[versep]

China's Jiaozhou Bay Bridge

"This photo taken Wednesday, June 29, 2011 released by China's Xinhua news agency shows the Jiaozhou Bay Bridge in Qingdao, east China's Shandong Province. China opened Thursday, June 30, 2011, the world's longest cross-sea bridge, which is 42 kilometers (26 miles) long and links China's eastern port city of Qingdao to an offshore island, Huangdao."

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source: http://news.yahoo.com/photos/china-s-jiaozhou-bay-bridge-1309439624-slideshow/photo-taken-wednesday-june-29-2011-released-chinas-photo-124546927.html

inb4madeinchina

[civic_rice]

thats what we need to go from the island to the mainland.....heck id pay a $20 toll to use it

[!oHenry]

The asphalt looks so smooth
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/tiffany_sherburne/228535_me_gusta.jpg

[mmmk]

That's crazy...I wonder how long it took them to build that bridge?

[ruthless]

Reminds me of SSR7 in gt5...top speed run anyone?

[murd0c]

Being the first to drive on that bridge would be beyond awesome

[murd0c]

That's crazy...I wonder how long it took them to build that bridge?

It's China they started last week :troll:

[shenmecar]

its been open for a day and already theres been an accident.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/xTeddieZx/d3c481b0.jpg

[LP700-4]

They should make it the Asian Autobahn

[smaggs]

its been open for a day and already theres been an accident.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/xTeddieZx/d3c481b0.jpg

exactly what i was thinking LOL :failed:

[Phil@rise]

Its made in china.
Its probably not even real just another knock off :D

[taylor192]

Its made in china.
Its probably not even real just another knock off :D

LOL there was an article about the San Francisco-Oakland bay bridge being made in China and the pieces shipped to the US. Its crazy, China will soon be the manufacturer of everything!

[taylor192]

thats what we need to go from the island to the mainland.....heck id pay a $20 toll to use it

Except it would cost $150B CND not $1.5B. :(

[Greenstoner]

4 yrs to build this, not too shabby

[TOPEC]

all the exotics in china meet for a top speed run?

[quasi]

Except it would cost $150B CND not $1.5B. :(

Wow, the article says it was only 2.3 billion US and it's 42kms long. The Port Man expansion including a bridge about 7000 feet long and widening 23Km of road is 3.3 billion Canadian.

We joke about everything is cheaper in China but holy shit, you're right the same bridge here would probably cost 100x as much.

[jmvdesign]

Just came back from a Shanghai trip last month and we managed to take the Hangzhou Bay Bridge on our way to Ningbo which was the longest bridge in the world, but now second compared to this new one. Drivers can't max out on those strips as there are cameras everywhere (our driver said). It took us 30 mins to cross over and it's even sketchier driving on it while there's a thunderstorm. Pretty cool experience nonetheless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangzhou_Bay_Bridge

[Ruff Ryd@s]

4 yrs to build this, not too shabby
not too shabby when you consider Nanaimo street is getting close to 1 year worth of construction and they've only re-paved about 2 blocks worth of roads and fucked up about 3 blocks worth

[mercyboy]

anybody thinking of racing like wanagan midnight....42 km with smooth road is a dream for me.....

[dachinesedude]

imagine a major accident involving both lanes and being stuck right in the middle of the bridge

[Great68]

Wow, the article says it was only 2.3 billion US and it's 42kms long. The Port Man expansion including a bridge about 7000 feet long and widening 23Km of road is 3.3 billion Canadian.

We joke about everything is cheaper in China but holy shit, you're right the same bridge here would probably cost 100x as much.

I don't know what the average construction worker wage is in China, but I'm willing to guess that it's nowhere close to what we pay our workers here. Not to mention they probably don't have to go through 1/4 of the safety/WCB stuff that we do here.

[monkeywrench]

Did someone say wangan?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll217/GetMePower/Cars/Wangan.jpg

AWWW YEAAAAA

[tiger_handheld]

Wow, the article says it was only 2.3 billion US and it's 42kms long. The Port Man expansion including a bridge about 7000 feet long and widening 23Km of road is 3.3 billion Canadian.

We joke about everything is cheaper in China but holy shit, you're right the same bridge here would probably cost 100x as much.

$35/hr vs. $3.5/hr

[krazynuck]

thats a pretty epic bridge

42.5KM long would be about $6 in gas just to cross it haha

[jmvdesign]

Everything in metropolitan cities in China is larger than life. Buildings in Shanghai easily trumps LA (never been to NYC though). I'd say with Shanghai is probably 5X the size of LA with a population of 25 million.

Look at the new second tallest building in world right in Shanghai, Shanghai Tower:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gumEstDHdWE/TJjJ6GRGxNI/AAAAAAAAAng/EipUMh8SnRE/s1600/shanghai_tower_pirages281108_2.jpg

http://ryankamstra.blogspot.com/2010/09/american-architect-marshall-strabala.html

[R-U-Retarded?]

one proper accident and GG. cant even re-route LOL

[quasi]

I don't know what the average construction worker wage is in China, but I'm willing to guess that it's nowhere close to what we pay our workers here. Not to mention they probably don't have to go through 1/4 of the safety/WCB stuff that we do here.

No doubt, it's just amazing how much cheaper it is to build somewhere else in the world.

[rexsomnii]

thats really nice. if we had that then there no more use for the ferry's, and my guess is that ferrys are more money to maintain.

[1exotic]

Smokey Nagata should do a top speed run on that bridge.

[Stealthy]

Freshly paved roads

http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Pleasure/sweetjesusface.png

[bloodline129]

Just fkn beautiful, wouldn't
Like to get stuck on it tho
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[StylinRed]

thats what we need to go from the island to the mainland.....heck id pay a $20 toll to use it

yeah i always wondered why we dont make one at the shortest points, maybe cut through one of the smaller islands.... but most of that area is provincial parks (after all even the USA made long ass bridges in the 60s)

we have one on the east coast :/ (confederation bridge built in the 90s for 1bn+)

[tgill]

yeah i always wondered why we dont make one at the shortest points, maybe cut through one of the smaller islands.... but most of that area is provincial parks
The depth of the water between the Island and Vancouver is so much greater than most of these huge ass bridges around the world.

Not to mention construction costs of a project that big would be immense here in the western world.

Studies have been done on the feasibility.


2001
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/Publications/reports_and_studies/fixed_link/Graphic_H.jpg
There are no fixed bridges in existence today that would meet the conditions present in Georgia Strait. Prince Edward Island’s $1-billion Confederation Bridge is only 12.9 kilometres long and is set in water 35 metres deep with a rock bottom. In comparison, a fixed bridge across British Columbia’s Georgia Strait would be 26 kilometres in length and in water up to 365 metres deep. The Tagus River Bridge in Lisbon has the deepest conventional bridge foundation in existence in water depths of only 79 metres. That is far shallower than what would be required for a floating bridge between Vancouver Island and British Columbia’s mainland. Greece’s Rion Antirion Bridge, which was completed in 2004, faced challenges quite similar to those in Georgia Strait. It too is in a high seismic zone and must contend with an ocean bottom consisting of deep, soft sediments. However, this structure is only 2.8 kilometres long and sits in waters of only 65 metres. It cost an estimated $1213 million to complete and each of four main pier structures cost $146 million.
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/publications/reports_and_studies/fixed_link/fixed_link.htm

[StylinRed]

The depth of the water between the Island and Vancouver is so much greater than most of these huge ass bridges around the world.

Not to mention construction costs of a project that big would be immense here in the western world.

not if they built it up by duncan bay(campbell river) :D

and i edited my post but wouldnt it be similar to the confederation bridge connecting new brunswick/pei ?

edit: ah thx :)





edit2: ROFL wtf CBC is talking about a bridge to the island now too

the bridge they're proposing on tv now though is building a bridge right across the middle.... :crazy2: they expect it to cost $8-12bn and a toll of $260 would be needed lol

[!LittleDragon]

The asphalt looks so smooth


I was there last year and I was shocked at how smooth and clean the roads are in the major cities.

[LiquidTurbo]

Sigh.. seeing those pics... just always makes think of :



http://www.myicore.com/post_pics/LOL/engineering-reality.jpg

[jackmeister]

Dont think bridge to Vancouver Island is gonna happen because BC Ferries would cease to exist. I believe they use the main Island-Mainland routes to subsidize all the smaller routes?

[LiquidTurbo]

^ I don't think its suitable to bridge the two. Keeps BC more 'nature' like if its just a ferry. Besides, i like the ferry!

[elwell]

^ I don't think its suitable to bridge the two. Keeps BC more 'nature' like if its just a ferry. Besides, i like the ferry!

thumbs down for those arcade games tho that are usually always broken :okay:

[Manic!]

^ I don't think its suitable to bridge the two. Keeps BC more 'nature' like if its just a ferry. Besides, i like the ferry!


Ya but you live on the mainland.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ As do the majority of folk?

I mean, if the 'mainland' folks regularly need to commute to Victoria or something sure, but in the end, living in the island is the minority. However my opinion may be the only minority. :D

[vitaminG]

The depth of the water between the Island and Vancouver is so much greater than most of these huge ass bridges around the world.

Not to mention construction costs of a project that big would be immense here in the western world.

Studies have been done on the feasibility.


http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/publications/reports_and_studies/fixed_link/fixed_link.htm

From the govt website, toll 180 - 260 (one way) on a $8-12 billion bridge, and knowing the govt it will cost WAY more. People would be begging to get the ferry back if you had to pay that much

[XplicitLuder]

From the govt website, toll 180 - 260 (one way) on a $8-12 billion bridge, and knowing the govt it will cost WAY more. People would be begging to get the ferry back if you had to pay that much

considering ppl already complain for the prices now..15$ per passenger i think and like 40$ if ur takin a car ? so..55$ or so and ppl are like HOLYSHITEXPENSIVE! (at least i do lmao) imagine if we had to pay 180-260...fuck that shit

[$_$]

not too shabby when you consider Nanaimo street is getting close to 1 year worth of construction and they've only re-paved about 2 blocks worth of roads and fucked up about 3 blocks worth

Watching Vancouver/Richmond do construction on our roads is the most frustrating and facepalming experience. Richmond is constantly repaving roads that they recently repave or do not need to repave, then the roads that DO need to repave never get paved. There are always women construction workers holding "slow down" signs, when that could be just as easily be replaced with a dummy worker AND be safer. They also love to do things during rush hour. I watched city workers plant flowers on half a block of Garden City for TWO DAYS with the turning lane completely coned off. :failed::facepalm:

[325isMSPORT]

unless they make it no speed limit haha..

[RFlush]

Watching Vancouver/Richmond do construction on our roads is the most frustrating and facepalming experience. Richmond is constantly repaving roads that they recently repave or do not need to repave, then the roads that DO need to repave never get paved. There are always women construction workers holding "slow down" signs, when that could be just as easily be replaced with a dummy worker AND be safer. They also love to do things during rush hour. I watched city workers plant flowers on half a block of Garden City for TWO DAYS with the turning lane completely coned off. :failed::facepalm:

Spend money to destroy the busiest street in Richmond, No3 Road, to build B Line bus lanes. Years later, DESTROY AGAIN!

[Amuse]

So is there a toll to use this bridge or is it free to cross?

[LP700-4]

^I bet you there is, nothing is free in China. You have to pay to get through SECTIONS of the highway.

[asahai69]

one accident and that bridge will be more fucked than number 3 road at rush hour with slight rain

[Razor Ramon HG]

its been open for a day and already theres been an accident.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/xTeddieZx/d3c481b0.jpg

They're buckets of paint.

Larger image below.

http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2011/06/30/China%20Bridge%20Reuters.JPG

[Qmx323]

HAHA. No3 Road and Hazelbridge.

Imagine that, but for 40+ km and no where to turn back

[DOHCVTEC]

They're buckets of paint.

Larger image below.

http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2011/06/30/China%20Bridge%20Reuters.JPG

Yup those are construction materials, probably before the official opening. In the background you can see the workers and their work trucks.

[Bonjour43MA]

I can see these types of news headlines coming:

"Chinese Triad use bridge to discard bodies"
"Man missing, believed to have set foot onto bridge"
"Accident on bridge trapped commuters for 3 days, many without food or water"


Other than that... I'd LOVE to take a fast car and do a couple round trips over that bridge :)

[AzNightmare]

I can see these types of news headlines coming:

"Chinese Triad use bridge to discard bodies"
"Man missing, believed to have set foot onto bridge"
"Accident on bridge trapped commuters for 3 days, many without food or water"


Other than that... I'd LOVE to take a fast car and do a couple round trips over that bridge :)

:lol

[shawn79]

i bet it will collapse within a few years

[xilley]

some reason i read "worlds longest dick"
must be tired just woke up

[RFlush]

some reason i read "worlds longest dick"
must be tired just woke up

Well, we know what you were dreaming about.

[Great68]

^ I don't think its suitable to bridge the two. Keeps BC more 'nature' like if its just a ferry. Besides, i like the ferry!

Having moved to Victoria from the Mainland, I hope a bridge NEVER gets built. The last thing I want is for the island to become some suburb of Vancouver.

[Great68]

not if they built it up by duncan bay(campbell river) :D



A bridge in the Northern island would hardly be useful.

1.5 Hour ferry ride vs 8 hour drive...

[versep]

i bet it will collapse within a few years

I guess the Oakland Bay Bridge in San Francisco will collapse within a few years too?

China will send the final four segments of the new Oakland Bay Bridge 6,500 miles to California next month as the 2,050 foot project enters its final phase.
China, a savvy, confident bidder of construction and engineering projects throughout the world is now bringing that experience to bear in the U.S.
According to the Guardian,
...five of the world's top 10 contractors, in terms of revenue, are now Chinese, with likes of China State Construction Engineering Group (CSCEC) overtaking established American giants like Bechtel.
CSCEC has already built seven schools in the US, apartment blocks in Washington DC and New York and is in the middle of building a 4,000-room casino in Atlantic City. In New York, it has won contracts to renovate the subway system, build a new metro platform near Yankee stadium, and refurbish the Alexander Hamilton Bridge over the Harlem river.
Chinese engineering companies have several things going for them:
Financing, companies are mostly state owned and have much easier access to the large sums required in contracting
They transfer Chinese workers who work much more cheaply
They use construction machinery built in China
Because of the large profit margin, they hire globally renown architects to demonstrate they can deliver better designs than anyone else
The main barrier to full Western expansion is seen as cultural, but likely something the Chinese will master with time and experience while doing business in the U.S.
Update: An article was forwarded from Foreign Policy after this post went up this morning and mentions some salient points.

California saved $400 million dollars by going with the Chinese workers who make $12 a day toiling from 7 a.m. till 11 p.m., seven days a week, and sleep in a company dorm room.

So the $400 million estimated saving is largely a result of cheap Chinese labor. But is that a pure saving? If California and/or the United States have no unemployed workers who could make steel or polish it or do fabrications, then it is a pure saving. But last time I looked both California and the United States have close to 10 percent reported unemployment and closer to 15 percent if we count part time workers who want full time work and those who have become discouraged from even looking for work. Now those unemployed workers get some unemployment compensation and their health care has to be paid for by public means if they can't pay it themselves, and the banks have to repossess their homes when they can't make the mortgage payments, and then states and the Feds have to bail out the banks. I can count way over $400 million in unemployment costs pretty quickly and that's without even considering the downward pressure on all wages in the United States that arises from the import of these low wage products in the midst of high unemployment. I mean, I guess we could have had a cheaper Golden Gate Bridge in 1937 if we had just brought over a bunch of Chinese workers to do the job. But that would have defeated the purpose of building the bridge which was a major project in the effort to cut U.S. unemployment in the midst of the Depression.

source: http://www.businessinsider.com/china-construction-san-francisco-oakland-bridge-built-in-china-will-span-san-francisco-bay-2011-6

The fact is, these "for face" super projects rarely fail. If they did, they would lose "face", and that is the whole point.

[CharlieH]

That's crazy...I wonder how long it took them to build that bridge?


probably half the time it's taking bc to build the port mann's replacement

[SpicyToFu]

Seeing how its china, the 3 lanes will have 5 cars across and any gap filled with bikes and mopeds

last time I went to shang-hai(sp?), no one followed the lines on the road

must be smooth to have a top-speed run without any cars

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

What's china's version of "america, fuck yeah?"
"Zhong guo, gan yeh!" ? LOL
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[suboy]

only in china.

[twitchyzero]

Never mind its physical feasibility, did people really think there's a demand to bridge the Georgia Strait?

[Drow]

GREAT BRIDGE OF CHINA

[Nlkko]

Those show-off construction projects aint gonna fall over like your lame jokes. It's cheap or quickly finished because the labor is cheap and abundant. I like it. Chinese Autobahn? :)

If something like that is going to be built here. It would have one single lane with 2 big ass bike lanes on each side for good measure.

[twitchyzero]

can't tell if it's smog or foghttp://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/OLKMmK0DUVbpUBsdVOqEXQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MjA7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/e51fd62d93389c0ef10e6a706700fb3f.jpg

[asian_XL]

YouTube - ‪

[white_guilt]

Still not as long as the Port Mann bridge, which connects Canada to India.