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: Three dead in Granville Street traffic accident


Harvey Specter
06-21-2011, 04:17 AM
Holy shit, the driver must have been hauling ass...look at the car.

http://www.vancouversun.com/4977983.bin

VANCOUVER -- Three people were killed and another was left in critical condition Monday evening after a passenger car slammed into the back of a transit bus, according to Vancouver police.

The red Toyota Corolla was travelling southbound on Granville Street around 6 p.m. when it rear-ended the bus at Nanton Avenue.

“Witnesses reported seeing the car travelling at a high rate of speed and weaving through traffic shortly before the collision,” wrote VPD spokesperson Const. Jana McGuinness in a press release.

Police say the bus was in the process of making a scheduled stop when it was hit by the vehicle.

After the collision, the car spun around backwards and came to rest in bushes on the southwest corner of the street. The engine compartment was pressed far back toward the passenger cabin.

Matthew Millar drove upon the scene moments after the accident and rushed to help.

He said the car was on fire and billowing black smoke when he arrived.

"The most that we could do was just get the flames out and wait for the appropriate equipment to arrive," he said.

Two of the vehicle's occupants died on the scene and another died on the way to hospital. Police have not yet confirmed the identity of the victims.

None of the passengers on the bus were hurt in the accident.

Claudio Puyssegur said he was riding on the bus when it was hit. He was dozing off at the back of the bus on the passenger side when he was awoken by the impact.

“It was pretty traumatic,” Puyssegur said of the accident.

"We got out of the bus and we saw the car was smoking and there was… pandemonium," he said. “The fire department got there really quick, as did the ambulance.”

Granville Street between 25th and 28th avenues was closed to all traffic immediately after the accident, causing buses to be re-routed between 41st and King Edward.

Police expected to re-open the street by 11 p.m.

mrobinson@vancouversun.com

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/Three+dead+Granville+Street+traffic+accident/4977829/story.html#ixzz1PucXPLe0

Hot Karl
06-21-2011, 04:40 AM
wow. an accident that bad at 6pm and no collateral damage. what are the chances of that?

cheapskate
06-21-2011, 04:46 AM
How fast does one have to go to cause that kind of impact? 100KM/HR in the city? I don't think I've ever seen a car that mangled from an accident in Vancouver.

StylinRed
06-21-2011, 04:54 AM
100km/h seems too slow for that kind of damage...

that's horrific i hope the passenger in critical survives

ilvtofu
06-21-2011, 07:44 AM
Yeah that looks fast, and it looked like part of the car got wedged under too, looks fucking horrific

sonick
06-21-2011, 08:07 AM
It's terrible that lives were lost, but come on, 6pm is pretty much right in rush hour, on one of Vancouver's main streets, weaving in and out of traffic in a Corolla at high speeds; that is just idiocy... Thank goodness nobody else was hurt.

Qmx323
06-21-2011, 08:27 AM
Sad, but weaving in and out of traffic AND going at least 100+ at 6pm on Granville?

RIP....

BoostNseveN
06-21-2011, 08:33 AM
100km/h may not seem that fast in the city. But rear ending a halting bus at 100km/h is probably like slamming into a building.

mercyboy
06-21-2011, 09:36 AM
wow.......heart goes who lost there love ones....R.I.P

Phat_R
06-21-2011, 11:39 AM
poor passengers! what a terrible tragedy.

Santofu
06-21-2011, 11:54 AM
I hope that crash doesn't involve with the stuck gas pedal.

xyz123
06-21-2011, 12:11 PM
... why would you go that fast in the city!? Especially on granville? RIP and condolences to the family, remember to drive safe everyone.

GLOW
06-21-2011, 12:16 PM
glad no one on the bus was hurt

- kT
06-21-2011, 02:36 PM
driver = dumbass. there's no reason to be driving fast enough to get your car that fucked up at 6pm when everybodys going home from work, much less on granville street

RIP to the passengers, no sympathy for the driver

maxxxboost
06-21-2011, 05:08 PM
Need more info, but RIP.
Seriously. What was so important that they needed to go that fast.

optiblue
06-21-2011, 05:56 PM
must be faster than 100km for sure!

Euro7r
06-21-2011, 08:43 PM
If this retard is weaving in and out of traffic at a high speed, it's given an accident is bound to happen. I'm not even going to feel sympathetic that's he/she died. You live by the consequences of speeding.

Zyzz
06-21-2011, 10:33 PM
wtf i didnt know corolla can go that fast

but they are built like just sheets of metals thou, sat in one and felt really dangerous

FerrariEnzo
06-21-2011, 11:18 PM
Need more info, but RIP.
as mean as I may sound, I would never say "Rest In Peace" to idiots that do this in rush hour traffic...


any pics of the bus damage?

freakshow
06-21-2011, 11:24 PM
RIP to the passengers, no sympathy for the driverIt's most likely that the passengers also knew exactly what they were getting into. I doubt they were screaming 'let me out' the whole time, although I guess it's possible..

SupraMan604
06-22-2011, 12:14 AM
Why do people do such stupid things glad no one else was hurt...rip

spideyv2
06-22-2011, 12:33 AM
Condolences to the passengers, driver was an idiot.

- kT
06-22-2011, 12:44 AM
It's most likely that the passengers also knew exactly what they were getting into. I doubt they were screaming 'let me out' the whole time, although I guess it's possible..

hard to say, but either way, the only person who had control was the driver

Nlkko
06-22-2011, 12:55 AM
Good riddance. Good thing it hit a bus instead of other cars or there'd be more casualties.

Those old Corollas are really squishy though. Probably why the damage looks worse than it actually is.

7seven
06-22-2011, 06:09 AM
CTV news mentioned it was a family from Alberta in the car. Who drives like a maniac in rush hour like that, especially with family in the car

Qmx323
06-22-2011, 07:45 AM
http://www.vancouversun.com/4978021.bin?size=620x400s

If thats the bus that it hit.... Damn. Barely a dent.

Can't be, it has to be the camera angle. No way there's only damage like this to the bus.

FerrariEnzo
06-22-2011, 08:38 AM
http://www.vancouversun.com/4978021.bin?size=620x400s

If thats the bus that it hit.... Damn. Barely a dent.

Can't be, it has to be the camera angle. No way there's only damage like this to the bus.

that has to be the bus, look at the red bumper under it..

Bus - 1
Toyota - 0


wow.. imagine your the car next to it when it slammed into the bus..

Phat_R
06-22-2011, 09:40 AM
Manufacturer: New Flyer
Model: D40LF
Year of manufacture: 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995,1996,1998
Cost:$250,000-$343,000
Dimensions:
Length: 12.4m
Width: 2.57m
Height: 3.1m
Gross vehicle weight:17,200kg
Engine: Detroit Diesel, 250/275hp
Transmission:Voith, 3 speed automatic


Toyota Collora curb weight == ~1000 kg

That's the reason why

kuri
06-22-2011, 09:46 AM
http://www.vancouversun.com/4978021.bin?size=620x400s

If thats the bus that it hit.... Damn. Barely a dent.

Can't be, it has to be the camera angle. No way there's only damage like this to the bus.The trolley buses are freaking heavy. Check Translink's fleet data:
http://www.translink.ca/~/media/documents/bpotp/projects/expansion_upgrades/fleet%20pictorial.ashx

The regular ones are 14200kg TARE and 19200kg GVWR. The articulated ones are even heavier at 19800kg TARE and 29000kg GVWR. When you hit something that heavy, good luck.

freakshow
06-22-2011, 09:48 AM
hard to say, but either way, the only person who had control was the driver
That doesn't make the other people innocent.

MrGoodbar
06-22-2011, 09:57 AM
How the fuck did they build up that much speed during such a busy time of day? In my mind, the driver probably tried to pass on the right lane where the bus stopped.

The mass of the bus is why I yield and avoid travelling along side. Scary ass bus drivers some times don't see you.

Rogue951
06-22-2011, 10:07 AM
That is the bus. Damage was completely on the right corner/ just behind the wheel well. Looks like the corolla tried to mount the sidewalk in a last ditch effort to avoid.

You can't see it from that angle but the back right panel is almost folded in half and that corner is very crumpled. The hardware inside the compartment which is mostly electronics was all bent inside.


http://www.vancouversun.com/4978021.bin?size=620x400s

If thats the bus that it hit.... Damn. Barely a dent.

Can't be, it has to be the camera angle. No way there's only damage like this to the bus.

alex.w *//
06-22-2011, 10:54 AM
rip

wasabisashimi
06-22-2011, 11:35 AM
CTV news mentioned it was a family from Alberta in the car. Who drives like a maniac in rush hour like that, especially with family in the car

does alberta have no speed limit? Maybe they are used to long straight roads
shared tractor trailers and donkeys

LP700-4
06-22-2011, 02:15 PM
In a Corolla too... Those things are so flimsy and weak that when i kicked a door close lightly there was a dent.

CanadaGoose
06-22-2011, 02:36 PM
Driving like a retard, in a family Corolla, in the middle of rush hour...and couldn't pay attention to something the size of a bus....

Fucking idiot driver.

Mr.Money
06-22-2011, 02:48 PM
playing need for speed in a Corolla during rush hour,Too bad there's no reset in real life,buddy.

- kT
06-22-2011, 07:06 PM
That doesn't make the other people innocent.

nope but it sure makes them helpless

tegz
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
CTV news mentioned it was a family from Alberta in the car. Who drives like a maniac in rush hour like that, especially with family in the car

Darwin prevails

tegz
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
The trolley buses are freaking heavy. Check Translink's fleet data:
http://www.translink.ca/~/media/documents/bpotp/projects/expansion_upgrades/fleet%20pictorial.ashx

The regular ones are 14200kg TARE and 19200kg GVWR. The articulated ones are even heavier at 19800kg TARE and 29000kg GVWR. When you hit something that heavy, good luck.

Those things have 2000+ ft lbs of torque!!!!!!!

seakrait
06-22-2011, 09:10 PM
weird thing is, it was a Hutterite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite) family from Alberta that was in the accident. they're kinda like the Amish. and the mother was driving. not the son. very strange. rush hour. swerving. i'm wondering if there's a possibility that any of Toyota's recalls have anything to do with the crash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_Toyota_vehicle_recalls

TRDood
06-22-2011, 10:09 PM
weird thing is, it was a Hutterite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite) family from Alberta that was in the accident. they're kinda like the Amish. and the mother was driving. not the son. very strange. rush hour. swerving. i'm wondering if there's a possibility that any of Toyota's recalls have anything to do with the crash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_Toyota_vehicle_recalls

a C-lai was driving 100+ on city streets?

imagine the Corolla bounced onto the middle lane instead of the curb, or if someone is waiting to cross... :failed:

LW
06-22-2011, 10:19 PM
I wonder if they'll ever figure out the reason for such reckless operation of the vehicle. Maybe there was a mechanical malfunction...can't really explain it otherwise.

Nlkko
06-22-2011, 10:26 PM
Mechanical malfunction... Lol. You mean the car suddenly accelerate and the brake suddenly stop working? That's comical. For such a slow ass car to build up that much speed is no mechanical failure my friend. It's brain failure.

FerrariEnzo
06-23-2011, 01:12 AM
I wonder if they'll ever figure out the reason for such reckless operation of the vehicle. Maybe there was a mechanical malfunction...can't really explain it otherwise.
it must of been the ghosts....

604nguyen
06-23-2011, 10:52 AM
natural selection at its finest

dark0821
06-23-2011, 11:06 AM
RIP

but honestly.. ya.for a mom to drive that fast.....

Dragon-88
06-23-2011, 11:45 AM
What year corolla was that?

Qmx323
06-23-2011, 11:47 AM
looks like the ones they use for driving exams, 2002 to 2007ish?

Cman333
06-23-2011, 03:47 PM
100km/h seems too slow for that kind of damage...

that's horrific i hope the passenger in critical survives

Remember the Corolla hit a bus.....the energy of the corolla moving doesn't doesn't effect the bus much. Like running into a thick concrete wall.

adambomb
06-23-2011, 09:49 PM
Seems to me some country folk were driving in the big city for the first time and got fustrated with rush hour traffic. Doubt there is much rush hour in Alberta. They've probably never experienced anything like Granville street at 6pm.

:joy

Marco911
06-24-2011, 01:20 AM
I would estimate impact speed at about 60 km/h.
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Marco911
06-24-2011, 01:22 AM
I would also conjecture that at least one of the passengers was not wearing a seat belt.
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tegz
06-24-2011, 01:27 AM
I would estimate impact speed at about 60 km/h.
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That's actually really reasonable although some would argue they were going faster.

Most people say "i crashed at 60" when what they mean is they were going 60 and a guy turned left infront of them, and they did an emergency brake to 20~30km/h and got in a collision.

In this case, they were prolly going 80~100 and slowed down to 50~60 km/h which could easily result in that wreck, especially since hitting a bus is pretty much equivalent to hitting a concrete wall, and even possibly worse if the front end hit the rear corner of a bus.

too_slow
06-24-2011, 11:54 AM
I think they would have a higher chance of surviving if they smacked the bus dead on, as opposed to a 'frontal offset crash'.. I highly doubt the bus really has much of a 'crumple' zone on the corners.. RIP

There's also a lot of keyboard warriors in this thread..