[dangonay]

So on CNN they're waiting for Obama to make a "significant" announcement regarding national security, not related to Libya.

My guess - Osama has been caught.

Waiting to see what the "big announcement" is.

[dignatas]

thanks. Guess i will just tune in to this since hockey is over

[iEatClams]

CNN right now on TV says Bin laden is found dead. but has not been 100% confirmed.

[pure.life]

MSNBC to have live coverage: msnbc.com Video Player

[murd0c]

Bin Laden is dead w00t

[MindBomber]

More details and updates are expected momentarily from President Obama.
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[jaguar604]

DING DONG BIN LADEN'S DEAD.

Now what?

[insomniac]

threads merged

[97ITR]

The game of hide-and-seek is finally over but I fear this may provoke Al Qaeda to avenge his death.

[twitchyzero]

took them almost 10 years...i guess he ran out of caves to hide
:troll:

[Berzerker]

Rot In Pieces you donkey fucker.


Berz out.

[MindBomber]

Mods merged threads, thanks.

[97ITR]

In a follow-on statement after tonight's Celebrity Apprentice, Donald to advise the American public to hold celebrations until they see a long-form death certificate.

[The_AK]

so does this mean we win at Afghanistan and everyone can go home?

[The_AK]

won't believe it until i see a video along with an official death certificate

[StylinRed]

very interesting event... cant wait for more info

why dead n not captured? was he bombed? or?



does it really mean anything? since he's already done what he set out to do? (bring down america)

[MindBomber]

We killed Bin Laden. The taliban is still present in Afghanistan and it's still a desperately poor country, lacking infrastructure and run by a completely corrupt government. We just achieved the primary goal of our original insurgency.
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[dangonay]

They're talking about DNA evidence and that the US is in possession of the body. They might have killed him weeks or months ago but didn't release the information until they knew it was him.

[Timewav3zer0]

Lol on fox they say usama bin laden
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[StylinRed]

Killed outside Islamabad in a Mansion... wtf?

[jaguar604]

Killed at a mansion near Islamabad Pakistan.

Cave mansion? :troll:

[CorneringArtist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGiYEWRzTik

[Bouncing Bettys]

pakistan has some explaining to do

[EmperorIS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

[cliffhanger33]

Do we know how he died? Apparently he was killed.

[StylinRed]

prolly his cia handler was told to finally off him :troll:

[dub.g]

Do we know how he died? Apparently he was killed.

this is sig worthy.......


im watching al jazeera live stream, apparently killed in US Drone attack with 20 people


hmm there has been theories as far back as dec 2001 that Osama died back then of diabetes or something

[MindBomber]

I wonder if someone finally decided to reveal his position for the reward..
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[StylinRed]

CNN is now saying that it was a cia operation and not a drone




I dunno how... but there's already a huge crowd of people in front of the White House singing the national anthem etc of the usa..... wtf?

[AlphaKappa]

could be a hoax, there were a lot of times when they thought they captured sadam hussain but it turned out to be people that just looked exactly like him.. Besides, does the us army go hide and seek in the mountaneous desert? Don't think so.. but who knows

[jaguar604]

CNN mentioned something about a human operation?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/29/hitmana3_2.jpg

[MindBomber]

That was when GWB was in power though, the same man who declared victory 3 weeks into a war that lasted almost a decade. Why is it a surprise that GWB's government would announce they captured Sadam when it was actually just a random person they saw on the street. I'm sure they did DNA tests on the body before this announcement. could be a hoax, there were a lot of times when they thought they captured sadam hussain but it turned out to be people that just looked exactly like him.. Besides, does the us army go hide and seek in the mountaneous desert? Don't think so.. but who knows
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[StylinRed]

yeah sounds like Pakistani intelligence and cia were involved in assassinating him (no drones?)

[dangonay]

pakistan has some splainin' to do

Fixed.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MPPzGbeDG-k/SsM3yDIZhEI/AAAAAAAAApc/fkn6tHhfrfE/s400/Splainin%27ToDo.jpg

[StylinRed]

I have to be maybe a :troll: here

but it's a pretty big coincidence that we're coming up on the 10yr anniversary

and next year is an Election year where Obama looks to be on the ropes

hmm

[cliffhanger33]

In a follow-on statement after tonight's Celebrity Apprentice, Donald to advise the American public to hold celebrations until they see a long-form death certificate.

Dude this made me lol sooo hard.

[Stealthy]

Too bad Obama didn't use his Rolling Thunder killstreak

[cliffhanger33]

this is sig worthy.......


im watching al jazeera live stream, apparently killed in US Drone attack with 20 people


hmm there has been theories as far back as dec 2001 that Osama died back then of diabetes or something

There were tons of news showing how weak Osama was. When I heard this new, I thought he died of natural causes or sickness, but turns out he was "killed". Thats whats making me wonder WHO killed him. Was it his own men or was it US who finished the job. If US finished the job, Congratulations to them.

[pure.life]

So many soldiers have been waiting for this moment. Without a question, troops have been wondering what they are doing over in Iraq years after years. Now, with the death of Bin Laden, their sacrifice is finally paying off.

This is a turning point for the global war on terrorism. In many ways, the global war of terrorism which has defined USA, the way we get on airports, the way we live our day to day life maybe changing right now. This is significant development.

We have seen from the last decade, extremist Islam has been gaining popularity but with the demise of Laden, we could be turning into a new face. The Arab Revolution are starting and if the 1990s were defined by radicalism, and the last decade on war on terrorism, the next decade could be a next era. The way we live our lives are definitely going to change with this news. The last decade has been defined by war against Bin Laden, war against terrorism, war against fear, the new decade can be defined by new factors.

The closure of Osama Bin Laden, who has become hated by people around the world will pave way to a new era of living.

[johny]

who cares about him, there are another million waiting to take his place. many of which are already here in N.A. terroists will be around forever and the war will never end.. it'll be a non stop loosing battle.

[cliffhanger33]

It's a big deal because Osama was the leader of Al Qaeda, he started all this crap. I'm pretty dam glad hes dead.

[Hondaracer]

his death means nothing outside of giving US grunts confidence in their efforts

he was a figure head of a regime that will easilly be replaced with somone crazier.

[DiiCii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA

[cliffhanger33]

LOL Timing is everything. Obama sits on this major news till he can upstage Trump on his Celebrity Apprentice your fired moment.

This would be good news-exciting news if it is true. I want to see the smoking dead body, I want to see the medical examiner's report and every other piece of evidence proving it is genuinely him if it is true. I don't believe any of the regular news channels. Seems a little coincidental that campaigns are starting and now this announcement. Im going to completely buy this once Obama makes his announcement tonight.

[EmperorIS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-v2E8j77E

[f.]

Who is Americas Most Wanted now??

[cliffhanger33]

his death means nothing outside of giving US grunts confidence in their efforts

he was a figure head of a regime that will easilly be replaced with somone crazier.
I know what you mean.

Yet Obama has been giving away hundreds of billions more in aid to Pakistan than Bush ever did, and worse, he gave them 85 of our drones a week ago.

Let's stop pretending that Pakistan is our ally and stop arming a country that wants to wipe us off the face of the map.

Interesting that Obama releases this statement -a week after the fact - to distract us from his killing of children in Libya today....

So much crap going on in our world.

[murd0c]

Obama is speaking now

[EmperorIS]

LOL @ /b/ so awesome

[Bouncing Bettys]

so many of the people outside the white house look like they would have been in elementary school when 9/11 occurred

[Vansterdam]

did they kill him or did he die from old age? :fullofwin:

[StylinRed]

I know what you mean.

Yet Obama has been giving away hundreds of billions more in aid to Pakistan than Bush ever did, and worse, he gave them 85 of our drones a week ago.

Let's stop pretending that Pakistan is our ally and stop arming a country that wants to wipe us off the face of the map.

Interesting that Obama releases this statement -a week after the fact - to distract us from his killing of children in Libya today....

So much crap going on in our world.

The US is saying that Pakistani Intellligence helped them in this....

lets not forget that the US supported Bin Laden far more, greater than anyone else Supposedly did

[StylinRed]

they said there was a firefight

so they sent a spec op team in? interesting

[Mr.C]

Holy shit, his speech is sounding just like President Ryan's speech in Tom Clancy's book "Executive Orders".

[insomniac]

osama is blowing up my newsfeed on facebook

[!LittleDragon]

I have to be maybe a :troll: here

but it's a pretty big coincidence that we're coming up on the 10yr anniversary

and next year is an Election year where Obama looks to be on the ropes

hmm


Kinda like how they found Hussein in a freakin hole in the ground not long before the elections

[rocksforsale]

does this mean...
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3ThEW_zAU9UF6UOxUr4a6BpD9eSkJ9 oVJUNHaVaojxQnPz9yJCQ&t=1

sadly, let the next round begin

[EmperorIS]

WHOSE DOWN DRIVING DOWN TO BELLINGHAM TO HONK

and whose down for playing some CS

[Qmx323]

lololol go on 4chan /b/

[JD¹³]

I'm hearing Navy SEALS did the strike.

I'll believe it when I see photos or video.

[Tim Budong]

JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED

[CorneringArtist]

A buddy of mine said this on my Facebook: "Osama dead...10 years hiding...best hide and seek player ever!"

:troll:

http://i.imgur.com/72UyH.jpg

[xmisstrinh]

i've never sat through news so patiently waiting for an announcement before.... HOLY SHIT!

[insomniac]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjsgwwRb81qf8r0wo1_500.png

[whitev70r]

Uh oh ... there goes the sole reason for the blank cheque book to the US army.

[insomniac]

LOL WUT

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjspbH28D1qculojo1_500.jpg

[Hehe]

It would be interesting to know how they actually got the intel on the whereabout of Bin Laden.

Supposedly US was offering 25million USD and green cards to entire family for the info. Maybe someone needed some money???

[van_driver]

All this time we were thinking he's hiding in caves, while he was just balling hard in mansions

[Bouncing Bettys]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoywbIzugYE

[insomniac]

May 1st 1945, Hitler confirmed dead.
May 1st 2011, Osama Bin Laden confirmed dead
:O

[EmperorIS]

May 1st 1945, Hitler confirmed dead.
May 1st 2011, Osama Bin Laden confirmed dead
:O

YEA KNOW WHAT ELSE IS FREAKY

5/1 5/1

5+5 = 10 + 1 = 11!!!

5+5 -1 = 9!!!
OMGG 9/11!!!!!


1945 ?? 2011?? what do you get when you merge these 2 dates .. 1911

and it just so happen when i'm editing this its 9:11 PM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cliffhanger33]

http://i.imgur.com/IDsF2.gif

[TheKingdom2000]

It would be interesting to know how they actually got the intel on the whereabout of Bin Laden.

Supposedly US was offering 25million USD and green cards to entire family for the info. Maybe someone needed some money???

On MSNBC they said Pakistani intelligence told Obama about it and in feb they confirmed it.. and now the bugger is dead.

So it took a few months

[gretzky]

pics or it didnt happen

[shawn79]

http://i.imgur.com/IDsF2.gif

story?

[AlphaKappa]

you know what is fucked up? The illuminati was founded on this day, i don't know about you but that is some FREAKY SHIT GOING ON

[lgman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ47eGSilPc&feature=player_embedded

[cliffhanger33]

So much stuff going on recently.

Im waiting for Harper's speech about this coming up in a few minutes

[shawn79]

you know what is fucked up? The illuminati was founded on this day, i don't know about you but that is some FREAKY SHIT GOING ON

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam

[TheKingdom2000]

According to MSNBC Obama gave the order on friday night and then went on to the correspondence dinner...

Now that is bad ass

[Spidey]

am i the only one that doesn't give a fucking shit? this is more for peace of mind for americans, but shit, it is ONE guy.. one guy it took them a decade to get... and one guy who probably has 10000 followers that will step up in his place.

[MindBomber]

The compound had 12-18ft walls, two security gates and the residents burned their trash rather than allowing it to leave.
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[StylinRed]

am i the only one that doesn't give a fucking shit? this is more for peace of mind for americans, but shit, it is ONE guy.. one guy it took them a decade to get... and one guy who probably has 10000 followers that will step up in his place.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704569404576297941397558496.html?m od=googlenews_wsj
Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

WASHINGTON-- Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is dead, President Obama said. The U.S. has his body in its possession, U.S. officials said late Sunday.

Mr. bin Laden was killed in a joint raid overnight Sunday in Pakistan's northwestern district of Abbottabad, some 40 miles from Islamabad, according to a senior Pakistani official.

The town also is home to a Pakistani military academy. Two American helicopters took part in the operation, the official said. One Pakistani helicopter involved in the raid crashed after it was hit by firing from militants.

President Barack Obama made the announcement late Sunday at the White House.

The development capped a manhunt of more than a decade for the architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that left nearly 3,000 people dead and dramatically altered U.S. foreign policy and the nation's sense of security.

Although Mr. bin Laden was not thought to be a critical operational leader of al Qaeda, he had been the worldwide symbol of the terrorist network.

Because he has been so difficult to find for more than a decade, the killing of Mr. bin Laden is a major victory for Mr. Obama, who demanded an aggressive expansion of Predator drone strikes in Pakistan.

In a recent book on Mr. bin Laden, Michael Scheuer, former chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's bin Laden unit, wrote that the al Qaeda leader's goal was to attack the West, and then to move on to Arab states and Israel, but that "he has given no indication that he expects to live long enough to finish the job."

Instead, Mr. Scheuer wrote, Mr. bin Laden "has anticipated a war of attrition, one that might last decades," so he began passing the torch to younger al Qaeda activists.

[Tim Budong]

According to MSNBC Obama gave the order on friday night and then went on to the correspondence dinner...

Now that is bad ass

no wonder he was so fired up and BURNEDDDDD The DONALD

[StylinRed]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam

lol wtf....??? never heard of this



and didn't Nostradamus say there was going to be a new anti-christ around this time that starts the new WW :D

[Tim Budong]

I want to hear a crowd singing this now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

[Qmx323]

^ thats the song /b/ has on loop lol

[pure.life]

USAMA Bin Laden
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4617/usama.jpg

[LaidbacK]

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1528/22718320177529617121180.jpg

[Tim Budong]

TEAM AMERICA was an AWESOME MOVIE

[van19]

Hitler's death - May 1, 1945
Osama's death - May 1, 2011
- 66 years apart

5+1 - 666

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjug4jQWY1qi2paeo1_400.png

[pure.life]

Obama's speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShLX5nyAamY

[StylinRed]

forgot, 4chan anyway its the pic Soundy posted below\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ about the birth certificate
lol

[TheKingdom2000]

wow, MSNBC reporters just reported that the US did not tell the Pakistani government about the attack because earlier when they told them about other attacks on other al qaeda targets those targets fled.

So the US thinks there was a leak in the Pakistani government... wow, that's a pretty serious allegation.

[cliffhanger33]

So who gets the bounty money for finding Osama? No one mentioned that.

[Soundy]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227357_10150598618935193_904890192_18579626_642686 _n.jpg

[StylinRed]

wow, MSNBC reporters just reported that the US did not tell the Pakistani government about the attack because earlier when they told them about other attacks on other al qaeda targets those targets fled.

So the US thinks there was a leak in the Pakistani government... wow, that's a pretty serious allegation.

other reports said that the Pakistani military joined in the operation and that a pakistani chopper was shot down in the process

see the article i posted just above




there's a photo going around on 4chan that's supposedly a pic of a dead Osama but i dunno seems fake to me since he looks younger and fatter than the last videos we got years ago

[Stealthy]

Hitler's death - May 1, 1945
Osama's death - May 1, 2011
- 66 years apart

5+1 - 666

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjug4jQWY1qi2paeo1_400.png

His death wasn't today, the body was just confirmed to be him today

[Soundy]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_8W57ombPl6k/Tb4_xjk3FQI/AAAAAAAAMWE/7wSrTlSP1kc/s800/2174627_71540178_3309505.jpg

[StylinRed]

His death wasn't today, the body was just confirmed to be him today

no, seems like the official word is that the operation commenced Sunday night local time; we're 12hrs apart


the assumption is that he was dead ages ago but wasn't confirmed/released until today

[GabAlmighty]

So much respect

[asahai69]

Osama bin laden [upper body] will not return.

[palepilsenpin0y]

Osama's funeral is gonna be the bomb!

[Harvey Specter]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227357_10150598618935193_904890192_18579626_642686 _n.jpg


:fullofwin:

[Sid Vicious]

still haven't found this dude
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Mohammedomar.jpg

[AhXian]

Osama Bin Laden shouldn't have used his real address on PSN...

[Manic!]

Me M-16 Vegas 2 weeks ago.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205499_1896499045849_1042799338_32185300_4077851_n .jpg

[Senna4ever]

Finally.

...although I was kinda rooting for him - see how long he could out-smart US forces.

[1exotic]

heh, he was killed but that doesn't mark the end of anything...

the motherfuckin terrorist are probably gonna go crazy suicide bombing in the United States now.

[Tim Budong]

haha friend sent this over lulz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qdvM6bgFUQ

and this too..watch to the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_vvYzuph80

[aznsuperman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKXRjfiG-LM&feature=player_embedded

[mb_]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/05/02/world/02binladen4_683/02binladen4_683-custom11.jpg

[nabs]

for those who are confused by the spelling at times, the name can be spelled both ways since its translated from Arabic, the real way of saying the name is Usama, but with western accent it becomes Osama.

[Tim Budong]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/05/02/world/02binladen4_683/02binladen4_683-custom11.jpg

This picture will become one of the greatest pictures in American history. It closes a chapter on the war on terrorism. The NYFD played a big role during 9/11

its quite moving to this, NYFD can close a chapter of their rich history

[!LittleDragon]

for those who are confused by the spelling at times, the name can be spelled both ways since its translated from Arabic, the real way of saying the name is Usama, but with western accent it becomes Osama.

Yup. FBI spells it Usama as well...

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/usama-bin-laden

[Amuse]

I thought he was dead a long time ago.

[TheHighImperial]

"We got the 911 master mind"
http://i54.tinypic.com/14npzep.jpg

[El Bastardo]

for those who are confused by the spelling at times, the name can be spelled both ways since its translated from Arabic, the real way of saying the name is Usama, but with western accent it becomes Osama.



Yeah I ain't real big on pronouncing/spelling his name the way he would prefer me to.

[murd0c]

This is the pic of him dead that's floating around. It looks fake to me

http://hostinga.hotchyx.com/adult-image-hosting-02/9768993414235b594b414b3644cb87ec7facfcc5d70.jpg (http://hotchyx.com/)

[91LS-VTak]

This will be a great boost for American morale, but probably won't accomplish much else. Sadly, taking out one guy won't stop the extremist mulsims from attacking the west.

Why haven't I seen a "Mission Accomplished" pic yet?

[Manic!]

Just heard on CNN the body has been burred at sea.

[StylinRed]

This is the pic of him dead that's floating around. It looks fake to me

http://hostinga.hotchyx.com/adult-image-hosting-02/9768993414235b594b414b3644cb87ec7facfcc5d70.jpg (http://hotchyx.com/)

yeah that came from 4chan, totally photoshoped


Just heard on CNN the body has been burred at sea.

I highly doubt that... with the influence that the Bin Laden family has on America his body was probably returned to them, secretly


and if it wasnt this whole situation just got more suspect



What's better for the polls.... "We captured this famous terrorist that we've been after for 10 years... oh yeah but we actually killed him... and we have his body... but we don't we actually got rid of it already" hmm...

[cliffhanger33]

http://i.imgur.com/V5mP8.jpg

[quasi]

[/spoiler]
yeah that came from 4chan, totally photoshoped




I highly doubt that... with the influence that the Bin Laden family has on America his body was probably returned to them, secretly


and if it wasnt this whole situation just got more suspect



What's better for the polls.... "We captured this famous terrorist that we've been after for 10 years... oh yeah but we actually killed him... and we have his body... but we don't we actually got rid of it already" hmm...

They couldn't risk faking it. He'd make a video with some current papers, release it and then hell would break loose.

[StylinRed]

They couldn't risk faking it. He'd make a video with some current papers, release it and then hell would break loose.

Unless he always remained a CIA operative :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFRM_ZPIVIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChuJMnvVzi8

or like i said they just returned the body to their BinLaden overlords and to prevent outrage just said they threw him into the sea

[Ch28]

http://i.imgur.com/2FTki.jpg

[mruppal]

i dont believe it, i think its a hoax

[Grandmaster TSE]

LOL Timing is everything. Obama sits on this major news till he can upstage Trump on his Celebrity Apprentice your fired moment.



http://otonly.com/x0411/09fM7.jpg

[m!chael]

.

[StylinRed]

lol you're in denial if you can't see it.... why were interest rates thrown down to next to nothing and loans given out to everyone immediately after 9/11 ? what did that end up causing along with the multi-trillion dollar wars etc etc

it's all dominoes michael, dominoes


hehe,manic check this out sums it up well http://mises.org/daily/3252 and again coupled with the "war on terror" etc... again a domino effect
many have said it before that there was an underlying issue prior to the attacks, the us was in a recession but the 9/11 attacks acted like a tsunami pushing them deep into the hole and then the reactionary "fixes" and "adjustments" + the wars just brought along more issues

dominoes

other schools of thought would claim otherwise but that's the beauty/ugly side of economics or i should say statistics but you cannot deny that from the day of those attacks the us has gone nowhere but down, down, down, poof

[StylinRed]

Lots of info about the operation that brought Bin Laden down in this Forbes article

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/05/02/general-us-bin-laden_8444656.html


since most are lazy i'll quote it


Associated Press
Obama: Al-Qaida head bin Laden dead
By JULIE PACE and MATT APUZZO , 05.02.11, 01:36 AM EDT

WASHINGTON -- Osama bin Laden, the glowering mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that killed thousands of Americans, was slain in a firefight Sunday with U.S. forces in Pakistan, ending a manhunt that spanned a frustrating decade.

"Justice has been done," President Barack Obama said in a dramatic late-night announcement at the White House.
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A jubilant crowd of thousands gathered outside the White House as word spread of bin Laden's death. Hundreds more sang and waved American flags at Ground Zero in New York - where the twin towers that once stood as symbols of American economic power were brought down by bin Laden's hijackers 10 years ago.

Another hijacked plane slammed into the Pentagon on that cloudless day, and a fourth was commandeered by passengers who forced it to the ground before it could reach its intended target in Washington.

U.S. officials said the helicopter raid in Pakistan was carried out by CIA paramilitaries together with the elite Navy SEAL Team Six. The U.S. team took custody of bin Laden's remains, which American officials said were being handled in accordance with Islamic tradition.

The death marks a psychological triumph in a long struggle, although its ultimate impact on al-Qaida is less clear.

The greatest terrorist threat to the U.S. is now considered to be the al-Qaida franchise in Yemen, far from al-Qaida's core in Pakistan. The Yemen branch almost took down a U.S.-bound airliner on Christmas 2009 and nearly detonated explosives aboard two U.S. cargo planes last fall. Those operations were carried out without any direct involvement from bin Laden.

Obama said he gave the order for the operation after receiving intelligence information that he did not further describe.

Former President George W. Bush, who was in office on the day of the attacks, issued a written statement hailing bin Laden's death as a momentous achievement. "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done," he said.

Senior administration officials said the terrorist mastermind was found inside a custom-built compound with two security gates. They said it appeared to have been constructed to harbor one high-value target and that for undisclosed reasons, officials believed the hideout was bin Laden's.

Officials also said they believe the death puts bin Laden's al-Qaida on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse, but there was no word on the whereabouts of bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahri.

The stunning end to the world's most widely-watched manhunt came just months before the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Centers and Pentagon, orchestrated by al-Qaida, that killed nearly 3,000 people.

The attacks a decade ago seemed to come out of nowhere, even though al-Qaida had previously struck American targets overseas.

The terrorists hijacked planes, flew one of them into one of Manhattan's Twin Towers - and, moments later, into the other one. Both buildings collapsed, trapping thousands inside and also claiming the lives of firefighters and others who had rushed to help them.

A third plane slammed into the Pentagon, defacing the symbol of America's military night. Officials have speculated that the fourth plane had been heading for the U.S. Capitol or perhaps even the White House when it crashed in Pennsylvania.

The attacks set off a chain of events that led the United States into wars in Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and America's entire intelligence apparatus was overhauled to counter the threat of more terror attacks at home.

A senior administration official said Obama gave the final order for U.S. officials to go after bin Laden on Friday. The official added that a small team found its quarry hiding in a large home in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. The raid occurred in the early morning hours Sunday.

Administration officials offered some details of the operation.

Based on statements given by U.S. detainees, intelligence officials have known for years that bin Laden trusted one al-Qaida courier in particular, and they believed he might be living with him in hiding. In November, intelligence officials found out where he was living, a huge fortified compound in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. It was surrounded by walls as high as 18 feet high, topped with barbed wire. There were two security gates and no phone or Internet running into the house.

Intelligence officials believed the $1 million home was custom-built to harbor a major terrorist. CIA experts analyzed whether it could be anyone else, but time and again, they decided it was almost certainly bin Laden.

Three adult males were also killed in Sunday's raid, including one of bin Laden's sons, whom officials did not name. One of bin Laden's sons, Hamza, is a senior member of al-Qaida.

Obama spoke with Bush and former President Bill Clinton Sunday night to inform them of the developments.

The president struck a less than boastful tone in his brief announcement, although he said the death of bin Laden was "the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat al-Qaida.

"His death does not mark the end of our effort. There's no doubt that al-Qaida will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must and we will remain vigilant," he added.

Moments after Obama spoke, the State Department put U.S. embassies on alert and warned of the heightened possibility for anti-American violence. In a worldwide travel alert, the department said there was an "enhanced potential for anti-American violence given recent counterterrorism activity in Pakistan."

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Associated Press reporter Kimberly Dozier contributed to this story..

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[asian_XL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Tfu27Bz2w&feature=related

[asian_XL]

oil price per barrel drops $1 ! wow

[sell_item_604]

body buried at sea WTF is this shit

[Hehe]

^

I think the original intention is probably capturing him live. But IMHO, if I were a serious patriotism-craze yankee, I would pull the trigger if I had the chance.

I mean, this dude killed thousands of civilians for no reason and no justification. Why should I give him chance to be judged? It was an operation with real firepower. There was no guarantee that he could be captured alive.

And seriously, if you think US offering historical low interest rate and trillions of debt without knowing how to handle it, you can't be more wrong.

Like you said, dominoes... what US is doing with its economy is basically asking other countries to pay for US expenses. Do you think there is remotely a single country that would thrive if US is in REAL recession? If US stops its consumption power, export-dependent countries are the first to go with US. China, Canada... etc... none of them could survive.

Other major economies tolerated US actions for so long because there is no other thing they can do.

[Ch28]

http://otonly.com/x0411/09fM7.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/rTMaW.jpg

[SuperAman]

body buried at sea WTF is this shit

He probably is alive, Obama did this to generate some good publicity for himself. He did get a good beat down from Trump. He needed some diversion so this is it

[StylinRed]

^

I think the original intention is probably capturing him live. But IMHO, if I were a serious patriotism-craze yankee, I would pull the trigger if I had the chance.

I mean, this dude killed thousands of civilians for no reason and no justification. Why should I give him chance to be judged? It was an operation with real firepower. There was no guarantee that he could be captured alive.


Yeah for No Raisin AT ALL.... What on EARTH Was that all about???? :failed:


And seriously, if you think US offering historical low interest rate and trillions of debt without knowing how to handle it, you can't be more wrong.

Like you said, dominoes... what US is doing with its economy is basically asking other countries to pay for US expenses. Do you think there is remotely a single country that would thrive if US is in REAL recession? If US stops its consumption power, export-dependent countries are the first to go with US. China, Canada... etc... none of them could survive.

Other major economies tolerated US actions for so long because there is no other thing they can do.


rofl... you think that the "USA A-OKAY" ??? rofl.... :bowrofl::bla:lol

[m!chael]

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[StylinRed]

rofl you have no idea what the Mises institute is do you? rofl

but here if you want another

it explains the majority of aspects which led to the economic downfall

such as the wars and the tax cuts and the housing bubble which stemmed from greenspans reactionary move after 9.11

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/running-in-the-red-how-the-us-on-the-road-to-surplus-detoured-to-massive-debt/2011/04/28/AFFU7rNF_story_2.html


and i love captain america ;)


edit: if you're speaking specifically and only 911 and not what it birthed (wars, housing bubble, tax cuts) then sure its easy to say the USA recovered from the 9/11 attacks but again as i've said it was a domino effect (again as i have pointed out, i realize there are other issues as well)


and ultimately you cannot deny where the usa is today, fast approaching #2 and #3 in world economic powers a collapse of the empire


edit: what im saying and what i think some may be misunderstanding is that the attacks set-off a set of policies and actions that greatly worsened the US economy to the point of no return and although the attacks, specifically, caused what can be perceived as Minimal damages overall what it sparked (or indirectly caused) wreaked havoc (even the so called "recession path" prior to 9/11 was perceived as manageable/avoidable but 9/11 pushed them into the red)

and As always, M!chael great job being childish :)

[Mr.C]

body buried at sea WTF is this shit

What, you think they were going to bring him in, embalm him and put him on display at Times Square?

What it sounds to me was that he may have been captured, and then, uh, disposed of. They have his DNA, apparently. Nad tons of pictures, most likely. This dude wasn't Saddam. He most likely went down shooting.

[m!chael]

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[MindBomber]

i dont believe it, i think its a hoax

Then your an idiot, congrats.
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[MindBomber]

What, you think they were going to bring him in, embalm him and put him on display at Times Square?

What it sounds to me was that he may have been captured, and then, uh, disposed of. They have his DNA, apparently. Nad tons of pictures, most likely. This dude wasn't Saddam. He most likely went down shooting.

The government wanted to ensure he was buried within 24 hours of his death as required by islam, a burial at sea was pretty much the only way that would be possible. Besides that, if he were given a traditional burial then his grave could become a site of pilgramage for extremists and that needs to be prevented.
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[StylinRed]

turn into a heaven on earth like your beloved middle east. LOLOLOLOLOL

maybe you haven't noticed (although Im quite sure you have) I've got a major problem with the middle east ;) especially countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, and Israel (what you thought i forgot?)

Yes Yes become second or third behind countries with three times the amount of people. Definitely sounds like a collapse of an empire to me. When the GDP per capita in China reaches that of the USA then I'll be impressed. And even then, It's something good to be said about the Chinese, not something bad to be said about America.


LOL I take that as a compliment StylinVag.

Price parity is what you should be looking @ and a lot of China is already there

but what you should consider is what each american owes in Debt


you're like the guy shaking in the corner going "everythings fine, nothing to see here... move along... OMG PLEASE HELP ME WAAAAAH"

I don't wish america to collapse although it may be fun @ times to infer such on RS but if you can't see how bleak it is for them right now.... :/
you can't keep thinking "they'll pull through again" when the USA doesn't make anything anymore.. It doesn't even manage anything anymore (service sector is pulling out asap) those positions are pulling out to Ireland and other tax havens etc... how do you expect the USA to rebuild? with what?

(where are you btw i thought you were local? but you're speaking like you live down south)

[Hehe]

I did my undergrad in econ. So I'll give you my take on US economy and how it can cause a chain reaction.

First, let's assume that US had nothing to do with 911 and we cut all the conspiracy crap and focus on economy only.

US, or any country for this matter, is interested in nothing else but its own growth. Given the terror caused by 911 attack, US couldn't sit there and do nothing. So they go on rage mode to call war to whoever it was logical. Afghanistan and Iraq were the two.

What do wars bring to US?
Consumption. The billions of dollars that the corporate america needed, a perfect excuse to raise it. Only negative side? people's hatred on US of A because of their actions. Do US give a damn? nah...

Now with all the money transferred from government to corporations (big or smalls) the government needs a way to cover it up cheaply. At a USD@1.5CDN (rate back in 2002 or so) it was very expensive. So we bring down the USD.

What does this bring to US? more profit to corporations as their profit in USD has soared due to their worldwide operation.

Now the whole thing has calmed down but US had an oops on the housing market. Ok, let's ask all countries to increase their exchange rate so US can sink USD even further. Other countries complied with the exception of China. Complied countries, some couldn't handle it because their debt became to expensive (Iceland, Greece, Spain... etc) and do US give a damn? nop... Now China still insists in its currency fixing as it needs the export. What could US do? well... QE2... it sank USD even further against other currencies except RMB.

What benefit do US have? profit and cheap money. Problem of this? inflation to any countries that try to peg to USD. Official reports of inflation in China is about 6%... more realistic estimate from analysts? more like 18%. Protests on wages and prices go on a daily basis. Just because they don't reach to the news (thanks to the great censorship in China) doesn't mean they don't happen.

China is on the verge of creating hyperinflation, while US still fear for a possible DEFLATION. Since when do economists expect deflation when the FED is printing bills like no tomorrow? This is because out of the trillions of dollars, most became hot money for US corporation to mess around with foreign markets for what economists defined as "extraordinary profits." Profits that would be otherwise impossible in a self-maintain market.

What happen if this creates a major collapse of bubble burst outside of US? Any goods, companies, resources start looking for a buyer to unload their loss to prevent further losses. This should create deflation in any countries less affected. As the value of their money (yes, paper money, not gold or valuable goods) increases as the competition goes further daily. But with enough capital in corporate hands, US can absorb all these assets in a bargain price. Once everything comes back to normal, US could sold all these assets to cover their trillions of debts.

Any way to stop this? Not now with trillions of dollars already pumped into the market.

And IMHO, if an economic graduate like me, not even a master or Ph.D could think about this, US have much more capable minds than myself.

What gives US to be able to pull something like this off? the status of USD... it basically gives US unlimited amount of resources. Other countries could do the same... but they simply don't have the trust on their assets to back it up.

[StylinRed]

^^^ the problem with that though, is like i said US Corporations ARENT staying in the US anymore they've been moving... hell they're even moving their patents out of there as recently discussed on 60mintues, etc corporations are getting out; switching headquarters etc and the plan for some of the largest companies are to "become a Chinese company" (CISCO); Transocean (Equitable Resoruces) etc all major corps have been tax dodging by changing their incorporation; News Corp as well (aka FOX NEWS parent company)

[m!chael]

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[Hehe]

^^^ the problem with that though, is like i said US Corporations ARENT staying in the US anymore they've been moving... hell they're even moving their patents out of there as recently discussed on 60mintues, etc corporations are getting out; switching headquarters etc and the plan for some of the largest companies are to "become a Chinese company" (CISCO); Transocean (Equitable Resoruces) etc all major corps have been tax dodging by changing their incorporation

Tax dodging is not news. Corporations do it all the time. Google pays only fractions of its income in tax to IRS, but that doesn't stop them being an US corporation.

Because none of them could ignore US market. As long as this persists, US will still rule. Because no international corporation could thrive without having serious presence in USA.

I'm not pro-America in any way. But I'm just saying that US, as of today, is too big to fail. If it actually does, it will take the whole world down with it.

Until there's a single economy with enough consumption/production/human resource power to replace USA, USA will always dominate the world as superpower. It's a fact that's very hard to ignore like it or not.

[Spoonfg]

Osama buried at sea

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/bin-laden-body-buried-sea

[StylinRed]

Holy fuck you're painful to read. First of all, I don't know if you think you're a celebrity or something but I could care less if you forgot about Israel or not.

Second of all, don't tell me what I should be looking at. I did my undergrad in Finance and I took more econ courses than a normal human should. I also read econ books whenever I have some spare time and I feel like stimulating my mind and I read at least 30 minutes to an hour of financial/economical news every single day. I know my shit. Also, the fact that you're telling me that purchasing power parity is what I should be looking at is telling me that you understand fuck all. Do you even understand what the inflation is like in China right now? You wanna talk PPP, People are having trouble feeding themselves because food prices are skyrocketing. I'm sure econ 101 was really interesting but there's a little bit more to economics than just that.

And I am local. I just slept with enough American girls to feel like I have an honorary citizenship.

so lemme sum that tryst up :bla :bla :bla

i took my undergrad (rofl) in bla bla bla so i can totally ignore what's going on around me and pretend im American because i painted an american flag on my palms :fullofwin:

Stylin: look m!chael America is up in flames!

m!chael: but but but but my undergrad says..... wait... but China has an inflation issue!

like that totally counter balances Americas cesspool of issues right now

we already know China is keeping their currency low, when they allow a slight adjustment as they are doing atm they'll hopefully be able to maintain their overall rise @4% for the year which is where america was @ in '08 which even in their rut they were able to alleviate

anyway time fer bed m!chael i'll be missing your entertainment

[El Bastardo]

A LOT OF HYPERBOLE UP IN HERE

[Great68]

So Osama is dead. Why do I feel less secure?

Seeing the americans outside the whitehouse celebrating his death and singing reminds me of when islamic countries celebrate when bad things happens to westerners.

[whitev70r]

Saddam - check.
Osama - check
Ghadaffy - look out. We got your son, you're next.

[asian_XL]

what if DNA test comes out to be negative

[TheNewGirl]

Now generally I dismiss conspiracy theory sort of thinking but doesn't it strike people as odd that his body's already been dumped at sea?

[unit]

oil price per barrel drops $1 ! wow

oil fluctuates by a dollar all the time...

[LiquidTurbo]

Now generally I dismiss conspiracy theory sort of thinking but doesn't it strike people as odd that his body's already been dumped at sea?

You wanna talk conspiracy theories, there's one floating around that Bin Laden has been dead for months.. and they just wanted to wait for the best time politically to announce it... since Obama's ratings have been plummeting. lol.

[RESN]

http://www.memorylast.net/content/graphics/animated-gifs/obama.gif

[LiquidTurbo]

http://i.imgur.com/IaS5o.jpg

[gdoh]

http://pastehtml.com/view/1ebwc8x.html

http://imgur.com/a/Wpr84

[LiquidTurbo]

lolllllllllll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0AXjAaf3g

[gdoh]

was it really worth it to kill one man spending billions of dollars losing thousands of lives for this one person when you could use those billions to save millions of people... every1 in the states is so excited he is dead but there will be many others to take his place

[dangonay]

He could have been dead for awhile now and it might have taken months to get DNA to prove it was really him. I mean, he's been hiding for so long and getting older, how do we reallly know what his condition is or how he looks today?

I don't buy the conspiracy that Obama waited until a good time to boost his ratings or to help with the election. Too big of a gamble I think, which could really backfire if terrorist attacks suddenly escalated because Osama's followers want revenge.

[dachinesedude]

achievement unlocked :haha:

wow they really went all out with that video, i was laughing my ass off

[hotjoint]

:lol hilarious video

[Mr.C]

The government wanted to ensure he was buried within 24 hours of his death as required by islam, a burial at sea was pretty much the only way that would be possible. Besides that, if he were given a traditional burial then his grave could become a site of pilgramage for extremists and that needs to be prevented.
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Exactly. There was no way they'd put him in the ground so that people could travel and worship his burial site or whatever. They weren't going to cremate him either. So they just flipped him overboard.

Plus, it was noted somewhere that nobody wanted his body, especially not Saudi Arabia.

[Kim Jong Un]

White House be blastin' this joint as we speaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-hPNrKdZI

[The7even]

Well, I'm happy he's gone. Honestly, I'd rather live under US corruption than Osama's idea of Islam.

That guy can go fuck him self. I'm happy he's dead.

[Alpine]

May 1st 1945, Hitler confirmed dead.
May 1st 2011, Osama Bin Laden confirmed dead
:O

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/binladen-mayfirst/

More "coincidences" :)

[Mr.C]

Oh, yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see pictures either. Think about what happened to Che Guevara. They'd really want to avoid that.

[InvisibleSoul]

This guy live-blogged the attack on Osama without knowing it:

http://twitter.com/#!/reallyvirtual

[Manic!]

what if DNA test comes out to be negative

The test has already been done and confirmed.

[belka]

Idiots! They buried Megatron at sea and look what happened. Way to go USA.

[m!chael]

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[EmperorIS]

lol @ all the professors and Nobel prize winners in this thread

[dangonay]

So it was said they built a replica of the mansion at a US base so they could practice the raid over and over in different weather and with different numbers of guards. What are they going to do with this "replica" mansion now that they don't need it anymore?

I think they should send it to Disneyland and make a theme ride out of it. You can do your own raids and the first person to get Osama wins. Or maybe make into a paintball arena.

[urrh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdlygmSJ4

[Stealthy]

Now generally I dismiss conspiracy theory sort of thinking but doesn't it strike people as odd that his body's already been dumped at sea?

It's the USA's way of handling things, after all Megatron was also dumped at sea.

[highfive]

lol @ all the professors and Nobel prize winners in this thread

hahahaha so true. Yet they back up their argument based on inflation and PP etc.. They don't even know the simplest things we buy such as food is a government subsidized product. This applies to both USA and China.

[Harvey Specter]

WOW.....

Rush Limbaugh on Osama bin Laden's death: 'Thank God for President Obama'

Rush Limbaugh began his radio show Monday morning praising President Obama for his leadership in the demise of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

In his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh who has been one of Obama's fiercest critics, gave the commander-in-chief all the glory in the successful mission that ended the life of Public Enemy No. 1.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we need to open the program today by congratulating President Obama," Limbaugh said. "President Obama has done something extremely effective and when he does, this needs to be pointed out. President Obama has continued the Bush policies of keeping a military presence in the Middle East. He did not scrub the mission to get Bin Laden. In fact, it may be that President Obama single-handedly came up with the technique in order to pull this off."

more @ http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/rush-limbaugh-on-bin-ladens-death-thank-god-for-president-obama.html

[Great68]

In the last 10 years I have become more scared of being killed while driving in Surrey, than I have been afraid of being killed by a terrorist.

[Manic!]

This is how Osama really died

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yUTa7wE660&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[LiquidTurbo]

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
--Martin Luther King, Jr

[Ronin]

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
--Martin Luther King, Jr

That's easy to say when you're not involved. If you lost someone close in 9/11, you'd want bin Laden dead in the worst possible way.

[MoBettah]

That's easy to say when you're not involved. If you lost someone close in 9/11, you'd want bin Laden dead in the worst possible way.

Then you've truly missed the meaning of Dr. King's quote.

Those words were spoken for situations just like this one.

[Hondaracer]

"a moment you'll always remember" - I already forgot.

[Bouncing Bettys]

That's easy to say when you're not involved. If you lost someone close in 9/11, you'd want bin Laden dead in the worst possible way.


They are the words of a man who had witnessed and experienced hateful violent/deadly acts at the hands of those who most in that situation would consider his enemies and eventually died for those words. MLK defined the word "involved"

[Gh0stRider]

Revenge of the fallen :troll:
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[Alpine]

Anyone else scared for the next step?
I believe that they chose the time & date to reveal osama's death and that there will be an imminent "attack" on north american soil (probably nuclear... remember all those rumors of nuclear weapons planted in buildings?) which can only mean another war/invasion and the removal of any "rights" or "freedoms" we have left.

[Vale46Rossi]

Wow Revscene political battle makes my head hurt lol

[Ronin]

They are the words of a man who had witnessed and experienced hateful violent/deadly acts at the hands of those who most in that situation would consider his enemies and eventually died for those words. MLK defined the word "involved"

Then you've truly missed the meaning of Dr. King's quote.

Those words were spoken for situations just like this one.

I'm not saying that Dr. King said those words lightly. He experienced hatred and antagonism that very few of us ever have or will.

My statement was directed at people who use quotes like this when they have lost nothing themselves. It's very easy to say violence only begets more violence when you're not involved. We can all be hippies and say peace and love but I know for a fact that if I lost any family or friend to a murderer, I wouldn't stop until I tear that man apart with my bare hands.

I have the utmost respect for Martin Luther King and others like him who can rise above these things but I really don't think most people that say things like they wouldn't kill bin Laden are really grasping how they would feel if that situation was brought to their doorstep.

[LiquidTurbo]

We can all be hippies and say peace and love but I know for a fact that if I lost any family or friend to a murderer, I wouldn't stop until I tear that man apart with my bare hands.


:speechless: yes, I'm sure you would. You've been watching too much 24, Taken, Bourne Identity.

How do you 'know for a fact' when you yourself haven't been in a situation like that? You'd actually murder a murderer, by pulling his limbs away from his body with your BARE hands! Very nice! Are you even strong enough to do such a thing?

You claim that people who choose peace (who are 'hippies' apparently), don't know, or haven't lost anything etc, but how do you even know that?
For example, here's someone who was 'involved'

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/gadiel.son.killed.bin.laden/index.html?hpt=T2
As the father of a 23-year-old son murdered by Osama bin Laden's suicide killers on September 11, I understand the joy expressed by so many Americans today on the death of this monster. But my thoughts dwell more on my son, James, and the thousands of bin Laden's victims; not just the dead of 9/11 but soldiers killed during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Cole attacks, the embassy bombings, Mumbai, and on and on.

So although I don't disapprove of the patriotism and happiness expressed around the nation in the past day, I can't say that I feel the desire to participate in the celebration. Bin Laden's death won't bring James back.

The word "closure" is often used at a time like this, when talking about the loss of a family member, and I suppose that is the way for sympathetic people to show their concern. They are expressing their hope that the victims' families will somehow reach a condition where the pain is lessened by the passage of time.

For me, that pain is as strong as ever. There is never "closure."

Jamie worked for Cantor Fitzgerald, and it was his first job out of college. He had worked there for about six months. He had been a presidential scholar and attended Washington and Lee University. He worked on the 103rd floor.

Beyond that, it is useless to try to describe my son. Just as words can never express my loss, they are equally useless to try to show those who didn't know him how special he was. It is enough to say that he was a gentleman and a gentle man.

I know that I speak for other 9/11 family members when I say that we are in a different place from those who experienced terrorism as attacks on their nation rather than as attacks on themselves.

I also know that I am expressing an almost universally held view among the families that our government failed us on 9/11. Although some, probably a very few, are convinced that the Bush administration "knew" in advance of the time, place and method of the 9/11 attacks, they are the tiniest and most irrational minority. The rest of us know that widespread incompetence and corruption among those officials were the cause.

Yet, no federal official has been held to account. Not one from the Clinton administration. Not one of the Bush administration officials who ignored the Gore Commission's recommendations for improved airline security, nor anyone from the State Department whose officials, in violation of law, regulation and common sense, issued visas for the asking to the 9/11 terrorists.

So, no, I can't celebrate the death of bin Laden. Too many Americans, who were paid to protect this country but failed to, have skated free of blame.

When they are called to account, and when proper measures have been taken to protect us from future attacks, then I will celebrate.





The whole 'eye for an eye' approach is frankly barbaric, and outdated.

[SB7]

Wow Revscene political battle makes my head hurt lol

RS should vote in a leader and start a political party for future elections :)

[33Sobranie]

http://forum.vanpeople.com/attachments/month_1105/11050203339da44119504910dc.gif

[soowu]

imo it was all a setup. think about how much they are celebrating , isnt it odd? its pronounced every where, espicially the media .

[Drow]

IMO

the US is celebrating excessively for the death of just one of the leaders in al qaeda. the war on terrorism isnt over, at least the death of osama will not significantly hinder their operations. Besides, wasnt osama gonna die sooner or later? Over the years ive heard news reports of him becoming ill and whatnot... if the al qaeda were to retaliate for revenge... pretty sure the partyin' will slow down to a halt.

[LiquidTurbo]

From 9/11 To Osama Bin Laden's Death, Congress Spent $1.28 Trillion In War On Terror.

That's a pretty shitty return on investment, if you ask me.

[AAnthony]

From 9/11 To Osama Bin Laden's Death, Congress Spent $1.28 Trillion In War On Terror.

That's a pretty shitty return on investment, if you ask me.

Look at the balance sheets from a few of the major oil companies
Think of all the sales of guns/ammo/armor
And not meaning to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist but the US has made crazy amounts of $$$ from Opium produced in the middle east.

You don't think "they" would go through all this just to lose money do you????

[Ronin]

:speechless: yes, I'm sure you would. You've been watching too much 24, Taken, Bourne Identity.

How do you 'know for a fact' when you yourself haven't been in a situation like that? You'd actually murder a murderer, by pulling his limbs away from his body with your BARE hands! Very nice! Are you even strong enough to do such a thing?

You claim that people who choose peace (who are 'hippies' apparently), don't know, or haven't lost anything etc, but how do you even know that?
For example, here's someone who was 'involved'

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/gadiel.son.killed.bin.laden/index.html?hpt=T2

The whole 'eye for an eye' approach is frankly barbaric, and outdated.

I claim that people who aren't involved and post Dr. King quotes about violence may think differently if they lost someone. It annoys me in the same way that people say RIP to Vancouver gangsters who get themselves killed and people don't think they deserve to die because "all life is precious" and similar sentiments.

Now can the US shift their focus and invade somewhere that will lower our gas prices?

[TOS'd]

He lives on..

[Ronin]

...as @GhostOsama?

[StylinRed]

I know my undergrad and extra curricular activities don't compare to your phd in the internetz but I put it out there to show that I'm not simply talking out of my ass like you like to do. im not the one throwing out claims of my phd though :p

I didn't say that Chinese inflation is the reason why America isn't doing badly. The reference to inflation came when you were telling me that "Price parity is what you should be looking @ and a lot of China is already there." You basically said that a lot of China already has the same standard of living as the USA does. And I'm telling you that no they don't, and even if some do, watch that deteriorate.
are you listening to yourself right now? the usa has a major list of issues right now and you dismiss it and harp on a minor inflation issue. a position which that china is rectifying and one in which the us was in back in 2008; but because china has it its the end of the world for their ppp? rofl


And America indeed has a fuck ton of problems right now, glad we agree

I wake up and open up bloomberg and this is what I see http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-02/u-s-manufacturing-grows-at-slower-pace-as-ism-april-index-falls-to-60-4.html lol god a manufacturing boom thanks to construction and Caterpillar, short lived? CAT who's stuggling with taxes and competition from China (who they admit is a major threat especially since china is taking the EU market) not to mention Mahindra.

Believe me bud, the weak dollar is doing amazing things to the US, as will the Yuan appreciating a substantial amount, which will be inevitable. America will ride this wave and come out on top, stronger than ever.thats the hope. the evidence suggests failure, the hope is that its all butterflies and gumdrops

oh and about slapping me irl, that was funny but im hurt i actually find you likable :p





Oh and latest rumor is that the Al-Qaeda in Libya gave up BinLaden for help to take out Gaddafi hence the bombing on Gaddafis home just prior

dun dun dunn the conspiracies begin

neway c u guys
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[soowu]

ehh i think 9/11 was a set up as well , just so the americans can take the oil.

[Vansterdam]

buried at sea? wtf is he megatron or some shit

[TOS'd]

He's probably still alive, successfully trolled america. Strike when they least suspect.

[97ITR]

Can someone please confirm whether the phrase "Yippee ki-yay, motherf*cker!" was used at any point during the execution of this operation? It's of utmost importance.

[Vansterdam]

how about... BOOM HEADSHOT

[Senna4ever]

Ok...the Megatron references are getting old now...

[Vansterdam]

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/558/pac.jpg

[VSBB6]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVTwcYCXOk&feature=player_embedded

[svelt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVTwcYCXOk&feature=player_embedded

That was a hell of a lot more of a firefight than I envisaged when they announced it. Thought it was a bit more covert and less dramatic.

[jackmeister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVTwcYCXOk&feature=player_embedded

Humvees and APVs? :speechless:

[MG1]

Holy carp, I thought the caption read, Osama Bin Laden captured and killed May 1, 2011 in Abbotsford.

Had to replay..... LOL.


Wow, they really wanted to make sure there was no chance of survival. I think even jesus would have had a hard time making it out of there. of course, we all know jesus would make it out of there............ god bless.

[Ronin]

buried at sea? wtf is he megatron or some shit

It was to respect his religious burial rights. You have to be buried before the next sunrise or something.

[jackmeister]

Holy carp, I thought the caption read, Osama Bin Laden captured and killed May 1, 2011 in Abbotsford.

Had to replay..... LOL.


Wow, they really wanted to make sure there was no chance of survival. I think even jesus would have had a hard time making it out of there. of course, we all know jesus would make it out of there............ god bless.

I have to think this video isnt the actual video.

The SEALs were flown in on two helicopters and rushed into the building, got their target, rushed out then flew out. Dont think they'd spend the time to spray the building and sky with gunfire...in humvees

[parm104]

The United States has nothing to celebrate about...The lives of those who were taken will not be brought back. The broken homes caused by the terrorist acts will not be put back together. The animosity between religious groups will not be reversed...They have simply destroyed the beast that they themselves had created. In time, I'm sure they will create another one...

[seakrait]

i'm just waiting for photos of his dead body to get leaked. at least i'm hoping they get leaked out. just the whole "he's dead and we dumped his body over the side of the boat" seems so... fishy. i guess i just want proof.

i mean, right now aren't we just taking the word of Obama that this happened? i'm not claiming any sort of conspiracy-theory-he's-still-alive type of thing but everyone just up'd and cheered and celebrated all on the President's word. it's not like he doesn't have a vested interest in serving up some good news.

i'd like to think that he's NOT dead and he's tied up in the basement of a secret government building. or something.

[dinamix]

The United States has nothing to celebrate about...The lives of those who were taken will not be brought back. The broken homes caused by the terrorist acts will not be put back together. The animosity between religious groups will not be reversed...They have simply destroyed the beast that they themselves had created. In time, I'm sure they will create another one...


It's called justice or an eye for an eye.
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[parm104]

It's called justice or an eye for an eye.
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LOL! You've missed the point, but A for effort...

Justice teaches you lessons. Justice helps you learn from your mistakes...Bin Laden was a product of American government. He was funded and empowered by American government. That is a fact and is not arguable. As I had already mentioned, they simply destroyed the monster they created. Celebrating the idea that you have fixed a mistake is hardly something worth celebrating. Learning from that mistake and ensuring that it does not happen again, IS something worth celebrating.

Also, I never said that killing Osama was a bad thing. Not at all, it was justified. In fact the only bad thing about it is not having that mo.fo. alive so he can suffer. My comment is a reflection upon the question; what is being celebrated?

[MindBomber]

Your completely correct. The war on terror was engineered as a means of stimulating the economy in preperation for the recession, which was secretly predicted by a U.S. government think tank of economists headed by Ben Stein in 2001. 9/11 was engineered by the U.S. government as a justification for said stimulus. The proceeds from the opium production didn't go the U.S. though, that stayed within the middle east as discrete pay offs to the Afghani government to allow our forces to occupy their country.

This will be my last post ever on RS, as I will be abducted by an agency more secretive than the CIA since I just revealed the truth.

/sarcasm.

Conspiracy theories have no basis in logic.


Look at the balance sheets from a few of the major oil companies
Think of all the sales of guns/ammo/armor
And not meaning to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist but the US has made crazy amounts of $$$ from Opium produced in the middle east.

You don't think "they" would go through all this just to lose money do you????
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[DC5-S]

Glad he's dead that's the celebration
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[b0unce. [?]]

I guess it's really just closure for anyone affected by it.

[mr_chin]

This world is fucked.

What gives americans the rights to go into somebody's country and kill someone without justice upon themselves?

What gives them the right to label someone a terrorist when their action is no better than terror itself?

An eye for an eye, when does it end and who is it to judge who is wrong and right. Killing is killing, no matter what the reason is. This world have no justice, it's all about the money.

[gdoh]

"pics (with time stamps) or it didn't happen".

[murd0c]

Well another pic is this one real or not that is the question??

[gdoh]

http://www.dejimachan.org/b/res/17408.html

[El Bastardo]

This world is fucked.

What gives americans the rights to go into somebody's country and kill someone without justice upon themselves?

What gives them the right to label someone a terrorist when their action is no better than terror itself?

An eye for an eye, when does it end and who is it to judge who is wrong and right. Killing is killing, no matter what the reason is. This world have no justice, it's all about the money.




Theres 3000 people who woke up, went to work, and said "Wow, today is a nice sunny day" about ten years ago who would disagree.

Same goes for the people in Madrid back in 04, Mumbai in 08. Hell, probably a dozen other equally as awful things have gone down. Shit we don't even know about.

Every time you go to the airport and get molested by a TSA agent. Every time you get hauled out of the car at the border and your car tossed.

Who do you have to thank for that?


I'd say the rules are a little different when it comes to Bin Laden, especially seeing as he decided to hit first.

[Gumby]

I was reading an article here: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/inside-operation-brought-osama-bin-laden/story?id=13506413

and it reports that US never told Pakistan what they were about to do. Pakistan scrambled jets to intercept the Blackhawks carrying the SEAL team, but didn't get there in time. Imagine they shot down the choppers!

[Qmx323]

I was reading an article here: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/inside-operation-brought-osama-bin-laden/story?id=13506413

and it reports that US never told Pakistan what they were about to do. Pakistan scrambled jets to intercept the Blackhawks carrying the SEAL team, but didn't get there in time. Imagine they shot down the choppers!

could of been the start of world war 3 :eek1:

[marc0lishuz]

‎"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.".

-Martin Luther King Jr

[LiquidTurbo]

^ lol

[InvisibleSoul]

‎"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.".

-Martin Luther King Jr

"Repost"

-InvisibleSoul

[highfive]

This world is fucked.

What gives americans the rights to go into somebody's country and kill someone without justice upon themselves?

What gives them the right to label someone a terrorist when their action is no better than terror itself?

An eye for an eye, when does it end and who is it to judge who is wrong and right. Killing is killing, no matter what the reason is. This world have no justice, it's all about the money.

Also because they are the largest military and economic power in the world. Simply they can do whatever the fuck they want and nobody can really say shit about it. It's shitty to some people but this is what it is.

[gdoh]

false quote is false

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110502221608AAjCJ3W

[The7even]

I just saw photos of Bin Laden dead.
My sisters boyfriend had a friend in the navy seals and he showed him the photos. Pretty awesome.

[JD¹³]

‎"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.".

-Martin Luther King Jr
While an honourable stance it almost never works out for those who preach it. Ask Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Ghandi, etc how it all worked out for them. It's also not even a real quote by MLK.

It's easy to post quotes like that when you're watching from the sidelines. I bet your stance would be different if your friends or family were killed on September 11th, in the USS Cole, in one of the embassies he bombed, or while fighting in the Middle East.

[gdoh]

which photos are these?? please share cause there are alot of fakes

[LiquidTurbo]

While an honourable stance it almost never works out for those who preach it. Ask Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Ghandi, etc how it all worked out for them. It's also not even a real quote by MLK.

It's easy to post quotes like that when you're watching from the sidelines. I bet your stance would be different if your friends or family were killed on September 11th, in the USS Cole, in one of the embassies he bombed, or while fighting in the Middle East.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/gadiel.son.killed.bin.laden/index.html?hpt=T2

[JD¹³]

I just saw photos of Bin Laden dead.
My sisters boyfriend had a friend in the navy seals and he showed him the photos. Pretty awesome.
I call bullshit. He would be imprisoned if he did, and if he's a SEAL he's not dumb enough to do that. Their contracts contain non-disclosure and secrecy agreements that they must abide by for decades or even until their deaths.

[Gumby]

I call bullshit. He would be imprisoned if he did, and if he's a SEAL he's not dumb enough to do that. Their contracts contain non-disclosure and secrecy agreements that they must abide by for decades or even until their deaths.

Yeah I highly doubt a SEAL operative would let a member of the public see photos.

Obama said they planned on releasing one photograph of the dead Bin Laden.

[Spoonfg]

-The US trains and aids Osama to fight the Soviets.

-Osama thanks the U.S. and remains extremely grateful for our help.

-The Gulf War begins and we take over the Middle East, bombing Iraq throughout the 90's.

-Bin Laden reacts to our flawed foreign policy by using terror tactics.

-9/11 happens. The U.S. responds by invading 2 countries, and by bombing Pakistan along with Yemen.

-We continued to bomb these countries for about 10 years, not realizing our interference with Middle Eastern politics is one of the main reasons why we were attacked on September 11th.

-We bomb Libya and support the rebels. We even consider arming them. In other words, something similar we did with Osama.

-The U.S. murders Osama.

-The U.S. continues to drop bombs on Libya and will continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan until further notice.

-We learned nothing.

[The7even]

I call bullshit. He would be imprisoned if he did, and if he's a SEAL he's not dumb enough to do that. Their contracts contain non-disclosure and secrecy agreements that they must abide by for decades or even until their deaths.

No, I swear , It's true :troll:

[marc0lishuz]

It's easy to post quotes like that when you're watching from the sidelines. I bet your stance would be different if your friends or family were killed on September 11th, in the USS Cole, in one of the embassies he bombed, or while fighting in the Middle East.
Actually, my father was murdered 21 years ago, and I feel that way. But thanks for making your assumption.

[Selanne_200]

I think it's all a matter of perspective. We may view bin laden and his actions as acts of terrorism, which prompted us to invade the middle east but if you were to think the opposite for a second, by us(mainly the US) invading their land and "freeing" them, they may view us the same. The US can go to extreme to fight "terrorism", so who are we to say that they don't have the right to do the same. It's only because we tend to side with the US and the western world so we share their beliefs
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[Greenstoner]

If one Osama is dead, ten Osama will rises. It's never ending, I won't be surprise another attack in the USA in the near future.


2012 anyone ??? :troll:
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[dangonay]

10 Osamas? I highly doubt that. The people who think the death of Osama will stop terrorism are idiots. Likewise, if you think his death will do nothing you're also an idiot. This is a significant event. It would have taken Osama years to develop his networks, contacts and to get a following willing to die for one if his operations. Even if he handpicked a successor, that doesn't mean that people who followed Osama are going to feel the same about his successor. Even amongst the Muslim extremists there's division on how things should be done. I think it will be some time before the next Osama appears.
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[Ronin]

TEN Osamas!?

That would be like 911 times ten!

Yes...9110!



...context

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76R-g01dr5o

[dangonay]

As to the burial of Osama at sea, I believe they would have done it according to proper Muslim customs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU3zVz3i_r4

[91LS-VTak]

This world is fucked.

What gives americans the rights to go into somebody's country and kill someone without justice upon themselves?

What gives them the right to label someone a terrorist when their action is no better than terror itself?

An eye for an eye, when does it end and who is it to judge who is wrong and right. Killing is killing, no matter what the reason is. This world have no justice, it's all about the money.

What gave them the right? Osama openly declared war on the United States and Americans generally don't take kindly to that. Japan can vouch for this.