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CP.AR

05-30-2011, 10:36 PM

First of all: don't be hating. I just can't believe what I saw unfold in front of my eyes today.

Also, I can't say that if some other member was in my position they would do the same thing. If you want to bash. GTFO. Otherwise, feel free to discuss.

As a kid in my elementary school years, I was frequently bullied by my neighbors' kids. Not letting me join in their games, destroying my snowman and shit during winter, and generally just being douchebags; though nothing as serious as stealing per se. Perhaps my youth experience was why I got so enraged by the following event:

I was at an activity today, my group rented out a classroom in a local elementary school for the evening to do a practice for an upcoming event.
Given that it was a sunny day, there were bound to be kids and families out on the school's playground doing their own thing.

As a supervisor, my duties were to ensure that all the younger kids get picked up by their parents before I am allowed to leave - this guarantees me as the last person to leave and that nobody is left alone.

So here I was, standing with a fellow supervisor chatting away while everybody else got into their parents' cars and left the school parking lot. There was a lady, with her two daughters playing basketball in the basketball court. I guess one of them got bored, and took her scooter (those razor ones) for a ride, eventually going to the playground and leaving her scooter on the edge. Keep in mind, this girl was probably 7-10 years old.

All is well, my buddy and I decided it was time to go so we got into our respective cars and decided to leave. Three boys (I'd say grade 7-8) came through the parking lot and into the playground area, spotted the scooter and immediately yelled out "HEY FREE SCOOTER". LOL I thought, and carried on my way.

What amazed me was that they immediately took possesion of it, and even went away of arguing which of the three it should belong to. Eventually they just took the damn thing and started riding it.

Give or take a few minutes later, the little girl noticed it gone and ran after the boys and asked them back for it. Obviously the mom noticed her little girl screaming and yelling, so she joined in asking back for it. I see the boys give the mom a look, decided that she is not really a threat, and just ignored them and said no they found it so it's theirs.

The mom probably had command of English that could only get by ordering a Big Mac Meal at McDonalds. At this point the mom gave up trying to convince the boys, and the little girl looked like she was about to cry.

Really? I thought, 3 boys will make a little girl cry over a scooter? really? and with her mom standing next to her? I approached the mom (in my broken mandarin, that could probably order a Big Mac meal at McDonalds in China) and asked her if the scooter belonged to her daughter, she said yes... but the boys won't give it back. (At this point, the three boys were messing about with it, riding it as if it was theirs)

My buddy and I walked towards the three boys (we did it in a professional manner, we weren't looking for beef... we just don't want to see a little girl be subject to bullying unveiling in front of our eyes).

I asked one of the boys "is this yours?"
"no" was the answer
"do you touch it if it's not yours?"
"no"
"well why were you..."
and the most amazing part of the boy's answer
"We weren't touching it, we just took it for a ride"
me: "so... it's not yours, but you just took it for a ride... you DO realize this is STEALING right? If you guys were a bit older and someone called the cops for this, you WOULD be arrested, charged for theft, and your entire life will be in shambles?"

the "cooler", "leader" of the gang: "it ain't stealing man, we just saw it and took it for a ride." and then proceeded to land a HUGE spit (btw I think he did a BJ earlier to get that amount of liquid in his mouth... it was THAT BIG of a blob).

I told them "you do know spitting is in a form, a violation of the local bylaws right?" you CAN be fined for it.

again, the answer I got was "no way, this isn't singapore, i'm allowed to spit wherever and whenever I want". That kid also did the :fuckyea: pose; no joke.

By this time the other two kids backed off and STFU'd, and left the scooter back where it was and told the little girl to take it back.

The girl got her scooter back, the mom thanked me, and all was well. My buddy and I turned back to our car, and all I hear was spitting behind me. what a bunch of losers I thought, guess they have to learn in a prison shower.

I sat in my car for a bit, and all of a sudden all I see in the rear view mirror is one of the boys approaching the lady/mom. She then came to me and told me that the boys told her to tell me to not call the cops, and they apologized.

WTF. losers without balls.

That is all

This lead me to think... if I was their age, would I have taken the scooter, and refused to return it when the girl's mom was standing next to her? I probably would have - hell I wouldn't have taken it in the first place... what if it belonged to someone of far greater power than me?

Is it just me or are kids attitudes getting worse and worse over the years? I mean... if some dude came and gave me a proper talk on not touching shit that dosen't belong to me, I would STFU, give the stuff back, and walk away - not tell them that riding dosen't involve touching, and then proceed to dump a lump of spit onto the floor.

Christ, I think society is going downhill.
Bring back proper Pokemon.

Question to those with kids: What would have you done if this happened to your child? (ie: the victim)

/rant

kids will be kids...

seakrait

05-30-2011, 10:42 PM

Good job.

I blame the parents entirely. Not enough parenting and the application of consequences (ie: solid backhands to the face).
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Honyoung

05-30-2011, 10:42 PM

im only 19 years old and i can say that the younger generation have no fucking respect
and i honestly think its cause they never got beat as a child

The_Situation

05-30-2011, 10:43 PM

At least those little shits came back and apologized

November

05-30-2011, 10:44 PM

Blame poor upbringing.

I really think people should have to pass an exam before they can have kids.

lacubrious1

05-30-2011, 10:45 PM

Its probably been said a million times....

http://www.american-buddha.com/amaddox.3.jpg

Rogue951

05-30-2011, 10:48 PM

i do hiring of students starting from 15yo, and have definitely noticed a decline in work ethics in the last years. still a few good ones but fewer and fewer. The new generation expects everything to be handed to them ln a silver platter. its sad.

Jobo

05-30-2011, 10:52 PM

fucking brats

Prolowtone

05-30-2011, 10:57 PM

I use to beat up those bullies back when i was little but had freaking respect for others my age or older. But i can tell by babysitting some peoples kids that they are so damn disrespectful in comparison.. But good on you for helping them :)

butter_sashimi

05-30-2011, 11:01 PM

Question to those with kids: What would have you done if this happened to your child? (ie: the victim)

I don't have kids but when I was in elementary school, this badass girl in my class (I'm female as well), bullied and tripped me on purpose. I landed on my knees and couldn't bend them for a week from the bruising. Of course, my mom noticed it. Next day she marched to the bully after school and spazzed at her. She basically complained and asked politely wtf her problem was tripping me to the point I couldn't run. This probably scared her shitless. The next day she complained to me about my mom ranting to her but she didn't touch me for a while after that.

The polite kids nowadays are the ones whose parents bring them to the corner to beltwhip them when they do wrong. Some parents don't put in the effort into correcting their behavior because they are too absorbed with their own lives. It's a pity that the mother you encountered didn't have the balls to fight for her daughter and that her English skills were subpar.

tr0ubl3s0m3x

05-30-2011, 11:38 PM

Razor Ramon HG

05-30-2011, 11:42 PM

If that was my mom, she'd pick up the kids by their ears and falcon punch those goons.

- kT

05-30-2011, 11:49 PM

609 supervision ftw ;)

ilvtofu

05-30-2011, 11:51 PM

Our generation for the most part didn't do this cos we were raised with this
http://www.alivenotdead.com/attachments/2008/11/93620_200811202246021.thumb.jpg

I never hated my parents for it as a kid, all I did was run to my room and cry cause I regretted doing what I did. It wasn't about parent's being abusive and wanting to do this as some sick fetish or anything as the media might try to portray physical punishment as sometimes, in fact it was always the opposite, at least for me.

PiuYi

05-31-2011, 12:09 AM

i wanted to thank OP not just for his incredible patience with these youngsters, but for the fact that he taught these kids a lesson today they will hopefully remember for the rest of their lives. Kudos to you

Wongtouski

05-31-2011, 12:13 AM

I'm quite sure I've heard similar things when I was a kid, I guess instead of hongers it's now the mainland kids getting bullied. It sucks, especially when a typical Chinese kid from Asia don't come across this type of bullying.

Example: When you ask for your ball back, and the kid says "oh sure here you go", and boots it onto the roof of the school. You stand there thinking
1) WTF just happened
2) That ball is not mine, I borrowed it from the classroom (one of those bouncey ones for Cali Kickball)
3) Do I have to pay for it?
4) Will my mom kick my ass? When she found out?

Lol.

Ronin

05-31-2011, 12:21 AM

I'm sure we've all done our fair share of shit like this when we were all kids. Whenever parents aren't around, they think they're the kings of the world. I'm sure we were all just as stupid and adults at the time thought we were a bunch of idiots too.

However, it sounds like these particular dipshits are too stupid to actually know what's going on. Meh...I guess someone has to work at McDonalds.

I use to beat up those bullies back when i was little but had freaking respect for others my age or older. But i can tell by babysitting some peoples kids that they are so damn disrespectful in comparison.. But good on you for helping them :)

When I was young, I beat the shit out of a kid that picked a fight with me. Of course, this was a little kid fight but that kid was leaking blood from his nose and mouth by the time we were done...I think he hurt his hand too because he punched me right on the top of my head like an idiot.

I didn't even throw the first punch but I got in trouble anyways. My parents weren't happy about it. Sure, I defended myself but Chinese parents...I mean, if we get kicked out of school, we're fucked. They told me to tell teachers or whatever so I didn't get suspended or fuck up my grades. Plus the kids that want to fight are usually fucking stupid so they're just screwing me since I had some brains while if they get suspended, it's like vacation. Of course, I was too stupid at the time to figure out that grades don't matter til Gr12 but still...

Fast forward to...I believe grade 8? Some other kid wanted to fight me for some reason...I don't remember why...I'm sure it was stupid. I know I didn't start it but for some reason, he wanted a piece of me although he never really bothered me or my friends before.

He said something like he was going to kick my ass. No one else was around so I thought about just fighting, hoping to keep it under wraps so I wouldn't get in shit. I was thinking about it when he came at me, so I backed up a step. He called me a wimp so I responded with something along the lines of...

...well, I said some things. Mostly questioning why I would fight him since it's not like his grades would suffer if he got suspended and how he was going to lead a sad and pathetic life since he was so stupid. He was going to pump gas in my car or clean the washrooms in the building I worked in. Might have also said a couple things about his parents...and a little racism thrown in to boot.

I made that little fucker cry like a baby. He was in the washroom for the entire last period after lunch. Probably...I didn't see him and I didn't say a word to anyone. In retrospec, I probably should've just fought him. I actually feel worse about some of the stuff I said than if I just kicked his ass.

If I have a boy in the future, I doubt I'll ever tell him not to fight. I think fighting is something boys do. However, I will teach him that words hurt more and for a longer period of time.

If I ever see that kid again, I'll probably apologize. Don't want him to get all Steve Buschemi in Billy Madison on my ass.

TL;DR: Instead of fighting a bully, I called him a stupidface and he wept.

xilley

05-31-2011, 12:27 AM

^ i feel you dude, i used to get bullied by white kids in school, and i defend myself, then my parents gets called into the schools office and have a "chat with my racist teacher" and i know shes racist because she sits all asians on one side and all Caucasian on the other side. wtf?
then i go home and get a bigger spanking LOL wtf man.

i myself aint that old either
but i can already see younger generations turning more and more fucked up each year
even I get stared down going to the mall, who the fuck do those kids think they are, dude your 13, you just hit puberty.
always have a squad of 15+ outside macdonalds at metrotown.. :facepalm:
asking each other for change to buy a drink at mcdixx.. fucked up generations..

Alphamale

05-31-2011, 12:28 AM

Blah

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/102/d/0/Cool_Story_Bro_by_SniperWaffles.jpg

Energy

05-31-2011, 12:29 AM

Its a shame that some of the kids these days have no sense to responsibilty or respect for others. For example, I always see teens on their ipods, phones, etc at the fucking dinner table! That's ridiculous! And the parents were doing absolutley fuck all! There's no more communication (or less) with the parents and children. Parents better step it up and take control before we're all fucked.
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I totally agree with this and do see it all the time now. I was guilty of being on my iphone at a family dinner one time and totally didn't realize and thankfully my older sister texted me and told me to have some respect.

Its just that modern technology and stuff is so ingrained in our lives now that making an effort to communicate with each other is getting harder and harder and I do believe that communication is necessary to raising kids and getting through life in general.

Ronin

05-31-2011, 12:30 AM

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/102/d/0/Cool_Story_Bro_by_SniperWaffles.jpg

I included a TLDR for people with short attention spans.

...although I did forget the "P.S.: INB4COOLSTORYBRO".

Durrann

05-31-2011, 12:54 AM

props to the OP
great patience...
i would've slapped the kid

elementary kids these days.. no discipline at all
they even have iphones and what not.....
didnt even have a cell phone till after highschool

Culture_Vulture

05-31-2011, 01:23 AM

It always makes me wonder what parents teach to their kids at home to make them such cowards and liars. When I was really young my military school trained dad would beat the living shit out of me if I lied, and make me kneel on the concrete floor for two hours at a time. Not gonna lie, he got the whole lying/cheating to get ahead thing out of my system real early on.

But the kids I've grown up with around here are completely different.
When I was in sixth grade my family moved to Surrey and I went to school with a bunch of white kids (that was before north Surrey filled up with rich Asian folks).

Anyways, there was this one white kid that always liked to pick on me because I was the only Asian kid in my class (and one of the few in the entire school). It just so happens that he lived two blocks down in the same direction I'd walk home every afternoon, so when he found out where I lived he started doing real nasty things to me every day after school. One afternoon he waited for me and my brother in the bushes and threw rotten fruit at us. Another time, he hit my brother in the back of the head with an ice ball. Verbal harassment was also pretty common.
I didn't tell my parents about it until many months after the harassment, but I did tell our teacher about it, several times. But he always got off free because he'd just lie about it and tell everyone it never happened and that he didn't even know where I lived.

And then one day me and my brother were playing tetherball after school and him and his foster brother (he was from a big fucked up foster family, I found out later) tried pushing us around. And then I just snapped; I punched him in the stomach and we got into a huge fight, but before it was finished the playground supervisor came and took us both to the principal's office where he denied that he had bullied me and pushed me around, and insisted several times that I was the culprit. I felt like crying when they called my parents and told them that I "hit the other kids on the playground".

Fast forward a few years and this guy ends up in my art class in high school, and with his typical delusional bantering, nobody really liked him. I had hit my growth spur the summer before, so I was much bigger and taller than he was. I guess something in his head didn't quite click, but he tried to pick a fight with me one day after school and I stomped his head into the gravel field. He didn't come to school for a few days after that, but for months after that incident he'd tell everybody that he beat me in a fight and made me cry.

After a while, I just stopped caring, because I figured he'd be a delusional prick all his life and there was nothing I could do about it. But he never put a hand on me ever again.

Prolowtone

05-31-2011, 01:39 AM

If I have a boy in the future, I doubt I'll ever tell him not to fight. I think fighting is something boys do. However, I will teach him that words hurt more and for a longer period of time.

I could not agree more with teaching that as for example. The situation i was often in was not about wanting to fight, but rather sticking up for my friends, as they were kinda scared and not as *strong willed* and other kids were getting their stuff taken lol.

AzNightmare

05-31-2011, 02:05 AM

lol, if I was a lot bigger than that kid (which I assume OP is), I would have just used threat tactic. I don't have that much patience, especially dealing with bullies. I would have told them to either give it back to the girl or I'll physically take it back by force.

When I was a kid, I wouldn't have touched something lying around because I wouldn't know who it belongs to. Might have belonged to some bigger kids that would beat me up if I touched it. And if a mom or any adult figure told me to give it back, that would be intimidating enough to listen. As a kid, I always knew my place when dealing with adults. You don't want to fuck with them.

mb_

05-31-2011, 02:22 AM

I honestly think media (movies, tv shows, video games, etc) combined with shoddy parenting is to blame when shit like this happens.

ae101

05-31-2011, 05:46 AM

op did u tell them about the part where the mexican guy from ABCs primetime "what would u do" show come over & give u a big hand shake/small interview :fullofwin:

but seriously i when i was a kid my dad tells me not to pick up shit thats not yours on the street as it belong to a dead person (im chinese so go figure) as well as to know your place & respect older ppl (doesn't matter if their little older) but mostly i got beat up a lot for being stupid (yes as of today i still get beat once in a while from my dad just as a reminder yes its quite sad)

todays teen some of them are full of shit, i mean back when i was in HS we at least think about the about situation before we doing any stupid (ex:not start a fight in pubic) but todays teens just out of control (just like when i see a gr8 with a iphone 4) i mean do they really need a iphone 4 at there age (overly spoiled)

as well i remember this one time my bud told me he went to rush to played a few games of Maxi Tune while these LB teens started playing not too long ago, so they race my bud a few times lost, then threatens my bud to never come here again like they own the place like the own the place

(i started going to rush when i was in gr8 im 22 & i dun even got the balls to yell like that at rush)

while later he went just to play a few games but this time with me & he saw those LB again, later after a game they just started punching my bud after that one of the workers came in yelling but they wouldn't leave (somehow they try to pin this on us) but eventually they left then i named a random rcmp officer & his number

Vansterdam

05-31-2011, 06:13 AM

younger generation has no respect

gotta beat your kids people!

Vansterdam

05-31-2011, 06:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI

Death2Theft

05-31-2011, 06:52 AM

For those that preach beating the shit out of your kids have you dealt with child services or getting reported before? If so please post your stories.

The_AK

05-31-2011, 07:08 AM

Need to put fear into their eyes, only way they'll learn.

I think the real question we should be asking ourselves is "What can we do as adults?". Obviously posting on RS here how parents are to blame and saying how kids these days lack respect is assessing the problem but how can we approach it?

Talks at different schools?

On that note, for those who mentioned problems at school, I think many teachers just don't care anymore too. I haven't come across any elementary or high school teachers in some time now but maybe many of them just want to teach the class and nothing more. When I went back to Ukraine I learned that schools weren't how they were before, that kids didn't learn as much as they did before and that they have become more rude towards others because teachers weren't putting in as much effort into their jobs and as authoritarian figures as they used to.

So what can we say about this problem?
-kids are becoming more disrespectful towards others and their property
-other forms of media are replacing parents that put improper values into their minds
-lack of discipline by teachers; kid does something stupid and gets suspended-> that means kid gets some free time, how is that supposed to help?

Surely as a group there could be something we could do locally, my biggest fear is having my future kids grow up in a similar environment.

RacingMetro92

05-31-2011, 07:13 AM

I've also noticed the lack of respect in the younger generations. I tutored high school kids last year during grade 12. The younger kids act as if they're big shit, like they've been that way for years.

I walked home a few times and picked up some conversations from elementary school kids-they're swearing...AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEIR IN GRADE 5. I swear some of the kids are spoiled, have Blackberries/Iphones and they don't really have a need for them. I mean, what kid needs BBM or internet on a phone in elementary school?

Kids be growing up way too fast.

Grandmaster TSE

05-31-2011, 07:31 AM

The_AK

05-31-2011, 08:13 AM

Nightwalker

05-31-2011, 08:41 AM

Saddens me that the first reaction from some RSers is kids should be beaten.

melloman

05-31-2011, 09:16 AM

For those that preach beating the shit out of your kids have you dealt with child services or getting reported before? If so please post your stories.

This shit about "child services" really fucking bothers me. Sure there is a way or limit to how much to beat your kids. I'm not talking about hitting your kids with a baseball bat, but really. I was brought up being hit with a metal ruler, having my hair pulled, or having my ear lobes pulled. All of it resulted in pain, yet it taught me right from wrong, good from bad.

Behind closed doors at home is one thing, but in public is another. Sure if your kid is acting out, I would STILL pull my kids hair in public. The generality of people dont', from fear of "child services" coming. But come on, if you don't TEACH YOUR KIDS then they'll grow up like 60% of the fucking asshats out there.

Vale46Rossi

05-31-2011, 10:43 AM

I was raised and taught knowing to RESPECT my elders.

When I was a kid when we had buddy time I respected my fellow buddy because he is a lot older and he was a mentor.

I don't understand how kids have turned nowadays I guess parents have gotten a lot loose....

drunkrussian

05-31-2011, 10:51 AM

Blame poor upbringing.

I really think people should have to pass an exam before they can have kids.

+1

nothing at all to do with generations. If you go to a poor neighbourhood in a third world country in any era, this and much worse, would be happening. It's not right and sucks balls, but it's the truth - nothing generational, just upbringing. At least here you coming up to them and having a conversation would have an affect. In other places this would lead to more trouble.

Gumby

05-31-2011, 11:20 AM

Great job, Captain Picard.

I bet most of you saying you should beat your kids don't have kids.

Did my parents hit me? Yeah a bit, but I was generally well-behaved. My dad had the explosive temper - nice guy most of the time, but you didn't want to see him pissed. My mom was patient and would discipline my sister and I with her talking.

I'm no expert, but there are many other ways to discipline your kids apart from hitting them physically. My son is only 3 years old, and he's very strong willed; I am not looking forward to his teenage years. Sometimes I just want to whack him but that's not the way I want to raise my children.

For those that preach beating the shit out of your kids have you dealt with child services or getting reported before? If so please post your stories.
A distant cousin (he was a teenager at the time) once called the cops on his dad. His dad spent the night in jail. Messed up experience for the whole family.

k3mps

05-31-2011, 02:37 PM

finally someone that took action.
props captain

cruz-in

05-31-2011, 03:10 PM

dont mean to take over your thread :

but it

Reminds me of the time when i saw a few kids kicking around a baby bird and almost killed it. pissed me off soo much. told em to fuck off and if they kick it again i'll kick them in the face.

i felt so bad for the little bird :( . i ended up staying with it for about 15 mins while it got up and kind of jump near the tree where he fell off. I walked away and the mother flew down and watched over her.

:woot2:

damn kids.

cruz-in

05-31-2011, 03:19 PM

i blame it on the parents these days that kids are so fucked up

stop trying to be their friend and actually discipline and teach your fucking kids, then maybe they won't be a useless dumbass dick or bitch in society

i agree.

i remember back in the day if i even dropped a grain of rice, my dad would tell me to mop the floor and smack me over the head.

OR EVEN WORSE

I dont know what it was, but the older filipino generation of parents had this look. Its kind of hard to explain. When i would be at house parties playing with my friends, its a regular that things would get out hand and we'd get loud and troublesome. BUT HOLY FUCK if my dad saw me doing that while he was talking to his freinds, he would just look at me and HOLY SHIT he didnt have to say nothing, do nothing. Didnt even have to lift a hand, and would fucken drop everything and tell my friends that sorry i have to sit down.

Muthafucka scared the shit of me....but i love my dad. :fuckyea:

anybody else have that experience?

dark0821

05-31-2011, 03:52 PM

lol +1

first, good job, cptn picard...
second, ya man, my parents has that look too, they dun have to do much, just gimme that stare and i would just STFU and pick up a text book and start reading...

CP.AR

05-31-2011, 04:03 PM

Thanks for the healthy discussion everyone

Thank god these were only like grade 7-8s, if they were any older, I would just left the place.

But yeah... I never thought today's kids were such "problems".
I work with many teenagers (mr. kT over there would know :D) and to be honest most of them are nice kids, sometimes a PITA, but that's just kids. I never thought that there would be problems like this, nevermind so close to hime.

BTW 2 of the three boys were white, the other one was either very tanned or brown. whereas the girls was Chinese.

I wonder if the victim was a White girl with her dad... how things would have rolled?

To be honest though, I could count how many beatings i've gotten from my parents when I was young. Maybe I was just the sit in the corner and be silent with my gameboy type of kid, but I only rarely got whacked with a feather duster. That being said though, constant scoldings were almost a daily occurance.

Ronin

05-31-2011, 07:08 PM

Saddens me that the first reaction from some RSers is kids should be beaten.

It's not like we're talking about beating kids for our own amusement. We're talking about how to discipline and teach children values and respect.

Would you rather parent like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2My46ZyuVA4&feature=related

Fucking beatniks.

The_AK

05-31-2011, 08:27 PM

It's not like we're talking about beating kids for our own amusement. We're talking about how to discipline and teach children values and respect.

Would you rather parent like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2My46ZyuVA4&feature=related

Fucking beatniks.

loved that scene

AWDTurboLuvr

05-31-2011, 08:28 PM

OP: Good job man...it's nice to see people still step and help others out.

I find that a lot of kids not only have very little respect for elders and pretty much anyone else around them, but they also expect things handed to them and aren't willing to earn their keep. My family wasn't well-off during my teenage years and even though sometimes I would be an ass, I would still remember that I had to do my part to help in the house, whether it would be working at the family business or just helping mom out with getting food ready. I wouldn't complain to my mom or dad about how I can't have nicer clothes or the latest toy, not would I ever talk back at them. These days, I see 13 year old kids whine to their mothers about not having $200+ jeans and other material goods. Worst part, the parents usually cave to them.

Yuffa

06-01-2011, 11:39 AM

All in all I think there is never a strict guide line as to how parents SHOULD raise their kids. Everyone will eventually become a parent one day but not it doesn't mean they all automatically have proper morals, patience or behaviour to properly raise a child.

Kids are getting smarter now a days and they can see through any BS. They do what they see and double standards just ain't gonna cut it. That kid's parents are probably either douche bags themselves or are too selfish to spend anytime with their kid.

Props for showing them some proper manner. Enough to make them feel bad and remember that they can't always get away with everything. ;)

flagella

06-01-2011, 12:44 PM

yea, well kids nowadays... rofl

twitchyzero

06-01-2011, 12:56 PM

Good for the OP for teaching them a lesson...rather have them learn it now then when it comes to something more serious when they are adults..

But I also want to put in the perspectives that may be some of our attitude towards the new generation are just a symptom of age?

You know, music these days suck, kids are such brats these days, the girls are getting sluttier at a younger age. While there is some truth to it, it may just be that a comparsion between kids nowadays and the time when we were kids aren't always that accurate.

I walked home a few times and picked up some conversations from elementary school kids-they're swearing...AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEIR IN GRADE 5. I swear some of the kids are spoiled, have Blackberries/Iphones and they don't really have a need for them. I mean, what kid needs BBM or internet on a phone in elementary school?

Kids be growing up way too fast.
like the title says, kids are just kids. They dont know any better. I'm pretty sure when I was in gr6-7 i swore a lot too. When they get a little older they'll eventually know to watch their language.

and we can't judge them as we did not live through such a rapid technology advancement as they did. I'm sure our parents said the same thing when we were surfing Asian Avenue in elementary school and chatting on ICQ is the coolest thing on earth...."do they REALLY need that?"

Ikkaku

06-01-2011, 02:14 PM

Parents are somewhat responsible for this, not because they're not beating the children as per the majority here, but because they do not want their children to experience what they felt as kids. Yeah, in our early 20's or whatnot, we may all chime in and say 'you have to beat them until they learn their lesson', but when the time really comes will you be beating your kids like your parents did to you?

I can tell you I was never beaten as a child. At most, it was an ear twist, in which they stopped when they heard feint cracking, which did not result in any pain. However, I think what is most important is that I spent a lot of time with my grandparents. They were a main source of my upbringing, and I think that is where I gained respect for the elderly. The kind of people you grow up with are very important. They could be nurturing, or they could be type who neglect/bully.

Typically a nurturing family would teach you what is good and what is bad, and want to be an active part of your life. Where as, a neglecting/unsupportive family will just let you do whatever you want. I think these days a lot of the parents just give up too easily, and all they do is sit back and hope that everything will turn out okay. Sure there are exceptions, such as kids who know how to act in front of family members.

It is up to the current generation to care about the [future] children, to show them what is moral and what isn't, and to be an active part of their lives. Friends are not always the best to learn from, it is up to the parents to provide the basic foundation for them. Yes, it is seemingly cheesy, but it is what it is.

drunkrussian

06-01-2011, 07:57 PM

I wonder if the victim was a White girl with her dad... how things would have rolled?

forget race, if it was a father of any colour, those boys wouldve gotten the fucking business. im not a father but i imagine having your daughter fucked with is about as far as you can push a man
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The_AK

06-01-2011, 08:19 PM

Now that I've had several beers, i think you should have just smacked them with your dicks and been like "Bitch."

Ronin

06-01-2011, 09:20 PM

forget race, if it was a father of any colour, those boys wouldve gotten the fucking business. im not a father but i imagine having your daughter fucked with is about as far as you can push a man
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This.

Those kids wouldn't mess if the father was around. Or any dude for that matter. If I saw someone messing with a friend's daughter like that, I and I'm sure most of you would lay the smack down.

Jegz

06-01-2011, 10:46 PM

What's your job OP? ...youth worker...? :fullofwin:

geeknerd

06-01-2011, 11:25 PM

This.

Those kids wouldn't mess if the father was around. Or any dude for that matter. If I saw someone messing with a friend's daughter like that, I and I'm sure most of you would lay the smack down.

by smack down do u mean like physically hit another mans child?

darkfroggy

06-02-2011, 01:22 AM

I was regularly beat when I was young, but my younger brother now gets off with so much stuff it's unfair. Sucks =(

This happen to any of you?

melloman

06-02-2011, 07:31 AM

I was regularly beat when I was young, but my younger brother now gets off with so much stuff it's unfair. Sucks =(

This happen to any of you?

lolz, Ironically other way around for me.
Older brother got beat and I got beat by parents (I'm white btw) yet they put more trust in him while he was in his teens and he fucked everything up. Left my parents trusting me as far as they could throw me. (Not far....)

Nightwalker

06-02-2011, 08:04 AM

I wasn't beat, parents trust me completely, and I never got in much trouble.

Holy shit right?

drunkrussian

06-02-2011, 09:46 AM

by smack down do u mean like physically hit another mans child?

i would probably scare the LIVING SHIT out of them, by aggresively yelling at them. Then I'd get their addresses/phone numbers and embarass the shit out of their parents as well lol

AzNightmare

06-02-2011, 09:48 AM

I was regularly beat when I was young, but my younger brother now gets off with so much stuff it's unfair. Sucks =(

This happen to any of you?

You should beat your brother instead then. :fullofwin:

minoru_tanaka

06-02-2011, 10:42 AM

If you guys are in your early 20s keep in mind that 10 years ago we were saying the same thing about you guys.

Ronin

06-02-2011, 03:25 PM

by smack down do u mean like physically hit another mans child?

Figure of speech, really.

Do you go to the supermarket and ask where they keep the cans of whoop ass?

Nightwalker

06-02-2011, 03:40 PM

Do you go to the supermarket and ask where they keep the cans of whoop ass?

You've never had a can of whoop ass? :troll:

http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/whoop_ass/whoopass-cola.jpg

November

06-03-2011, 05:55 PM

My sibling & I were beat as kids. Whenever we fought with each other, lied, got in trouble in school, didn't do homework, etc..., the feather duster came out. And it was fucking scary. I've always been a good kid, but not only because I was beat. My father and mother instilled good values in us. It wasn't only about getting good grades, but hugely about respecting others and being a good person in general. In grade 12, I had a midnight curfew that I NEVER broke because I knew I would be in a world of shit (not the beats... that stopped after elementary school pretty much) with my dad. A lot of parents nowadays are letting their kids get away with breaking rules because they're just plain old lazy and don't want to give a fuck.

In a way, fear did make us good kids. I appreciate my dad disciplining us. However, this fear did make me hide things and lie to him a lot about things that he would disapprove of and sometimes these things got me in trouble. If I was able to talk to him rather than fear him, he could have given me his opinion on how to handle the situation. He's a smart man that I respect and I would have listened if he took the time to reason with me.

I'm not saying that kids NEED the beats. If I were to have kids of my own, I don't think I could lay a hand on them. Even ear twisting seems so savage to me. Rather, I'd try to keep my kids close. Talk to them and make sure that they feel comfortable expressing their feelings to me and telling me what they did with their friends that day or where they went to chill. I don't want my kids to feel like they have to hide things from me because I'll be angry. In a way, I DO want to be a friend to my children. I don't want them to feel obligated to come home for dinner. I want them to WANT to come home for dinner.

Parents should always be calm and rational. Think about what example you are setting for your kids when you're going apeshit and beating on them for something they did. My mother was the nurturing parent. She was always full of hugs and kisses, and as a result, I was able to tell her things. But I never feared her because she wasn't the disciplinarian. I guess my parents were a good combo.

Parents need to be aware of what their kids are doing. Kids shouldn't be given all the freedom that they want. Structure and discipline are SO important in upbringing. Now that I am an adult and working F/T, I know that I can't stay out until late partying because I have to wake up in the morning, I know how to manage my money, I excel in my workplace, I show a lot of respect for anyone who deserves it, and I know that I'm a good person in general. Some of my friends who grew up being able to do whatever they want have NO structure in their lives at all. Even though they're good people, they're up all night and sleep during the day, they have poor money management skills, can't wake up for work, can't be on time for shit (PLEASE TEACH YOUR KIDS THE IMPORTANCE OF PUNCTUALITY!!!!), work entry level jobs for years, and suffer, in general, for poor upbringing.

Raising a child isn't about good grades. It's about raising a well-rounded person. I feel bad for all the chinese kids whose parents think that school is everything. It's not. You'll see a bunch of UBC kids graduating from commerce, computer programming or accounting (or whatever programs those nerds are forced into by their parents) who are working shit ass jobs and miserable because they don't know how to properly socialize with people. In order for your kids to know how to get along with others, its important that you let them hang out with their friends and let them PLAY.

Just ranting. My thoughts are unorganized but I'm lazy to edit.

TL;DR, I know.

CP.AR

06-03-2011, 06:38 PM

What's your job OP? ...youth worker...? :fullofwin:

no. I volunteer with Cadets

Gumby

06-03-2011, 09:34 PM

Raising a child isn't about good grades. It's about raising a well-rounded person. I feel bad for all the chinese kids whose parents think that school is everything. It's not. You'll see a bunch of UBC kids graduating from commerce, computer programming or accounting (or whatever programs those nerds are forced into by their parents) who are working shit ass jobs and miserable because they don't know how to properly socialize with people. In order for your kids to know how to get along with others, its important that you let them hang out with their friends and let them PLAY.
Wow I can't agree with your post more - a simple "Thanks" isn't enough. I totally share your thoughts! You're gonna make an awesome mom one day.

geeknerd

06-14-2011, 08:31 AM

GLOW

06-14-2011, 08:48 AM

by smack down do u mean like physically hit another mans child?

i think he means this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lck_sqdIkdE/TbzIab-1ZHI/AAAAAAAACk0/Q6TXKVJek38/s1600/Randy+Couture+vs.+Lyoto+Machida+4.gif

HansonBoy

06-14-2011, 10:15 PM