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First of all: don't be hating. I just can't believe what I saw unfold in front of my eyes today.
Also, I can't say that if some other member was in my position they would do the same thing. If you want to bash. GTFO. Otherwise, feel free to discuss.
As a kid in my elementary school years, I was frequently bullied by my neighbors' kids. Not letting me join in their games, destroying my snowman and shit during winter, and generally just being douchebags; though nothing as serious as stealing per se. Perhaps my youth experience was why I got so enraged by the following event:
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I was at an activity today, my group rented out a classroom in a local elementary school for the evening to do a practice for an upcoming event.
Given that it was a sunny day, there were bound to be kids and families out on the school's playground doing their own thing.
As a supervisor, my duties were to ensure that all the younger kids get picked up by their parents before I am allowed to leave - this guarantees me as the last person to leave and that nobody is left alone.
So here I was, standing with a fellow supervisor chatting away while everybody else got into their parents' cars and left the school parking lot. There was a lady, with her two daughters playing basketball in the basketball court. I guess one of them got bored, and took her scooter (those razor ones) for a ride, eventually going to the playground and leaving her scooter on the edge. Keep in mind, this girl was probably 7-10 years old.
All is well, my buddy and I decided it was time to go so we got into our respective cars and decided to leave. Three boys (I'd say grade 7-8) came through the parking lot and into the playground area, spotted the scooter and immediately yelled out "HEY FREE SCOOTER". LOL I thought, and carried on my way.
What amazed me was that they immediately took possesion of it, and even went away of arguing which of the three it should belong to. Eventually they just took the damn thing and started riding it.
Give or take a few minutes later, the little girl noticed it gone and ran after the boys and asked them back for it. Obviously the mom noticed her little girl screaming and yelling, so she joined in asking back for it. I see the boys give the mom a look, decided that she is not really a threat, and just ignored them and said no they found it so it's theirs.
The mom probably had command of English that could only get by ordering a Big Mac Meal at McDonalds. At this point the mom gave up trying to convince the boys, and the little girl looked like she was about to cry.
Really? I thought, 3 boys will make a little girl cry over a scooter? really? and with her mom standing next to her? I approached the mom (in my broken mandarin, that could probably order a Big Mac meal at McDonalds in China) and asked her if the scooter belonged to her daughter, she said yes... but the boys won't give it back. (At this point, the three boys were messing about with it, riding it as if it was theirs)
My buddy and I walked towards the three boys (we did it in a professional manner, we weren't looking for beef... we just don't want to see a little girl be subject to bullying unveiling in front of our eyes).
I asked one of the boys "is this yours?"
"no" was the answer
"do you touch it if it's not yours?"
"no"
"well why were you..."
and the most amazing part of the boy's answer "We weren't touching it, we just took it for a ride"
me: "so... it's not yours, but you just took it for a ride... you DO realize this is STEALING right? If you guys were a bit older and someone called the cops for this, you WOULD be arrested, charged for theft, and your entire life will be in shambles?"
the "cooler", "leader" of the gang: "it ain't stealing man, we just saw it and took it for a ride." and then proceeded to land a HUGE spit (btw I think he did a BJ earlier to get that amount of liquid in his mouth... it was THAT BIG of a blob).
I told them "you do know spitting is in a form, a violation of the local bylaws right?" you CAN be fined for it.
again, the answer I got was "no way, this isn't singapore, i'm allowed to spit wherever and whenever I want". That kid also did the pose; no joke.
By this time the other two kids backed off and STFU'd, and left the scooter back where it was and told the little girl to take it back.
The girl got her scooter back, the mom thanked me, and all was well. My buddy and I turned back to our car, and all I hear was spitting behind me. what a bunch of losers I thought, guess they have to learn in a prison shower.
I sat in my car for a bit, and all of a sudden all I see in the rear view mirror is one of the boys approaching the lady/mom. She then came to me and told me that the boys told her to tell me to not call the cops, and they apologized.
WTF. losers without balls.
That is all
This lead me to think... if I was their age, would I have taken the scooter, and refused to return it when the girl's mom was standing next to her? I probably would have - hell I wouldn't have taken it in the first place... what if it belonged to someone of far greater power than me?
Is it just me or are kids attitudes getting worse and worse over the years? I mean... if some dude came and gave me a proper talk on not touching shit that dosen't belong to me, I would STFU, give the stuff back, and walk away - not tell them that riding dosen't involve touching, and then proceed to dump a lump of spit onto the floor.
Christ, I think society is going downhill.
Bring back proper Pokemon.
Question to those with kids: What would have you done if this happened to your child? (ie: the victim)
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i do hiring of students starting from 15yo, and have definitely noticed a decline in work ethics in the last years. still a few good ones but fewer and fewer. The new generation expects everything to be handed to them ln a silver platter. its sad.
I use to beat up those bullies back when i was little but had freaking respect for others my age or older. But i can tell by babysitting some peoples kids that they are so damn disrespectful in comparison.. But good on you for helping them
Question to those with kids: What would have you done if this happened to your child? (ie: the victim)
I don't have kids but when I was in elementary school, this badass girl in my class (I'm female as well), bullied and tripped me on purpose. I landed on my knees and couldn't bend them for a week from the bruising. Of course, my mom noticed it. Next day she marched to the bully after school and spazzed at her. She basically complained and asked politely wtf her problem was tripping me to the point I couldn't run. This probably scared her shitless. The next day she complained to me about my mom ranting to her but she didn't touch me for a while after that.
The polite kids nowadays are the ones whose parents bring them to the corner to beltwhip them when they do wrong. Some parents don't put in the effort into correcting their behavior because they are too absorbed with their own lives. It's a pity that the mother you encountered didn't have the balls to fight for her daughter and that her English skills were subpar.
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Its a shame that some of the kids these days have no sense to responsibilty or respect for others. For example, I always see teens on their ipods, phones, etc at the fucking dinner table! That's ridiculous! And the parents were doing absolutley fuck all! There's no more communication (or less) with the parents and children. Parents better step it up and take control before we're all fucked. Posted via RS Mobile
Our generation for the most part didn't do this cos we were raised with this
I never hated my parents for it as a kid, all I did was run to my room and cry cause I regretted doing what I did. It wasn't about parent's being abusive and wanting to do this as some sick fetish or anything as the media might try to portray physical punishment as sometimes, in fact it was always the opposite, at least for me.
i wanted to thank OP not just for his incredible patience with these youngsters, but for the fact that he taught these kids a lesson today they will hopefully remember for the rest of their lives. Kudos to you
I'm quite sure I've heard similar things when I was a kid, I guess instead of hongers it's now the mainland kids getting bullied. It sucks, especially when a typical Chinese kid from Asia don't come across this type of bullying.
Example: When you ask for your ball back, and the kid says "oh sure here you go", and boots it onto the roof of the school. You stand there thinking
1) WTF just happened
2) That ball is not mine, I borrowed it from the classroom (one of those bouncey ones for Cali Kickball)
3) Do I have to pay for it?
4) Will my mom kick my ass? When she found out?
I'm sure we've all done our fair share of shit like this when we were all kids. Whenever parents aren't around, they think they're the kings of the world. I'm sure we were all just as stupid and adults at the time thought we were a bunch of idiots too.
However, it sounds like these particular dipshits are too stupid to actually know what's going on. Meh...I guess someone has to work at McDonalds.
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I use to beat up those bullies back when i was little but had freaking respect for others my age or older. But i can tell by babysitting some peoples kids that they are so damn disrespectful in comparison.. But good on you for helping them
When I was young, I beat the shit out of a kid that picked a fight with me. Of course, this was a little kid fight but that kid was leaking blood from his nose and mouth by the time we were done...I think he hurt his hand too because he punched me right on the top of my head like an idiot.
I didn't even throw the first punch but I got in trouble anyways. My parents weren't happy about it. Sure, I defended myself but Chinese parents...I mean, if we get kicked out of school, we're fucked. They told me to tell teachers or whatever so I didn't get suspended or fuck up my grades. Plus the kids that want to fight are usually fucking stupid so they're just screwing me since I had some brains while if they get suspended, it's like vacation. Of course, I was too stupid at the time to figure out that grades don't matter til Gr12 but still...
Fast forward to...I believe grade 8? Some other kid wanted to fight me for some reason...I don't remember why...I'm sure it was stupid. I know I didn't start it but for some reason, he wanted a piece of me although he never really bothered me or my friends before.
He said something like he was going to kick my ass. No one else was around so I thought about just fighting, hoping to keep it under wraps so I wouldn't get in shit. I was thinking about it when he came at me, so I backed up a step. He called me a wimp so I responded with something along the lines of...
...well, I said some things. Mostly questioning why I would fight him since it's not like his grades would suffer if he got suspended and how he was going to lead a sad and pathetic life since he was so stupid. He was going to pump gas in my car or clean the washrooms in the building I worked in. Might have also said a couple things about his parents...and a little racism thrown in to boot.
I made that little fucker cry like a baby. He was in the washroom for the entire last period after lunch. Probably...I didn't see him and I didn't say a word to anyone. In retrospec, I probably should've just fought him. I actually feel worse about some of the stuff I said than if I just kicked his ass.
If I have a boy in the future, I doubt I'll ever tell him not to fight. I think fighting is something boys do. However, I will teach him that words hurt more and for a longer period of time.
If I ever see that kid again, I'll probably apologize. Don't want him to get all Steve Buschemi in Billy Madison on my ass.
TL;DR: Instead of fighting a bully, I called him a stupidface and he wept.
^ i feel you dude, i used to get bullied by white kids in school, and i defend myself, then my parents gets called into the schools office and have a "chat with my racist teacher" and i know shes racist because she sits all asians on one side and all Caucasian on the other side. wtf?
then i go home and get a bigger spanking LOL wtf man.
i myself aint that old either
but i can already see younger generations turning more and more fucked up each year
even I get stared down going to the mall, who the fuck do those kids think they are, dude your 13, you just hit puberty.
always have a squad of 15+ outside macdonalds at metrotown..
asking each other for change to buy a drink at mcdixx.. fucked up generations..
Invisible sky daddies commanding people to do shit is just so beyond retarded, I feel like punching myself in the balls until I shit my computer chair.
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Its a shame that some of the kids these days have no sense to responsibilty or respect for others. For example, I always see teens on their ipods, phones, etc at the fucking dinner table! That's ridiculous! And the parents were doing absolutley fuck all! There's no more communication (or less) with the parents and children. Parents better step it up and take control before we're all fucked. Posted via RS Mobile
I totally agree with this and do see it all the time now. I was guilty of being on my iphone at a family dinner one time and totally didn't realize and thankfully my older sister texted me and told me to have some respect.
Its just that modern technology and stuff is so ingrained in our lives now that making an effort to communicate with each other is getting harder and harder and I do believe that communication is necessary to raising kids and getting through life in general.
It always makes me wonder what parents teach to their kids at home to make them such cowards and liars. When I was really young my military school trained dad would beat the living shit out of me if I lied, and make me kneel on the concrete floor for two hours at a time. Not gonna lie, he got the whole lying/cheating to get ahead thing out of my system real early on.
But the kids I've grown up with around here are completely different.
When I was in sixth grade my family moved to Surrey and I went to school with a bunch of white kids (that was before north Surrey filled up with rich Asian folks).
Anyways, there was this one white kid that always liked to pick on me because I was the only Asian kid in my class (and one of the few in the entire school). It just so happens that he lived two blocks down in the same direction I'd walk home every afternoon, so when he found out where I lived he started doing real nasty things to me every day after school. One afternoon he waited for me and my brother in the bushes and threw rotten fruit at us. Another time, he hit my brother in the back of the head with an ice ball. Verbal harassment was also pretty common.
I didn't tell my parents about it until many months after the harassment, but I did tell our teacher about it, several times. But he always got off free because he'd just lie about it and tell everyone it never happened and that he didn't even know where I lived.
And then one day me and my brother were playing tetherball after school and him and his foster brother (he was from a big fucked up foster family, I found out later) tried pushing us around. And then I just snapped; I punched him in the stomach and we got into a huge fight, but before it was finished the playground supervisor came and took us both to the principal's office where he denied that he had bullied me and pushed me around, and insisted several times that I was the culprit. I felt like crying when they called my parents and told them that I "hit the other kids on the playground".
Fast forward a few years and this guy ends up in my art class in high school, and with his typical delusional bantering, nobody really liked him. I had hit my growth spur the summer before, so I was much bigger and taller than he was. I guess something in his head didn't quite click, but he tried to pick a fight with me one day after school and I stomped his head into the gravel field. He didn't come to school for a few days after that, but for months after that incident he'd tell everybody that he beat me in a fight and made me cry.
After a while, I just stopped caring, because I figured he'd be a delusional prick all his life and there was nothing I could do about it. But he never put a hand on me ever again.
If I have a boy in the future, I doubt I'll ever tell him not to fight. I think fighting is something boys do. However, I will teach him that words hurt more and for a longer period of time.
I could not agree more with teaching that as for example. The situation i was often in was not about wanting to fight, but rather sticking up for my friends, as they were kinda scared and not as *strong willed* and other kids were getting their stuff taken lol.
lol, if I was a lot bigger than that kid (which I assume OP is), I would have just used threat tactic. I don't have that much patience, especially dealing with bullies. I would have told them to either give it back to the girl or I'll physically take it back by force.
When I was a kid, I wouldn't have touched something lying around because I wouldn't know who it belongs to. Might have belonged to some bigger kids that would beat me up if I touched it. And if a mom or any adult figure told me to give it back, that would be intimidating enough to listen. As a kid, I always knew my place when dealing with adults. You don't want to fuck with them.
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