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: Pulled over to the side to answer phone then got a parking ticket!?


J____
07-15-2011, 10:33 AM
So i'm driving along in richmond on saba and my phone rings. I pulled over to the side to answer it and it just so happens that a parking attendant was there. He comes around with this smirk and said "you going to get a ticket? it's pay parking zone" I told him i'm leaving in like a minute as soon as I finish my call. He said "oh you're leaving? See ya" and walks away. He stood behind my car facing the other direction and less than 2 minutes later he comes back with a parking ticket. Raises his voice and says "you park and don't pay, you get ticket" with an attitude. Wtf I'm not parking my car I pulled over to answer a phone call and even explained I'll be gone when the conversation is over and it's safe to drive again. What a jack ass. Called city call and they pretty much said i'll end up paying because i'm parked there, even though i'm inside the car with it in neutral. This is ridiculous, police have way better attitude than that parking attendant asshole.

SB7
07-15-2011, 10:36 AM
What a douche bag I hope he gets run over by a dump truck
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Jermyzy
07-15-2011, 10:46 AM
You should've said you were looking for change to put into the meter when he gave you the ticket, then put like 5 cents into the meter! :fullofwin:

Nvasion
07-15-2011, 10:50 AM
douche

melloman
07-15-2011, 10:56 AM
Any way to fight it and say you were "Stopped" and not "Parked"

I don't know the law 100%, but there is a clear difference between being stopped and parked. If you were indeed in the car, with it running. I would figure it would be considered as being "Stopped." Maybe something to look into if you want to fight it?

I would fight it under principle, I wouldn't care about the money because this is just dumb bullshit.

Bahhbeehhaaaa
07-15-2011, 10:58 AM
Any way to fight it and say you were "Stopped" and not "Parked"

I don't know the law 100%, but there is a clear difference between being stopped and parked. If you were indeed in the car, with it running. I would figure it would be considered as being "Stopped." Maybe something to look into if you want to fight it?

I would fight it under principle, I wouldn't care about the money because this is just dumb bullshit.

i agree, there is a difference between stop and park.

Bahhbeehhaaaa
07-15-2011, 10:59 AM
OP, is it Diamond Parking or something else?

Dragon-88
07-15-2011, 11:58 AM
He was on the street, so it should it would be city.

nack
07-15-2011, 12:04 PM
what a fagnut

MR_BIGGS
07-15-2011, 12:14 PM
He was on the street, so it should it would be city.

7026

shenmecar
07-15-2011, 12:20 PM
So i'm driving along in richmond on saba and my phone rings. I pulled over to the side to answer it and it just so happens that a parking attendant was there. He comes around with this smirk and said "you going to get a ticket? it's pay parking zone" I told him i'm leaving in like a minute as soon as I finish my call. He said "oh you're leaving? See ya" and walks away. He stood behind my car facing the other direction and less than 2 minutes later he comes back with a parking ticket. Raises his voice and says "you park and don't pay, you get ticket" with an attitude. Wtf I'm not parking my car I pulled over to answer a phone call and even explained I'll be gone when the conversation is over and it's safe to drive again. What a jack ass. Called city call and they pretty much said i'll end up paying because i'm parked there, even though i'm inside the car with it in neutral. This is ridiculous, police have way better attitude than that parking attendant asshole.

Right there should be enough to dispute it. Clearly you did not park, you only stopped. Hell you could've said you had a leg muscle spasm and was calling your doctor for help and wanted to pull over so its safe for other drivers. I don't see why you should pay the ticket.

littledog
07-15-2011, 12:25 PM
I don't see what's the problem here.

He came and asked/warned you already and you didn't leave right away. Who knows how long your phone call is going to be. You can have a 2-hour phone call in the car so him giving you a ticket is justified in this occasion (as per the city bylaw).

You obviously "stopped" for more than 3 minutes without any intention to leave (yet) so I would considered it "parked" already.

(Of course he's a douche but live and learn?)

EDIT:From City of Vancouver bylaw (not Richmond but I assume they should be similar)


"Stopping" - is the coming to rest or the state of being at rest of a vehicle. It is the stopping or standing of a vehicle whether occupied or not.

"Parking" - is the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, other than up to 5 minutes for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading of merchandise or discharging or taking on passengers.

FatalCloud
07-15-2011, 12:59 PM
was this an important call or emergency? if not, i wouldn't have answered the phone at all or just say you'll call him/her back.

Qmx323
07-15-2011, 01:05 PM
http://pigroll.com/img/that_really_rustled_my_jimmies.jpg

What a douchebag

Gumby
07-15-2011, 01:06 PM
Wow this guy is a total prick.

racerman88
07-15-2011, 02:15 PM
Quote from a judge for someone fighting one of these tickets:
If you pull over to answer your cell phone, you must do so in a safe and LEGAL manner. Stopping in a bus zone or no stopping anytime is illegal, even if you are answering your cell. That's why we have caller id and voice mail. Pull over legally, then call the person back.

A lot of ppl have this misconception that if they are in the car, they are not parked. That is not true.

In this case, the officer did give you a verbal warning first.
Personally, if the officer gave me a verbal warning, I would have told the caller, I will call back and move my car. That verbal warning was the chance to move the car.

flagella
07-15-2011, 02:53 PM
Regardless of how you argue or whether the ticket is justified or not, the parking attendant is a fcking douche.

iNS0MNiAC
07-15-2011, 03:11 PM
Just dispute it because its all based on what you're charged with. If you are Stopped/Standing and you are being charged for parking you can fight it. Either way just dispute the ticket. Worst case scenario you lose. But you got nothing to lose trying to fight it.

freakshow
07-15-2011, 03:17 PM
Just dispute it because its all based on what you're charged with. If you are Stopped/Standing and you are being charged for parking you can fight it. Either way just dispute the ticket. Worst case scenario you lose. But you got nothing to lose trying to fight it.

There's probably a discount for paying within the first 30 days

Cman333
07-15-2011, 04:18 PM
Ooohh was it an old white haired caucasian dude? I was "stopped" in an empty permit parking like 11pm on the phone on a small side street once and he came up to me. The whole street was empty. I was just making a call too and he came up to me and gave me attitude and said to move. I called him a not so polite name and drove off.

J____
07-15-2011, 04:45 PM
Ooohh was it an old white haired caucasian dude? I was "stopped" in an empty permit parking like 11pm on the phone on a small side street once and he came up to me. The whole street was empty. I was just making a call too and he came up to me and gave me attitude and said to move. I called him a not so polite name and drove off.

I can't remember if he had white hair but he was an older caucasian gentleman in his 50s. Yes he was rude as fuck.

I'd understand if it was a 'warning' like if he said initially 'ok you have 60secs to finish and leave or i'll ticket you', I would of left. Instead he said 'ok see ya' when I said i'll leave after I finish calling. Max time from the moment I pulled over to the moment I received a ticket was maybe 5 mins. I had both my windows down but car off because I don't like idling. I wasn't taking up precious spots either cuz no one was parked on that street.

I went to city hall right after and they pretty much said I deserved the ticket because technically I was parked. I can choose to dispute it but if I loose i'll have to pay an extra $25 on top of the max fine for admin fees lol. Either way i'm going to dispute this, I don't care about the $75 but think this is wrong. According to them, it's better to talk on the phone while driving and risk an accident than pull over in a pay parking zone for 5 min to talk.

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freakshow
07-15-2011, 04:56 PM
I can't remember if he had white hair but he was an older caucasian gentleman in his 50s. Yes he was rude as fuck.

I'd understand if it was a 'warning' like if he said initially 'ok you have 60secs to finish and leave or i'll ticket you', I would of left. Instead he said 'ok see ya' when I said i'll leave after I finish calling. Max time from the moment I pulled over to the moment I received a ticket was maybe 5 mins. I had both my windows down but car off because I don't like idling. I wasn't taking up precious spots either cuz no one was parked on that street.

I went to city hall right after and they pretty much said I deserved the ticket because technically I was parked. I can choose to dispute it but if I loose i'll have to pay an extra $25 on top of the max fine for admin fees lol. Either way i'm going to dispute this, I don't care about the $75 but think this is wrong. According to them, it's better to talk on the phone while driving and risk an accident than pull over in a pay parking zone for 5 min to talk.

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J____
07-15-2011, 04:57 PM
Quote from a judge for someone fighting one of these tickets:
If you pull over to answer your cell phone, you must do so in a safe and LEGAL manner. Stopping in a bus zone or no stopping anytime is illegal, even if you are answering your cell. That's why we have caller id and voice mail. Pull over legally, then call the person back.

A lot of ppl have this misconception that if they are in the car, they are not parked. That is not true.

In this case, the officer did give you a verbal warning first.
Personally, if the officer gave me a verbal warning, I would have told the caller, I will call back and move my car. That verbal warning was the chance to move the car.


I was not in a dangerous illegal zone. 1 spot ahead is a no stopping zone.
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J____
07-15-2011, 04:57 PM
Did they give you a definition of stopped vs parked?

Nope. I'll ask for that in court
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asian_XL
07-15-2011, 05:23 PM
I got a ticket from the city when I pulled over to the side and waited to make an U turn.
I stopped there for like less than 30 seconds.

J____
07-15-2011, 05:53 PM
I got a ticket from the city when I pulled over to the side and waited to make an U turn.
I stopped there for like less than 30 seconds.

for not paying to park? was it in richmond? This is ridiculous. Stupid cash grab.

Nlkko
07-15-2011, 06:24 PM
That's why nowadays turds just stop in the freaking middle of the street and put hazard light on instead of pulling over, especially cabs. Good luck fighting it! Make me wonder if people like that get brownie point every time they fuck somebody over.

CorneringArtist
07-15-2011, 06:48 PM
Even if he warned you, the parking attendant is a douche for handing you a ticket for obeying a MVA law.

Is it a trend that asshole police officers and parking nazis are USUALLY in Richmond? I don't have much reason to drive out there, so I'm fairly uneducated about the subject.

Hehe
07-15-2011, 07:02 PM
Isn't there a certain period before an officer can issue a parking ticket? I would find that out if I were you.

The thing is that the officer has to prove that he stood there long enough for the grace period to pass before issuing a ticket.

J____
07-15-2011, 07:17 PM
I think the grace period is 3 mins according to the flashing 0's on coin meter
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J____
07-15-2011, 07:20 PM
Even if he warned you, the parking attendant is a douche for handing you a ticket for obeying a MVA law.

Is it a trend that asshole police officers and parking nazis are USUALLY in Richmond? I don't have much reason to drive out there, so I'm fairly uneducated about the subject.

I'm confident this is partially sure to the amount of immigrants in richmond. Most don't speak english well enough or know the local rules to argue, so it's a easy target. Chances are they won't pursue it in court either.
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littledog
07-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Nope. I'll ask for that in court
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According to the Richmond bylaw. You clearly violated the bylaw and thus deserve the ticket. You "parked" your car with the engine off in a pay parking zone without paying, therefore you got a ticket for it.

The judge will probably tell you the same thing if you ask for the definition since it's written out on the Richmond city website. He/she may sympathize with you and give you a lesser fine.

Saying how you were doing the "safe" thing by pulling over to answer the phone. Yes you were being safe but that doesn't mean you didn't violate any other rules. In this case, being safe got you a parking ticket. Next time either don't answer the call or pull over at a place where you can safely and legally park.

City of Richmond BC - Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.richmond.ca/__shared/printpages/page2972.htm)
Q. What is the difference between "no stopping" and "no parking"?
A. No stopping means motorists cannot stop in that zone, whether the vehicle is occupied or not. This means the wheels on the vehicle cannot stop while in this zone, unless to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle.

No parking means motorists are allowed to park the vehicle in a zone indicated as No Parking for up to 5 minutes, for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading of property, goods, or the discharging or taking on of passengers.

J____
07-15-2011, 07:54 PM
According to the Richmond bylaw. You clearly violated the bylaw and thus deserve the ticket. You "parked" your car with the engine off in a pay parking zone without paying, therefore you got a ticket for it.

The judge will probably tell you the same thing if you ask for the definition since it's written out on the Richmond city website. He/she may sympathize with you and give you a lesser fine.

Saying how you were doing the "safe" thing by pulling over to answer the phone. Yes you were being safe but that doesn't mean you didn't violate any other rules. In this case, being safe got you a parking ticket. Next time either don't answer the call or pull over at a place where you can safely and legally park.

City of Richmond BC - Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.richmond.ca/__shared/printpages/page2972.htm)

According to that, i'm 'stopped' and not 'parked' because i'm not discharging or taking on/ loading unloading ppl.
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littledog
07-15-2011, 08:20 PM
According to that, i'm 'stopped' and not 'parked' because i'm not discharging or taking on/ loading unloading ppl.
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My interpretation to that "no parking" sentence:
If you are engaged in loading or unloading of property, goods, or the discharging or taking on of passengers; then you are allowed to park for up to 5 minutes. Since you weren't doing any of the above, you were not allowed to park at all. That's why you got a ticket.

Of course, my interpretation means nothing. Only the judge's interpretation matters.

Eff-1
07-15-2011, 08:21 PM
why don't you look at your ticket and tell us which bylaw you were written up for?

jstn86
07-15-2011, 09:06 PM
so the richmond bylaw is saying as long as your wheels aren't fully stopped... you are not stopped nor parked...

next time, pull over, answer your phone call, and slowly creep forward... and slowly back up. do this back and fourth and you are not breaking any law...


richmond is fucking stupid

J____
07-15-2011, 09:10 PM
why don't you look at your ticket and tell us which bylaw you were written up for?

Bylaw 5870: park without valid proof of payment
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J____
07-15-2011, 09:12 PM
so the richmond bylaw is saying as long as your wheels aren't fully stopped... you are not stopped nor parked...

next time, pull over, answer your phone call, and slowly creep forward... and slowly back up. do this back and fourth and you are not breaking any law...


richmond is fucking stupid

Then technically i'd be breaking the MVA act by talking in the phone while operating a vehicle.
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J____
07-15-2011, 09:14 PM
so the richmond bylaw is saying as long as your wheels aren't fully stopped... you are not stopped nor parked...

next time, pull over, answer your phone call, and slowly creep forward... and slowly back up. do this back and fourth and you are not breaking any law...


richmond is fucking stupid

Then technically i'd be breaking the MVA act by talking in the phone while operating a vehicle.
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asian_XL
07-15-2011, 09:15 PM
for not paying to park? was it in richmond? This is ridiculous. Stupid cash grab.

yes in richmond, illegal parking at the fire hydrant.

no one issued a ticket to me at all, they just mailed me a ticket. It was a white truck with city logo followed me from behind.

1exotic
07-15-2011, 09:19 PM
dispute, you'll win the case in like 30 seconds.

falcon
07-15-2011, 09:49 PM
Any way to fight it and say you were "Stopped" and not "Parked"

I don't know the law 100%, but there is a clear difference between being stopped and parked. If you were indeed in the car, with it running. I would figure it would be considered as being "Stopped." Maybe something to look into if you want to fight it?

I would fight it under principle, I wouldn't care about the money because this is just dumb bullshit.

The correct term is "no standing" IE: no sitting in the car with it running. If it just says no parking, you weren't parked. Fight it.

Mananetwork
07-15-2011, 11:29 PM
I once got a ticket while I quickly pulled over to pick up my gf. YES QUICKLY, pulled in, she walked up and got in. This attendant was on my ass with his siren as I was pulling out.

Month later, the ticket comes in the mail!! Can you believe this scumbag!! He had enough time to take down my number as I drove away.

Bear2
07-15-2011, 11:58 PM
don't bother disputing coz u will lose based on what u've described

richmond uses the bylaw adjudication system which uses adjudicators and not judges at the hearings. the adjudicator can only decide if the offence occurred or not and they won't take into consideration extenuating circumstances. in this case u've already admitted u were there. being on the phone is an extenuating circumstance the adjudicator won't even consider.

and don't think u may get lucky if the officer doesn't show up coz the new system doesn't require the officer to be present. he only needs to submit a written statement.

save yourself some money and time to dispute and pay it before the fine increases.

Illusive1
07-16-2011, 03:43 AM
You were given a verbal warning, and you chose to carry on your conversation. He gave you the ticket cause you basically told him "fuck you beat it". Not in those words but thats maybe how he took it.

twitchyzero
07-16-2011, 10:29 AM
You were given a verbal warning, and you chose to carry on your conversation. He gave you the ticket cause you basically told him "fuck you beat it". Not in those words but thats maybe how he took it.

if OP is describing it accurately, I don't see how it's a verbal warning if he ended it with "oh you going? see ya" unless it was obviously sarcastic.

MWR34
07-16-2011, 10:29 AM
I can't remember if he had white hair but he was an older caucasian gentleman in his 50s. Yes he was rude as fuck.
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I can't remember if he had white hair but he was an older white prick.

dont sugar coat it.

Nlkko
07-16-2011, 12:34 PM
What is it like 30 bucks? I'd just pay it instead of wasting my time going to court. What a sore loser attendant though! You should have made a "lol why u mad tho" face when he gave you a ticket.

FerrariEnzo
07-16-2011, 01:50 PM
i'm inside the car with it in neutral.
5spd cars dont have "Park"... so does this mean the No Parking law doesnt apply to standard transmission.. haha no it does not..


You told the guy your leaving in-said timeframe but you clearly did not...
you should have took off when you saw that smirk when the guy told you the first time... or just get out and have change ready and pretend to put money in..

Nabatron
07-16-2011, 02:38 PM
you guys actually pay for parking tickets? lol noone pays them that I know of its a fucking money grab!

Vette Dood
07-16-2011, 03:29 PM
you guys actually pay for parking tickets? lol noone pays them that I know of its a fucking money grab!

Pretty sure the city can be much more nasty to deal with when it comes to un-paid tickets then a private company...

turbos86
07-16-2011, 03:41 PM
^ +1
City should be the only one you should be wary of.

optiblue
07-16-2011, 04:27 PM
City is poor! They'll do anything for a cash grab
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bloodmack
07-16-2011, 05:30 PM
better off answering the phone while driving. I've only been bugged about talking on the phone and driving once and the guy just wanted to make sure I knew.

M Speed
07-16-2011, 11:53 PM
City of Richmond bylaw No. 7403 page 9 stated definition of park/parked/parking

http://richmond.ca/__shared/assets/Bylaw_7403_02081025276.pdf

JesseBlue
07-17-2011, 11:33 AM
just consider this an expensive lesson...be done with it and learn from it...whether or not you think you are right, disputing this small infraction will clog up our justice system...
you can probably make small sacrifices in a month and pay it off

The_AK
07-17-2011, 11:47 AM
Pay a visit to city hall, ask to see whoever is in charge of parking services, kindly drop your pants and explain how they should kiss your ass after describing to them what you have described to us.

racerman88
07-17-2011, 07:17 PM
don't bother disputing coz u will lose based on what u've described

richmond uses the bylaw adjudication system which uses adjudicators and not judges at the hearings. the adjudicator can only decide if the offence occurred or not and they won't take into consideration extenuating circumstances. in this case u've already admitted u were there. being on the phone is an extenuating circumstance the adjudicator won't even consider.

and don't think u may get lucky if the officer doesn't show up coz the new system doesn't require the officer to be present. he only needs to submit a written statement.

save yourself some money and time to dispute and pay it before the fine increases.

Vancouver switched to the same system in February this year.

racerman88
07-17-2011, 07:20 PM
Just dispute it because its all based on what you're charged with. If you are Stopped/Standing and you are being charged for parking you can fight it. Either way just dispute the ticket. Worst case scenario you lose. But you got nothing to lose trying to fight it.

If the ticket was in Vancouver and you want to fight the ticket, the fine goes to the full amount plus $25 to book the JJP. SO instead of a $50 ticket for no stopping anytime, it goes to $100 + $25=$125.

Meowjin
07-17-2011, 08:42 PM
just consider this an expensive lesson...be done with it and learn from it...whether or not you think you are right, disputing this small infraction will clog up our justice system...
you can probably make small sacrifices in a month and pay it off

thats the stupidest thing ive ever read.

BoostedBB6
07-20-2011, 08:10 AM
JesseBlue, clogging up the legal system when you do not agree with it is not clogging up anything. That is why there is a process to dispute an issue you may have.

Ultimately, I do no see the OP winning this case. There was a verbal warning (regardless of how much of a prick the guy was). The law as it is written and defined was broken (even though its a joke of a law).
Even if the OP looses this it may bring to light the stupidity of these laws. IMO you should not have to pay to park on city streets that YOUR TAX DOLLARS ALREADY PAYED FOR!!

Bottom line, OP parked the car s defined by the current law. The current law regarding parking/stopping is a joke and they are well within there rights to fight the ticket.

Good luck to the OP and I hope that this brings bigger change than just not having to pay the ticket. As for answering the phone and driving issue....no one forces you to take a call so ultimately there is no need to pull over in the first place. Let it ring and call them back, listen to the voice mail ect.

Illusive1
07-20-2011, 09:55 AM
IMO you should not have to pay to park on city streets that YOUR TAX DOLLARS ALREADY PAYED FOR!!



DAMN RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

BlackZRoadster
07-20-2011, 10:08 AM
IMO you should not have to pay to park on city streets that YOUR TAX DOLLARS ALREADY PAYED FOR!!


Stupidest thing i've heard in a while. Do you also walk up to a policeman and tell him to do stuff just b/c you payed his salary?

BoostedBB6
07-20-2011, 10:58 AM
Stupidest thing i've heard in a while. Do you also walk up to a policeman and tell him to do stuff just b/c you payed his salary?

Your logic system is slightly flawed.

I expect a police OFFICER ( must be PC ) to do there job and enforce the law. Even though I may not agree with some of the things they are told to enforce. If they are not doing there job, dam straight I will tell them to do the job that they are employed to do. Just as I would expect to parking enforcement officer to write a ticket for parking and not paying. This is there job and I expect the job to be done. If there is a problem with it then you do something about it!

Yes, my tax (and your) dollars go to pay the wages of civil servants to do there job and serve us.

Yes, my tax (and your) dollars go to pay for the road system we all drive on. The tax dollars I pay (and you) are there to pay for the construction and general up-keep of these road systems we drive on. Why is it that I am paying a fee (read, more tax) on a road system that has been payed for by us?

To the same extent, I do not enjoy paying income tax and them paying tax on something I buy as well.....tax the tax...hmmmmm just not logical.

Maybe this breakdown of what I'm saying will make it a little more understandable for you.

BlackZRoadster
07-20-2011, 02:21 PM
Does it mean you have the right to go into a government building and use it for personal use since you payed taxes? Afterall, it is built with your tax dollars. Your tax dollars only can pay for so much, do you think you can park free everywhere in BC just because you payed taxes?


BTW that civil servant who wrote the OP the ticket is doing his job and should be commended.

BoostedBB6
07-20-2011, 02:35 PM
Does it mean you have the right to go into a government building and use it for personal use since you payed taxes? Afterall, it is built with your tax dollars. Your tax dollars only can pay for so much, do you think you can park free everywhere in BC just because you payed taxes?


BTW that civil servant who wrote the OP the ticket is doing his job and should be commended.

You must not even read my post :failed:

No, I do not think that a government owned building is for my own personal use. I think that it should be used as it is designated (ICBC Drivers Services building being used to service the needs of drivers, perfect example) This is how I expect said building to operate.

Parking on a road is a secondary use of the road system I ( and you have already payed for ). There should be no charge to use something you have already payed to make exist. If it is an issue of the roads need higher servicing due to higher than average use then there should be something done. Charging users to park on the road that has been payed for by the users is just a cash grab. Not sure why this concept is a hard one to grasp. Its like paying to go see a movie. You get your movie ticket, go to sit down and then are charged again to get your seat...you already payed.

As for the person who issued the ticket, they were doing there job and I have no issue with that. I'm not here to say if the OP was right or wrong, that is for the legal system to determine if they decide to fight it. But if the OP feels that the ticket was unjust then I say fight for what you believe!

Just as I would expect to parking enforcement officer to write a ticket for parking and not paying.

From my post before this.....

tamago
11-04-2011, 07:03 AM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but was the ticket disputed? If so, what happened?

Nlkko
11-04-2011, 07:59 AM
You must not even read my post :failed:

No, I do not think that a government owned building is for my own personal use. I think that it should be used as it is designated (ICBC Drivers Services building being used to service the needs of drivers, perfect example) This is how I expect said building to operate.

Parking on a road is a secondary use of the road system I ( and you have already payed for ). There should be no charge to use something you have already payed to make exist. If it is an issue of the roads need higher servicing due to higher than average use then there should be something done. Charging users to park on the road that has been payed for by the users is just a cash grab. Not sure why this concept is a hard one to grasp. Its like paying to go see a movie. You get your movie ticket, go to sit down and then are charged again to get your seat...you already payed.

As for the person who issued the ticket, they were doing there job and I have no issue with that. I'm not here to say if the OP was right or wrong, that is for the legal system to determine if they decide to fight it. But if the OP feels that the ticket was unjust then I say fight for what you believe!

Just as I would expect to parking enforcement officer to write a ticket for parking and not paying.

From my post before this.....

Replying to an old thread since the other guy bumped it but go read a little bit about public goods. Parking charges is just a way for the government to ration the limited parking spaces so the street of the city of Vancouver doesn't get filled with RVs, vehicles with flat tires sitting there for ages. It also discourage people hogging the spaces and people treating it as their free parking garage.

You're paying the ticket for fucking with a perfectly well-designed system that's what you're paying.

racerman88
11-04-2011, 04:40 PM
be aware, I just found out that tickets issued in the City of Vancouver that go unpaid will go to collections now.

1exotic
11-04-2011, 06:53 PM
I parked at a Denny's parking lot. It was mid day, the lot was almost empty except some cars. I went to subway which was literally less than 20 feet away.

I come back 15 minutes later to have a DIAMOND PARKING ticket on my windshield.

notes:
"Vehicle parked in restricted or no parking area".
- Vehicle photos on file
- Plate not registered

What do you guys think of this case. Couldn't I have just left my car there for 15 min and go into Denny's and buy something. I could have but didn't.

Harvey Specter
11-04-2011, 06:55 PM
Does it mean you have the right to go into a government building and use it for personal use since you payed taxes? Afterall, it is built with your tax dollars. Your tax dollars only can pay for so much, do you think you can park free everywhere in BC just because you payed taxes?


BTW that civil servant who wrote the OP the ticket is doing his job and should be commended.

Dude, it's PAID not PAYED.

mmmk
11-04-2011, 07:36 PM
I parked at a Denny's parking lot. It was mid day, the lot was almost empty except some cars. I went to subway which was literally less than 20 feet away.

I come back 15 minutes later to have a DIAMOND PARKING ticket on my windshield.

notes:
"Vehicle parked in restricted or no parking area".
- Vehicle photos on file
- Plate not registered

What do you guys think of this case. Couldn't I have just left my car there for 15 min and go into Denny's and buy something. I could have but didn't.

The parking attendant probably saw you walk away from the parking lot after you parked your car.

bloodmack
11-04-2011, 07:47 PM
diamond parking :fuckthatshit: i haven't paid a diamond ticket in years..

1exotic
11-04-2011, 10:29 PM
Cancel my insurance tomorrow.

Get new plates.


:fuckthatshit:

haymura
11-05-2011, 07:18 AM
as someone who lives in Richmond for 25 years, i can understand why officers and attendants act like douches. most of you know that richmond is filled a variety of "colorful" drivers. if anything, Richmond is the most dense area for bad drivers. on a daily basis i see drivers pulling stupid moves or making a lot of illegal moves. Most common one is stopping just about anywhere they feel like stopping. I encounter these almost everyday! then you get ones that park on handicap just cuz the parking lot is full. There's also the ones make illegal turns and hold up traffic lanes. There's a lot more on the list but the point im making is, these "drivers" take advantage and ignore rules and regulations and when they get caught they usually brush it off like its nothing or be stubborn and keep doing it or giving a bad attitude, so i am not surprised why officers and parking attendants act like complete douches. They've simply had enough.

Cman333
11-05-2011, 09:44 AM
I parked at a Denny's parking lot. It was mid day, the lot was almost empty except some cars. I went to subway which was literally less than 20 feet away.

I come back 15 minutes later to have a DIAMOND PARKING ticket on my windshield.

notes:
"Vehicle parked in restricted or no parking area".
- Vehicle photos on file
- Plate not registered

What do you guys think of this case. Couldn't I have just left my car there for 15 min and go into Denny's and buy something. I could have but didn't.

Nope. Once you're no longer a patron of Denny's they can tow/ticket you. That area is a high traffic area and Denny's pays premium for that property for their CUSTOMERS to park there. Imagine if they were busy and had ONE spot left and you decided to park there for 15 mins. Then the rest of their customers either pay parking or just go elsewhere to eat. Why should a non patron benefit? Imagine if someone in your area has a house party and theres no more parking left and decided to park in your driveway for awhile. Although I totally understand how hard it is to find parking sometimes (I try and avoid places that are troublesome to find parking), but also understand how it feels to have people take up my parking.

We have a small parking lot (4 designated) at our shop and people ALWAYS park there for their court cases. They have no regard for our limited parking. Then our customers either park illegally or pay parking. When we have no spots left, we just box them in. Then when they try to leave they can't for awhile because we'll BS and say the guy walked off to grab coffee. One guy got smart and hopped the curb. There will be ones that come in and offer to pay, or at least ask. If we actually have parking available we usually just let them park for free. I just hate the sneaky assholes that look around after they park, they knowwwww they're doing something wrong and they continue to do it. Fuckers.

"Apparently" you can ignore DPS tickets because they can't mess with your credit if you don't pay. But if you don't pay it and keep the same plate, they'll tow your car. I don't know if it's changed.

Muskys SS
11-05-2011, 10:38 AM
I agree that the parking guy was an idiot, but stupid laws cause situations like this. I hate the new cell phone law! People try and do the right thing by pulling over to answer a cell phone, but a cell phone call doesn't warrant pulling over to the side of the street and not paying for parking. I agree that the parking attendant should not of given you a ticket, but he was following the law. That's what happens when the government implements stupid new laws like the cell phone ban it generates more stupidity!!!!
But yeah you should of just told the parking guy you are getting some change for the meter then drive away and laugh at him;)