[twitchyzero]

i never recieved money from Paypal tranactions before..this is for a craigslist ad.

lets get some things out of the way..the guy doesn't have poor english so i'm not suspecting it's some Nigerian scam and he is willing to pay shipping.

I'm just curious how the dispute process works...ie if they guy bitches to paypal that my item wasn't how it was advertised when it was....forcing a chargeback on me etc.

[spideyv2]

tell him to stfu and eat a dick.

[FerrariEnzo]

thats why i like to deal with locals AND cash deals only.. that way they can inspect the goods.... you never know who might be the liar, buyer or seller...

[LiquidTurbo]

Don't do it.
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[LenovoTurbo]

Local cash only. If he files a charge back/dispute you lose your shit and lose your money.

[Nlkko]

I only use paypal for people with good rep on car forums only.

Never deal with anything but cash on craigslist. You don't want to deal with Paypal dispute. They're biased towards buyers. And he could have good English and still be a scammer.

[twitchyzero]

okay thanks for the quick replies.

should've just followed my instincts that this was too risky.

/thread

[parm104]

It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?
- why would someone local want to buy with paypal rather than cash?

Golden Rule - Craigslist = Cash Only

[.Dream.Time]

i actually sold my wow account through craigslist 3 years ago and he paid me through paypal for 1200 usd, but i guess it's probably hit or miss...

Less risky for an online item I guess since I could have stolen the account back at any point.

[dangonay]

Have some fun with him. Give him an e-mail of yours that's not tied to your PayPal account. Then watch as you receive a "fake" PayPal e-mail (but good version with PayPal logos and nice formatting) saying your funds have been deposited into your account, but won't be released until buyer receives the item.

What's really funny is they don't even check to see if your e-mail is a valid PayPal account or not - they just send the fake e-mail hoping you'll fall for it.

I get these all the time, and sometimes I like to fuck around with them and make them think they found another sucker.

[parm104]

Have some fun with him. Give him an e-mail of yours that's not tied to your PayPal account. Then watch as you receive a "fake" PayPal e-mail (but good version with PayPal logos and nice formatting) saying your funds have been deposited into your account, but won't be released until buyer receives the item.

What's really funny is they don't even check to see if your e-mail is a valid PayPal account or not - they just send the fake e-mail hoping you'll fall for it.

I get these all the time, and sometimes I like to fuck around with them and make them think they found another sucker.

That's exactly what I do. If someone emails me from "overseas" and says they want to buy my "item for sale" (notice they will never mention the EXACT item you are selling, it's always general and vague)...I tell them to first send me pictures of their daughter.

[hirevtuner]

i'm selling tires for my friend and posted it on c/l, this guy goes by the name of "Michael Smith" sends me an e-mail asking if the item is still available and what my paypal e-mail is so he can deposit the money.

I'm like WTF? gotta be a scam so I ignored and deleted the e-mail.

[gretzky]

very useful thread... learn somethin everyday

[mb_]

It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?
- why would someone local want to buy with paypal rather than cash?

Golden Rule - Craigslist = Cash Only

To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

[spideyv2]

To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

lmfao...swag

[CRS]

To add to that, only do local sales.

Some guy e-mailed me for my camera a few days ago.. told him I'm going to Nigeria in a few days so I'll personally deliver the camera to his son and he stopped replying lol

:lol

Someone e-mailed me saying that they just moved from Vancouver to Markham and that we could do it over ebay/western union if I provided either an ebay user name or I transferred money over to XXX account.

I e-mailed him that I have friends in Markham that can meet up with him and do the deal in person and even save him on shipping. No reply.

[MG1]

I had some woman wanting to buy one of my more expensive stamps from my collection I listed in Vancouver CL. I was asking 500 bucks for the item. She's from Toronto. I basically told her she either gets a friend from here to pay for it and pick it up locally or we go through a stamp dealer here in town. I was willing to pay the 10% service. She never replied. I should have at least asked for a nude pic of her, LOLOLOL. Knowing my luck, she's probably a cow.

[Vansterdam]

been dealing with craigslist for over 5+ years

never have and never will use paypal

its either CASH OR TRADE ONLY

[Mr.HappySilp]

Always deal with local cash only. If the amount is large might be a good idea to get a friend to go with you or have the buyer directly transfer the fund from his bank to your acct or have the bank issue a money order while you are there.

Sold my WoW account on E-bay for $1200 years ago. The buyer even selected no refund/dispute option. So I waited till I have the money on my CL account, transfer it too my bank acct, Close my bank acct and open a new one. I then give the guy my WoW ACCt info.

Lol the next day Paypal E-mail buyer file a dispute coz the acct that used to purchase my WoW acct was hack. I pretty much ingore it since on my paypal acct was my old address and my old cell#. Haven't heard from Paypal ever since.

[FishTaco]

It's a scam no matter what...

- why would someone out of town be looking at our local Vancouver craigslist ads?


I always look at vancouver craigslist and i live in kelowna. Vancouver has the most people which means alot of stuff for sale.

I even look at seattle/calgary/edmonton.

[SkinnyPupp]

Do it, it's totally legit

http://carlrules.com/images/trollface.png
I actually didn't want to post the trollface, but if you are dumb enough to believe that this is a legit buyer, you might be dumb enough to believe I wasn't just kidding ;)

[pizzaMR2]

the scam isn't that he'll complain that he didn't receive the item.

the scam is that the paypal account he's using was setup w/ a stolen credit card.

So when the real owner of the card makes a complaint, the credit card's bank will try to recover the money, thus, taking it out of your account until they can clear you of any wrong doing.


so my advice, walk away

[Happy]

#1 If he does a chargeback simply provide proof to paypal in an e-mail about how he recieved the right item etc and you will get your money back
#2 Never send the item until you get the money
#3 If you get him to send the $ as a gift, he can't charge back

I just bought a sunroof cassette for my bimmer through paypal from seattle for $200 <- no problems
cheapest one i could find in van was $600

Just because people try to find deals doesn't mean it's a scam
plus people who get scammed are retarded as fuck for falling for it when there's so many ways to prevent it

[twitchyzero]

^i'm assuming it was through a car forum where you could check out the guy's feedback?

I can't see how the seller can really prove he's innocent and it's so much easier siding with the buyer. I mean you could probably use a pics/video of a working product but only ship that same products with some parts missing etc.

[Nlkko]

There are deals out there but there are even more scams.

Even buying from car forums have a percentage risks. I've seen people buying from a guy with 100+ positive feedbacks and one day he did a group buy and just vanished.

Meet in person + cash = no risk. Except maybe you could get mugged. :D

[CRS]

There are deals out there but there are even more scams.

Even buying from car forums have a percentage risks. I've seen people buying from a guy with 100+ positive feedbacks and one day he did a group buy and just vanished.

Meet in person + cash = no risk. Except maybe you could get mugged. :D

That's fucked.

[mb_]

who even has 100+ feedbacks? lol

there will always be a risk no matter what but it's minimized if you do local + cash only and meet up in a public place and/or go with a friend

[jeedee]

who even has 100+ feedbacks? lol

there will always be a risk no matter what but it's minimized if you do local + cash only and meet up in a public place and/or go with a friend

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/6/6a/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[Anjew]

about paypal

STAY AWAY, especially if you're the seller

[mb_]

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/6/6a/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

:okay:

[spoon.ek9]

iono, i received money with paypal for a large sum. didn't have any issues at all.

[Benz_05TSX]

I just had a woman contact me about buying my torch and shipping it to London for his son. I remembered they had scams like this a while back, didn't know they are still doing it

[Oleophobic]

I ignore all emails asking me if my "item" is still available for sale and for how much when I have it listed on the damn ad.

[nosaj]

speaking of paypal...so i bought a used item from a seller in alberta through paypal, but he messed up on the shipping and didnt packaged it very well. When I received the item, the corners are chipped and he forgot to ship out the hardwares for the installation.

i have talked to the seller over the phone and email but hes just super slow and irresponsible on things - he said he would ship me back the hardware by last friday because he was going to go on vacation, and obviously he forgot (still trying to give him the benefit of doubt)..

i dont mind keeping the damaged product...but i would like some sort of refund back because of its condition and missing hardware, should i be filing a chargeback through paypal? like is there such option to choose on getting some amount of money back but not all??

sorry for the thread hijack...but i just needed some quick help while we are on this topic.

thanks in advance!

[jeedee]

^Was the item from eBay btw?

Also, on paypal if you go to the transaction, on the bottom of the page there's something like "Having problems with this transaction? Find a resolution within 45 days" and fill out the form from there.

[nosaj]

no, the item was purchased privately through another forum (thats why i apologized for thread hijack :P)...but i requested for a paypal transaction just in case something happens and here we are lol

and yes, i did see that section and it brings u to the charge back section iirc...thats why i wanted to see if im doing the right thing coz i dont really want the charge back to credit me back the full amount but instead just some.

thanks for the help! :)

[Nlkko]

Ship the damaged items back and file a dispute. There's no point nagging. Some sellers are like that: very attentive before the sales then no where to be seen if there're problems later on.

File the dispute before the 45 day period or you're SOL. Maybe he's trying to wait that 45-day out.

[MWR34]

only way to safely do it, is make an ebay listing, and have him buy it. then pay through paypal and ship to his confirmed address.

because even thou you are using Paypal, they do not cover Item sales outside of Ebay. (ebay and paypal is the same company, and it doesnt matter what you buy as a transaction it rarely is actually protected)

[MWR34]

i bought a car on CL with paypal LOCALLY. True story.

[nosaj]

Ship the damaged items back and file a dispute. There's no point nagging. Some sellers are like that: very attentive before the sales then no where to be seen if there're problems later on.

File the dispute before the 45 day period or you're SOL. Maybe he's trying to wait that 45-day out.

shipping might cost a bit and its pretty hard to find that spoiler...i will give him a bit more time to see if hes gonna get back to me and see how that goes i guess...thanks alot for the info tho!


only way to safely do it, is make an ebay listing, and have him buy it. then pay through paypal and ship to his confirmed address.

because even thou you are using Paypal, they do not cover Item sales outside of Ebay. (ebay and paypal is the same company, and it doesnt matter what you buy as a transaction it rarely is actually protected)

hmm interesting...thats a nice idea...thanks for the info!


ok i guess enough of me hijacking this thread...thanks alot for the help everyone :)

[cococly]

I have been selling phones on CL for a few years now. Every now and then I got some random email wanting me to ship to Africa, South America. They can make up a whole lots of reasons.

"My son/husband is conducting an scientific research in West Africa and I want to get him a Samsung Galaxy S2, etc.... "

I never deal with anyone who wouldn't pay me in CASH.