[Mr.C]

:(

Plane crashes during takeoff in Russia, killing 36 – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/07/reports-plane-crashes-during-takeoff-in-russia-killing-36/?hpt=hp_t2)

Must have been one of those piece of shit Russian airplanes.

Edit: Yep, a Yak-42. All of them confirmed dead. How the hell can they keep these crappy planes still flying. Geez.

[urrh]

terrible news

[InvisibleSoul]

Wow, hockey players are going down in droves.

RIP

[eDy]

wow. very sad news

RIP

[InvisibleSoul]

There could be more familiar names... there were other former NHL players on the team, but it hasn't been confirmed yet whether they were in the plane...

Includes Ruslan Salei, Josef Vasicek, Karlis Skrastins, and Karel Rachunek.

[jpark]

sad summer for hockey..
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[InvisibleSoul]

Also the head coach was former NHL player Brad McCrimmon.

[InvisibleSoul]

Edit: Yep, a Yak-42. All of them confirmed dead. How the hell can they keep these crappy planes still flying. Geez.

Apparently there were a couple survivors, but in critical condition.

[Gh0stRider]

Wow RIP
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[Roach]

^ I read they are unlikely to survive.

Horrible horrible news.

Kev

[BaBiE_Bee]

RIP to all those on the plane.

I'm truly saddened by this news, my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families of the people who passed.

[spoon.ek9]

what in the world.......... that's absolutely terrible.

[dignatas]

live reports going on at sportsnet channel on TV. after reports, sydney crosby's press conference.

watch it now because it is LIVE! reported from ABC and CityTV so far..

[Tim Budong]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr5t4yXTUk1qgx6g9o1_500.jpg

[Fappin]

RIP

[Grandmaster TSE]

sad to hear so many awesome players go just like that

RIP to all

[Durrann]

RIP
sad sad news

[hotjoint]

RIP

[!Shuya80]

RIP

[shenmecar]

I heard this too on the radio this morning. sad news......

[k3mps]

What's going on this off season :okay:

Pavol Demitra Feature - YouTube

RIP

[JKam]

This is sad fucking news. I woke up to a text from TSN telling me this. I thought it was a joke.... RIP Lokomotiv team & #38

Forever a Canuck.

[124Y]

Terrible news :(

RIP

[Fcukedd]

What? NOOOOOOOOOOO :(

RIP

[hotshot1]

Holy shit, worst off-season ever.

RIP

[dyan]

Wow sad year
RIP
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[k3lv]

RIP. Changed my mood this morning when I read about it.

[sell_item_604]

RIP

[kluk]

RIP

[LSF22]

What the hell is going on... RIP to everyone on that plane :(

[dinosaur]

so tragic... :(

[jjson]

fuuuuuuuuuuuck :(

RIP

[DD//M3]

Wow, just wow...this has been the most tragic off-season in memory.

[XplicitLuder]

:okay::okay::okay:

[odotodoMAN]

RIP canadian Brad McCrimmon and others ...

[dlo]

RIP to all, such a tragedy... more blows to the NHL world

[1exotic]

holy fuck.. RIP

[JackAss]

RIP
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[NSX]

RIP

[Zheff]

RIP

[badgerx3]

terrible summer for all hockey fans...RIP

[chin3se604]

terrible news.. RIP

[maxx]

Must have been one of those piece of shit Russian airplanes.

Edit: Yep, a Yak-42. All of them confirmed dead. How the hell can they keep these crappy planes still flying. Geez.

you're an idiot. it was a business jet. 20+ years in service. they are used worldwide by different private charter companies.

[R&R]

RIP :(
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[7seven]

you're an idiot. it was a business jet. 20+ years in service. they are used worldwide by different private charter companies.

To be fair, the plane that crashed today and its airline was banned from flying in the European Union over safety standards concerns.


Doomed Lokomotiv Yaroslavl Plane Was Banned In Europe Due To Safety Concerns
The charter plane carrying almost the entire Lokomotiv Yaroslavl team took off in perfect weather this morning, had trouble gaining altitude, clipped a radar tower and crashed 1.5 miles from the airport. It's the exact same plane that had been banned two years ago by aviation authorities from flying to Europe because it did not meet any of the international standards for safety.

The Yakovlev Yak-42 was developed in the late 70s, the first Soviet aircraft to use modern turbofan engines. This specific jet, tail number RA-42433, first flew in 1993 and saw heavy service as a commercial airliner.

In 2009, the European Commission published a report on foreign carriers that did not meet standards. Included was RA-42433, previously operated by Tatarstan airlines.

On the basis of verified evidence of major safety deficiencies affecting flight operations detected on the part of the air carrier YAK Service certified by the competent authorities of the Russian Federation, the Commission launched a formal investigation of that air carrier on 15 July 2009...These aircraft were not equipped to perform international flights as per ICAO standards (not equipped with TAWS/E-GPWS) and their certificate of airworthiness had expired and had not been renewed.

The Russian Federation initially promised they would bring the aircraft up to date, but later decided against it. All planes owned by charter company YAK Service have been prohibited from flying to countries within the European community, which does not include Belarus, today's destination.

Preliminary legislation is currently making its way through labyrinthine Russian law that would bring the country's aviation standards up to the rest of the world's, in a "gradual reform." Currently Russia and the former Soviet States have the world's worst air safety record, with 13 times more incidents than the international average.
Doomed Lokomotiv Yaroslavl Plane Was Banned In Europe Due To Safety Concerns (http://deadspin.com/5838024/doomed-lokomotiv-yaroslavl-plane-was-banned-in-europe-due-to-safety-concerns)


Revelations of safety concerns with the the Yak-42 plane carrying the Lokomotiv hockey club that crashed Wednesday are raising some serious questions for Russian authorities and the KHL. According to some investigative work from Barry Petchesky at Deadspin, and Slava Malamud of Sport-Express, the plane was banned from flying to Europe two years ago for failing to meet international safety standards.

Petchesky on the banned plane:
In 2009, the European Commission published a report on foreign carriers that did not meet standards. Included was RA-42433, previously operated by Tatarstan airlines.

“On the basis of verified evidence of major safety deficiencies affecting flight operations detected on the part of the air carrier YAK Service certified by the competent authorities of the Russian Federation, the Commission launched a formal investigation of that air carrier on 15 July 2009…These aircraft were not equipped to perform international flights as per ICAO standards (not equipped with TAWS/E-GPWS) and their certificate of airworthiness had expired and had not been renewed.”

The Russian Federation initially promised they would bring the aircraft up to date, but later decided against it. All planes owned by charter company YAK Service have been prohibited from flying to countries within the European community, which does not include Belarus, today’s destination.

HOTH contributor and Good Point hockey editor John Matisz spoke with ex-NHLer Claude Lemieux on Wednesday morning, and the four-time Stanley Cup champion noted concerns from friends playing in Russia with regards to travel conditions in the KHL:

“I played against some these guys and got to know Brad McCrimmon a little bit throughout the years. It’s just devastating. [...] I have heard from players who have been playing in Russia in the last few years & they think the travel was difficult, the airplanes they were using were quite scary. It’s just really unfortunate.”

While we await a formal investigation into what caused Wednesday’s tragic crash, the pre-existing safety issues and comments from Lemieux certainly bring some weighty concerns to the forefront.
More to come as news is available…
Previous safety concerns raise serious questions on Russian flight | Houses of the Hockey | Blogs | theScore.com (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/09/07/previous-safety-concerns-raise-serious-questions-on-russian-flight/)

[fsy82]

Any equipment can be a huge hazard if it is not properly maintained.

[originalhypa]

Anything equipment can be a huge hazard if it is not properly maintained.

But oddly enough it seems to happen more in Russia than in North America...


“I played against some these guys and got to know Brad McCrimmon a little bit throughout the years. It’s just devastating. [...] I have heard from players who have been playing in Russia in the last few years & they think the travel was difficult, the airplanes they were using were quite scary. It’s just really unfortunate.”

Russia is a fucking joke, hands down.

[HonestTea]

RIP :(

[satek]

RIP

[alanp]

RIP

[fsy82]

But oddly enough it seems to happen more in Russia than in North America...



Russia is a fucking joke, hands down.

Well like i said if its not maintained then something like this can happen

[rsx]

RIP

Such a tragic event that could have been avoided.

[7seven]

Demitra's agent was just on team1040, saying that another client, Ladislav Nagy, who played in the KHL for a couple years, called to say that travel in Russia was scary, with the KHL teams often flying in old planes.

[figure.09]

rip

[teekaywok]

rip :( once a canuck, always a canuck

[LsquareD]

Very sad news... RIP :(

[JSALES]

RIP

[JD35]

heard about this earlier today, sad news

RIP

[palepilsenpin0y]

R.I.P. =[[[[[[[[[[[[[

[sp00n_oo7]

R.I.P.

[vyrospec]

RIP; sad year for the hockey world

[Hondaracer]

while they obviously do fly on older shit planes with poor maintenance, this morning Kyle Turris was on the team1040 and when Jason botchford was basically persisting on how bad the planes were and his experiances [seemingly he was covering Turris as he was flying around during the super series in Russia] Turris basically went out of his way to say he never felt in any danger and had confidence in the planes/pilots

Russia is a great place, sad they have such lax standards with basically everything

[tonyvu]

Shittt, thats horrible...

RIP

[fsy82]

while they obviously do fly on older shit planes with poor maintenance, this morning Kyle Turris was on the team1040 and when Jason botchford was basically persisting on how bad the planes were and his experiances [seemingly he was covering Turris as he was flying around during the super series in Russia] Turris basically went out of his way to say he never felt in any danger and had confidence in the planes/pilots

Russia is a great place, sad they have such lax standards with basically everything

Well that "lax" standards cost them 43 lives

[metal]

Poor-quality fuel blamed for Lokomotiv hockey team plane crash - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/asia-pacific/poor-quality-fuel-emerges-as-possible-cause-in-fatal-russian-jet-crash/article2157869/)


Poor-quality fuel blamed for Lokomotiv hockey team plane crash
The Yak-42 Russian jetliner that crashed Wednesday, killing 43 people, was relatively new, it didn’t appear to be overloaded and the plane’s captain had nearly 7,000 hours of flying experience.

Poor-quality fuel is now emerging as a possible reason the crew’s attempt to take off was undermined. Investigators will look at factors such as human error and engine failure as they probe the cause of the crash that wiped out most of the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl hockey team, deputy transport minister Valery Okulov told reporters Thursday.

However, one witness, a pilot, told Komsomolskaya Pravda he heard all the plane engines go silent moments before the crash.

This suggested a problem with the fuel rather than a mechanical problem striking all three rear-mounted jet engines at the same time, the pilot said.

That speculation was echoed in other Russia media outlets.

“Refuelling the plane with low-quality fuel is seen as a priority reason for the engine malfunction,” a source in the aviation industry told the state news agency RIA Novosti.

Mr. Okulov denied earlier reports that it took the plane too long to take off and gain altitude.

However, Arius Novick, the manager of Yaroslavl’s Tunoshna airport, told Russian news channel Life News that the plane struggled to gain the necessary speed for takeoff before it rolled to the left and crashed into the river nearby.

Some experts initially wondered if the plane’s failure to take off was caused by the plane being overloaded, but a Yak-42 can seat up to 120 passengers – nearly three times the number of people the charter flight carried when it crashed.

The victims included former NHL players such as Canadian head coach Brad McCrimmon, coach Alexander Karpovtsev and former players Pavol Demitra, Ruslan Salei, Karel Rachunek, Josef Vasicek and Karlis Skrastins.

The team’s goalie coach, Jorma Valtonen, was supposed to board the flight but was saved by a decision to leave him home to mentor the second-team netminders, Mr. Valtonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta Sanomat.

The jetliner was relatively new, having been built in 1993, according to the AeroTransport Databank. The charter operator that flew the team has been grounded by civil aviation regulators until Saturday, while an investigation is to begin. The Russian charter airline has been cited before for safety deficiencies.

In Minsk, where the plane was headed, Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko pulled on a hockey uniform Thursday as he led thousands of mourning fans. More than 10,000 hockey fans filed into the capital’s stadium clutching tickets to what should have been the season’s opening match between local Dinamo and the central Russian Lokomotiv team.

“The most frightening thing of all is that they were flying here, to us – to this wonderful arena, flying as our best friends,” Mr. Lukashenko said in a speech he delivered on ice skates from inside the rink. “These are our blood brothers.”

Mr. Lukashenko – once dubbed Europe’s last dictator by the United States – has attempted to repair his relations with Russia in recent times of economic crisis and often uses grand occasions to make political statements.

Russian hockey officials meanwhile announced plans to put together a new Lokomotiv team within days by assigning players from other top sides in the league.

“Everyone knows that this is the most important sport [in Yaroslavl],” said Russian hockey boss Vyacheslav Fetisov. “Lokomotiv simply must play again to commemorate the dead.”

The team’s arena had turned into shrine a day after the accident as thousands stacked up roses and team scarves in mourning.

“In Yaroslavl, a man has two things. A man has his children, and he has Lokomotiv,” said a man outside the arena, a team scarf wrapped around his neck.

With a report from Agence-France Presse

[!e.lo_]

damn... RIP.
Video: Gut-wrenching memorial for Yaroslavl Lokomotiv (http://www.theprovince.com/Video+wrenching+memorial+Yaroslavl+Lokomotiv/5377796/story.html#ooid=BsNGZzMjrdoT-1sEa1B1R_yREmjCa6Cg)

[Sentinel]

Lokomotiv won't play in KHL this season - NHL.com - News (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=588104&navid=DL|NHL|home)

Lokomotiv won't be participating this season. Doesn't this screw up the schedule for the rest of the league?

[Happy]

Lokomotiv won't play in KHL this season - NHL.com - News (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=588104&navid=DL|NHL|home)

Lokomotiv won't be participating this season. Doesn't this screw up the schedule for the rest of the league?

a whole team died, i think the schedule is the last thing on their minds
plus it's not like they can't rearrange it