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freesole
09-13-2011, 01:34 AM
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but given that someone is in the market for a vehicle and that they plan on leasing, which of these four would be the most appealing to you? Any reasons would be helpful as well :)
1. 2012 Audi A4 Quattro
2. 2012 Volkswagen Golf GTI
3. 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart
4. 2012 Subaru Impreza WRX
Not quite in the same categories and the A4 is the most expensive but any input would be helpful. Feel free to suggest others as well.
ShyGuy
09-13-2011, 01:42 AM
A4>GTI>WRX>Lancer
The cars are in totally different classes. If he wants good fit and finish with decent performance at a reasonable price, go with the GTI.
Culverin
09-13-2011, 03:16 AM
Getting the A4 puts you danger of getting a girl who's shallow.
That'll never happen if you drove a corolla.
Just saying...
Anyways, I'd do the GTI or the Subey.
freesole
09-13-2011, 04:00 AM
Getting the A4 puts you danger of getting a girl who's shallow.
That'll never happen if you drove a corolla.
Just saying...
Anyways, I'd do the GTI or the Subey.
Hahah fair point. I'd hope that I would have better judgment than to fall for that though :D
roastpuff
09-13-2011, 07:09 AM
A4 or GTI. The A4 because it includes free maintenance - for leasing that is pretty win.
Dragon-88
09-13-2011, 08:12 AM
I would suggest test driving them. Get a feel for the cars.. Then you will know.
jaemc
09-13-2011, 08:38 AM
I really like companies that pay attention to the interior of vehicles. My personal favourite here would probably be either the A4 or the GTI. With the AWD advantage over the GTI I would probably go with the A4.
VR6GTI
09-13-2011, 09:07 AM
A4 or wrx
Given the choice, I'd go A4 hands down. But like someone said above.. they're in totally different classes..
Z3guy
09-13-2011, 09:20 AM
Since you are leasing Vs buying, I would say get the A4....the cost diff vs others is probably +$100 to +$150.....but way more premium than the other vehicles considered. If you were buying I would say GTI due to fun factor and resale value.
donjalapeno
09-13-2011, 09:28 AM
A4>GTI>WRX>Lancer
gilly
09-13-2011, 09:32 AM
WRX or GTI
freakshow
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
I would get the A4
busdriverman
09-13-2011, 10:07 AM
like another member has said, test drive first. i personally think that the A4 and GTI has the best interiors. I would not consider the lancer as one of the top choices.
if you like to go snowboarding/skiing in the winter, consider the A4 or WRX.
Roach
09-13-2011, 10:25 AM
I currently have an STI 6spd and a GTI DSG. Have also driven a B8 A4 6spd.
It really depends on what your priorities are.
Subaru: Great AWD system and resale value. More spartan but durable interior. A very raw and enjoyable car to drive.
GTI: Great interior quality. Fit and finish is top notch. Feels more expensive than it is. I found it a bore to drive though. Especially with DSG. Had a few problems with it, not a car I'd own but rather just lease.
A4: Fantastic interior. Take's GTI's fit and finish and adds some nice tech. The car I drove had B&O stereo, navi, blind spot warning system etc. Pretty cool features. Clutch was easy to modulate but lacked feel. 2.0T feels burdened under the Quattro drivetrain IMO.
Three very different cars. Inevitably, I really enjoy driving, and hence why I am selling the GTI and bought the STI. Both cars are an extreme contrast to one another though. As someone mentioned, drive them and you will get a feel for what fits your desires better.
Kev
freesole
09-13-2011, 11:23 AM
Awesome, thanks a lot so far guys. I am leaning towards the A4 as well but the price per month is definitely about $150 higher than any of those other cars I mentioned. I know it is a different class altogether but I just wanted to consider all the options available really. Definitely intrigued by the GTI as well, the 2012 looks like it got a nice face lift :)
roastpuff
09-13-2011, 12:36 PM
Factor in the maintenance cost of the GTI, especially if you get a DSG version. DSG flush is not cheap.
bcrdukes
09-13-2011, 12:41 PM
Refer to my sig.
Shorn
09-13-2011, 01:14 PM
get a 3 series x drive if you want the awd. i agree with dukes on audi.. :)
freesole
09-13-2011, 01:21 PM
Refer to my sig.
Lol, what's with the hate for Audi's? Honestly I'm curious about this.
CP.AR
09-13-2011, 01:36 PM
Ask Mr. RCubed why he got rid of his A4 :troll:
otherwise, I'd get a Ralliart because I'm a mitsu fanboy like that
Z3guy
09-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Hey Freesole, I know leasing is very tempting because you get a better car than you could buy. In the longterm, leasing is a fancy word for renting. In the end you have minimal equity for the next ride and you are stuck with a monthly car pymt. Buy the facelifted GTI, make your monthly pymts and after 5yrs you will have some equity in your GTI (due to good resale) for a down pymt on your next toy..... or just keep driving it and enjoy no car pymt. Food for thought.
Shorn
09-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Lol, what's with the hate for Audi's? Honestly I'm curious about this.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/651575-porsches-no-attention-7.html#post7554984
read that..
and for op if i could only choose between those 4..
wrx, gti, ralliart, a4 in that order.
none of these cars are really what i'd want to drive because you included no rwd cars in there. after rwd i would go with awd.. but i hate lancer's/evo's and audi's so that's why they are last and wrx is first. gti is not bad but i really dislike FWD even if the interior is sexy and everything.
so from your list: wrx. but i would rather go with a rwd car. unless you really care about driving in the snow and all that jazz..
TIP: if you get a 3 series now you can get mad discounts because they are rolling out the new generation next year.
a4 has a great deal going on it right now!
http://www.notsostock.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/impreza-wide-droppedwlip2.jpg
:megusta:
parm104
09-13-2011, 06:03 PM
IF you're just leasing your car, get the Audi for sure. The Quattro is amazing during the winter and the finishing inside is superior to most cars.
The only reason why I'd tell you to avoid the Audi is because they have horrible re-sale value. People say maintenance is very expensive on these German cars, especially Audi's, but I haven't experienced that at all. I've had my Audi for 4 years (yes, I'm biased) and haven't had any MAJOR problems.
As far as the feeling of being under-powered, the car is already equipped with a small turbo, spend $500 on some performance software and you'll definitely feel a bigger kick from the car. You don't need to be faster than everyone else, but the chip will make your car more fun and responsive.
Apart from that, the choice is all yours.
Harvey Specter
09-13-2011, 06:09 PM
My 2010 Audi A5 has issues with burning oil and supposedly other A5's and A4's have the same issue. I basically have to top off the oil every month compare that with my BMW e92 which is the same year and I have yet to experience any issues. The A5 and even A4 are pretty cars, do they handle very well in the snow but I'll never own a Audi again.
parm104
09-13-2011, 06:49 PM
My 2010 Audi A5 has issues with burning oil and supposedly other A5's and A4's have the same issue. I basically have to top off the oil every month compare that with my BMW e92 which is the same year and I have yet to experience any issues. The A5 and even A4 are pretty cars, do they handle very well in the snow but I'll never own a Audi again.
That seems to be a defect for SURE. Would that problem not be covered under warranty? I would imagine Audi of Canada would recognize that a monthly oil change would be the result of some sort of defect in the vehicle...
2.0t's will always consume more oil than usual. normal for a high compression engine.
my m3 burns more oil than the other 6 cyliner bmw engines, of that time.
Harvey Specter
09-13-2011, 11:13 PM
That seems to be a defect for SURE. Would that problem not be covered under warranty? I would imagine Audi of Canada would recognize that a monthly oil change would be the result of some sort of defect in the vehicle...
It is documented but I was told it was an issue with the 2.0t engines and that Audi is looking into the matter. My brother in law has an A5 as well and he's also had issues with the oil.
ShyGuy
09-13-2011, 11:25 PM
Yup. All 2.0t's are known for burning oil more than normal.
What_the?
09-13-2011, 11:43 PM
I've leased a WRX before, and because resale value was so good, the lease costs are very low... however, the gas mileage was pretty bad and it had to be 91 octane which sucked...
After leasing that time, I decided to finance the next car because it's true, at the end of the lease you really don't have much at all... I know the argument about not paying for more than just the depreciation by leasing, but still, it felt a bit weird after a couple years to have nothing to trade in, etc.
freesole
09-14-2011, 01:59 AM
IF you're just leasing your car, get the Audi for sure. The Quattro is amazing during the winter and the finishing inside is superior to most cars.
The only reason why I'd tell you to avoid the Audi is because they have horrible re-sale value. People say maintenance is very expensive on these German cars, especially Audi's, but I haven't experienced that at all. I've had my Audi for 4 years (yes, I'm biased) and haven't had any MAJOR problems.
As far as the feeling of being under-powered, the car is already equipped with a small turbo, spend $500 on some performance software and you'll definitely feel a bigger kick from the car. You don't need to be faster than everyone else, but the chip will make your car more fun and responsive.
Apart from that, the choice is all yours.
Thanks for all the information guys! It seems that if I were to lease that the car of choice would probably be the A4 since I don't get to see so many of the troubles after the 100K mark. It is still expensive though for the Quattro Premium even with a lease but I will definitely test drive it to see if I enjoy it that much to take the dive.
I don't need the quickest drive but I just picked out some cars that I liked the looks for and wanted to know what other people's opinions are based on what they've read or tried before. I had a 2007 Accord before so I just wanted a bit of an upgrade from that going forward haha.
StylinRed
09-14-2011, 04:20 AM
A4 FTW
but if you're in that price range
have you considered the 2012 C-Class Coupe? gorgeous car imo
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