[twitchyzero]

METRO VANCOUVER - A West Vancouver man who stabbed a friend to death outside the Hollyburn Country Club five years ago will return to law school at the University of British Columbia this fall while out on day parole.

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This month, the National Parole Board decided to extend Ansari's parole by another six months, noting he has been "accepted back to law school and will resume classes in September 2011."

Ansari completed his second year of law school between the time that he was charged with Goos' murder in May 2006 and the time of his trial in 2008.

Read more: Paroled West Vancouver killer goes to law school (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Paroled+West+Vancouver+killer+goes+school/5334156/story.html#ixzz1X8uo3VyD)




What do you guys think? Should schools be allowed to let convicts have a 2nd chance? Not sure if I'm reading the article properly or did he get accepted into law school after he was charged??

Just sounds kind of ironic that he's going to become a lawyer haha. Even if he graduates I'm not sure if the bar exams will pass people with criminal records.

[AutozamAZ-3]

yoU
Bring
Cash

besides, what does being a lawyer have to do with justice? your job is to defend anyone who will give you a job... even if you disagree with it

[vafanculo]

what a fucked up justice system. kid murders someone. 5 years later gets his parole extended to become a lawyer.

the creators of south park couldnt have come up with a better episode.

[TRDeol]

It will be hard for him to pass the BAR because they red flag anybody who has a criminal record. However, they do judge it based on how serious the crime was and how old you were when it was committed. Some people have tried for 20 years to gain acceptance to the BAR with an assault causing bodily harm and still continue to get rejected.

[asahai69]

a lawyer thats a crook. not too surprised

[twitchyzero]

a lawyer thats a crook. not too surprised

Bob Odenkirk?:troll:
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[achiam]

IIRC, the person in question was already a UBC Law student when the crime was committed, indicating he likely had no record before as I believe most professional program applications hold some sort of background check. A UBC official was interviewed on VS as saying that the school did not have the legislation nor right to actively monitor students' records, and this would explain why he is continuing in the program.

A number of scholarships however, are being retracted as the sponsors learned of the benefactor's crime. As well, he is unlikely to get any job or apply to the Bar with this spot on his record...

[FerrariEnzo]

well... if you think about it, a crook knows how a crook thinks... maybe he can be a serious threat to all that wants to oppose the law...

to be honest, i dont see why not... If he can bring this game and be a good lawyer, why not give him a second chance, maybe hes turned his life around

theres a lot more worse and fucked then letting a criminal get his law degree...

[wouwou]

well... if you think about it, a crook knows how a crook thinks... maybe he can be a serious threat to all that wants to oppose the law...

to be honest, i dont see why not... If he can bring this game and be a good lawyer, why not give him a second chance, maybe hes turned his life around

theres a lot more worse and fucked then letting a criminal get his law degree...

his fee will probably kill you though

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

education is a human right. can't take dem human rights away.

[Lomac]

It's also part of the whole rehabilitation thing. How can we expect someone to reintegrate into society if we prevent them from every single thing?
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[Gridlock]

It's also part of the whole rehabilitation thing. How can we expect someone to reintegrate into society if we prevent them from every single thing?

Thank you! The last thing we need is an US style system where your life is ruined for smoking pot.

The whole concept is, pay your debt to society.

No, this guy may not be able to pass the bar, but that doesn't prevent you from having a legal profession. There are lots of people that have gone to law school, but don't take the bar exam. It just means you can't represent clients in court, but you can work for companies in a legal capacity.

[elwell]

We are all human beings, why can't he deserve a second chance? He could of have change, or not at all but it still doesn't mean we treat the guy like he's a social outcast

[mc-si]

but 33 times...

[dinosaur]

education is a human right. can't take dem human rights away.

education is a privilege, not a right.

[dinosaur]

Thank you! The last thing we need is an US style system where your life is ruined for smoking pot.

The whole concept is, pay your debt to society.

No, this guy may not be able to pass the bar, but that doesn't prevent you from having a legal profession. There are lots of people that have gone to law school, but don't take the bar exam. It just means you can't represent clients in court, but you can work for companies in a legal capacity.

he didn't just "smoke pot", he fucking MURDERED someone.

his life should be ruined as there is no "debt to society" to pay off when you murder someone.

[MR_BIGGS]

Damn, he stabbed his "best friend" 33 times....apparently 10 times wasn't enough :seriously:

[Geoc]

We are all human beings, why can't he deserve a second chance? He could of have change, or not at all but it still doesn't mean we treat the guy like he's a social outcast

The victim didn't get a second chance.

[InvisibleSoul]

I don't understand the problem... why wouldn't you want ex-cons to get an education? It's a step in the right direction to not continue a life of crime...

[minoru_tanaka]

Well he's a sociopath.
Stabbed his friend so he wouldn't have to pay back money he owes the guy.
Knows how to lie convincingly.
Brother is associate of the UN gang.
Now we will train him to manipulate the law.
= Only good can come from this.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

education is a privilege, not a right.

No, actually, it's a right. If you meet the standards, you have the right to the education. You can't be turned down, unless they do not have the capacity to take you. That's the ONLY reason they can deny you if you meet all their other standards.

The standards (for post secondary) don't include criminal background checks. Only $ and grades and some other shit they might consider.

Lower forms of education are even more strict in terms of the right to having access. Primary/elementary, and secondary.

Lol one of my crim teachers got his degree in prison. He's obviously very left wing about this subject and all about rehabilitation and second chances.

U guys are all missing the point, he doesn't necessarily have to take the bar exam, or be a lawyer, or whatever. The point of school is to educate yourself. You guys obviously went to school for the wrong reasons. It's not what comes after school, its what you learn in school. The right to learn, to know stuff.

Before the internet there was no wiki and shit. You had to go to a liberary, school, or shadow someone to learn shit. Even prisons have liberaries.
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[nammerstar]

maybe he's going back to law school to learn the law and fu*k with the system just like mark walberg in that movie...i forgot the name...

[Psykopathik]

but 33 times...

very short, dull knife?

1 or 2 stabs = you're sane.

stab someone a whole fucking lot = mentally unstable and get out of jail fast or not even serve hard time.

[twitchyzero]

personally I don't think he should be allowed to pursue a profession after killing someone.

My entire perspective shifted when I found out he stabbed the man 33 times. Keep him locked up for life please.

Can you imagine working in a group project with him? :fullofwin:

[DC5-S]

Hope someone kills him when he's out
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[achiam]

well... if you think about it, a crook knows how a crook thinks... maybe he can be a serious threat to all that wants to oppose the law...

to be honest, i dont see why not... If he can bring this game and be a good lawyer, why not give him a second chance, maybe hes turned his life around

theres a lot more worse and fucked then letting a criminal get his law degree...

He really isn't a "clever" crook who methodically planned this murder.
He was a muscle building roid monkey who was gay, and worked at the door at various downtown clubs. Apparently he was furious with his friend and caught in a gay love triangle. The violent murder was done as a result of this. If you ask me, he used considerably less brain power to scheme this than the finance crooks on Wall Street so I'm not sure what worth he'd have as a lawyer.

[FerrariEnzo]

well.. i was not directing my statement to him, but in general..

I dont know this guy, i didnt bother to read his story but what I say was for the general ex-cons...


There are some people that killed someone and regretted so they turn their life around.. If he kills again, then I say he doesnt deserve a Third chance..

[twitchyzero]

He really isn't a "clever" crook who methodically planned this murder.
He was a muscle building roid monkey who was gay, and worked at the door at various downtown clubs. Apparently he was furious with his friend and caught in a gay love triangle. The violent murder was done as a result of this. If you ask me, he used considerably less brain power to scheme this than the finance crooks on Wall Street so I'm not sure what worth he'd have as a lawyer.

too much details..you sure you weren't in said love triangle?:hay:

[Marco911]

too much details..you sure you weren't in said love triangle?:hay:

They knew each other since Gr. 7 and it involved a loan / business deal gone bad. There is no love triangle. What shocked me most is that this guy is back to leading a semi-normal life after 2 years in prison. Sure this will chase him forever, but c'mon...2 years!?

[ilvtofu]

They knew each other since Gr. 7 and it involved a loan / business deal gone bad. There is no love triangle. What shocked me most is that this guy is back to leading a semi-normal life after 2 years in prison. Sure this will chase him forever, but c'mon...2 years!?

Are you implying that a longer sentence = better rehabilitation?
You sir, do not understand the purpose of the justice system

[dinosaur]

Sometimes I think that we put too much focus on sending people to jail for rehabilitation instead of punishment.

Yes, eventually criminals need to be rehabilitated as they will not be in jail forever. But, these people still need to be punished.

2 years in jail for murdering someone? I think its pretty fucking pathetic...

[Marco911]

Are you implying that a longer sentence = better rehabilitation?
You sir, do not understand the purpose of the justice system

You fail to understand that jail is also about punishment. If the "costs" of committing a crime are low, you'd expect more people to commit that crime.

[Girl]

Hmm 2 years for stabbing a man to death 33 times, so that works out to be 11 days in jail for every stab he inflicted on the dead guy...


What I find ironic is that he's going back to study law :P