[Matsuda]

Frightening!

WEST VANCOUVER -- The victim of a road rage incident in West Vancouver on Saturday night says he is lucky to be alive after a man in a pickup truck drove into him and pinned him against his car.

Kam Aein Parast, 45, said he was driving with his wife through the intersection of Taylor Way and Marine Drive at 9:45 p.m. when he noticed the driver of a black Toyota pickup truck tailgating them and flashing his high beam headlights.

Aein Parast pulled over at a red light to allow the driver to pass, and the next thing he knew, the man -- described as a five-foot-five white male in his 30s -- was standing outside his car.

"The windows were open, and all of a sudden I felt someone punch my face," he said. "He kept trying to punch me more, for no reason."

Aein Parast stepped out of his car to defend himself, and the man ran back to his truck.

"The whole time he was screaming, cursing," he said. Aein Parast began to search for his phone, which he thought he dropped on the sidewalk on the passenger's side of the car.

As he stood outside his vehicle, the driver of the truck then suddenly accelerated into his car, pinning Aein Parast between the two vehicles.

"I just thought, I'm dying," he said. "He was squeezing me between the cars."

Aein Parast said the truck's tires were spinning and smoke was flying into the air. A window on his own vehicle shattered and the passenger's door and front bumper were damaged.

The driver of the truck sped off shortly after. Aein Parast was transported to Lion's Gate Hospital, where he was treated for serious injuries. He received 17 stitches to his shoulder and lower back, and most of his body is severely bruised, he said.

As police search for the suspect, Aein Parast says he's still trying to come to terms with what happened.

"I have no idea why I'm alive right now. I cannot believe . . . why these people should do this. I don't understand," he said.

"We're living in a society that is heaven compared to many others. I don't know why we shouldn't be thankful, and be friendly to each other."

Police say the truck is a model year between 2000 and 2007 and the license plate may have the number 114 in it. They do not know whether it is a B.C. license plate. The truck would have sustained damage to the passenger side of the vehicle.

Anyone who witnessed the incident or has information to help the investigation is asked to call the West Vancouver Police Department at 604 925-7300 and quote file #11-10497.


Read more: West Vancouver road rage victim thought he would die (http://www.vancouversun.com/West+Vancouver+road+rage+victim+thought+would/5290420/story.html#ixzz1VnY36IZh)

[racerman88]

damn, that is pretty severe

[shenmecar]

What. The. Fuck.

:fulloffuck:

[Mr.C]

Holy shit. Not much else to say, really. Keep your windows up, I guess? I mean, if it was me, if I saw the guy getting out of the car, first thing I'd do is gtfo.

[murd0c]

There has to be more of a story then he is telling. Either way thats really messed up

[Jsunu]

There has to be more of a story then he is telling. Either way thats really messed up

Thats what I think. Why would he physically get out of the car once the guy kept punching. That or why did it escalate that far?

[haha13]

holy shit, just like the scene in fast five :fulloffuck:

[Riddle]

Hmm I saw a black pickup truck tailgating and weaving through traffic yesterday on Hwy 91 on my way to the RS meet. Wonder if it's the same one.

[smaggs]

Damn. Drove by when this was happening and saw the cars pulled over, thought it was a crash but was driving so couldn't really see what happened. Saw a couple cops pull up very quickly from coming down Taylor way in my rear view then heard more sirens for a bit while i was at Park Royal

[bengy]

Wow, he didn't notice the guy get out of the car until he was getting punched? NO FUCKING WONDER! He was probably doing 40 clicks in the fucking left lane.

[GLOW]

a man in a pickup truck
...
the man -- described as a five-foot-five white male in his 30s


not surprised
:troll:

in all seriousness it's a shame things have to escalate to this. if everyone just showed a little courtesy on the road and be a little calmer, we could avoid situations like this.

but then again this is vancouver so that's asking too much

[Gh0stRider]

thats some scary shit man.

[Great68]

Stories like these are why I keep a 1 foot chunk of 750kcmil cable in my glovebox...

[Anjew]

i'm pretty sure that there is much more to it.... lots of people in vancouver do selfish/reckless moves all the time without even knowing it....

[taylor192]

i'm pretty sure that there is much more to it.... lots of people in vancouver do selfish/reckless moves all the time without even knowing it....

So what? that doesn't deserve being essentially run over. I get mad at these drivers all the time, and trust me I want to punch them in the face and run them over... yet I don't.

[drunkrussian]

damn coming out alive after being squished between a car and an accelarating truck? killer abs bro
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[StylinRed]

wait... so he had him pinned between the cars and was trying to crush him since the wheels were squealing and smoking

but this guy isn't dead??? what is he superman? twilight?

shouldnt have gotten out of the car

[Skyline350gt]

lol guy in truck probably took 4 scoops of jack3d. :troll:

[k3mps]

i just read this thread.
my dad just got home 1hr ago and he said some of his coworkers were complaining about an erratic driver in a dark blue truck.
they thought he was flee-ing an accident because the left side of the truck bed was damaged.
it was probably the same truck Riddle noted, because my dad and all his coworkers take the Alex Fraser Bridge

[unit]

captain picard was that you

[Nlkko]

So what? that doesn't deserve being essentially run over. I get mad at these drivers all the time, and trust me I want to punch them in the face and run them over... yet I don't.

Probably deserve the punches though. I doubt the "victim" is so innocent. There are so many dick drivers out there who think nobody would get to them so they pull all the shits they could think of to piss off people.

The way I see it, you don't get punched and then pinned in your own car for no reason.

[bloodmack]

Theres always 2 sides to a story.. unless the guy was already provoked from a previous incident with someone else the guy who got his ass kicked probably deserved it..

[taylor192]

Probably deserve the punches though. I doubt the "victim" is so innocent. There are so many dick drivers out there who think nobody would get to them so they pull all the shits they could think of to piss off people.

I hope you never step infront of me, cause I'm going to punch you in the face for getting in my way.

Shit happens, this is the wrong way to deal with it, and its sad people here think its deserved.

[vafanculo]

Better be some attempted murder charges laid if he's caught
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[Anjew]

So what? that doesn't deserve being essentially run over. I get mad at these drivers all the time, and trust me I want to punch them in the face and run them over... yet I don't.

oh, by no means do i condone violence, must have been my skeptic undertones of that victims reports.

I totally understand the frustrations people have because they know that the bad driver will continue their bad habits without any repercussions and eventually an accident with an innocent party.

violence is definitely the wrong way to go, the victim is probably now clueless than he ever is

[1exotic]

He was probably a left lane hoger. There has to be more to the story.
If he was a left lane hoger and was doing some stupid annoying shit to piss the driver off, I would say he deserved those punches... not getting hit by the car though.

[MindBomber]

It's times like this I'm glad I keep an 18''pipe wrench under my driver seat.

Seriously though, many drivers in Vancouver have severe and uncontrollable road rage. Just yesterday I had a black truck honking his horn and tail gating me because I was going 30k in a park zone; I did nothing to provoke the driver, I just obeyed the law and in the process forced him to do so as well. Clearly someone willing to ram someone with a truck is not in a logical state of mind, so I'll give the victim the benefit of the doubt that he didn't actively provoke the maniac.

[illicitstylz]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/did%20not%20read/grand/52564251did_not_read.gif

[Harvey Specter]

There has to be more of a story then he is telling. Either way thats really messed up

+1.

There's always two sides to the story.

[rriggi]

To add to the list of people saying what they carry for protection, this is why I carry a steering wheel club behind the seat.

But no, I'm not surprised this happened, this intersection is notorious for idiots. People will block the intersection in traffic by turning when there's no space then other people start coming head on and honking. They have signs saying no right turns on the red, yet people will honk and even swerve around and shove into traffic if they can.

Its also strange that this even happened, there is nearly 95% of the time a police car sitting on the sidewalk at the intersection or there will be a cop sitting next to the intersection in the parking lot. Police station is just down the road as well, and its amazing that nobody caught the pickup as it left either

[vafanculo]

+1.

There's always two sides to the story.

Actually, there's always 3 sides.

My guess is he showed the trucker the finger.
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[k3mps]

actually come to think of it...taylor and marine..isn't that a really busy intersection?
correct me if im wrong, because i have never driven that way at night.
there has to be at least a few people who witnessed it and watch / read the news, and call in to report any info.

and ya have something handy in case you get a confrontation. most of the drivers i know have been confronted some time in their lives by pricks.
my go to weapon is my steering wheel lock.

edit: interesting how this incident, as well as the incidents involving my dad and his co workers, Riddle and MindBomber all involved a black truck

[unit]

I hope you never step infront of me, cause I'm going to punch you in the face for getting in my way.

Shit happens, this is the wrong way to deal with it, and its sad people here think its deserved.

the guy pinning him and trying to run him over was not deserved, but trust me ive been in situations where people put me in REALLY dangerous spots on purpose (and for no reason but to be an asshole), where if you were with me and we pulled up next to them, you'd get out and shit kick them too!

once i was driving on the knight street bridge in the fast lane, doing about 60 around rush hour. 2 total rednecks in a truck wanted to merge left, knew i was there, just squeezed me out.... i had to slam the brakes after i realized they had no intention of backing off. later then went back to the slow lane to exit to marine drive, and they just both looked over and laughed about it. some guys definitely have it coming.

[Harvey Specter]

I wouldn't carry anything in my car that I can use a weapon. I don't feel like getting charged over a stupid road rage incident. Best thing to do is get the plate number and call 911.

[MarkyMark]

Plus you pull out a weapon who knows what the other person has to match it , don't forget they are the ones that can't control their anger.

[k3mps]

The weapon is strictly (in my case) for self defense. I have to right to feel safe in my own car.

It is NOT / NEVER will be used as way to tell someone to get away from me and my car.
The only time it will be used is if I am attacked.

Besides, I don't have anything that's sole purpose is to be a weapon. My steering wheel lock just so happens to be handy and strong.

[q0192837465]

That's why under no circumstances should you step out of your car (unless it's on fire or something), unless instructed by an officer. If he didn't stepped out, the worst would be a few dings or scratches on his car.

Having said that, why r ppl always in such a hurry? I drive on Hwy 1 between Garlardi and Boundary everyday. I do 90 on the slow lane (limit is 80) and everyone speeds pass me doing 120 or something, only to get caught by the traffic before 2nd narrow. Why drive so fast just to stop sooner? I never get it.

[bengy]

That's why under no circumstances should you step out of your car (unless it's on fire or something), unless instructed by an officer. If he didn't stepped out, the worst would be a few dings or scratches on his car.

Having said that, why r ppl always in such a hurry? I drive on Hwy 1 between Garlardi and Boundary everyday. I do 90 on the slow lane (limit is 80) and everyone speeds pass me doing 120 or something, only to get caught by the traffic before 2nd narrow. Why drive so fast just to stop sooner? I never get it.

Some roads just welcome that kind of speed. If I did the speed limit I'd be falling asleep at the wheel.

[tubbyboi]

Honestly, i highly doubt the guy just stepped out and punched him in the face, no one in the right mind would kick someones ass because he was hoggin the left at 40. The guy that got hit prob at least fingered him or something. And even if that isn't the case and the guy is actually innocent and didn't do anything.... its not considered road rage, that guy in the truck had anger problems in general.

[Death2Theft]

Like you are really dumb (antione dodson) For all those that say there is more to it..... if the people that triggered road rage knew what it was they were doing wrong....... they wouldn't be doing it in the first place. People dont intentionally drive 40km in the fast lane to piss other people off despite what you think.

[Death2Theft]

Why cops dont just sit there and issue tickets vs setting up elaborate speed traps is beyond me.
To add to the list of people saying what they carry for protection, this is why I carry a steering wheel club behind the seat.

But no, I'm not surprised this happened, this intersection is notorious for idiots. People will block the intersection in traffic by turning when there's no space then other people start coming head on and honking. They have signs saying no right turns on the red, yet people will honk and even swerve around and shove into traffic if they can.

Its also strange that this even happened, there is nearly 95% of the time a police car sitting on the sidewalk at the intersection or there will be a cop sitting next to the intersection in the parking lot. Police station is just down the road as well, and its amazing that nobody caught the pickup as it left either

[Marco911]

I drive following a very simple rule: Don't drive in a way that will impede the flow of others. I will drive in the left lane if there are vehicles in front of me blocking traffic, since I will speed up if the lane clears and nothing is gained for the person behind me if I were to let him pass. If the left lane is clear, pull to the right, if someone faster comes up behind you. If you're in a park zone and someone faster wants to pass, let them.

[Oleophobic]

I don't find the left lane issue to be a problem in the city. In fact, I think most drivers here are quite level headed and while in some instances (two drivers driving same speed for instance) some people may get quite impatient, only what 0.00001% give or take some 0's of the population actually rage to the point of hurting someone.

As mentioned above, people don't intentionally drive 40 in the left lane to piss people off. A lot of people think both lanes are equal due to the fact that it is not emphasized much at all in Roadsense (I can't speak for the pre-GLP days but I'm quite sure my dad's old book didn't make a big deal about how to use different lanes properly) so unless ICBC or the VPD come out with commercials, signs, whatever reminding (more like educating) people about lane hierarchy, people will remain ignorant.

[Death2Theft]

Unlike the states we dont have signs all over the place stating that the left lane is for passing. Nor did they teach that in driving school. If more cops would give people tickets for hogging the left lane ..... well that wont happen until they make it a passing lane only like the states.

[Noir]

So for people saying "2 sides" does it matter? I mean, what could the other side reasonably be that'll make this okay.

2 sides or not, crushing a guy in between 2 cars (attempted murder) is wayyy too out in the left field to pull the "2 side negation card."

[Geoc]

Why can't drivers ever admit to their own mistakes? I admit to mistakes when I drive, so why can't others?

If people actually accept the fact that they are not perfect drivers and are able to admit to mistakes and not act like a complete ape in these kind of situations, there would be less incidents like these.

Unless, I am the only imperfect driver on the road.

[El Dumbasso]

This is why I carry around an Asshole to English dictionary at all times to prevent confusion.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/dumbass/assholetoenglish.jpg

[Hurricane]

I have to laugh at all you girls saying "That's why I carry a bat/club/stick in/on the trunk/rear seat...etc."

First of all, you would never use it.."Oh yes I would!!" No, you wouldn't. And even if you did pull it out, you would probably get your ass kicked with it twice as bad as you would have without it.

If you actually would use it effectively, you wouldn't need to blab about it in an online forum to pump yourself up.

I am sure it makes you feel better/safer, but that's about it.

If you can't defend yourself with your own fists, a weapon is just going to piss off someone who can even more.

Unless your going to stab or shoot someone (which for a road rage incident is just as stupid as the suspect in the OP) you are just putting yourself in more danger, and likely at risk of prosecution.

I don't remember courts in Canada ruling that hitting an unarmed person with a metal bar to be self defense regardless of their actions.

Or did you think your London Drugs purchased Club was going to fend off a 4000lb truck which was pinning you against your own car?

There are some people on the road who do deserve this kind of treatment; I however don't have the remotest idea if the victim in the OP is one of them, so I will reserve judgement.

[AzNightmare]

There's just so many methods to avoid the situation from escalating,
especially if the guy is outside his vehicle yelling, while you are still inside your vehicle.
All you have to do is drive off and :lol

It would be stupid to step out of your car too with your bat/club/stick and be all tough.
Next thing you know, the guy pulls out a gun and shoots you.
Bet you didn't see that coming when you initially thought placing a "weapon" in your car was such a clever idea.\

The best thing you can do is just drive off.



Also note: it's just retarded to get so frustrated about someone going slow on a left lane if the right lane is open to pass.
Don't be so anal about fast lane vs slow lane. Take the lane that is fastest and weave and stop crying.

[2damaxmr2]

You guys are a bunch of pansies.

[StylinRed]

I have to laugh at all you girls saying "That's why I carry a bat/club/stick in/on the trunk/rear seat...etc."

First of all, you would never use it.."Oh yes I would!!" No, you wouldn't. And even if you did pull it out, you would probably get your ass kicked with it twice as bad as you would have without it.

If you actually would use it effectively, you wouldn't need to blab about it in an online forum to pump yourself up.

I am sure it makes you feel better/safer, but that's about it.

If you can't defend yourself with your own fists, a weapon is just going to piss off someone who can even more.

Unless your going to stab or shoot someone (which for a road rage incident is just as stupid as the suspect in the OP) you are just putting yourself in more danger, and likely at risk of prosecution.

I don't remember courts in Canada ruling that hitting an unarmed person with a metal bar to be self defense regardless of their actions.

Or did you think your London Drugs purchased Club was going to fend off a 4000lb truck which was pinning you against your own car?

There are some people on the road who do deserve this kind of treatment; I however don't have the remotest idea if the victim in the OP is one of them, so I will reserve judgement.
+1
was going to say the same thing

most people think a stick in the hand automatically makes them a ninja they dont realize that its going to get them hurt even more since they dont know how to use it

[Psykopathik]

You guys are a bunch of pansies.

next time you get a golf club in the head or stabbed, let us know how you feel.

[sonick]

I have to laugh at all you girls saying "That's why I carry a bat/club/stick in/on the trunk/rear seat...etc."

First of all, you would never use it.."Oh yes I would!!" No, you wouldn't. And even if you did pull it out, you would probably get your ass kicked with it twice as bad as you would have without it.

If you actually would use it effectively, you wouldn't need to blab about it in an online forum to pump yourself up.

I am sure it makes you feel better/safer, but that's about it.

If you can't defend yourself with your own fists, a weapon is just going to piss off someone who can even more.

Unless your going to stab or shoot someone (which for a road rage incident is just as stupid as the suspect in the OP) you are just putting yourself in more danger, and likely at risk of prosecution.

I don't remember courts in Canada ruling that hitting an unarmed person with a metal bar to be self defense regardless of their actions.

Or did you think your London Drugs purchased Club was going to fend off a 4000lb truck which was pinning you against your own car?

There are some people on the road who do deserve this kind of treatment; I however don't have the remotest idea if the victim in the OP is one of them, so I will reserve judgement.

+1, my ex's brother got into a fit of road rage with some big guy one time, apparently took out a pipe or something and went up to the guy, but the guy managed to take him down and pin him while authorities showed up, and had/has to go to court for assault charges LOL.

[unit]

Unlike the states we dont have signs all over the place stating that the left lane is for passing. Nor did they teach that in driving school. If more cops would give people tickets for hogging the left lane ..... well that wont happen until they make it a passing lane only like the states.

true, but another thing i hate is how people try to enforce the fast lane 'rule' in the city. it doesnt apply to the city! if im gonna turn left a few blocks up and theres other cars on the road, im sure as hell not gonna pull over for you and then get back into the left lane. even in the states, ive never seen one of those signs anywhere but on the highway.

[Oleophobic]

^
it's actually in the MVA which doesn't restrict this rule to only freeways

Driver on right
150 (1) The driver of a vehicle must confine the course of the vehicle to the right hand half of the roadway if the roadway is of sufficient width and it is practicable to do so, except

(a) when overtaking and passing a vehicle proceeding in the same direction,

(b) when the right hand half of the roadway is closed to traffic while under construction or repair,

(c) on a highway designated and marked by signs for one way traffic,

(d) if necessary when operating snow removing equipment, or

(e) if

(i) the movement of a vehicle, or combination of vehicles, is permitted by and is done in conformity with the terms of the oversize permit issued under the Commercial Transport Act, and

(ii) the width of a vehicle, or combination of vehicles, or the width of a load on the vehicle makes the operation of the vehicle or combination of vehicles on the right hand half of the roadway unsafe.

(2) The driver of a vehicle proceeding at less than normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing must drive the vehicle in the right hand lane then available for traffic, or as closely as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing a vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or when preparing for a left hand turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.


Motor Vehicle Act Section 150 (http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/LOC/freeside/--%20M%20--/Motor%20Vehicle%20Act%20RSBC%201996%20c.%20318/00_Act/96318_05.xml#section150)


While I personally always try to keep up with traffic if I'm in the left lane in the city, I don't expect others to do the same. Enforcing this rule in the city would be a nightmare for traffic, not to mention it's hard as hell to prove even if a cop decides to give a 'failure to keep right' ticket.

[k3mps]

I have to laugh at all you girls saying "That's why I carry a bat/club/stick in/on the trunk/rear seat...etc."

First of all, you would never use it.."Oh yes I would!!" No, you wouldn't. And even if you did pull it out, you would probably get your ass kicked with it twice as bad as you would have without it.

If you actually would use it effectively, you wouldn't need to blab about it in an online forum to pump yourself up.

I am sure it makes you feel better/safer, but that's about it.

If you can't defend yourself with your own fists, a weapon is just going to piss off someone who can even more.

Unless your going to stab or shoot someone (which for a road rage incident is just as stupid as the suspect in the OP) you are just putting yourself in more danger, and likely at risk of prosecution.

I don't remember courts in Canada ruling that hitting an unarmed person with a metal bar to be self defense regardless of their actions.

Or did you think your London Drugs purchased Club was going to fend off a 4000lb truck which was pinning you against your own car?

There are some people on the road who do deserve this kind of treatment; I however don't have the remotest idea if the victim in the OP is one of them, so I will reserve judgement.

I agree with you to an extent, but like I said, I have the right to feel safe in my car.
Yes there are people who will simply take our there weapon if confronted, which is undoubtedly the wrong move.
But in some cases (myself for example), I do not have a purpose made weapon, simply a wheel lock that can be interpreted as a weapon.
I know you're thinking "well people like you will just bring it out and pretend to commit to using it".
But if you have a big guy repeatedly punching you through your car window and you're are buckled to your seat, there is no way you can fight back by punching. In situations like these AND ONLY would you need to force the guy back by using a weapon.

Same thing for guns. If you had a gun in your vehicle, you would not pull it out if you were confronted or yelled at, or if someone told you to "GET OUT OF THE CAR". Only if there was no way of fighting back or defending yourself with just your fists (hey you might be ganged up on), you would pull out your gun.

Yes you are right in saying many people would not ACTUALLY use their weapons, but in the rare situation where it's the ONLY way to defend yourself (dropped keys, cant get to ignition, etc), why wouldn't you?

[CP.AR]

That's why I keep the inception soundtrack in the car. with a surprise Nyan Cat thrown in. this is designed to confused the fuck out of everyone I confront

[highfive]

That's why under no circumstances should you step out of your car (unless it's on fire or something), unless instructed by an officer. If he didn't stepped out, the worst would be a few dings or scratches on his car.


I remembered a few years ago when there were ppl pretending to be undercovered cops who pulled ppl over to steal their cars. Then I remember reading a police statement where they say everyone has the right to stay within their cars or something or at least when a police officer pulls you over. You have to make sure they are real officers and that you don't have to pull your windows all the way down or something??

[vafanculo]

Yeah, use a weapon as a last resort. You would use your knife to fight off a bear, why not use a weapon against a psycho who could possibly be trying to end your life (in this case, pin you against 2 cars).

But it's threads like these that just reinforce gtfo, don't think your gonna get out and pull a Steven segal.
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[Hurricane]

But if you have a big guy repeatedly punching you through your car window and you're are buckled to your seat, there is no way you can fight back by punching. In situations like these AND ONLY would you need to force the guy back by using a weapon.

Yeah, use a weapon as a last resort. You would use your knife to fight off a bear, why not use a weapon against a psycho who could possibly be trying to end your life (in this case, pin you against 2 cars).

You guys don't seem to understand what is being said; thankfully you don't seem to have been in a fuct up situation like this before. But I thought this stuff was common sense.

If you are being punched through the car window by an angry person, are you going to tell him to wait a minute while you undo your seat-belt, turn around and retrieve your club from the back seat, magically find some kind of angle with leverage to swing your club from inside the car, out through the small window opening, somehow missing his flailing limbs completely, only to connect to the side of his head and have him magically fall to the ground unconsciously while the nearby witness's record every event in detail to avoid your future prison sentence (community service here I guess but still a criminal record).

No; you are going to drop your hands to feel around for the weapon behind your seat (which for some reason can't be located when you really need it; guess all those practice pulls in the driveway didn't help) while your now undefended face gets rearranged even more so than before.

When he finally notices what you are doing because you have managed to get the club around to your lap area while barely conscious from all the blows. He completely loses it (you thought he had already? nope) and rips the bar out of your hands and proceeds to drag you out of the car by your neck, and now beat you to within inches of your life on the ground in front of your car.

The worst part? The metal bar with your prints all over it (and perhaps a matching key on your key chain) is lying next to the incident when the cops show up; and it becomes your word against his.

Good luck with that.

It almost sounds like I am speaking from experience, but I assure you although that story is 100% fiction, it's a hell of lot more probable than you going home with the girl like a comic book hero.

And to the person who said a golf club is a good weapon; you're an idiot. Those shafts will break over a forearm like a dime store chopstick.

[AzNightmare]

^:lol It sounds like you're speaking from common sense.

Unless your car is boxed in traffic at a red light, there is absolutely no reason to think
trying to find a weapon for defense is faster/easier than to just simply step on the
gas pedal.

Hell... it might even be to your advantage if you time it right and his arms still through
your window as you drive off.

And even if you were boxed in, rolling up your windows manually, or electronically
would be a smarter idea. At least that would stop the punches from coming in.

[Supafly]

.....nothing like having some punk coming up to your window talking smack and trying to punch you; then you grabbing his shirt, pulling his upper torso into ur car; then pointing a unloaded pistol from the guncase on the passenger seat to his head...

landed a court date with no charge.....would i do it again to see the kid's reaction again?....totally.

[MindBomber]

^how do you get a court date with no charge?

[CP.AR]

^ probably found his actions in self defense with no intention to cause harm (since the pistol was not loaded)

in turn, if he caused a single bruise to the kids' face, he would have been charged with assault

that's how fucked up our justice system is.

[ruthless]

.....nothing like having some punk coming up to your window talking smack and trying to punch you; then you grabbing his shirt, pulling his upper torso into ur car; then pointing a unloaded pistol from the guncase on the passenger seat to his head...

landed a court date with no charge.....would i do it again to see the kid's reaction again?....totally.

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[mos_skeeto]

I had a pissed off truck driver follow me for blocks. We ended up at a light and he was right behind me. I left space in front of me to pull right into an empty lane if he got out. He got out and I switched lanes and turned right at the light leaving him standing in the street. I was thinking at the time that plan A is to get away. I know that sounds chicken but the most he could have done was key or hit my car since my locks were on and my windows were up (unlike the fella in the news article). Plan B (if I was stuck) was to pull out my iPhone and video record whatever he does. That way I have video evidence if he does anything illegal. I'll fight if I have to but I think it usually works best to let angry drivers be.

[Great68]

I had a pissed off truck driver follow me for blocks. We ended up at a light and he was right behind me. I left space in front of me to pull right into an empty lane if he got out. He got out and I switched lanes and turned right at the light leaving him standing in the street.

That was pretty smart.

A few years ago one of my buddies who's a bit of an asshole prick (Drives a 5.0, go figure) decided he wouldn't be bothered to move over or slow down to let a guy merge onto the highway. The guy then countered by coming up on the fast lane, doing a brake check/swerve right in front of my buddy, literally inches away from a bad accident.

My buddy then followed this guy (Through a couple red lights) for half an hour ALL THE WAY HOME where the guy parked his car, got out, and stood beside it waiting for us.

Now there were three of us in the car, my buddy, his buddy and me. They're both ex-football players so think 6'2", and 6'4" and 265 and 285lbs.

This dude was about 5'8" and 170lbs soaking wet, and I think as soon as he saw us getting out the smell in the air turned funny. I've never heard someone so apologetic, the conversation went like this:

My buddy: "So can you please explain to me what you were thinking you were doing back on the highway?"
Guy: "Oh man I'm so sorry, I don't know, I don't know"
My buddy: "No really, there must have been a good reason to do what you did?"
Guy: "I don't know what I was thinking, I messed up, I really messed up"

And etc, etc...

Moral of the story: Don't play the "Who can is the bigger asshole" game on the road unless you're sure you can back it up. I wonder to this day if that guy ever pulled another stunt like that again.

[MWR34]

That was pretty smart.

A few years ago one of my buddies who's a bit of an asshole prick (Drives a 5.0, go figure) decided he wouldn't be bothered to move over or slow down to let a guy merge onto the highway. The guy then countered by coming up on the fast lane, doing a brake check/swerve right in front of my buddy, literally inches away from a bad accident.

My buddy then followed this guy (Through a couple red lights) for half an hour ALL THE WAY HOME where the guy parked his car, got out, and stood beside it waiting for us.

Now there were three of us in the car, my buddy, his buddy and me. They're both ex-football players so think 6'2", and 6'4" and 265 and 285lbs.

This dude was about 5'8" and 170lbs soaking wet, and I think as soon as he saw us getting out the smell in the air turned funny. I've never heard someone so apologetic, the conversation went like this:

My buddy: "So can you please explain to me what you were thinking you were doing back on the highway?"
Guy: "Oh man I'm so sorry, I don't know, I don't know"
My buddy: "No really, there must have been a good reason to do what you did?"
Guy: "I don't know what I was thinking, I messed up, I really messed up"

And etc, etc...

Moral of the story: Don't play the "Who can is the bigger asshole" game on the road unless you're sure you can back it up. I wonder to this day if that guy ever pulled another stunt like that again.

He does, and still will. Why? because you only did a Half Measure.

Breaking Bad Half Measures (Mike's speech) NAPISY PL - YouTube

TRUTH

[Nlkko]

That was pretty smart.

A few years ago one of my buddies who's a bit of an asshole prick (Drives a 5.0, go figure) decided he wouldn't be bothered to move over or slow down to let a guy merge onto the highway. The guy then countered by coming up on the fast lane, doing a brake check/swerve right in front of my buddy, literally inches away from a bad accident.

My buddy then followed this guy (Through a couple red lights) for half an hour ALL THE WAY HOME where the guy parked his car, got out, and stood beside it waiting for us.

Now there were three of us in the car, my buddy, his buddy and me. They're both ex-football players so think 6'2", and 6'4" and 265 and 285lbs.

This dude was about 5'8" and 170lbs soaking wet, and I think as soon as he saw us getting out the smell in the air turned funny. I've never heard someone so apologetic, the conversation went like this:

My buddy: "So can you please explain to me what you were thinking you were doing back on the highway?"
Guy: "Oh man I'm so sorry, I don't know, I don't know"
My buddy: "No really, there must have been a good reason to do what you did?"
Guy: "I don't know what I was thinking, I messed up, I really messed up"

And etc, etc...

Moral of the story: Don't play the "Who can is the bigger asshole" game on the road unless you're sure you can back it up. I wonder to this day if that guy ever pulled another stunt like that again.

Meh. He followed the guy and you didn't say anything?

I have a teenager in an e92 tailgated me because I wouldn't let him cut me off (the part from Pacific St West End merging to Burrard bridge, everyone was slowly inching up in line and he thought he could just come all the way up and cut the whole queue off). Later, I pulled over to drop off my gf to work, the guy pulled over too but stayed in the car. I just went on my way, didn't even give him a second look and that was that.

There's really no point wasting your time with low-life like those. Do they deserve some punches to knock some senses into them? Sure. Do they worth your time? No.

[2damaxmr2]

.....nothing like having some punk coming up to your window talking smack and trying to punch you; then you grabbing his shirt, pulling his upper torso into ur car; then pointing a unloaded pistol from the guncase on the passenger seat to his head...

landed a court date with no charge.....would i do it again to see the kid's reaction again?....totally.

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Clearly you had a good judge. Otherwise you would be in prison for up to 7 years. The only legal way is to use a short barrel pump action shotgun (But it has to be unloaded)

[Great68]

Meh. He followed the guy and you didn't say anything?



I was sitting in the back seat and was just as pissed off that we were almost wiped out at highway speed as my buddy was. This guy definately deserved a few words and instillment of a bit of fear.

[AzNightmare]

I had a pissed off truck driver follow me for blocks. We ended up at a light and he was right behind me. I left space in front of me to pull right into an empty lane if he got out. He got out and I switched lanes and turned right at the light leaving him standing in the street. I was thinking at the time that plan A is to get away. I know that sounds chicken but the most he could have done was key or hit my car since my locks were on and my windows were up (unlike the fella in the news article). Plan B (if I was stuck) was to pull out my iPhone and video record whatever he does. That way I have video evidence if he does anything illegal. I'll fight if I have to but I think it usually works best to let angry drivers be.

THIS is the winning post.
And this is what everyone with any common sense should do.



That was pretty smart.

A few years ago one of my buddies who's a bit of an asshole prick (Drives a 5.0, go figure) decided he wouldn't be bothered to move over or slow down to let a guy merge onto the highway. The guy then countered by coming up on the fast lane, doing a brake check/swerve right in front of my buddy, literally inches away from a bad accident.

My buddy then followed this guy (Through a couple red lights) for half an hour ALL THE WAY HOME where the guy parked his car, got out, and stood beside it waiting for us.

Now there were three of us in the car, my buddy, his buddy and me. They're both ex-football players so think 6'2", and 6'4" and 265 and 285lbs.

This dude was about 5'8" and 170lbs soaking wet, and I think as soon as he saw us getting out the smell in the air turned funny. I've never heard someone so apologetic, the conversation went like this:

My buddy: "So can you please explain to me what you were thinking you were doing back on the highway?"
Guy: "Oh man I'm so sorry, I don't know, I don't know"
My buddy: "No really, there must have been a good reason to do what you did?"
Guy: "I don't know what I was thinking, I messed up, I really messed up"

And etc, etc...

Moral of the story: Don't play the "Who can is the bigger asshole" game on the road unless you're sure you can back it up. I wonder to this day if that guy ever pulled another stunt like that again.

Cool "toughguy" Story, Bro.
But I find it funny when you admit that your friend is a bit of an asshole prick,
not letting drivers merge in, and then you make it sound like you guys were the "good guys" in the end.

Your friend and that other driver are both assholes that should just stay off the road.

Your moral of the story should simply be: Don't be a big asshole. Period.
You should be lucky he didn't end up calling a bunch of friends to his house waiting to jump you with his bigger ex-football friends.
Or maybe he had a gun on him. You don't know him. You don't know what he has. This scenario is just stupid meets stupid.

[Great68]

Don't be a big asshole. Period.
You should be lucky he didn't end up calling a bunch of friends to his house waiting to jump you with his bigger ex-football friends.
Or maybe he had a gun on him. You don't know him. You don't know what he has. This scenario is just stupid meets stupid.

In actuality no threats were made to this guy. If he had "friends waiting for us" so be it, it was a risk.

I always get a kick at the "They could have had a gun, then you'd be sorry!".
This is Vancouver, not Detroit and despite the recent gun violence the average joe does not carry a loaded gun in their car here.

I don't blame you if you piss your pants and have to run off like a little girl on confrontation, we stood up for ourselves.

[quasi]

I always get a kick at the "They could have had a gun, then you'd be sorry!".
This is Vancouver, not Detroit and despite the recent gun violence the average joe does not carry a loaded gun in their car here.



I agree most the time it's true but about 12 years ago I had a guy pull a gun on me over a road rage incident in Vancouver. Thankfully he didn't use it but it changed my whole thought process on how to handle those situations going forward. You really do never know.

[unit]

In actuality no threats were made to this guy. If he had "friends waiting for us" so be it, it was a risk.

I always get a kick at the "They could have had a gun, then you'd be sorry!".
This is Vancouver, not Detroit and despite the recent gun violence the average joe does not carry a loaded gun in their car here.

I don't blame you if you piss your pants and have to run off like a little girl on confrontation, we stood up for ourselves.

wow, way to 'stand up for yourselves' with 3 big guys in the car.

[Blinky]

Possibly a repost and definitely old, but a good read about road rage:

craigslistin parhaat: Road Rage (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/van/366721693.html)

[AzNightmare]

In actuality no threats were made to this guy. If he had "friends waiting for us" so be it, it was a risk.

I always get a kick at the "They could have had a gun, then you'd be sorry!".
This is Vancouver, not Detroit and despite the recent gun violence the average joe does not carry a loaded gun in their car here.

I don't blame you if you piss your pants and have to run off like a little girl on confrontation, we stood up for ourselves.

Chances are, they won't have a gun... but I was just making a point.

You could spin this story, that the other guy was trying to stand up for himself and retaliated
cause these "big goons" in their big car was driving like they own the highway and not showing any courtesy to cars merging in.

Avoiding confrontation is probably the smartest thing to do. It has nothing to do with running off like a little girl.
And having a car full of big men doesn't give people the right to be assholes still... whether they can back it up or not.

[Harvey Specter]

I believe some guy in Surrey got shot last year over a road rage incident, from what I remember it was around the Scott Road area and I think a white Acura was involved.

Most guys have egos and want to act macho, I've had my fair share of road rage incidents but nothing serious but I've had a friend who basically got into a brawl in the middle of Marine Drive a few years back and he got charged so like I said before raging isn't worth getting charged over and fucking your life over, best to leave your ego at the door and let the cops deal with it.

[taylor192]

I agree most the time it's true but about 12 years ago I had a guy pull a gun on me over a road rage incident in Vancouver. Thankfully he didn't use it but it changed my whole thought process on how to handle those situations going forward. You really do never know.

x2

In Quebec the car beside us will with wiggers pulled a gun just for fun. We just pulled up beside them at a red light, they rolled down the rear window and flashed the gun. We all ducked and ran the red light, meanwhile those guys probably got a good laugh for scaring the shit out of us... so you never know.

[Obsideon]

I still find it incredulous that the "victim" was pinned to his car with a 4 ton pick-up doing a burn-out (with enough torque power to bend METAL and shatter glass) roaring into his torso and he came away with only severe bruises? :fulloffuck: