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murd0c
08-08-2011, 02:46 PM
So just found out on my English buddies FB that right now in Londond they are on day 3 of rioting. From my understanding a unarmed late 20 yr old was shot in the head which set everything off.
I'm act work so can't search much but if anyone can put up info that would be wicked.
ShadowBun
08-08-2011, 02:54 PM
London riots erupt after fatal police shooting - World - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/06/world-london-tottenham-riots-police-shooting.html)
saw this on the news yesterday.
it basically happened before. Story is always police seems too violent so people get pissed and destroy stuff...
RRxtar
08-08-2011, 02:59 PM
riots are so hot right now. :fullofwin:
I've been following this. I have friends who live all over London. One friend who lives in North London who said he found coat hangers at his door in the morning - from people who were looting the marks and sparks down the street.
The man who was shot and killed was alleged to have had a pistol on him. He was alleged to have shot AT the officers and was shot and killed. There were original rumours that he was shot and killed on the ground execution style - but obviously those were untrue.
BBC News - Tottenham police shooting: Dead man was minicab passenger (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14423942)
Anyways, the riots are happening ALL over the city. Apparently messages are being broadcasted on social media - and people just meet and start causing shit. Youth gangs are a big problem as well. Originally - people were just breaking stuff and lighting shops/cars/bins on fire - but now they're looting as well. Someone said a Curry's (sorta like a futureshop) was broken into, and the computers were SMASHED, not stolen - which is retarded, IMO.
RacePace
08-08-2011, 03:27 PM
Its also spread to other cities, Birmingham, and Wolverhampton I think
zulutango
08-08-2011, 05:16 PM
London riots erupt after fatal police shooting - World - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/06/world-london-tottenham-riots-police-shooting.html)
saw this on the news yesterday.
it basically happened before. Story is always police seems too violent so people get pissed and destroy stuff...
To quote the CBC...The melee followed a peaceful march to the station to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, a father of four who was riding in a taxi on Thursday when he apparently became involved in a gunfight with police.
Sounds like the "unarmed 20 year old" was anything but that. He got too violent, not the Police. Could never figure out how rioting and destroying property solved anything?
Bonjour43MA
08-08-2011, 05:31 PM
28 days later...
TRDood
08-08-2011, 05:37 PM
Riots solve nothing. Stupid kids.
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Do they have martial law in the UK? I don't think they do.
The cops and the firefighters should douse water on all of them. Open up the hydrants. No one likes being in wet clothes. Once they start to disperse, send in the troops.
will068
08-08-2011, 06:14 PM
From what I heard from a friend who lives in the UK, North London is a bad part of greater London. Mostly populated by the lower income households. Then again, his family is wealthy.
pastarocket
08-08-2011, 06:25 PM
A friend of mine is studying for his PHd in psychology at London University. He has a strange sense of timing. When the Vancouver riots happened in June, he was in London. Then when he comes to Vancouver, riots happen back in the old country.
Good luck to the English cops in keeping security tight in the 2012 Olympics.
bloodmack
08-08-2011, 07:08 PM
wtf? cops do their job and people riot about it instead of whining on a internet forum? WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO?
Gridlock
08-08-2011, 07:11 PM
and Vancouver is off the hook!
seakrait
08-08-2011, 08:17 PM
the wife and i are heading to london in september. let's hope this shit blows over quick.
insomniac
08-08-2011, 11:12 PM
things are looking pretty bad :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIZV4YYQ2P8&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnWsQFPM4A0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HEdukcOwDk&feature=player_embedded
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnfq9pWhV1qd042zo1_500.jpg http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnastr1sj1qc673xo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnfatOwOB1r1o742o1_500.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnf6nSeqh1qiixsgo1_500.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnccf5FEu1qmqdbxo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnehnVyFo1qzxvjlo1_500.jpg
From what I heard from a friend who lives in the UK, North London is a bad part of greater London. Mostly populated by the lower income households. Then again, his family is wealthy.
Honestly, EVERY part of London has pretty bad areas.
North London, East London (around Mile End is horrible), South London (Brixton).
In London - the city is divided into separate boroughs, and each borough MUST have Council Homes which are basically gov't subsidized housing. Obvously, some areas are worse than others. But if you've heard of Chav's - which I'm sure can be used to describe a lot of the idiots who are causing the damage - actually stands for Council Home'd and Violent.
Santofu
08-08-2011, 11:41 PM
Fuck, I hope my friend who is on vacation in London is safe...
Culverin
08-08-2011, 11:50 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnf6nSeqh1qiixsgo1_500.jpg
^
Nooooooooo, the TARDIS!!!!
:seriously:
Pretty sure that's shopped.
Bouncing Bettys
08-09-2011, 12:30 AM
and Vancouver is off the hook!
not so fast! :troll:
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/4782047.bin
NiceGirl
08-09-2011, 12:34 AM
my bf has been watching all morning. he's pretty upset since they're rioting where he was born.
here's a map of where the riots are happening
London riots: all incidents mapped in London and around the UK - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8689355/London-riots-all-incidents-mapped-in-London-and-around-the-UK.html)
apparently, Olympic officials are really concerned about the security for the games now.
murmur
08-09-2011, 02:28 AM
bad news for the football fans
the friendly between England and Netherlands has been cancelled due to the riot.
Ronin
08-09-2011, 03:30 AM
Holy balls...it got pretty bad.
7seven
08-09-2011, 08:13 AM
To quote the CBC...The melee followed a peaceful march to the station to protest against the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, a father of four who was riding in a taxi on Thursday when he apparently became involved in a gunfight with police.
Sounds like the "unarmed 20 year old" was anything but that. He got too violent, not the Police. Could never figure out how rioting and destroying property solved anything?
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00633/6-duggan_633927t.jpg
This was the guy that was shot, which set off the initial riot. Apparently he was carrying a starter pistol modified to fire live ammunition but now there are doubts if he actually fired on officers as reports that the initial test show the bullet that struck the officers' radio was from police issued ammunition. At this point its still not clear what happened, but the guy was known to police, had ties to gangs and was carrying a pistol.
Fragments of a bullet modified to maximise its destructive power were last night being analysed to cast crucial light on what happened at around 6.15pm last Thursday when police marksmen surrounded the minicab carrying Mark Duggan alongside a north London reservoir and shot him dead.
As clashes broke out for the third night running in the worst rioting seen in the capital for decades, scientists were analysing the remains of ammunition found in the radio of an armed officer involved in the arrest operation in Tottenham Hale to answer the key question of whether the 29-year-old opened fire on his pursuers moments before he died.
Investigators yesterday refused to confirm reports that initial results from the tests by the National Ballistics Intelligence Service suggested that the bullet fragments were from police-issue ammunition, meaning they could not have been from a weapon fired by Mr Duggan and casting doubt on claims that he was killed in an exchange of gunfire. According to reports last night, the suspected gang member was carrying a starter pistol modified to fire live bullets.
A dead man, a crucial question: should police have shot Mark Duggan? - Crime, UK - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/a-dead-man-a-crucial-question-should-police-have-shot-mark-duggan-2334133.html)
not so fast! :troll:
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/4782047.bin
?? that doesnt look like a riot picture at all.
Psykopathik
08-09-2011, 08:54 AM
lol ^^ canucks flag.
CP.AR
08-09-2011, 08:59 AM
I want to see the queen/royal family come out and just yell
WTF IS THIS ABOUT AGAIN? CAN ANYONE ANSWER ME?
6insomnia9
08-09-2011, 09:01 AM
RIM has decided to help the Police to aid in arrests , but TeaMp0isoN says fuck off and hacks Blackberry's blog saying this:
Dear Rim;
You Will _NOT_ assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the Police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment…. if you do assist the police by giving them chat logs, gps locations, customer information & access to peoples BlackBerryMessengers you will regret it, we have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we _WILL_ make this information public and pass it onto rioters…. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps? Think about it…. and don’t think that the police will protect your employees, the police can’t protect themselves let alone protect others….. if you make the wrong choice your database will be made public, save yourself the embarrassment and make the right choice. don’t be a puppet..
p.s – we do not condone in innocent people being attacked in these riots nor do we condone in small businesses being looted, but we are all for the rioters that are engaging in attacks on the police and government…. and before anyone says “the blackberry employees are innocent” no they are not! They are the ones that would be assisting the police
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Jsunu
08-09-2011, 09:10 AM
?? that doesnt look like a riot picture at all.
It was during the royal wedding...
Fuck sad to see all these old heritage buildings gone in flames. :okay:
Bouncing Bettys
08-09-2011, 09:14 AM
?? that doesnt look like a riot picture at all.
and it isn't - its a pic from the recent royal wedding. It was suggested that Vancouver is off the hook for its riot now with this larger London riot. I was jokingly suggesting that perhaps, with the evidence of Canuck fans existing in London, that they might have been involved in these riots as well.
bakasam
08-09-2011, 10:05 AM
With riots spreading from London to other cities in the UK, sales of aluminum baseball bats on Amazon.com's UK website have risen an astonishing 6,000%.
And no, the British haven't suddenly developed a love for America's national pastime. While the Rucanor aluminum bat (a steal at £17.15) is sitting proudly atop Amazon's list of "Movers and Shakers", the "Military Police Telescopic Tonfa" occupying the #2 spot paints a frightening picture of the current situation.
The Mirror notes that "there are a total of seven different kinds of baseball bats" in the list's top ten
However, Gizmodo points out that the "Zumba DVD workout set is up 342 per cent, which probably isn't related" to the riots.
Baseball Bat Sales Up 6,000% As London Riots Continue | The Daily Feed | Minyanville.com (http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2011/08/09/baseball-bat-sales-up-6000/?camp=syndication&medium=portals&from=yahoo)
shenmecar
08-09-2011, 10:20 AM
^
at least one business is booming due to this
AlphaKappa
08-09-2011, 10:20 AM
How are people this fucking stupid? The reason this riot started is because a guy shot a policeman, and the policeman naturally fires back, naturally. I mean, :seriously:?
This video made me just ... They either need to call the army in, or start firing shots, in the rioters' minds i'm thinking they won't stop until all cops are dead i'm guessing? Since this is the reason why they're rioting... over one fucking incident
‪Riot police in Woolwich, London attacked 8th August 2011 - London Riot‬‏ - YouTube
Teh Doucher
08-09-2011, 10:43 AM
civil unrest is going on in so many parts of the world...
12/12/12 seems that much realer.
jk. riots are fucked up though. but there doesn't seem to be one solid story on what happened with the suspect though.. one story says he did fire and the other story doesn't. so..
I see the ad for fish and chips. I want fish and chips now.
Thank god for RS ads
Even the seagulls are joining in on the looting.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/29301_442976909814_310716489814_5773694_3162803_n. jpg
My friend's dad works in a 24hr Tesco in London. Apparently last night at around 2am, the employees see a group of chavs moving in towards the tesco, they run into the office and lock the door. the group loots the tesco, empties the registers and trashes the place.
How are people this fucking stupid? The reason this riot started is because a guy shot a policeman, and the policeman naturally fires back, naturally. I mean, :seriously:?
This video made me just ... They either need to call the army in, or start firing shots, in the rioters' minds i'm thinking they won't stop until all cops are dead i'm guessing? Since this is the reason why they're rioting... over one fucking incident
‪Riot police in Woolwich, London attacked 8th August 2011 - London Riot‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIZV4YYQ2P8)
As soon as the police took one step back, the rioters knew they had the upper hand. Why did the cops retreat in the first place? The one cop charged a rioter in the beginning, but that was it. My guess is the cops were told by their superiors to retreat. Lame.
Manic!
08-09-2011, 12:53 PM
How are people this fucking stupid? The reason this riot started is because a guy shot a policeman, and the policeman naturally fires back, naturally. I mean, :seriously:?
The bullet that hit the cop was police issue from what I understand. The guy was unarmed.
StylinRed
08-09-2011, 01:09 PM
all of the UK is a ghetto even the wealthy areas... heck the biggest welfare cheque collector lives in the royal palace ;)
Im not that surprised that the rioting has actually grown; for some back story
riots have been going on in the UK for a long time there's always an excuse some that make sense (wars, inflation, etc) some that don't (like a soccer game loss)
the anger against police has been brewing, exploding, for some time especially since the terrorism act where ordinary citizens/tourists get hassled and searched simply for standing around a govt. building too long or taking pictures
this issue, for what sounds like an execution, is certainly going to be an excuse to vent all anger @ police
TheNewGirl
08-09-2011, 01:32 PM
The UK has historical unemployment at the moment and they're in as bad or worse shape than the states atm. On top of that their country just spent a boat load of cash on a royal wedding, is going to spend more on the olympics and then later on the royal jubilee.
They also have a major education crisis, with education and literacy rates particularly amongst boys falling rapidly.
Acts of terrorism have got people freightened and on edge.
This leads to a generation of young people who all around pretty much seem to feel everything is hopeless. :(
bloodmack
08-09-2011, 01:40 PM
The UK has historical unemployment at the moment and they're in as bad or worse shape than the states atm. On top of that their country just spent a boat load of cash on a royal wedding, is going to spend more on the olympics and then later on the royal jubilee.
They also have a major education crisis, with education and literacy rates particularly amongst boys falling rapidly.
Acts of terrorism have got people freightened and on edge.
This leads to a generation of young people who all around pretty much seem to feel everything is hopeless. :(
I'm pretty much there already, lol.
RRxtar
08-09-2011, 02:06 PM
How are people this fucking stupid? The reason this riot started is because a guy shot a policeman, and the policeman naturally fires back, naturally. I mean, :seriously:?
This video made me just ... They either need to call the army in, or start firing shots, in the rioters' minds i'm thinking they won't stop until all cops are dead i'm guessing? Since this is the reason why they're rioting... over one fucking incident
‪Riot police in Woolwich, London attacked 8th August 2011 - London Riot‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIZV4YYQ2P8)
shit. when that huge group came running around the corner i couldnt believe it. it was like a movie. even the guy holding the camera said "holy fuckin hell"
TheNewGirl
08-09-2011, 02:18 PM
BBC News - London riots: Timeline and map of violence (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14436499)
StylinRed
08-09-2011, 03:47 PM
wow... racist Sun News is blaming Blacks for the riots and then saying "no racist" lol
saying Blacks are always violent ever since they got into Tottenham and causing all sorts of problems
then for the White rioters they say that they're not violent they just came in after the violence was done to mimic the blacks (so its the blacks fault for making whites act like violent goofs)
StylinRed
08-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Mark Duggan death: 'No evidence' Tottenham man opened fire
There is no evidence Mark Duggan opened fire at police before being shot dead by a firearms officer, the Independent Police Complaints Commission has said.
BBC News - Mark Duggan death: 'No evidence' Tottenham man opened fire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516)
7seven
08-09-2011, 08:21 PM
Amazingly London police and England security forces do not have water cannons, LRAD or ADS options, shocking especially with Olympic security preparations underway. They don't even have a specialized crowd control/riot force. Their police officers don't even have much experience with, and a limited amount of supplies of ARWEN or tear gas options, hell most of their regular police officers don't even carry firearms.
I've put together a security report as a private contractor before for an event in London and water cannon options can be brought in from Ireland, LRAD can be brought in from France and ADS option can be brought in from the US base in Ramstein. It's time to go on the offensive, these riots are getting way out of hand and London's regular police forces are not properly equipped enough to deal with sustained riots of this size. Their culture to policing is extremely passive (ie... police officers not carrying firearms, under equipped). It's time to borrow water cannons from Ireland and the use of ARWEN guns with rubber ammunition with these riots continuing and growing.
BBC News - Mark Duggan death: 'No evidence' Tottenham man opened fire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516)
Clearly its evident that the officer was wrong in his account of what happened pertaining to the suspect opening fire, looks pretty messed up at this time. However, personally I'll withhold judgement until the witness gives his side of the story, the suspect did have a pistol on him and if he did raise it towards the officer, even without firing, I would say it was a justified shooting, if not, then a clear fuck up.
StylinRed
08-09-2011, 09:13 PM
i think the results of the investigation wont do much in regards to the rioting as the damage has been done (to public perception and material)
side note
Chilean students have been protesting/rioting for weeks (about the education system) it sounds by this article
and clashing with police who are using water cannons
BBC News - Chilean students clash with riot police in Santiago (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14459281)
CorneringArtist
08-09-2011, 10:14 PM
Welp, some dumbass is trying to hock his loot on Craigslist...as far as I know anyways. That, or fake iPhones.
40 Apple iPhone 4's 16GB (http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html)
and in case the ad goes down...
Wongtouski
08-09-2011, 10:41 PM
I wonder what Rodney King is thinking right now
Jermyzy
08-10-2011, 04:19 PM
7seven called it. They're bringing in water cannons
Cameron hails riots 'fightback', approves water cannon - Yahoo! (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/flames-rioting-engulf-london-third-day-034822852.html)
spades
08-10-2011, 05:43 PM
Horrible scene of violence in UK riots
Manchester Riots 2011: scenes from Whalley Range - YouTube
cliffhanger33
08-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Hangover 2 riot scene
Hangover 2 "fuck the police" - YouTube
iEatClams
08-11-2011, 04:56 PM
one of the worst and most watched video of the riot.
Student gets beaten up by mob, then robbed by people purporting to help him has become the signature image of the London riots.
London Riots 2011 - Man Helped and Then Robbed. (Malaysian student / Asyraf Haziq) - YouTube
stuff like this piss me off.
AlphaKappa
08-11-2011, 06:47 PM
if that was me and i had a shotgun.. :fuckthatshit:
Let The Bodies Hit The Floor (Lyrics) - YouTube
AutozamAZ-3
08-11-2011, 10:35 PM
London Riots. (The BBC will never replay this. Send it out) - YouTube
MR_BIGGS
08-12-2011, 07:26 AM
Can someone explain the significance of the 81' protests/riots.
krazynuck
08-12-2011, 08:00 AM
Can someone explain the significance of the 81' protests/riots.
FROM WASHINGTON POST
England caught fire during that other royal-wedding year, 1981. But 30 years ago, the battle lines were relatively clear. Race was central, especially in the predominantly black south London neighborhood of Brixton. The target then was a police force charged with racial bias. But the recent explosions have had none of that clarity
seems to be race related the 81 riots
I was reading this article last ahah only reason why I could answer this :)....however this is the opinion column so take it with a grain of salt
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-isnt-behind-the-london-riots/2011/08/10/gIQAnBGg8I_story.html
will068
08-12-2011, 12:34 PM
Wow. should be fun. The company will be sending me out to London for work on the 19th.
I am still wanting to see an official report if the Duggan was carrying a gun and if it was flagrantly exposed to the police. If he did, yes it's shoot to kill. It may be wrong, but don't give trigger happy police officers the opportunity to shoot you.
StylinRed
08-12-2011, 01:26 PM
this happened a couple days ago and its supposedly being investigated
shows a riot team rush to an intersection and tackle some cyclists it looks like they were targeting them (as there are a few walking on the street that were ignored and one questioned and let go) but the "why" isn't clear which is a hot topic atm
Manchester police brutality? Cops beat suspect rioters - YouTube
tee-tea
08-12-2011, 10:30 PM
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpq4f62LP21qj8ii9o1_500.jpg
LiquidTurbo
08-12-2011, 11:00 PM
^ I'm sure some other idiot posted the same thing on a telephone pole during World War 1, and again in World War 2.
TheKingdom2000
08-14-2011, 01:06 PM
I think it's because 2012 is supposed to be the end of the world...
So it's more 'relevant' now?
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Vale46Rossi
08-14-2011, 09:16 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpq9giw2SK1qc3wjlo1_500.png
London Olympic's new logo!
AlphaKappa
08-14-2011, 09:22 PM
first glimpse of that guy looked like eminem to me in his younger days
Death2Theft
08-14-2011, 10:23 PM
Imagine what the crowd would do to poor kate if they got ahold of her lol. Bet she's wearing a chastity belt when she goes out.
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