[johomb]

What is the average and the high income potential of car salesmen in the Vancouver area?

[Alatar]

Vague question gets vague response.

[cressydrift]

430k a year

roughly

[johomb]

Vague question gets vague response.

What type of information would you need in order to answer the question if i may ask?

[johomb]

430k a year

roughly

thanks ...
are you a salesman or know a friend who s a salesman?

[LP700-4]

430k a year

roughly

:seriously:

And doesn't it depend on how many cars you sell also?

[q0192837465]

There was an old article on Edmunds about that topic but I can't find it.
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[Gt-R R34]

What type of information would you need in order to answer the question if i may ask?

let see..

What brand, what location, Length of employment, the commission agreement. Those come to mind.

And vague questions gets vague answer.

So i'm thinking..20K to 430K (as per sarcasm :P).

[johomb]

:seriously:

And doesn't it depend on how many cars you sell also?

I think it depends on how many cars you sell, your skills, commision plan i think. but i wanted to know what was the average income and the high income potential.

[johomb]

So i'm thinking..20K to 430K (as per sarcasm :P).

That s just about the answer i needed... thanks

[Jgresch]

:fullofwin: wats going on in here?

[murd0c]

I think it depends on how many cars you sell, your skills, commision plan i think. but i wanted to know what was the average income and the high income potential.

man you can make $500 every two weeks or you can make 5k every two weeks. It's all on commission sell more cars make more cash

[Culverin]

Actually, I've always been curious about this. I did retail for about 5 years.
I was always the top seller in my store, you just learn to read people, what they really want. So let's say I'm a slightly above average salesman working at like Toyota or Honda or something. Would I be doing a shit 20k wage? Or something middling like 50k?

[Jgresch]

Depends what cars you're selling. More money in used than new. If I sell 3 big grossers in one month, I'd make way more than 10 flats on new. (depending on which new though)

Most places youre basically lookign at minimum wage. Then when you make more than your minimum you start makign commission. Flats are 150-300 at most places. And lots of used units can make you 500-1000 pretty easily. And every once in a while you can do a 2-3k if you play your cards right.

[TOS'd]

You should as TheSalesman.

[illicitstylz]

bout tree fiddy

[rsx]

this shit ain't yahoo! answers mother fucker.

[HollyZ32]

Depends what cars you're selling. More money in used than new. If I sell 3 big grossers in one month, I'd make way more than 10 flats on new. (depending on which new though)

Most places youre basically lookign at minimum wage. Then when you make more than your minimum you start makign commission. Flats are 150-300 at most places. And lots of used units can make you 500-1000 pretty easily. And every once in a while you can do a 2-3k if you play your cards right.

Bingo! Couldn't have said it better myself.
I sell cars and that is as true as it gets right there lol
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[freakshow]

this shit ain't yahoo! answers mother fucker.
The responses here sure make it feel like yahoo answers
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[Chronix]

prolly a lot. my friend makes 5-7k per month selling phones at wireless wave

[StylinRed]

prolly a lot. my friend makes 5-7k per month selling phones at wireless wave

that explains why some acquaintance i have is driving a new e-series

[twitchyzero]

Depends what cars you're selling. More money in used than new. If I sell 3 big grossers in one month, I'd make way more than 10 flats on new. (depending on which new though)

Most places youre basically lookign at minimum wage. Then when you make more than your minimum you start makign commission. Flats are 150-300 at most places. And lots of used units can make you 500-1000 pretty easily. And every once in a while you can do a 2-3k if you play your cards right.

and in layman's?

[b92]

3-5% i believe..some months u can make a fat paycheck. Most car salesman are not used to getting a fat paycheck once they get paid so they go out, party like a rockstar and getting fucked cause some weeks/months they make shit and they didn't save up. Buddy is a salesman btw.

[drunkrussian]

that explains why some acquaintance i have is driving a new e-series

u can make $20/hour and drive an e-series, wooptidoo

one of my neighbours works for honda...he doesnt make very much
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[nns]

^Maybe it's cause he's an awful salesman?

Or spends his money on pepsi and Vandirty sluts?

[StylinRed]

u can make $20/hour and drive an e-series, wooptidoo


i guess you could think like that in that same context a guy making $20/hr could drive a cls too or a porsche, r8, etc


but in reality most people have other priorities..


my surprise was how much someone working @ wireless wave was making

[7seven]

All you needed to do was a quick Google search

http://i55.tinypic.com/2aflwyh.jpg

PayScale Canada - Auto/Car Dealership Industry Salary, Average Salaries (http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Industry=Auto%2FCar_Dealership/Salary)

[drunkrussian]

^Maybe it's cause he's an awful salesman?

Or spends his money on pepsi and Vandirty sluts?

if he was awful he would not have still been working there after years of work and being promoted. he is not poor, he is middle class. but he certainly is not rich. also, hes a 40 sth year old family man so he does not fit this vandirty army description lol...altho...

i guess you could think like that in that same context a guy making $20/hr could drive a cls too or a porsche, r8, etc


but in reality most people have other priorities..

my point is that judging how rich someone is by their car or clothing is retarded and unfortunate. half the country is in debt becauee they drive what they cant afford and live in houses they should not have bought. if car salesmen do spend their money lavishly like some ppl in this thread said, then its an even worse predictor.
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[Cman333]

It's commission based sales. So comes down to how well a salesman can build rapport, product knowledge, service, after sales service, etc etc etc.

It's like asking how much a real estate agent makes annually. You could make zero or $500,000.

My dad used to work at Dueck GM a longgg time ago and he barely made 2000 a month. You make like a couple hundred on an entry level car depending on the discounts and profit margins.

I've heard of people making 100k+ at higher end dealerships. But that's like putting in 6-7 day work weeks. Commission sales is purely on your performance and how well you can sell (or lie).

[b0unce. [?]]

car salesman are just a different breed of humans lol

[falcon]

The answer to your question is... not as much as you think.

Car sales is a very lucrative job however rarely do salesmen crack the 50-60k/year mark. And the job is not great. Long hours, shitty co-workers, work weekends/nights, really stupid "totem pole" i.e you start in the sub-basement etc.

If you want to make good money and not have to work that hard with none of the above, motorcycle sales is where it's at. I made 55k my first year and it's a very seasonal job. Make %80 of that from May-Aug.

[CP.AR]

the place i'm working at is hiring for 40k/year + bonus in the form of an IS-F.

let me know

[falcon]

All you needed to do was a quick Google search

http://i55.tinypic.com/2aflwyh.jpg

PayScale Canada - Auto/Car Dealership Industry Salary, Average Salaries (http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Industry=Auto%2FCar_Dealership/Salary)

Lol, reading that I can say I will NEVER go into auto sales. M/C sales add %25 on all those numbers. Not just sales, but manager positions etc.


Bottom line is, unless you're one of the very few who sell BMW, Merc, Audi etc. and are actually GOOD and commit a shit ton of time to it... you'll make average money.

[johomb]

the place i'm working at is hiring for 40k/year + bonus in the form of an IS-F.

let me know

where are you working at? what is the car brand?

[Drow]

where are you working at? what is the car brand?

:troll:

[.Dream.Time]

wtf cell phone sellers make more or aobut the same as car salesman... lol

[2damaxmr2]

Not a lot of people could afford a new car on yearly basis.

[Gridlock]

wtf cell phone sellers make more or aobut the same as car salesman... lol

Makes you think about a) markup and b) how much a monthly contract is really worth to telecoms.

[BlackZRoadster]

All you needed to do was a quick Google search

http://i55.tinypic.com/2aflwyh.jpg

PayScale Canada - Auto/Car Dealership Industry Salary, Average Salaries (http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Industry=Auto%2FCar_Dealership/Salary)

Completey inaccurate. SM makes at least 90k a year GSM at least 120k
I'm in sales and let's just say I made at least double of what is on that report
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[BlackZRoadster]

The answer to your question is... not as much as you think.

Car sales is a very lucrative job however rarely do salesmen crack the 50-60k/year mark. And the job is not great. Long hours, shitty co-workers, work weekends/nights, really stupid "totem pole" i.e you start in the sub-basement etc.

If you want to make good money and not have to work that hard with none of the above, motorcycle sales is where it's at. I made 55k my first year and it's a very seasonal job. Make %80 of that from May-Aug.

Don't give out false info dude. Hours are short, i work 35 hours a week. I'm sure there are no bad co workers in motorcycle sales, yeh right. Many car sales crack 50k a year yet you say it's rare???
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[drunkrussian]

car sales and cellphone sales and selling high end bags are all consumer sales. the real money is in b2b. salesmen at my company crack 100+

so to think about the salary is kinda stupid. if ur super into cars and wanna do sales it shouldnt matter.
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[falcon]

Don't give out false info dude. Hours are short, i work 35 hours a week. I'm sure there are no bad co workers in motorcycle sales, yeh right. Many car sales crack 50k a year yet you say it's rare???
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Sorry if you took offense. I'm just speaking from my experience with co workers/former co workers who have worked in auto sales. The swing shifts and evening shifts suck as do working weekends. I worked a 9-5, make good money and the majority of my co workers were not dead beats. I wasn't implying everyone was... just the large amount I know of...


50k a year is easy. 100k is not. Too many people get into auto sales thinking they are going to rake in 100k+/yr with little to no work or commitment.

[BlackZRoadster]

50k is easy you say but you said earlier that most don't crack 50k. Isn't that kind of contradicting yourself.

No offense taken but debates are fun and informative
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[Rich Sandor]

Completey inaccurate. SM makes at least 90k a year GSM at least 120k
I'm in sales and let's just say I made at least double of what is on that report
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What dealer are you at where the SM make at least 90k a year?

edit: n/m I thought by SM you meant Salesmen as opposed to Sales Manager.

Yes most SM's make 90k/year

[Rich Sandor]

At my dealer it varies from $25,000/yr to $110,000/yr. Most guys are in the $30,000range and only a couple are near $100,000 - and they work 6, sometimes 7 days a week, usually 10 hour days. A lot of it has to do with your work ethic. But I have to laugh when I see this thread title. "Sales" and "Salary" are rarely ever used in the same sentence.

[AzNightmare]

lol, all these responses are kinda like yahoo answers.

[Death2Theft]

Fiat.
where are you working at? what is the car brand?

[josayeee]

wtf cell phone sellers make more or aobut the same as car salesman... lol

i do the taxes for 3 of my buddies who work in the mall selling cell phones full time. they make 90k, 70k, and 55k.

[seakrait]

i do the taxes for 3 of my buddies who work in the mall selling cell phones full time. they make 90k, 70k, and 55k.
wtf. crazy.

[FerrariEnzo]

isnt it tough working as a car salesman?

[BlackZRoadster]

Fiat.

They get an is-f as a bonus and yet they are selling Fiat?
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[johomb]

Fiat.
really???
i did not know they had Fiat in Canada. I don t see any in the road. I am living in Quebec.
i know they are big in Europe though.

[johomb]

i do the taxes for 3 of my buddies who work in the mall selling cell phones full time. they make 90k, 70k, and 55k.


reallly? ?? and what do your buddies say about the workload.?

[SiRV]

:troll:

I don't get the joke lol..... someone explain?

[falcon]

At my dealer it varies from $25,000/yr to $110,000/yr. Most guys are in the $30,000range and only a couple are near $100,000 - and they work 6, sometimes 7 days a week, usually 10 hour days. A lot of it has to do with your work ethic. But I have to laugh when I see this thread title. "Sales" and "Salary" are rarely ever used in the same sentence.

See, this is what my understanding was originally from people I know who worked in the industry.

It's like real estate. Easy to make 30k yr, put a little work in and you can crack 40-50k, spend your whole life working and you'll make bank. It's the same thing with car sales.

[johomb]

At my dealer it varies from $25,000/yr to $110,000/yr. Most guys are in the $30,000range and only a couple are near $100,000 - and they work 6, sometimes 7 days a week, usually 10 hour days. A lot of it has to do with your work ethic. But I have to laugh when I see this thread title. "Sales" and "Salary" are rarely ever used in the same sentence.

What are the requirements to start working as a car salesman?
Do you need any type of license?
Do you have to have some previous sales experience?
How could someone who doesn t have any sales experience start working at a dealership?

[falcon]

Yes you need a license, you should have exp or you have a high chance of failing. But if you're a likeable person that isn't a sleazeball and know your product and can close you should do OK.

Just apply. See what happens. That's what i did.

[johomb]

Yes you need a license, you should have exp or you have a high chance of failing. But if you're a likeable person that isn't a sleazeball and know your product and can close you should do OK.

Just apply. See what happens. That's what i did.

where can i get info about getting the license?
Would any dealership do? i like toyota :)

[heleu]

One of the perks that some sales people get is VERY subsidized lease rates. My friend works at MB and he can afford to lease an E-class at much lower than market value...although he really doesn't make very much.

[jbsali]

it all depends on the your work ethic/ sales skills and ofcourse.. connections. My dad's best year in fleet sales was 290k a year.. average is around 150 to 180k. mind you.. the guys been in car sales for 30 years...

average salesman is about 60k+ from what i've been told.. and i'll take his word for it lol. Again this all depends on skills, experience, etc..
Theres also guys that make 30-40k a year and shouldn't be in car sales..

[CP.AR]

I don't get the joke lol..... someone explain?

Anthony Espinosa.

Look up Dr.Mike's thread of "scammed out of 40k... anyone know anthony espinosa?"

[Lomac]

really???
i did not know they had Fiat in Canada. I don t see any in the road. I am living in Quebec.
i know they are big in Europe though.

Fiat owns Chrysler now. The 500 is available in Canada at the moment, and I believe they plan on bringing a couple more cars over in the next year.

[Chronix]

reallly? ?? and what do your buddies say about the workload.?

he works 7 days a week but he can get it off whenever he wants to.

but yea most of his cellphone commissions are based off warranties and phone plans. and he is a very good salesman. the company gave him a $10000 credit card and he can use it on hookers and blows or w/e he want.

[BlackZRoadster]

Drug dealers take credit cards now?
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[king_2011]

Drug dealers take credit cards now?
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Maybe they'll also take debit too? :troll:
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[king_2011]

Drug dealers take credit cards now?
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And hookers take credit cards now also? :troll: DAMN !! Shit just got real !
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[johomb]

Fiat owns Chrysler now. The 500 is available in Canada at the moment, and I believe they plan on bringing a couple more cars over in the next year.

Good Info thanks.

[johomb]

he works 7 days a week but he can get it off whenever he wants to.

but yea most of his cellphone commissions are based off warranties and phone plans. and he is a very good salesman. the company gave him a $10000 credit card and he can use it on hookers and blows or w/e he want.

I had no idea that those salesmen at the Fido booth could earn so much.
Do they also need a license before working in that field?

[nns]

he works 7 days a week but he can get it off whenever he wants to.

but yea most of his cellphone commissions are based off warranties and phone plans. and he is a very good salesman. the company gave him a $10000 credit card and he can use it on hookers and blows or w/e he want.

This would almost sound believable, if not for the last part. What kind of business would give their subordinates a credit card with a $10,000 limit, and request no discretion on the items charged to it?

Maybe such a business exists. But to give it to a cell phone salesman? Why bother?

[drunkrussian]

^yeah it sounds like some heresay bullshit. why would he even need a credit card? he has no work related expenses
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[BlackZRoadster]

I dont care how good you are at cellphone or car sales, you won't get a CC to use for your own benefits.
I've been awarded with pre-paid CC for hundreds as a bonus but never a company CC that let's u freely use. Even managers at car dealerships who have a work CC, they get regularly monthly checks to see where it was used FOR the business.
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[static]

Here is the absolute high end, Sales Manager at Ferrari.

Stuart Coutts

And

Brian Jessel Autosports Inc., and Brian Jessel Sport

Cars Inc., carrying on business as Brian Jessell Ferrari

CanLII - 2004 BCSC 617 (CanLII) (http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlight.do?text=FERRARI&language=en&searchTitle=British+Columbia&path=/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2004/2004bcsc617/2004bcsc617.html)


[1] Stuart Coutts was employed by Brian Jessel Sport Cars Inc. (“Brian Jessel Ferrari”) as a Sales Manager of Ferrari vehicle sales for about 4½ years. The Ferrari dealership closed on May 24, 2003, thus terminating Mr. Coutts’ employment. Mr. Coutts sues for damages for wrongful dismissal and also for commissions that he says he earned on three sales that took place prior to the conclusion of his employment.

[2] The defendant, Brian Jessel Sports Cars Inc., says that it gave the plaintiff eleven weeks of working notice, plus the equivalent of an additional seven weeks’ salary. The defendant says the amount paid is sufficient to satisfy its obligation to give Mr. Coutts reasonable notice of termination of his employment.



Facts

[3] The facts in this case are relatively straightforward and I have concluded that the matter is capable of resolution at a summary trial. Both parties agree that the matter can be resolved on a summary trial basis. Any conflicts in the evidence are minor or can be resolved on the basis of the various affidavits and discovery evidence tendered at this summary trial.

[4] Stuart Coutts began his employment with the predecessor of Brian Jessel Sport Cars Inc., Brian Jessel Autosports Inc., in the fall of 1998. In these Reasons for Judgment I will refer only to the defendant Brian Jessel Sport Cars Inc. I am told by counsel that it is the correct defendant.

[5] Mr. Coutts’ earnings during the years that he worked for the defendant were as follows:

1998 $ 18,311.00 3 months

1999 $165,949.53 12 months

2000 $206,565.98 12 months

2001 $300,587.32 12 months

2002 $282,763.81 12 months

2003 $107,112.20 5 months

[MindBomber]

he works 7 days a week but he can get it off whenever he wants to.

but yea most of his cellphone commissions are based off warranties and phone plans. and he is a very good salesman. the company gave him a $10000 credit card and he can use it on hookers and blows or w/e he want.

Number one rule of lying, make it somewhat believable.

:failed:

[Chronix]

the hookers and blows part is obviously a joke. the rest is true. he doesnt work at a fido booth. he works at wireless wave in metrotown which is busy. he makes a lot of money for the company because he pretty much can get them hookup with any cellphone companies and not restricted to one.

[johomb]

the hookers and blows part is obviously a joke. the rest is true. he doesnt work at a fido booth. he works at wireless wave in metrotown which is busy. he makes a lot of money for the company because he pretty much can get them hookup with any cellphone companies and not restricted to one.

i see... got a a question.
do people at a fido booth could earn about the same... Or those are mostly on a salary?
I guess one of the advantages of working at a wireless wave is not being limited to one wireless carrier.

[Wongtouski]

I dunno how much one makes, but I know who you can ask though.....this man

http://mimg.ugo.com/200908/10635/the-goods-poster-debut.jpg

[punkwax]

^ that movie is better the 2nd time you watch it.
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[josayeee]

reallly? ?? and what do your buddies say about the workload.?

they work 5 days a week and typical 7-8 hour days. they don't get the credit card nor do they have any major selling expenses. I don't think fido is as lucrative as they sell lower end phones.
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