[Culverin]

Interesting read:
Two decades ago amateur scientist Maurice Ward invented a material that could resist the force of 75 Hiroshimas. So why haven't we all heard about it?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/5158972/Starlite-the-nuclear-blast-defying-plastic-that-could-change-the-world.html

[StylinRed]

what a shame


bogged down by corporations that just want to steal it for themselves

like the intermittent wiper blade

or the latest one seen (some HS kid made a stabilization device for autos that would prevent flipping etc he doesn't have patents and he's already let GM etc take a look @ it and they all say "we're interested because we've been planning something like this for awhile)


quite a shame this old guy could have been a billionaire



what's weird is... google results are barren...

and the guys website is gone



sounds like these guys got in the way

http://emancipationfromslavery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Stonecutters.jpg



because u know the US wouldnt want their enemies to be able to get a hold of it (they'd coat their bunkers in it and laugh)

[RFlush]

Captain America's shield is made out of this shit!

[StylinRed]

hmm seems like he tried to sell his plastic coating during the BP Spill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/tees/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8725000/8725973.stm

[orange7]

ward is dead now, so does anyone know the formula?

reverse engineer anyone?

[Ronin]

That stuff doesn't look very thick if it's just that little square. Are they going to actually build things out of this eventually?

Are people going to get hoods and trunk lids made out of this shit?

...or are ricers going to buy stickers to make theirs into "starlite look"?

[StylinRed]

ward is dead now, so does anyone know the formula?

reverse engineer anyone?

where did you read that?

and the article says his family knows how to make and samples have been stolen

[Manic!]

The problem is not government or big companies it's the inventor. you see it on Dragons Den all the time. He would rather have a large piece of a small pie (or no pie in this case) rather than a small piece of a large pie.

[MarkyMark]

Sounds like this dude needs to rethink his business strategy
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[Grandmaster TSE]

if its really capable of what they say, this stuff is just magic
think about all the benefits that everyone can use

[murd0c]

Just think about what NASA could do with this stuff, It could be the future of space travel.

[orange7]

where did you read that?

and the article says his family knows how to make and samples have been stolen

youtube video comment

:blush:

[dangonay]

I've got a carburetor you can put on any car and get 100 MPG guaranteed. I can't market it because the oil companies are getting in the way, but if you want I'll send you the plans and you can build it yourself.

[Alatar]

^ SIGN ME UP!

[murd0c]

^ lets see this!!!

[JD¹³]

Just think about what NASA could do with this stuff, It could be the future of space travel.
It probably would have saved the lives of everyone onboard the Columbia.

[murd0c]

It probably would have saved the lives of everyone onboard the Columbia.

Yep no questions asked it would of and for use for the military as well. Like and better then a Kevlar vest.

[MoBettah]

I've got a carburetor you can put on any car and get 100 MPG guaranteed. I can't market it because the oil companies are getting in the way, but if you want I'll send you the plans and you can build it yourself.

Does it look like this,

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/files/2008/04/mr-fusion.jpg

[Alatar]

^ Just make sure you don't go over 88mph.

[StylinRed]

I've got a carburetor you can put on any car and get 100 MPG guaranteed. I can't market it because the oil companies are getting in the way, but if you want I'll send you the plans and you can build it yourself.

yeah except this guys stuff was actually tested by Nasa and ICI and the military etc

[t8v6]

Sounds like this dude needs to rethink his business strategy
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been 20 years since he created it...and yet he hasn't make a single penny on it :/
defence contractors and corporations must've asked for ridiculous deals, or the guy is extremely stubborn...

[fliptuner]

^ Just make sure you don't go over 88mph.

That's the FIRST thing I'd be doing!!! :fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

[optiblue]

20 years and he still hasn't sold the idea? just sell it for 10 million and call it a day :)

[orange7]

20 years and he still hasn't sold the idea? just sell it for 10 million and call it a day :)

he's a very greedy guy. he's looking at more than billions of dollars.

[Graeme S]

he's a very greedy guy. he's looking at more than billions of dollars.
It's the material of the future; it's an impossible material. It's easily worth more than a billion dollars.

[classified]

I've got a carburetor you can put on any car and get 100 MPG guaranteed. I can't market it because the oil companies are getting in the way, but if you want I'll send you the plans and you can build it yourself.

did you watch that gas documentary where there were guys that made those one sold to a car company the other people that invented it died

[shawn79]

stone cutters probably using this material to build bunkers with when judgement day comes they will be hiding under bunkers made out of that material

[SlowRider]

this is a bullshit article...this is so fake its not even funny.......

[haha13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxqFyDugqs4

[dangonay]

yeah except this guys stuff was actually tested by Nasa and ICI and the military etc

I was in talks with NASA myself for a new type of rocket fuel I invented that would use half as much as now to launch the shuttle. We were close to signing a deal, but NASA didn't like my terms and backed out. If you ask NASA about it they will deny everything, but it did happen.

did you watch that gas documentary where there were guys that made those one sold to a car company the other people that invented it died

Never saw that one, but it sounds like all the others. The oil company bought it. A car company bought it......and so on. Same urban legend, just with a slightly different twist.

[Nightwalker]

It's the material of the future; it's an impossible material. It's easily worth more than a billion dollars.

It's worth nothing without it in the hands of a corporation with the resources and connections to produce, market, and sell it.

[StylinRed]

he has a blog and youtube page

hasnt been updated in ages though

http://mauricewardstarlite.blogspot.com/

http://www.youtube.com/user/mauricewardstarlite

[StylinRed]

I was in talks with NASA myself for a new type of rocket fuel I invented that would use half as much as now to launch the shuttle. We were close to signing a deal, but NASA didn't like my terms and backed out. If you ask NASA about it they will deny everything, but it did happen.


except publications like Janes did their own tests and published them

Jane's International Defense Review, April 1, 1993, p. 328; "Taking the Heat: Astonishing Results with New Material"

Modern Plastics, June 1994; "NASA, DOE To Test Nuke-Proof Resin"

etc



you can be a doubting thomas all ye want but you cant deny that credible institutions have tested and confirmed results and even say so



edit: been googling

a lot of people think its either a hoax or that the british/us govt. had classified starlite so no news could be found

anyway this guy with his own website itold did investigating of his own

http://itotd.com/articles/653/starlite/

it has a lil more information its interesting if you're interested in this story ;)

apparently the itold.com guy even had a discussion with the Janes defense article author

and she also fears that the product may have been taken by the govt and classified and she says that was also a fear of Maurice Ward the inventor hence why he got/allowed publicity for it back in the 90s

[Graeme S]

It's worth nothing without it in the hands of a corporation with the resources and connections to produce, market, and sell it.

Which is exactly why he's not being unreasonable in asking for half the profits. This material could literally create industries with a removal of the limitation of current materials' heat tolerances. If I'm going to make hundreds of already-rich people rich (the shareholders) why shouldn't I go along for the ride?

[Manic!]

It's the material of the future; it's an impossible material. It's easily worth more than a billion dollars.

As of now it's worth nothing to him and his family. He died with out making a penny off it. I would rather have a small piece of a large pie than no pie at all.

[StylinRed]

^^^ theres no news of him being dead except for supposedly a youtube comment

and a guy who created/edited a wiki page

you would think the attention he's gotten would result in a news article somewhere about his death (hell the BBC did a story on him last June because he said he had an idea for the BP spill)

[Manic!]

^^^ theres no news of him being dead except for supposedly a youtube comment

and a guy who created/edited a wiki page

you would think the attention he's gotten would result in a news article somewhere about his death (hell the BBC did a story on him last June because he said he had an idea for the BP spill)

Either way he has made zero off his invention.

[Death2Theft]

Hilarous that he would think BP would shell out billions for his invention when they are just pumping concrete in to plug the leak which costs fuck all.
Total overkill like titanuim chopsticks.

[dangonay]

except publications like Janes did their own tests and published them

you can be a doubting thomas all ye want but you cant deny that credible institutions have tested and confirmed results and even say so


I want to see these tests. And I want to see original articles, published by the testers themselves, not a "quotte" or "reprint" hosted by someone else.

[rsx]

lol he got too greedy, now he's "softened his business practice" idiot.

[minoru_tanaka]

Just so you guys know, I'm the one, holding back car that runs on water and perpetual energy generators. I'm hiding the fact that Obama was born in Mecca.
Tupac, Biggie, MJ and Elvis live in my basement studio making records
The Philadephia experiment is AKA the building of my yacht and 9/11 was me doing renovations (sorry my hand slipped)
I know people tell you guys that it's big oil, the jews, the aliens, the US govenment etc.
Well that's sort of true but they're only doing it because I told them to. Yes the conspiracy is that deep.

[jsx]

yo minoru, im really happy for you, im going to let you finish but maurice ward had the best plastic of all time!

[minoru_tanaka]

yo minoru, im really happy for you, im going to let you finish but maurice ward had the best plastic of all time!

Yes but I've forced everybody to use plastic that can only stop a lead bullet. One lead bullet then they have to buy a new vest and no one will ever figure it out

[AzNightmare]

Lol, this guy should have went on Dragon's Den or Shark Tank. Get some help from people that know how to make big money.

[minoru_tanaka]

Lol, this guy should have went on Dragon's Den or Shark Tank. Get some help from people that know how to make big money.

I would have told them to screw him over

[frozen]

Which is exactly why he's not being unreasonable in asking for half the profits. This material could literally create industries with a removal of the limitation of current materials' heat tolerances. If I'm going to make hundreds of already-rich people rich (the shareholders) why shouldn't I go along for the ride?

lol you make it sound like the guy's gonna live forever. What the fuck does it really matter to him how much it's worth after he's gone. Might as well get a small share and live the rest of his life wealthy instead of wasting time getting nothing.

[Manic!]

Lol, this guy should have went on Dragon's Den or Shark Tank. Get some help from people that know how to make big money.

Kevin would have told him to license it, take a royalty, sit at home and relax.

[StylinRed]

Kevin would have told him to license it, take a royalty, sit at home and relax.

he would have ripped him off and told him to take a 7% royalty because that's a "standard" rate

[Nightwalker]

The value of something is only as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.

Over 20 years, no pay off. Obviously his approach hasn't been working out.

[Manic!]

he would have ripped him off and told him to take a 7% royalty because that's a "standard" rate

7% of a billion is a lot more than 100% of nothing.

[minoru_tanaka]

7% of a billion is a lot more than 100% of nothing.

That's why he got nothing instead

[Slifer]

The guy is a genius but lacks common sense lol.

[melloman]

Did you guys bother reading the whole thing? Before commenting maybe read it..

Ward's conditions were unusual. He wouldn't sign confidentiality agreements, which made government and defence companies uncooperative. In joint ventures, he insisted on keeping 51 per cent. 'If they'd wanted to buy it outright, they could have had it. But they always wanted a licence, and if they wanted that they had to sign an agreement that says they won't plagiarise or reverse engineer. If they don't sign that, they get a sample and then they reverse engineer and why would they bother to get a licence?' This was why NASA never signed up. It's why BAE didn't, or Boeing, or the dozens of other corporations and military establishments who got somewhere in negotiations but never to the end.

He wanted 51% in joint ventures ONLY, companies could outright buy it from him but didn't. They only want a sample so they could reverse engineer it. Thus the agreement for no plagiarise or reverse engineering.

He might've been greedy to the aspects of outright selling it, but cmon, a product that could withstand anything thrown at it, who wouldn't ask a billion dollars for it. IMHO I think he might've been abit greedy, but I would hold out the same. I wouldn't just go and hand out licenses so people can re-create my shit.

If this product is 100% real, it could completely change the ballistics industry for good.

[Manic!]

Did you guys bother reading the whole thing? Before commenting maybe read it..



He wanted 51% in joint ventures ONLY, companies could outright buy it from him but didn't. They only want a sample so they could reverse engineer it. Thus the agreement for no plagiarise or reverse engineering.

He might've been greedy to the aspects of outright selling it, but cmon, a product that could withstand anything thrown at it, who wouldn't ask a billion dollars for it. IMHO I think he might've been abit greedy, but I would hold out the same. I wouldn't just go and hand out licenses so people can re-create my shit.

If this product is 100% real, it could completely change the ballistics industry for good.

Potential profits don't mean anything. There is still a lot of work that has to be done before it can be made into a commercially viable product.

[melloman]

I understand that. Yet he could make these at a small scale with the manchinery he had. All they would need would be a replica of the machine, just bigger.

Not like he has to do too much marketing for the product.. Having worldwide/global companies knocking at his door. Plus he had testing done to varify the strengths of the material.

[Manic!]

I understand that. Yet he could make these at a small scale with the manchinery he had. All they would need would be a replica of the machine, just bigger.

Not like he has to do too much marketing for the product.. Having worldwide/global companies knocking at his door. Plus he had testing done to varify the strengths of the material.

Some things don's scale well and the guys like 75 plus years old.

Just take the 7% or what ever they are offering so he and future generations of his family never have to worry about money again.

[melloman]

Fair enough I guess.. I'd take something like 20% =P forever.. (pass it on by generation) lolz

[orange7]

but cmon, a product that could withstand anything thrown at it

I think it can only withstand heat.