom work to the boot will be done. If you dont think the mechanics of a foot comes into boot/skate fitting and skating itself, then i dont think you should be fitting someone for skates.

*edit
If you really dont like superfeet or a footbed, then dont buy them. Simple as that. We have given our knowledge on the subject, and suggestions on what he can do. If OP doesnt like them, he can refund them, even if cut/used. Thats how much they stand behind their product.
Those podiatrists must have some good scam going on then eh, selling custom foot beds at $400-600 a pop. And i bet those dont work either, just another gimmick...

[skiiipi]

get proper skates that fit your foot dude, im sick and tired of listening to this footbed nonsense

get fitted properly with a pair of skates that fit your properly enough said, missions skates suck hard, they fit 1/10 people PROPERLY because of their shape, not everyone has a perfect foot.

if you dont think this is true, why do you think mission no longer sells skates? oh because bauer bought them? no because the fit of their skates were totally brutal, that area where you have blisters on your foot, superfeet aint gonna help jack all. im sick and tired of listening to the mechanics of the foot nonsense.

if you have a bone spur on your foot, do you wear superfeet to correct it? no you punch that area out, its a simple fix.

have you ever did a custom fit for a pair of skates? didn't think so. only a massive sports store can think a pair of insoles can fix the world.



edit**

oh and taking a jab at the independent hockey shop employee, all we sell is hockey, all we know is hockey. we specialize in hockey. enough said.

U just ruins any faith I had left in cyclones.
To say you don't believe in foot biomechanics and you fit skates is an insult to real skater fitters out there.
Sure all you sell is hockey skates, but besides playing hockey, what CREDENTIALS do you have when it comes to understanding how the foot works.
When u said u don't get a foot bed for a bone spur, do u even understand why u get bone spurs. U don't just go and make everything bigger when something rubs, u need to find out WHY that area is rubbing. If your foot is not moving inside ur boot, there will be no rubbing, if ur foot is not stablized no matter how much room u make by punching, ur foot will constantly be moving.
Go ask the owner/most tenured skate fitter in ur shop, and ask him if biomechanics is important in skate fitting.

Fyi, my credentials
Skate fitting since 2003
Certified ski boot fitter thru Masterfit University
Master Boot Fit certificate from Masterfit University
Certified custom footbed maker thru Masterfit University
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[beetea]

omfg theres too much I have to say in this. but you know what I'm going to drop it.

i could careless what you faith you had in cyclones. i think there's are reason why pros come get their skates done up with us, but then again what do we know. they're just playing in the NHL. no big deal.


I've said what I needed to say to OP through a PM. keep doing what you sportchek guys are doing.

[G]

Okay, whoa, I didn't mean anything like this to happen on this thread. All the people on this thread have contributed greatly and have helped me a lot. I just asked about superfeet because I am new to this sport and I don't know if I should be spending my money wisely on that. I have spoken to most of you through PM and I, again, greatly appreciate all your help for a skate noob. Both cyclone taylors and sportchek are good stores and there is no reason to beef. I've made my decision for my next step and I hope this thread would end peacefull!

Again, thanks for all the people who have contributed to help me with my problem.

Go Canucks Go!
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[UFO]

Your scabbing is due in part to overpronation, and in part to poor fitting skates. Your scabbing area is not the subtalar joint as mentioned, although the subtalar joint IS involved heavily with overpronation. Overpronation causes the navicular bone in your foot to deviate down and in, into your boot, which causes excessive pressure at the area you are scabbing. Same thing happens many times in ski boots. Some people also present with an 'accessory navicular' where that bone is more prominent even with overpronation completely corrected. In my experience, reducing (yes, reducing. You can't eliminate pronation nor should you) overpronation by using an insole alone rarely solves your problem.

An insole like Superfeet MAY help you out, a custom insole/orthotic device MAY help you out, and better fitting/punched out skates MAY also help you out. Your problem is from a couple of different factors, and you should also expect the solution to come from more than one avenue as a result. You need to account for your foot's unique biomechanical needs, as well as respect the knowledge of experienced boot fitters when considering what brands and models may be most appropriate for you. I'm just saying, don't expect the one magic bullet to solve all of your problems. In your case, you have a skate you purchased at a bargain price and have been trying to get somebody to make something less than ideal work for you. It may or may not work out.

ps: Lougheed Sportchek were having SICK deals blowing older model skates. I don't doubt that you probably got a decent mid-end skate at $50. I picked up a pair of one95's for $80, too bad they weren't anywhere near my size.

[G]

^Too intense with the anatomy! But, I kind of get a gist of what you are saying.

Update for all: I was hooked up with the awesome people on RS that helped me out at the Richmond SportChek! Got myself fitted and bought the Bauer Supreme One60 skate (Yea, expensive, I know... =( But, hopefully worth it?)

From trying on all the skates, I really liked the Vapor X:30 (I think?), as it was the comfiest, and felt the best on my feet. Sadly, it was way over my budget.

Hopefully nothing happens on my foot again! I will be skating 3 times this week with the new skates. I will try to update this thread on how it feels!

Thanks again for all your contributions.

[trancehead]

Your scabbing is due in part to overpronation, and in part to poor fitting skates. Your scabbing area is not the subtalar joint as mentioned, although the subtalar joint IS involved heavily with overpronation. Overpronation causes the navicular bone in your foot to deviate down and in, into your boot, which causes excessive pressure at the area you are scabbing. Same thing happens many times in ski boots. Some people also present with an 'accessory navicular' where that bone is more prominent even with overpronation completely corrected. In my experience, reducing (yes, reducing. You can't eliminate pronation nor should you) overpronation by using an insole alone rarely solves your problem.

An insole like Superfeet MAY help you out, a custom insole/orthotic device MAY help you out, and better fitting/punched out skates MAY also help you out. Your problem is from a couple of different factors, and you should also expect the solution to come from more than one avenue as a result. You need to account for your foot's unique biomechanical needs, as well as respect the knowledge of experienced boot fitters when considering what brands and models may be most appropriate for you. I'm just saying, don't expect the one magic bullet to solve all of your problems. In your case, you have a skate you purchased at a bargain price and have been trying to get somebody to make something less than ideal work for you. It may or may not work out.

ps: Lougheed Sportchek were having SICK deals blowing older model skates. I don't doubt that you probably got a decent mid-end skate at $50. I picked up a pair of one95's for $80, too bad they weren't anywhere near my size.

are you certain these are one95's? if they are, for 80$ that is a kill

[skiiipi]

Your scabbing is due in part to overpronation, and in part to poor fitting skates. Your scabbing area is not the subtalar joint as mentioned, although the subtalar joint IS involved heavily with overpronation. Overpronation causes the navicular bone in your foot to deviate down and in, into your boot, which causes excessive pressure at the area you are scabbing. Same thing happens many times in ski boots. Some people also present with an 'accessory navicular' where that bone is more prominent even with overpronation completely corrected. In my experience, reducing (yes, reducing. You can't eliminate pronation nor should you) overpronation by using an insole alone rarely solves your problem.

An insole like Superfeet MAY help you out, a custom insole/orthotic device MAY help you out, and better fitting/punched out skates MAY also help you out. Your problem is from a couple of different factors, and you should also expect the solution to come from more than one avenue as a result. You need to account for your foot's unique biomechanical needs, as well as respect the knowledge of experienced boot fitters when considering what brands and models may be most appropriate for you. I'm just saying, don't expect the one magic bullet to solve all of your problems. In your case, you have a skate you purchased at a bargain price and have been trying to get somebody to make something less than ideal work for you. It may or may not work out.

ps: Lougheed Sportchek were having SICK deals blowing older model skates. I don't doubt that you probably got a decent mid-end skate at $50. I picked up a pair of one95's for $80, too bad they weren't anywhere near my size.

Props to someone that knows what they are talking about. Seeing the OP's foot in person, it is the nevicular bone that is dropping. The OP has a serverally over pronated foot. So the area of pressure was quite normal.

Out of curiosity, u work in the sporting goods field? Or sportsmed?
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[UFO]

G: surprised the Vapor lineup was what you found most comfortable. From everything I've heard, the Vapor line fits a lot snugger and narrower, so not the best for a severe overpronator. The Supreme line which you ended up in should theoretically be more comfortable. But here once again is where it is important to trust the knowledge and experience of your fitter to match the minor nuances for each skate and each unique foot type.

trancehead: yes they are one95's and they scanned in at ~$450 but cashier adjusted to the sale price. I had to do a quadruple take before picking them up; apparently last pair in the company

skiipi: I am a Certified Canadian Pedorthist. I deal with feet, biomechanical, and lower body ailments all day everyday for work so I'm confident in saying I know a thing or two about the area. I provide custom orthotics for all different needs and purposes, including skates. But honestly Superfeet's skate product is excellent for what it is, and does 90% of what a custom orthotic would be able to do in most cases when inside a skate environment. As I have a fairly extensive sporting background (and I did work for Sportchek waaay back in the day), I can apply a lot more of what I know from my vocational training to real-life applications for people who use activity for recreation, or high performance athletes.

[mickz]

No one ever said not to get it punched, or not to get it properly fitted, or even buy a new skate. We all suggested those things, and even offered to give him his money back to do so. The footbed is always a starting point, it will obviously not fix the world if the skate is improperly fitted to begin with.

If you have been fitting customs skates, and dont put in a proper footbed, i'd hate to be wasting $900 on a pair of custom skates from you.
Go find any professional Boot/skate fitter or any elite level athlete and see what they put in their cleats/skates/boot what-have-you. I can be sure 100% it wont be some cheap 5 cent piece of foam that comes stock with it.

Again, i am not saying a footbed will fix all your problems, but it is always something to have. After that, custom work to the boot will be done. If you dont think the mechanics of a foot comes into boot/skate fitting and skating itself, then i dont think you should be fitting someone for skates.

*edit
If you really dont like superfeet or a footbed, then dont buy them. Simple as that. We have given our knowledge on the subject, and suggestions on what he can do. If OP doesnt like them, he can refund them, even if cut/used. Thats how much they stand behind their product.
Those podiatrists must have some good scam going on then eh, selling custom foot beds at $400-600 a pop. And i bet those dont work either, just another gimmick...

Why would "proper foot beds" be needed for a custom pair of skates?

As for the pros wearing them, using the Canucks as an example, most players use stock insoles... Ehrhoff is the only exception but he is super picky with all his gear.

[skiiipi]

Why would "proper foot beds" be needed for a custom pair of skates?

As for the pros wearing them, using the Canucks as an example, most players use stock insoles... Ehrhoff is the only exception but he is super picky with all his gear.

When ordering a custom skate, proper footbed is the most important. That's because when all the foot measurement is taken, its done when ur foot is in the neutrual position. Everything from ankle height, arch length, instep height, forefoot and heel width are all measured and sized to the neutrual/unweighted food.

If your foot overpronates, your foot will change shape when ur skating, and that custom skate you ordered will no longer fit ur foot.

A footbed will not stop pronation, nor do you want it to stop pronation, but a proper footbed will stablize the heel/subtaylor joint to keep ur foot as neutral as possible, so that ur skate is fitted to ur foot at its "strongest"/smallest state.

Over 90% of pros use aftermarket/custom foodbeds in their skates, however a lot of them are unbranded. In fact, a lot of prostock skates even come without insoles, because most of these players will already have their own prefered footbed.
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[G]

Update :

So I tried skating on the new skates today. Felt really good for the most part. The previous spot didn't hurt or rub. However, I did get a blister on both feet near the outer back heel area on both feet. I am assuming this is common in breaking in new skates plus not skating for a while?
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[Spidey]

lol to the super feet remark, they just up-sold you for no reason at all.

if the pain is on the ankle area, spot punching will take care of it. not some foot bed.

but if its an older pair of missions, it is very common on that spot, just about the arch you'd say? infront of the ankle? come to cyclones and i'll take care of a fellow RS'er. pm me bud.

super feet rocks!!!! rockssssssssssss!

[Spidey]

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[Spidey]

Why would "proper foot beds" be needed for a custom pair of skates?

As for the pros wearing them, using the Canucks as an example, most players use stock insoles... Ehrhoff is the only exception but he is super picky with all his gear.

when you look at nhl skates they may look like stock insoles but they are specific to the player... even when kane gets his apx saktes made by bauer he gets a mold of his foot and tracings.. so they are 100% custom.. even the footbeds.. just because he doesnt use generic arch supporters etc doesn't mean his insoles are not modified.

Just because you can bake a 900 dollar skate doesn't mean they are custom.. they are still a generic boot that is molded to fit your foot... nothing is altered in height width, or arch support... the best general consumers can do is get aftermarket footbeds that designed for ppl with either flat feet or high arches...

[Wormiez]

Hey guys got a question on getting custom skate tongues. Been having lace bite issues with my current skate.

Recently had Ice Level add a new layer of felt tongue to the skate. The new layer of of felt didn't help when the tongue shifted during strides. Any shops that can replace the entire tongue with a wider one?

[Spidey]

Hey guys got a question on getting custom skate tongues. Been having lace bite issues with my current skate.

Recently had Ice Level add a new layer of felt tongue to the skate. The new layer of of felt didn't help when the tongue shifted during strides. Any shops that can replace the entire tongue with a wider one?

have you tried different types of laces

[Spidey]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lace+bite