[dlo]

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[ime2006]

Totally, not for gaming......................................

If you want to have a decent Gaming PC. $500 bux ?? thats shitty.


Be for specific, what kinda game do you wanna run smoothly ??

[dlo]

Well I just want a comp that will be decent for gaming. Not too crappy, not too extreme.

[SkinnyPupp]

Get one with an AMD A8 3850 CPU. It is capable of playing games on a console-like quality level, and should be able to get one for your price.

Or something with a graphics card that is at LEAST a 5570. Like this one (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227314).

[roastpuff]

The ATI Radeon 4200 is total balls. It sucks. Find another PC.

And why not a custom-built PC?

[dlo]

Hows this?

HP Pavilion Intel Core i5-2300 Processor Desktop Computer (P6709C) - English : Desktop Computers - Future Shop (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-intel-core-i5-2300-processor-desktop-computer-p6709c-english-p6709c/10169445.aspx?path=c4bc080c9d710d09bf1f593b868444d 6en02)

[SkinnyPupp]

That won't play games at all.

Do you really have a hard on for Future Shop or something?

[roastpuff]

Dell XPS 8300 Media Desktop - Reviews, Specifications & More | Dell Canada (http://www.dell.com/ca/p/xps-8300/pd?oc=dxps8300_fs_chx8af2&model_id=xps-8300)

Try this.

[dlo]

That won't play games at all.

Do you really have a hard on for Future Shop or something?

LOL well I'm planning to buy a comp at future shop/bestbuy...
The max I'm willing to spend is $700-800ish. Can someone help me out?

Im not looking for a HARDCORE gaming computer.. just a decent one

[Pocakj]

Memory Express Computer Products Inc. - Canada's Source for Computers, Laptops, Monitors & more... (http://www.memoryexpress.com)

Check out their website, and visit the store. The staff might be able to help you piece something together that's within budget, and who knows maybe you'll learn something for yourself :)


-- Edit
and $800 can definitely get you something that can run games at a decent level

[SkinnyPupp]

LOL well I'm planning to buy a comp at future shop/bestbuy...
The max I'm willing to spend is $700-800ish. Can someone help me out?

Im not looking for a HARDCORE gaming computer.. just a decent one

Here's some advice: Don't.

You won't get a decent gaming computer there. I looked at their lowest spec "gaming system" and it didn't even have a fucking video card, just integrated Intel.

[ime2006]

LOL well I'm planning to buy a comp at future shop/bestbuy...
The max I'm willing to spend is $700-800ish. Can someone help me out?

Im not looking for a HARDCORE gaming computer.. just a decent one



You haven't told us ~ What kinda game do you wanna run on this rig !?!?!?

For example, If you wanna run Crysis 2, the witcher 2, MW3, or BF3...etc.

Then, u need probably at 900~1000 bux to run them decently (Maybe at lowest setting.....).


or You just wanna run SC2, MW2, BF2 ...700 bux PC will be good enough.

Depends on the Game, the system requirement is totally Differentttttt......

You got my point ? :lol

[DinhNg]

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[PhilosophyMajor]

You haven't told us ~ What kinda game do you wanna run on this rig !?!?!?

For example, If you wanna run Crysis 2, the witcher 2, MW3, or BF3...etc.

Then, u need probably at 900~1000 bux to run them decently (Maybe at lowest setting.....).


or You just wanna run SC2, MW2, BF2 ...700 bux PC will be good enough.

Depends on the Game, the system requirement is totally Differentttttt......

You got my point ? :lol

This is over-exaggerated. I spent $450 on my PC and I can run SC2 with everything on ultra.

[PornMaster]

Ive spent around 600 and I can run all my games on MAX
fuck fs lol

this is not including monitor speakers keyboard mouse though

[ime2006]

This is over-exaggerated. I spent $450 on my PC and I can run SC2 with everything on ultra.

well, sure
try with 4v4 with full units.

Also, will you be able to play any future games ? Low setting maybe ?

So, you would spend 500~600 to play some current games. And after a yr, your system is totally out dated.

And lets see what spec PC u have got there. for only 450.

[b0unce. [?]]

problem with the ones you listed is they don't come with video cards lol. you're never going to run anything with onboard graphics besides flash games or minesweeper.
also bb/fs always racks up their prices on premade desktops. pos towers they sell for $500 would probably cost you $200 to build yourself. i'm sure they increase the price probably cause of labor + mark up at fs. if you're budget is under $800 (assuming you dont need to buy a monitor, keyboard, mouse and other accessories), you can build a pretty monster computer that would run most of the games you're interested in.
most of the computers at fs and bb usually are tailored towards the everyday email checking-web browsing-facebooking-youtubing people who don't require a lot out of their computer.

lol i just realized while browsing through bb's website, they have a 'gaming section' under their desktop computers area. maybe you'll find something there you like.

[twitchyzero]

buying pc from futureshop/estbuy with the purpose of gaming = fail
if you can spend up to $700...google some gaming builds around that price...buy the parts from ncix and for another $50 get them to assemble it if you dont know how/lazy.

done...it can probably hold off for 2-3 years instead of the futureshop comp that will have trouble running games from 2007

[BrRsn]

If you have to buy something premade, buy it off amazon.com, ship it to point roberts, and pick it up.

Or buy it from NCIX. You still get warranty (i think) and it won't be a bunch of generic shit
NCIX.com - Buy Consumer Desktops In Canada. (http://ncix.com/computers/)

Or get one made from memoryexpress.

Just pick the computer you want, and get them to add a video card. Done, its faster and looks cooler and has no extra software that all those POS manufacturers install, and has warranty.

Or you could buy a FS computer, but the only thing is their power supplies usually barely meet the computers requirements, so if you add a good video card its likely to draw a lot of power and cause instability in your PC, so you gotta get a new power supply too. If you do go for a futureshop computer, budget $150-$200 for a videocard and decent PS

[Purely]

Like others have said, avoid futureshop/bestbuy for desktops to to game. Even the NCIX/Memory Express pre-built computers aren't worth it imo. The best is to pick out your parts and build it yourself, or pay NCIX/ME to put it together. This way, if anything goes wrong you will know how to replace the part yourself. I think ME is free, and NCIX will probably do it if you buy everything from there. Also, DDR3 Ram is so cheap now.. you can get 4gb for like $25~.. while it was $100 last summer.

[PhilosophyMajor]

well, sure
try with 4v4 with full units.

Also, will you be able to play any future games ? Low setting maybe ?

So, you would spend 500~600 to play some current games. And after a yr, your system is totally out dated.

And lets see what spec PC u have got there. for only 450.

I built it specifically to play SC2 and Dota2. I'm not interested in playing BF3 or having a top of the line system. I play most of my games on 360/PS3. No idea if it does 4v4 with full units cause I don't play 4v4 but I've played UMS maps with tons of enemies and no lag at all.

Antec 300
Corsair 430W PSU
Core i3 2100
ASUS H61 Motherboard
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Radeon 4870

[Purely]

I built it specifically to play SC2 and Dota2. I'm not interested in playing BF3 or having a top of the line system. I play most of my games on 360/PS3. No idea if it does 4v4 with full units cause I don't play 4v4 but I've played UMS maps with tons of enemies and no lag at all.

Antec 300
Corsair 430W PSU
Core i3 2100
ASUS H61 Motherboard
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Radeon 4870

Can you play nexus wars where the map is full of units without lag?

[PhilosophyMajor]

Don't know what that is. The game I tried was Special Forces 2 (I think)

[Dragon-88]

Never buy any computer related hardware from bb/fs.. unless you want 1 year lasting notebook and desktops.. Let alone the horrible service provided.

[Ferra]

Gaming (mostly) depends on the graphic card MUCH MUCH more than the CPU...
I saved this link when I was putting together my last PC>>
GPU vs. CPU Upgrade: Extensive Tests : Test Subjects: Four Generations of Nvidia Chips (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-gpu-upgrade,1928.html)

http://media.bestofmicro.com/E/V/102919/original/chart_crysis_1920_hq.png

You can see how the CPUs make very little difference in performance....especially if you are running graphic intensive, high resolution games
*The test is a few yrs old, but the idea is the same...unless you are going with a very very high end video card, the CPU doesn't make a big difference in performance

problem with most pre-built desktop you find in bigbox store is that they all have low-mid range video card (even if you buy the expensive top of the line models, it will come w/ the fastest CPU, 12GB ram, SSD + HD..etc etc, but only a mid range video card)

[Mr.HappySilp]

700 to 800 with or without monitior?
Here is a nice little package from NCIX
NCIX Value Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core CPU & MSI P67A-C43 DDR3 Motherboard $339.99 CAD
NCIX.com - Buy NCIX Value Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core CPU & MSI P67A-C43 DDR3 Motherboard - Bundle Deals - 2500K & P67A-C43 - in Canada (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62550&vpn=2500K%20%26%20P67A-C43&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals)
Patriot Sector 5 PGV38G1333ELK 8GB DDR3 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL 9-9-9-24 1.65V Dual Channel Memory Kit $36.99 CAD
NCIX.com - Buy Patriot Sector 5 PGV38G1333ELK 8GB DDR3 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL 9-9-9-24 1.65V Dual Channel Memory Kit - Patriot - PGV38G1333ELK - in Canada (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54174&vpn=PGV38G1333ELK&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1300)
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan
80PLUS Power Supply $54.99 CAD
NCIX.com - Buy OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply - OCZ Technology - OCZ700MXSP - in Canada (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35456&vpn=OCZ700MXSP&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1300)
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 DirectCU II Fermi OC 850MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E Video Card $194.99 CAD
NCIX.com - Buy ASUS GeForce GTX 560 DirectCU II Fermi OC 850MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E Video Card - ASUS - ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 - in Canada (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61347&vpn=ENGTX560%20DCII%20OC%2F2DI%2F1GD5&manufacture=ASUS)
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive OEM $59.98 CAD
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Thermaltake V3 Black Edition ATX Mid Tower Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT Front USB Audio No PSU $39.99 CAD
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LG GH24LS70 24X SATA Lightscribe Internal DVD Writer Burner DVDRW Optical Drive Black OEM $21.15 CAD
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Total is around 750 + tax. That's a nice system you have. You can do some little upgrade here and there when you have the extra money like getting better or more RAM, get a better heatsink, more fans for the ase.........

[Mr.HappySilp]

You haven't told us ~ What kinda game do you wanna run on this rig !?!?!?

For example, If you wanna run Crysis 2, the witcher 2, MW3, or BF3...etc.

Then, u need probably at 900~1000 bux to run them decently (Maybe at lowest setting.....).


or You just wanna run SC2, MW2, BF2 ...700 bux PC will be good enough.

Depends on the Game, the system requirement is totally Differentttttt......

You got my point ? :lol
I play Watcher 2 and high settings with no issue and my pc cost me maybe like $800lish

[Ferra]

Is this computer good? I'm looking for a comp that's good/decent for gaming. With 6gb of ram, 3.10GHz, 4 processors, I'm bound to buy it; however, I need your thoughts on this before I buy it :D



HP Pavilion AMD Athlon II 645 Quad-Core Desktop Computer (P7-1010) : Desktop Computers - Future Shop (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-amd-athlon-ii-645-quad-core-desktop-computer-p7-1010-p7-1010/10172480.aspx?path=33d9f129d1e4b5f02e3a85d08a0da69 6en02)

Oh and I'm not wanting a custom built comp
I just looked at the link u posted......it has an integrated video card.... i guess it's okay if you wanna play the sims... :fuckthatshit:

[TheSalesman]

go to ncix, tell them your budget and what you want to do with it and they'll build you something better then what futureshop has for less money.

[CRS]

go to ncix, tell them your budget and what you want to do with it and they'll build you something better then what futureshop has for less money.

Or you can ask the RS gurus about building one...

Then go to pricebat.ca and other matching sites and get the best deal possible.

Either way, I would never buy a comp from FS/BB or any of the major sellers just because their set-ups are absolute garbage.

[Pocakj]

This is over-exaggerated. I spent $450 on my PC and I can run SC2 with everything on ultra.

Show me, I want a computer just like yours for that price.

[PhilosophyMajor]

Show me, I want a computer just like yours for that price.

try reading the thread

[ime2006]

I built it specifically to play SC2 and Dota2. I'm not interested in playing BF3 or having a top of the line system. I play most of my games on 360/PS3. No idea if it does 4v4 with full units cause I don't play 4v4 but I've played UMS maps with tons of enemies and no lag at all.

Antec 300
Corsair 430W PSU
Core i3 2100
ASUS H61 Motherboard
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Radeon 4870

Try multiplayer 4v4, even 3v3 with full units.
U probably cant even move.....

And I m pretty sure this system is ganna have hard time running new FPS games at High or ultra setting @ 1080P

[PhilosophyMajor]

Try multiplayer 4v4, even 3v3 with full units.
U probably cant even move.....

And I m pretty sure this system is ganna have hard time running new FPS games at High or ultra setting @ 1080P

are you just ignoring everything i write? i never said my system was gonna run everything. i just said it doesn't cost $700 to build a computer to play sc2. i have no interest in running new fps games. i don't care.

[ime2006]

are you just ignoring everything i write? i never said my system was gonna run everything. i just said it doesn't cost $700 to build a computer to play sc2. i have no interest in running new fps games. i don't care.

lol, even my E6700 oc'ed at 3.6ghz can play SC2 smoothly without max setting

But
what if the OP wants to play new FPS games ?

For real, there is no point posting here without what OP wants to play...

Dont you think !?

[PhilosophyMajor]

i dont think the OP even knows what he wants...

[Ferra]

Show me, I want a computer just like yours for that price.

Phenom X4 955 > $120
mobo > $80
500GB HD > $40
4GB Ram > $40
GTX 460 > $120 (NCIX has it for $95 after MIR)
Generic case + PSU > $50
Total $450 or less
ideally, you can save even more going with a slightly cheaper CPU and mobo.

I have a similar spec system and I can run sc2 at 1080p ultra, play 4v4 and FPS rarely goes under 30
I can also play bfbc2 at max setting (except max AA/AS) at good framerate

[dignatas]

successful troll is successful

[SkinnyPupp]

So nowwhen someone is stupid or ignorant, they were "just trolling"? Go internet!

[Phozy]

NCIX is the way to go. If you can find someone on RS or something who can build you one, even better. But generally the computers NCIX have are at a fair price. Don't bother going to Futureshop/bestbuy, they will only fail you, and take your money away

[Vansterdam]

hey guys what do you think of my build? budget is 1100 after taxes

the prices i listed is the cheapest i found when each part is on sale

still waiting for deal on mobo+cpu


Coolermaster Hyper 212 - 20$
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 - 45$
Fractal F3 case ( with cooler perhaps) - 100$
Corsair TX750 V2 750W - 90$
western digital black 1TB - 75$
samsung dvdrw - $20$
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II Fermi 830MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ - 220$

570 total

2600k i7 - 300$
+
might add this mobo for 105 Gigabyte Z68M-D2H mATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 HDMI DVI CrossFireX SATA3 Motherboard1 - 105$

975 before taxes

OR wait till i see the asus pro go on sale



NCIX Bundle Deal - Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Processor & ASUS P8Z68-V Pro Motherboard $551.16
PriceMatch $469.99

i5 2500K + Asus z68vpro: $349.99

[SkinnyPupp]

Wouldn't bother with the 2600K, get a 2500K instead.

Assuming you won't be overclocking (based on the motherboard choice) so no need for a 3rd party cooler

See if that extra budget savings can get you a better video card (not that your choice is bad, but you should always put as much into the video card as possible)

[trancehead]

i;d stay away from the WD black. couple of reviews say its loud as hell. if you want speed, go SSD. 128gb is the sweet spot.
otherwise, go for a WD green

[SkinnyPupp]

^^^ Do not listen

[Vansterdam]

I wanted to OC to 4.1 or 4.5
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

[SkinnyPupp]

For a moderate OC like that, you don't need a super high end board. I am currently testing the Gigabyte ga-z68ma-d2h-b3 and hitting 4.3 or so is as simple as hitting the "Turbo" button. But you will run into heat issues with the onboard components if you try to push the voltage to the CPU's limit to reach higher clock speeds. For the explanation as to why, wait for the review :)

[!MiKrofT]

^^^ Do not listen
At one point I had 4 WD Blacks in my PC. They are great drives with awesome warranty.