[rageguy]

I've been taking Hydroxycut Advanced, sold for $29.99 at Superstore for 72 capsule. On it for 2.5 weeks now and I shaved off 7 pounds. Good dieting and HIIT every day. Not so much on the side effects because I'm extremely habituated to caffeine. Since I'm having such an awesome result, I'm going to switch to the Hydroxycut Hardcore Pro and see how it goes. Hopefully GNC carries it. If you are looking to shave off some weight, I think this is something to consider.

Anyone else tried Hydroxycut?

[6793026]

i hve heard of it before and it' snot uncommon, it' sbeen out for a while.

shaving 7 pounds ain't that hard. running 3 days a week shaves off 10 pounds if u run about a month. The first 10 pounds is extremely easy, it's the last 10 pounds that's hard.

it's all about dieting.

[chin3se604]

most of the weight you lose in the beginning is just water weight... see if you notice any physical changes

[XplicitLuder]

i used it. I kept taking 2-3 pills in the morning and 2-3 before my workout, so it would consistently stay in my body. Dunno if that was good or bad (prob bad) for me but it did its job and that's what one of the personal trainers told me. And i used it while doing RPM classes, so it made me sweat like a pig. Overall it did great in the sense that i lost FAT and weight, but i hated the feeling it gave me in the men's section.. lol it felt really weird

[nsmb]

get on dat der EC stack. lost 20lbs in 6 weeks, no cardio, just lifting and ate clean

cheap too

inb4 fatass
inb4 dead

take dis
http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6129.html
http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6127.html

dose
http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm

[strykn]

what nsmb said. dont need the aspirin tho.

[Jer3]

eca stacks (minus the aspirin) works. just make sure to increase dosage in increments.

1st week - 1 ephedrine 1 caffeine
2nd week - 2 ephedrine 1 caffeine
3rd week+4th week - 3 ephedrine 1 caffeine
rest for 4 weeks
repeat

with cardio and a clean diet, was able to drop 25lbs in 3 months. it was a bit extreme in my case but in moderation ull see results. healthwise, my friend whose becoming a doctor suggested eca stacks to me when i was looking to cut. he uses it as well and did his own extensive research before taking it so take that for what its worth.

[shawn79]

get on dat der ECA stack. lost 20lbs in 6 weeks, no cardio, just lifting and ate clean

cheap too

inb4 fatass
inb4 dead

take dis
Synergenex Ephedrine 8mg (Oral Nasal Decongestant) *Only Available in Eastern Region* - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6129.html)
Synergenex Caffeine 200mg - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6127.html)

dose
Hotnfit.com - EC Stack (http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm)

A friend of mine was on it and he was just sitting at home playing sc2. Going to the gym for am and pm low intensity cardio. He lost 30lb after the stack. He tried hydroxxycut 2 times didnt do much.

[rageguy]

Hmm thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into taking ECA minus the A. How long did your friend go on ECA?

[nsmb]

i didn't take aspirin, but i did take fish oils, its suppose to help counteract an increase in blood pressure. most people only do it for 6-8 week cycles. some take a month break and do another cycle

and drink alot of water... read a funny story on the misc about guy getting hemriods during his stack, and almost passing out in a public shower

[Qmx323]

just started my EC stack for fat loss, other than fish oil for BP is there anything else I should watch out for?

[Jer3]

just started my EC stack for fat loss, other than fish oil for BP is there anything else I should watch out for?

me and my buddy who also took eca stacks differed in dosage. he found 3 ephedrine to be too much so he kept it at 2. i on the other hand could take 3 fine so dont be scared to lower the dosage if the feeling is too intense. and drink lots and lots of water cause u will sweat like a pig.

[Qmx323]

did you guys start immediately with 2/3 8 mg eph tabs or started with 1 tab?

i got these 8 mg tabs of eph at GNC

[nsmb]

did you guys start immediately with 2/3 8 mg eph tabs or started with 1 tab?

i got these 8 mg tabs of eph at GNC

do the steps, i maxed out at day 7-9 dose and continued untill i ran out of eph

Day 1 - This day you just take 1 dose to test whether you are hypersensitive to ephedrine (very rare). The dose will be 1 E .5C
- symptoms of fast heart rate, and slight jitters are typical - like the feeling you get from having a lot of coffee.
Day 2-3 - You take 3 doses of 1 E .5C minimum 4 hours apart. I suggest keeping it so your last dose is at least 6 hours away from your bedtime.
Day 4-6 - Your dosing will be 2E 1C, 1E .5C, 1E .5C
Day 7-9 - 2E 1C, 2E 1C, 1E .5C
Day 9-11 - 2E 1C 3x/day
Day 12-14 - 3E 1C, 3E 1C, 2E 1C

Day 15 and onward - 3E 1C 3x/day

[Qmx323]

holy shit lol this stuff destroys my appetite

[rageguy]

Now I really want to try out EC. Even Hydroxycut lowered my appetite as well.

Hydroxycut has 200mg caffeine per pill, and you have to take 4 pills in 1 day. So each day I'm taking in 800mg of caffeine. That's more than the EC dosage mentioned above. I'm extremely caffeine tolerant so 800mg has little effect on me, except for increased sweating. Apparently some of my friends tried Hydroxycut and couldn't continue because of the caffeine.

[willystyle]

There's alot of misinformation in this thread. Refer to the links below.

EC stack (ephedrine/caffeine) FAQ - BodyBuilding (http://bodybuilding.fitness.com/fat-loss/4092-ec-stack-ephedrine-caffeine-faq.html)
Hotnfit.com - EC Stack (http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#8mg)

[Qmx323]

that's where I've been getting my information from, pretty sure the rest of these guys too

[nsmb]

had a bunch of heart palpitations within a few hours :okay:

DONE

[ShadowBun]

speaking of cutting
which protein and other supplements do you guys use?
Isoflex?

[rageguy]

I stopped taking Hydroxycut and moved to EC stack. As someone who is caffeine tolerant, I still find EC stack ridiculously strong. I am currently on 2E1C dose, 3 times a day, and that's more than I can handle. Heart rate up significantly, almost palpitation. A huge drop in appetite. I didn't even want to eat 1 meal a day. I'm going back down to 2E1C 2 times a day instead of 3 times a day.

How the hell can people take 3E1C 3 times a day?!

[Qmx323]

^ Crazy people that's who LOL

Im on week 2 and still cant handle 3e1c 3x still on 2e1c 2x

lost 9 lbs so far from 208 to 199

[strykn]

lol i get no sides from 3e1c at all. it is working tho.. might up to 4e

[Poman]

fuk all this ECS stake, did it been there done it. Yea i lost weight but I did not get SHREAD. you should try CLEN ... now that shit works.

[Qmx323]

you dont do EC stack to get shredded dude, its a fat burning aide

[hal0g0dv2]

fuk all this ECS stake, did it been there done it. Yea i lost weight but I did not get SHREAD. you should try CLEN ... now that shit works.

you are doing something wrong or you have zero muscle on you, and are some 160 pound kid thinking they need to cut

[hal0g0dv2]

you dont do EC stack to get shredded dude, its a fat burning aide

fuck cant fail

[rageguy]

Just an update. I slowly went up from 2e1c 3 times a day, to 3e1c 3 times a day. Took me 1.5 weeks to get used to it.

My appetite is low as hell. I can go without eating anything for the entire day. It's hard forcing yourself to eat. Good bye late night munchies.

[willystyle]

Just an update. I slowly went up from 2e1c 3 times a day, to 3e1c 3 times a day. Took me 1.5 weeks to get used to it.

My appetite is low as hell. I can go without eating anything for the entire day. It's hard forcing yourself to eat. Good bye late night munchies.
I am on the same boat as you. I am coming to the end of week 2. Starting 3e1c x3 per day, and I can honestly go without eating right now, but I've always been dropping..

[XplicitLuder]

...i went to look at the epi @ GNC and i totally didnt read the "oral nasal congestion" thing and i thought what i was looking at GNC wasn't this..but now i see it is LOl and i asked the guy but he said he can't talk abou that stuff...

its ok guys, ill fail myself

nvm, cant fail myself,...someone do it :alone:

[rageguy]

Since you bumped, here is another update. Hope this helps people who may want to consider EC stack.

I've been taking 3x 3e1c for the past 2 weeks. Appetite is non existent. Just for the hell of it, I tried going through the day with no food. Wake up at 8, get to work at 9, no lunch break, get off work at 4:30. Go home at 5. Dinner is ready at 6pm. Still not hungry and still did not eat anything. Just drank ~3L of water during the day.

I have lost 15lb already and still dropping more. I eat 2 meals a day. Lunch is just something light at approx 500cal. Dinner is a bit heavier at roughly 1500cal. Since I'm Chinese, dinner consists of rice (carbs).

I highly recommend taking EC. No regrets. Just remember to slowly increase the dosage. Do not go 3e1c 3x a day immediately. Also, if you have work, your colleagues will love you. You are so energized within 10 minutes. You don't have much of a crash either. I don't feel shitty at the end of the day.

Lastly, in case you guys don't know, ephedrine is basically a legal version of crystal meth. Also called speed. It really gets you going. You can't buy ephedrine in the states. Oh, and GNC currently sells ephedrine in a pouch for a cheap price. $7.49 for 100 8mg e pills.

[xmisstrinh]

Since you bumped, here is another update. Hope this helps people who may want to consider EC stack.

I've been taking 3x 3e1c for the past 2 weeks. Appetite is non existent. Just for the hell of it, I tried going through the day with no food. Wake up at 8, get to work at 9, no lunch break, get off work at 4:30. Go home at 5. Dinner is ready at 6pm. Still not hungry and still did not eat anything. Just drank ~3L of water during the day.

I have lost 15lb already and still dropping more. I eat 2 meals a day. Lunch is just something light at approx 500cal. Dinner is a bit heavier at roughly 1500cal. Since I'm Chinese, dinner consists of rice (carbs).

I highly recommend taking EC. No regrets. Just remember to slowly increase the dosage. Do not go 3e1c 3x a day immediately. Also, if you have work, your colleagues will love you. You are so energized within 10 minutes. You don't have much of a crash either. I don't feel shitty at the end of the day.

Lastly, in case you guys don't know, ephedrine is basically a legal version of crystal meth. Also called speed. It really gets you going. You can't buy ephedrine in the states. Oh, and GNC currently sells ephedrine in a pouch for a cheap price. $7.49 for 100 8mg e pills.

does EC stack affect your sleeping? like being so energized all day that its hard to sleep at night?

[strykn]

^ dont take a dose after 6 ull be fine. me on the other hand i can take 100mg of e in1 day and sleep like a baby

[XplicitLuder]

Since you bumped, here is another update. Hope this helps people who may want to consider EC stack.

I've been taking 3x 3e1c for the past 2 weeks. Appetite is non existent. Just for the hell of it, I tried going through the day with no food. Wake up at 8, get to work at 9, no lunch break, get off work at 4:30. Go home at 5. Dinner is ready at 6pm. Still not hungry and still did not eat anything. Just drank ~3L of water during the day.

I have lost 15lb already and still dropping more. I eat 2 meals a day. Lunch is just something light at approx 500cal. Dinner is a bit heavier at roughly 1500cal. Since I'm Chinese, dinner consists of rice (carbs).

I highly recommend taking EC. No regrets. Just remember to slowly increase the dosage. Do not go 3e1c 3x a day immediately. Also, if you have work, your colleagues will love you. You are so energized within 10 minutes. You don't have much of a crash either. I don't feel shitty at the end of the day.

Lastly, in case you guys don't know, ephedrine is basically a legal version of crystal meth. Also called speed. It really gets you going. You can't buy ephedrine in the states. Oh, and GNC currently sells ephedrine in a pouch for a cheap price. $7.49 for 100 8mg e pills.

correction, i stopped by GNC @ lougheed today and it was something like 7$ for 50 pills :/

[rageguy]

does EC stack affect your sleeping? like being so energized all day that its hard to sleep at night?

My third (and last) dose is 6pm. I sleep just fine at 12am. Of course, you will discover your own dosage since you will be slowly increasing the dosage week by week. If you find that you can't sleep properly, then just decrease your dosage.

correction, i stopped by GNC @ lougheed today and it was something like 7$ for 50 pills :/

Wow. I just bought them from GNC in Richmond Centre two days ago. Kaizen ephedrine 8mg 50 pills in a pouch (not bottle). 2 pouches for $7.49.

[dealt]

I started the EC stack as well and on my 5th day. It def surpresses appetite but I still try and get at least 5 meals a day in.

The thing that's real fucked up is I wake up at 8am and pop 2E,1C and go back to bed for a couple hours. Resting heart rate is around 55-60 after popping. Is that normal? Is it safe to sleep after taking EC? Sorry for the stupid question.
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[Meowjin]

why the fuck would you shop at gnc

you deserve to be ripped off.

[Qmx323]

Done cycle 1 for 6 weeks, dropped from 212 to 195 with light cardio and light lifting

also, already 1 week off stack and my appetite is waaaaay smaller now

[XplicitLuder]

why the fuck would you shop at gnc

you deserve to be ripped off.

the only reason i went there was because someone on the other thread , i think it was strykn i forget, said there were 200 epi pills for 14$ that GNC was selling so i wanted to stop by and see. But once i saw it wasn't , me = :fuckthatshit:

[604dragon]

okay so I would like to start trying this product but I wanna know wheres the best place I can either order it online or purchase it from the store for the best deal? thanks

[dealt]

okay so I would like to start trying this product but I wanna know wheres the best place I can either order it online or purchase it from the store for the best deal? thanks

Just get it at popeyes and say the ephedrine was $5 on sale last week and ask if you can get the same deal.

[XplicitLuder]

so today i bought the ECA stack materials and gonna start doing it tomrrow. Now i can kinda guess how the increments and dosage sizes i have to take by going back a couple of pages and reading, but i'm wondering wether i should take anything or buy anything else to help ? I keep hearing about the fish oil, but i don't know exactly what it does or why i should buy it. Anyone wanna share what they used while doing the eca stack (apart from the epi n caff pills ofcourse) ? Just any extra info that would be helpful. Thanks!

[willystyle]

so today i bought the ECA stack materials and gonna start doing it tomrrow. Now i can kinda guess how the increments and dosage sizes i have to take by going back a couple of pages and reading, but i'm wondering wether i should take anything or buy anything else to help ? I keep hearing about the fish oil, but i don't know exactly what it does or why i should buy it. Anyone wanna share what they used while doing the eca stack (apart from the epi n caff pills ofcourse) ? Just any extra info that would be helpful. Thanks!
Don't supplement with any other stimulants (ex. Green Tea Extract), supplement with Multi-vitamins (cause you're most likely not gonna be getting all the nutrients), and Fish Oil is used for lowering blood pressure and improving overall health.

[ShadowBun]

whats wrong with GTE with ECA?

[ShyGuy]

You don't need the A - Aspirin for it to be effective. Just do EC.

[Jer3]

whats wrong with GTE with ECA?

im curious to know the reasoning as well. this combo worked great for me.

[Meowjin]

whats wrong with GTE with ECA?

why dont you do a fucking 1 liter of coffee with it too.

[ShadowBun]

I'll fucking pass

[rageguy]

why dont you do a fucking 1 liter of coffee with it too.

Exactly. The peak dosage is 3e1c 3 times a day. Each c is 200mg. You're therefore taking 600mg of caffeine per day. To put that into perspective, each Monster energy drink has 160mg of caffeine. You're essentially taking 3.75 cans of Monster per day. This is A LOT of caffeine (stimulant) per day.

So you want to take GTE? GTE is just another stimulant. Not as strong as caffeine but it still punches. That's too much stim. That's bad for you man.

[willystyle]

whats wrong with GTE with ECA?

im curious to know the reasoning as well. this combo worked great for me.
GTE is a stimulant, like someone else has mentioned, at full dosage of EC, that's 600mg of caffeine you're consuming, which is equivalent of 6 cups of coffee per day. If you add Green Tea Extract into the mix, you will stimulate your heart even more while adding more unnecessary stress

Therefore, when you are on EC, it's best to avoid all alcoholic and caffeinated drinks that may increase your heart rate further. Essentially, it's best to drink ONLY water.

[XplicitLuder]

missed my ec dosage today :alone: didnt know i was gonna be at work the whole day

[willystyle]

Go to a dollar store, and buy yourself a weekly pill organizer so you can bring it on the go. I sort it once a week, and just bring it wherever I go, that way you will never miss your dosage.

[vafanculo]

Gonna do this. Enough pussy footing around.

I read on one of the links not to do Hiit? Those of you with success, do you do much cardio then? I like to skip and do hiit after lifting, no good?

I take it you need just proper diet and some excersize and you are good to go? Also, no pre workout drinks? :(
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[willystyle]

Gonna do this. Enough pussy footing around.

I read on one of the links not to do Hiit? Those of you with success, do you do much cardio then? I like to skip and do hiit after lifting, no good?

I take it you need just proper diet and some excersize and you are good to go? Also, no pre workout drinks? :(
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Don't do HIIT. In fact, don't go over your target heart rate (Use google to calculate this).

I don't do much cardio, but if I do, it's only power walking as I don't want to add unnecessary stress to my heart. Push yourself on weight lifting, eat a proper diet, then your weight should come off.

There's nothing stopping you from taking a pre/post-workout drink. Drink plenty of water, and avoid all caffeinated and alcoholic drinks.

[ShadowBun]

can we drink a bit of tea?

[willystyle]

can we drink a bit of tea?
Strive for decaffeinated (even though it still has a bit of caffeine). Depending on how sensitive your body is to caffeine and ephedrine in the first few days, I would hold back on drinking decaffeinated drinks for the first few weeks, so your body could build a tolerance for it.

I'm at week 4 now, I drink decaffeinated drinks cause I know my body has gotten used to the stimulants, and I don't feel any ill effects at all. As a matter of fact, all the side effects that we've discussed in this thread has diminished for me.

[neggo]

Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?

[willystyle]

Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?
Depends what your goals are. Some take this as a pre-workout supplement for energy, others take it as a fat loss aid.

[neggo]

I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight but not too much.

[XplicitLuder]

i take this 3 times a day EVERYDAY lol and when i work out (which is 6 times a week) i do my regular lifting and about 10mins of a moderate jog at the end. This is only my first week (day 7 was tonight) and my jeans feel lose and not even the belt, which at first it would only make it into the first hole LOL, can keep it in place! And now its on the last hole :fuckyea:

[hamsup]

^ huh ??? So in one week you went from your last hole of your belt to the first ??? so you lost 2 inches in 7 days ?? seems unnatural.. lol

[willystyle]

I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight but not too much.
So I take that you want to cut, follow the instructions on hotnfit, and cut out the high intensity cardio.

[willystyle]

^ huh ??? So in one week you went from your last hole of your belt to the first ??? so you lost 2 inches in 7 days ?? seems unnatural.. lol
Same, unless he's 500lb, there's no way he could lose that much in a week.

[vafanculo]

Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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[sonick]

Okay, so I'm very curious about this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I do intense cardio regularly, about 4 times a week and I also lift 3-4 times a week. If I were to take EC stacks, should I only do it on the days I lift and avoid them on days I do my intense cardio?

I'd avoid super intense cardio altogether. The thermogenic effects continues even on days you don't take the stack, and for several weeks after you stop.

Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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Start suuuper slow, drink lots of water, don't ignore side effects if you come across any.

[Qmx323]

Week 2 of off cycle.

Still sweating more than before starting cycle, appetite noticeably smaller. I had headaches and a short temper when first coming off, but that was because I didn't gradually ween the caffeine out, I just stopped it altogether lol.

[willystyle]

Purchased EC today, starting tomorrow. Thinking of doing 4 weeks worth, then take a break and see how to proceed. Sound about right?

Any tips? (not gonna lie, kinda scares - heart wise)

Will post results in 4 weeks. Starting weight 221.
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Follow the hotnfit chart and start off slow. Don't take EC if you have preexisting health conditions like heart problems. Drink lots of water, and immediately get off of the stack if you suffer severe side effects. Take your last dosage 6-8 hrs before u sleep, otherwise you'll stay up.

Week 2 of off cycle.

Still sweating more than before starting cycle, appetite noticeably smaller. I had headaches and a short temper when first coming off, but that was because I didn't gradually ween the caffeine out, I just stopped it altogether lol.
I have crazy mood problems too, it's a side effect.

[rageguy]

Yeah, I can vouch for the mood issue too. I notice that I am easier to be irritated. Kind of like short temper. Thankfully I make myself remember that this is a side effect, so I can consciously suppress it.

I'm about to be off EC. Very positive results. I'll miss the early morning super energy boost.

[vafanculo]

Thx for the tip guys.

Yea, I remember when I used thermapro few years ago (fat burner with ephedrine) I'd have crazy mood swings. A buddy of mine almost beat up a guy during a soccer game and we would always be raging.
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[XplicitLuder]

i weigh'd 292 (according to this manual weight machine thing, altho i think its wrong lol i wanna try a digital) my BF is 18-20% and this was where i put my belt on my size 40 jeans at the start of this

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt135/fockarized/IMG-20110921-00048.jpg

and now a week later , im here

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt135/fockarized/IMG-20110921-00049.jpg

[willystyle]

First of all, at 292, your body fat is NOT at 18-20%, not even if you're 7 ft. tall, if you're reading this off your home weight/bf% scale, IT'S WRONG. The only way to accurately measure your BF% is to get it professionally done.

Secondly, by first week, do you mean first week on the stack or your exercise/diet regime?

[XplicitLuder]

First of all, at 292, your body fat is NOT at 18-20%, not even if you're 7 ft. tall, if you're reading this off your home weight/bf% scale, IT'S WRONG. The only way to accurately measure your BF% is to get it professionally done.

Secondly, by first week, do you mean first week on the stack or your exercise/diet regime?

which is why i think 292 is wrong lol and im 6'5. And in feb-march i got my BF done in my PE class in gr 12 by my PE teacher (she pinched and did all that stuff thats to be done) so i know its around there, might be 21-22% i forget LOL

and i mean by the first week i mean of stack. been doing exercise for a while now

[vafanculo]

sorry for the spamming questions..i know the doses to take for EC, but what about the aspirin? looking at hotnfit, it doesnt seem to mention the A at all (well it does, but briefly).. is it better to use fish oil then?

[willystyle]

sorry for the spamming questions..i know the doses to take for EC, but what about the aspirin? looking at hotnfit, it doesnt seem to mention the A at all (well it does, but briefly).. is it better to use fish oil then?
Drop the Aspirin and supplement with fish oil and multi-vitamin.

[sonick]

^ that

[vafanculo]

so i did the first dose, 1 E and 1/2 C and I felt a bit of a rush but not much since i drink plenty of 1mr, razor8, coffee etc. Cant wait to fully start the stack.

As per your suggestions, I purchased Adult Multivitamins and Salmon & Fish oils..correct ones?

Do I just take them as prescribed on the back of their box, or do I take a couple everytime I pop an EC?

[sonick]

I'd take the vitamins and fish oils as prescribed. You can take it with the EC stack but just however many per day it suggests.

[too_slow]

get on dat der EC stack. lost 20lbs in 6 weeks, no cardio, just lifting and ate clean

cheap too

inb4 fatass
inb4 dead

take dis
Synergenex Ephedrine 8mg (Oral Nasal Decongestant) - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6129.html)
Synergenex Caffeine 200mg - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product6127.html)

dose
Hotnfit.com - EC Stack (http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm)

These guys are amazing.. I placed an order yesterday at 2pm, I got the goods delivered to my door this morning!

[Qmx323]

^ lol

they ship out of Popeyes which are plentiful all around BC

[willystyle]

vitamart.ca is cheaper if you buy in bulk..

I bought 12 bottles of Ephedrine for $40 bucks.. works out to be $3.33 per bottle, and free shipping over $50. Ordered on a Monday night, got it by Wednesday morning.

[vafanculo]

First day of eca. My nasal cavities have never felt clearer :troll:
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[xmisstrinh]

question about EC... would it be okay to use it purely as an appetite suppressant? if not, what could some alternatives be?

[XplicitLuder]

i guess you COULD, cus it does kill it LOL but why waste that $ just to kill your appetite ? you just need to have self control on yourself.

[strykn]

question about EC... would it be okay to use it purely as an appetite suppressant? if not, what could some alternatives be?

no whats the point of raising ur bp just for suppressing appetite. get oxyelite pro for an appetite suppressant.

[ree666]

question about EC... would it be okay to use it purely as an appetite suppressant? if not, what could some alternatives be?

not a good idea. if you want to suppress appetite, eat low glycemic foods and complex carbs. dont be one of those girls who just starve themselves just to lose a few lbs. its just going to eat away at your lean muscles. and metabolism falls. Just eat well and exercise, its not worth it in the long run.

im taking 2 2:1 doses a day, this is purely for pre workout. and i found that my appetite was gone for the first 3- 4 days, but its through the roof now and i constantly want to eat! its like i have the munchies after a certain activity...ahem. hahah

[vafanculo]

Day 4, still got appetite. Maybe it's the side effect of weed lol
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[rageguy]

Just wait until you step up to 3x 3e1c. :)

[XplicitLuder]

im on day 14, doing 3 2x1 , it almost doesnt hit me..i think im very tolerant to it LOL im sure ill feel it once again at 3x1

[vafanculo]

Yea, I wonder if 1mr made me immune to the caffeine.. Question is, if we don't feel the affect, does it still do it's thing?
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[willystyle]

Affect begins to go away after 2 weeks. effect doesnt get any stronger.

[sonick]

Yea, I wonder if 1mr made me immune to the caffeine.. Question is, if we don't feel the affect, does it still do it's thing?
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Yes in my experience, you'll feel the thermogenic effects a two weeks into it or so, even if you don't notice the stimulant effects. I am also fairly caffiene tolerant.
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[dealt]

Holy fuck. Missed 2 days of EC stack and had the worst headache of my life + the craziest mood swings. Extremely short tempered and blew up when little things annoyed/pissed me off.
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[Meowjin]

wow at this thread.

you guys can't just take eca stack and not expect to work out and get skinny.

and you guys are od'ing on ephidrine. I just did a stack before my workout. What you guys are doing are making me go 0_o

[XplicitLuder]

wow at this thread.

you guys can't just take eca stack and not expect to work out and get skinny.

and you guys are od'ing on ephidrine. I just did a stack before my workout. What you guys are doing are making me go 0_o

who and how ? i dont know about the other guys, but i'm just following the dosage it was suggested to do and to increase when it was time to increase :suspicious:

[hal0g0dv2]

lol at this thread

[.Dream.Time]

do you guys take this with pre-workout as well? and are you able to sleep?

I take hydroxycut hardcore + prework outs and I have a very hard time sleeping.

[willystyle]

do you guys take this with pre-workout as well? and are you able to sleep?

I take hydroxycut hardcore + prework outs and I have a very hard time sleeping.
I do, but that depends on the person. I'm able to sleep, as long I take my last dose 6-8 hours before bedtime. If you still can't sleep, take 2 instead of 3 doses.

[XplicitLuder]

do you guys take this with pre-workout as well? and are you able to sleep?

I take hydroxycut hardcore + prework outs and I have a very hard time sleeping.

i heard it's bad for your health to do both. Thats why i just stick to one or the other, then again, the EC stack is already prob killing me inside slowly :fuckthatshit:

[vafanculo]

Done 1wk as of today, still don't feel anything. Fuck I can do 2e and 1c and fall asleep lol.

Maybe I bought placebo? Also noticed only lost 1 pound this week, and I been eating good. On the plus tho, my belly area does look like it deflated a bit.
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[BrRsn]

Day 4, still got appetite. Maybe it's the side effect of weed lol
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Dieting + working out + taking eca, yet you smoke weed? :suspicious:

[willystyle]

Dieting + working out + taking eca, yet you smoke weed? :suspicious:
That's why this thread is full of laughs.

[XplicitLuder]

thinking of stopping this. The last 2 days i've been getting headaches and im believing its becus of the eca stack and my multivitamins perhaps counter-acting eachother lol soo if anyone wants to buy the rest of my ephe and caff pills lemm eknow! still got about 3-4 botttles of ephe and 150 caff pills or so

[vafanculo]

thinking of stopping this. The last 2 days i've been getting headaches and im believing its becus of the eca stack and my multivitamins perhaps counter-acting eachother lol soo if anyone wants to buy the rest of my ephe and caff pills lemm eknow! still got about 3-4 botttles of ephe and 150 caff pills or so

How long have u done it for?

I'm finally to point where doing 3e 1c x 3.. And I still feel no effects. I see a change in fat loss, but I don't get shakes or feel hyper. For all I know, I'm taking placebo's.
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[sonick]

^ do you find you sweat more at the gym? At full dosage I didn't feel hyper or get the shakes either, but noticed I'd be soaked with sweat at the gym, especially on Squats and Deads. Feels good.

[vafanculo]

^ do you find you sweat more at the gym? At full dosage I didn't feel hyper or get the shakes either, but noticed I'd be soaked with sweat at the gym, especially on Squats and Deads. Feels good.

Lol I sweated more before because I'd do cardio and hiit.. But yea, I think doing just squats and DL, I may sweat more doing those excersizes.
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[Nechako87]

Lol I sweated more before because I'd do cardio and hiit.. But yea, I think doing just squats and DL, I may sweat more doing those excersizes.
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so did you cut HIIT out of your routine? or just skip the EC on days you did HIIT?

[XplicitLuder]

How long have u done it for?

I'm finally to point where doing 3e 1c x 3.. And I still feel no effects. I see a change in fat loss, but I don't get shakes or feel hyper. For all I know, I'm taking placebo's.
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i just finished my 3rd week so im 3e 1c x 3 and im like you. no effects or shaking or anythin but i do feel fat loss. a thing that sucks too tho is that sometimes i feel like its muscle loss lol my man boobs seem flabbier :fuckthatshit:

[vafanculo]

so did you cut HIIT out of your routine? or just skip the EC on days you did HIIT?

I cut all form of cardio other than light incline walk and post lift 15min biking. Been pushing myself on weights. Just came back from gym and yea, sweated lots on deads.

I notice my chest, arms and shoulders seem tighter (more defined) and its just my belly flab now. Good news is with my fasting diet, I finally broke my plateau and lost 3 pounds within the last wk.
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[sonick]

Good news is with my fasting diet, I finally broke my plateau and lost 3 pounds within the last wk.
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Good to hear IF is working out for you.

[vafanculo]

Good to hear IF is working out for you.

Ya thanks. Been 2 wks since I started stack, and 3 days for IF. Decided to look at 2 weeks ago picture, and altho I've lost only 3 pounds, I can tell I've lost a bit of gut, and pants that were tight last month to get on, I needed a belt today. Just adds to the motivation.

What's your story? Have you lost a lot of weight before?

Any tips?
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[sonick]

no, i started off skinny-fat at 145 @ 5'8", then started 5x5 and bulking, got up to 160 but still with a bit of belly, cut down for summer to 150 using IF and ECA but with much lower bf%.
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[vafanculo]

Nice. Is IF a great method to lower bf%? My guess is I'm around 22%
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[hal0g0dv2]

Nice. Is IF a great method to lower bf%? My guess is I'm around 22%
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Try dieting first
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[doma]

Wow, some great info in here, I had literally no idea about EC stacking. Couple Questions though.

Ive never done something like this, Ive done alot of stuff like p90x ect, and I play soccer fairly intensely about 4 times a week. I dont do p90x anymore. Just soccer, would it be safe to start an EC stack? Losing weight has always been as issue. Is it as simple as order Caffine and Ephedrine pills and get some fish oil and then follow the dosage guide?

[XplicitLuder]

Wow, some great info in here, I had literally no idea about EC stacking. Couple Questions though.

Ive never done something like this, Ive done alot of stuff like p90x ect, and I play soccer fairly intensely about 4 times a week. I dont do p90x anymore. Just soccer, would it be safe to start an EC stack? Losing weight has always been as issue. Is it as simple as order Caffine and Ephedrine pills and get some fish oil and then follow the dosage guide?

i was told it might not be good to do EC stack followed by some intense cardio because the EC causes your heart to pump a lot faster..and adding the intense running, im sure it cant be good ! but take that as you please, wether you dont mind doing it , go for it just know you've been warned, or you dont wanna do it thats fine. If you do buy some, go to xfuel on boundary and lougheed (right beside BJ bmw) and ask the guy there for 6 bottles of epi and 2 of caff and tell them a buddy referred you there and it comes out to like 46$. Preetty cheap

[doma]

i was told it might not be good to do EC stack followed by some intense cardio because the EC causes your heart to pump a lot faster..and adding the intense running, im sure it cant be good ! but take that as you please, wether you dont mind doing it , go for it just know you've been warned, or you dont wanna do it thats fine. If you do buy some, go to xfuel on boundary and lougheed (right beside BJ bmw) and ask the guy there for 6 bottles of epi and 2 of caff and tell them a buddy referred you there and it comes out to like 46$. Preetty cheap

Thanks! Also, did you supplement with fish oil aka Omega 3, where can I get that?

[XplicitLuder]

Thanks! Also, did you supplement with fish oil aka Omega 3, where can I get that?

they sell it there too. I didn't though, you dont really need it but i believe it's good to have? To each it's own haha

[CL typeS]

So do you guys take fish oil pills with everytime you take EC dosage in the day? Also I dont do weights, but I do alot of martial arts training. would that be ok for my heart if i took EC and went training? Thanks

[too_slow]

^I tried to do EC before I went for boxer-fit classes and I almost died.. YMMV

[XplicitLuder]

it states not to take it if doing something that will increase your heart rate a lot ..so prob martial arts wouldn't be a good idea with it

[tegra7]

Does eph burn fat without caffine pills?

[willystyle]

People still doing EC stacks?

Look into intermittent fasting if you have not.