[kenvu]

just letting you know that the BB at $209,000 for sure it will hit around this week. If you come for 3-6 limit the wait time is 5 to 6 hours and 1-2 no limit around 4 hours.

Ken

[TheSalesman]

and how about 3/6NL?

[kenvu]

wait time for 3/6 NL maybe around 1 hours or less

[TheSalesman]

not bad.

Ken,
Are you Davids brother?

[StylinRed]

sorry i dont play poker, how does a player win that? Always hear ppl mention bad beats but im like :crazy2:
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[Shorn]

River rock is only $39,000.. :(

[Nvasion]

wow imagine 105k!

[kenvu]

lol yes im david's big brother and to win a bad beat your 2 cards need to beat Full house of A's over 10's or better. good luck

ken

[kenvu]

if bad beat hit lossing hand will get 105k and wining hand will get around 50k and table share about 8k each

[MindBomber]

^^Edit: beat me to the explination!

[PornMaster]

not exact.
There are admin fees and such totally 20%

Waiting for a table is FUCKING SHIT.
i waited for 4 hours and I called 2 hour advance and got there 5 minutes before the 2 hours ended

if your number 50 ishh thats 3-4 hours. anything over that is stupid

[Nvasion]

makes waiting at edge water for 45 minutes like nothing on weekends.

on a sidenote gino odjick is always at edgewater. cool guy to talk to

[PornMaster]

wait at edge?
the longest I had to wait was 5 minutes LOL

[BlackZRoadster]

Badbeat on playnow.com is like 480000

However it's minimum quads beat
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[quasi]

just letting you know that the BB at $209,000 for sure it will hit around this week. If you come for 3-6 limit the wait time is 5 to 6 hours and 1-2 no limit around 4 hours.

Ken

It might, it might it not. It hasn't hit in months and it's been busy 24/7 for at least the last 3 weeks and hasn't hit yet. Cascades hit 270 last time before going mind you they do have 4 less tables.

[jiffyfung]

kinda off topic but do you guys still have the 3/6 hi low omaha game?
the 5/5 plo game at edgewater is too crazy at times.

[kenvu]

It might, it might it not. It hasn't hit in months and it's been busy 24/7 for at least the last 3 weeks and hasn't hit yet. Cascades hit 270 last time before going mind you they do have 4 less tables.

We got 12 tables 2 tables for 3/6 nl 3 tables 3/6 limit and 7 tables 1/2 NL so the odd is greater. Last week badbeat hand been muck 4 times and 2 days ago pair of JJ bet 60, KK call then AA goes all in for 180 so JJ folded and KK called the flop comes J J A :( 188k gone.
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[kenvu]

kinda off topic but do you guys still have the 3/6 hi low omaha game?
the 5/5 plo game at edgewater is too crazy at times.

Last time I saw omaha was last year in nov :(
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[Laundry]

I thought boulevard was quad minimum for the losing hand...if not, its crazy it hasn't hit yet...

[kenvu]

I thought boulevard was quad minimum for the losing hand...if not, its crazy it hasn't hit yet...

lol if Quad or better then the badbeat going to be 500k +

[chipmunk604]

I thought boulevard was quad minimum for the losing hand...if not, its crazy it hasn't hit yet...

i think the minimum hand is aces full of jacks or higher must be beaten by quads or higher. both players must use both their hole cards. minimum pot $20

payout are as follows:
loser gets 50% of the bb jackpot
winner gets 25%
the remaining active players split the remaining 25%

[kenvu]

i think the minimum hand is aces full of jacks or higher must be beaten by quads or higher. both players must use both their hole cards. minimum pot $20

payout are as follows:
loser gets 50% of the bb jackpot
winner gets 25%
the remaining active players split the remaining 25%

it's Aces full of tens or higher.

[chipmunk604]

^ya i got mixed up; some other place was jacks. close enough haha

[HonestTea]

i think the minimum hand is aces full of jacks or higher must be beaten by quads or higher. both players must use both their hole cards. minimum pot $20

payout are as follows:
loser gets 50% of the bb jackpot
winner gets 25%
the remaining active players split the remaining 25%

Does the pot have to be $20 before a certain part?(like pre-flop/post flop etc etc)

[kenvu]

Does the pot have to be $20 before a certain part?(like pre-flop/post flop etc etc)

nope the pot need to be $20 at the end when it's up and over.

[BlackZRoadster]

595,200 on playnow.com

[Vale46Rossi]

It's just shoooting up like crazy -.-

[kenvu]

595,200 on playnow.com

on playnow.com you need Quad Jacks or better going to be hard to get :haha:

[HonestTea]

Ughh...120th on the list...how long of a wait is that? LOL

[fliptuner]

nope the pot need to be $20 at the end when it's up and over.

My friends were at RR when two guys went heads up at a 1/2 table. One guy raised UTG to $6, everyone folded, except his friend in the BB. They checked it down and would've hit the bad beat....ghey.

[dboy]

So how does it go up? Is it just constant like $1000 a day or what?

[quasi]

So how does it go up? Is it just constant like $1000 a day or what?

Every pot is raked for the BB, that rake is applied to the jackpot.

[TheSalesman]

Every pot is raked for the BB, that rake is applied to the jackpot.

Only a pot with $20 is raked.

[fliptuner]

I thought it was a percentage of the rake.

[chipmunk604]

no rake for preflop win. post flop: 1$ goes to the bad beat and the rake is 10% of the pot up to a maxium of 5$

with a bad beat this high, you know what that means. the next bad beat will start high as well. the next bad beat jackpot is constantly growing.

[kenvu]

No bad beat yet $211,288 1:38am thursday
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[HonestTea]

SICK

We ALMOST got it, 77 vs. 66 flop comes 6 6 7 turn 3, river 8

[kenvu]

SICK

We ALMOST got it, 77 vs. 66 flop comes 6 6 7 turn 3, river 8

Haha ya sick
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[Greenstoner]

SICK

We ALMOST got it, 77 vs. 66 flop comes 6 6 7 turn 3, river 8

i usually called it Sad beat in the casino

coz you dont win shit

[BlackZRoadster]

If u have the quad 6 u win the pot :troll:
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[InvisibleSoul]

If u have the quad 6 u win the pot :troll:
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Thanks for the pro-tip.

[kenvu]

Bad beat hit at 9:30pm at 214,270 aces full of queen over quads queen
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[taylorswift13]

Bad beat hit at 9:30pm at 214,270 aces full of queen over quads queen
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1/2 table?

[HonestTea]

Whats the bad beat sitting at now after the BBB?

[kenvu]

1/2 table?
hit on table 7 1/2 nl and now the next bad beat around 73k

[HonestTea]

DAMN, could've been me! I'd play on 1/2 NL :(

73k wow, its like 80k+ at starlight I think

[kenvu]

DAMN, could've been me! I'd play on 1/2 NL :(

73k wow, its like 80k+ at starlight I think

ya my bad it's 83k next bad beat at BLVD

[kenvu]

DAMN, could've been me! I'd play on 1/2 NL :(

73k wow, its like 80k+ at starlight I think

lol its the same table that miss quads 66 yesterday. :speechless:

[HonestTea]

FUCKKKKKKKKK LOL

:(

[Greenstoner]

Who is still here ? I just got here lol
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[Laundry]

Man the tips this week must've been big...

Now that the bad beat has gone off, I don't have to go and wait hours for a table...

[PornMaster]

Played at BLVD like 3 times, didn't like it.

before some of you say OHHH cuz you suck and lost your money. No 2 out of 3 I have won.
Its just the atmosphere, the staff aren't has nice or helpful. And the biggy its a long driveway especially during traffic hours.

[RiceIntegraRS]

so how much was the table share? like $6500+ for each player?

[kenvu]

Omg bad beat hit again in two days now bb at 23k
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[HonestTea]

WTF

What time did it hit?

[quasi]

Omg bad beat hit again in two days now bb at 23k
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Samething happened at Cascades. Didn't hit for months, hit 270K. It goes and then it goes two more times in two days.

[kenvu]

WTF

What time did it hit?

It hit today saterday 4pm
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[InvisibleSoul]

Law of averages?

[wesamess]

It hit today saterday 4pm
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20k for the loser. 10k for the winner.

[!Nhan]

Man the tips this week must've been big...

Now that the bad beat has gone off, I don't have to go and wait hours for a table...

you'd think that, but i remember when working at edgewater few years back one hit at 112k ish and there was less than 1000 tip in TOTAL. people can get pretty cheap when THAT much money is infront of them.

Omg bad beat hit again in two days now bb at 23k
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it's very common for then to come in waves when a big one hits

[quasi]

you'd think that, but i remember when working at edgewater few years back one hit at 112k ish and there was less than 1000 tip in TOTAL. people can get pretty cheap when THAT much money is infront of them.



it's very common for then to come in waves when a big one hits

The guy who won the big portion of Cascades 270K didn't tip anything. $135,000, he ordered drinks for the table and the total was $49.xx he gives the waitress $50 and doesn't tip anything for the BB.

[Greenstoner]

I wouldn't tip to be honest unless the dealer gets his own tip instead of sharing tips like the casinos in Canada.
Think about it, if the bb is at 630k the tip is probably 800k or more.
Player usually tip a dollar for every pot they won. No point tipping the bb dealer coz it's not like he gets everything. I don't mind tipping them under the table tho, as long as he is not afraid of getting fire
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[quasi]

I wouldn't tip to be honest unless the dealer gets his own tip instead of sharing tips like the casinos in Canada.
Think about it, if the bb is at 630k the tip is probably 800k or more.
Player usually tip a dollar for every pot they won.
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If thats your reason for not tipping I'm assuming you'd meet with the dealer outside of work and give him some money? :) BTW if I won a huge one I'd probably split the tip, I'd give part of it at the casino and I'd slip the other half to the dealer another time when he/she's not at work.

[Greenstoner]

^ lol I edited my post before I saw yours. Yea I don't mind tipping under table
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[Greenstoner]

I was a regular in GCC (boulevard) before. I go there every day except weekend and I did a calculation of my tip for 1 week just for fun and added up to be 172 dollars. I usually tip 1 per hands, it's heavy amount when you go there almost everyday, it sure adds up.
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[quasi]

It's probably a mute point anyway. I've played about 1200 hours of poker at the casino over the last year and I've only been in the poker room once when the bad beat hit and it wasn't my table. I'll probably never get so much as a table share. :)

[fliptuner]

I've tipped dealers outside before - makes the most sense to me. I still tip dealers accordingly but if I run good or I can tell the dealer really wants me to win, hell yeah. I'm not going to let my huge tip get split amongst other dealers. (both on poker and table games)

[Greenstoner]

It's probably a mute point anyway. I've played about 1200 hours of poker at the casino over the last year and I've only been in the poker room once when the bad beat hit and it wasn't my table. I'll probably never get so much as a table share. :)

Hahha 3 bb happened when I played in casino over the years and it sucked !! Especially I just moved to 3/6 from 1/2 10 mins prior my 1/2 table hit lol

O well, if I was on the table the outcome wouldn't be the same anywyas

With that said, I will tip whoever sit out the hand. I've seen people argue for not receiving money from the bb owner or calling him cheap for giving little money. I'm on the sit out player side in this case tho
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[kenvu]

The guy who won the big portion of Cascades 270K didn't tip anything. $135,000, he ordered drinks for the table and the total was $49.xx he gives the waitress $50 and doesn't tip anything for the BB.

the BB at Cascades was 232k and he tip the dealer $10 and he ask for all Cash so he can take it back to the US $9000 at a time.

[PornMaster]

thats the stupidest idea ever.
why didnt he open a bank account here and wire it to his bank lol

[fliptuner]

Bad beat is building up pretty good at Boulevard again. Anyone go this weekend?

[HonestTea]

I went. It's only at about 70k on Friday.

Last weekend was 170k-ish.

[fliptuner]

Ah ok. I didn't go this week and thought it would've been over 200k right now. Any idea when it hit?

[HonestTea]

Wednesday at like 6-8pm.

It was A-10 suited vs. something, AAA1010 over straight flush. It was approx 175k?

[fliptuner]

Cool, thanks.

At our game last night, my friend was telling me about a hand at a house game that was pretty interesting:

Board: 6s, 8s, 9s - 10s - Kh

One person has the 7s, bets the river and a strong player almost instantly ships it. Person with the 7s thinks for a long time, then calls. Result is pretty sick.

One person at our game said they could fold it, the rest said if he has it, you just gotta pay him off. What do you guys think? And say the stakes matter a lot.

[HonestTea]

The only hand that beats it, is Js/Qs no? I'd call if I had the 7s.

[fliptuner]

Just for argument's sake, what if you were down 8k for the month but up 12k for this session and the raiser has you covered? You're well aware of how the person plays and it's highly unlikely he would do this with As but of course anything's possible. You're into the pot for $1200 and if you fold, it's still a winning session and profitable month.

Do you make the same call?

[HonestTea]

This just gets trickier and trickier LOL if I was down 8k and up 12k, so that gives me a 4k profit from this session alone. $4000 - 1200 = 2800 profit.

I dunno that's tough.. *Looks to PornMaster* LOL

What limits are you guys playing? 3/6 or 5/10 NL?

[Slifer]

You guys are ballers, I can only afford to play 1/2 NL :okay:

[punkwax]

Just for argument's sake, what if you were down 8k for the month but up 12k for this session and the raiser has you covered? You're well aware of how the person plays and it's highly unlikely he would do this with As but of course anything's possible. You're into the pot for $1200 and if you fold, it's still a winning session and profitable month.

Do you make the same call?

Being up or down really has nothing to do with it.. I get the point, but if you have a straight flush and theres only 2 cards in the deck that can beat you, unless you'd have to re-mortgage the house, you call.

[fliptuner]

lol no, not even close. I play 1/2 maybe 2/5 if there's no table or I'm running good. Our house game is smaller but plays like 1/2 cause of the action - it's more for fun.

The example I posted was at a different game. Yeah, sure we play for fun but at the end of the day, we're there to win $$$. At a 1/2 game, if I'm more or less even for the month (how often I calculate) but up say $600 for the session (stack is $800), I make the call 99.9% and if I'm beat, I'm beat - can't play scared, right and the $200 session loss is whatever. If I'm playing for a living and the stakes are higher and it makes or breaks my month, it's probably 70/30 that I make the call.

[cctw]

Cool, thanks.

At our game last night, my friend was telling me about a hand at a house game that was pretty interesting:

Board: 6s, 8s, 9s - 10s - Kh

One person has the 7s, bets the river and a strong player almost instantly ships it. Person with the 7s thinks for a long time, then calls. Result is pretty sick.

One person at our game said they could fold it, the rest said if he has it, you just gotta pay him off. What do you guys think? And say the stakes matter a lot.

you would have to factor in a number of things, including what happened at the flop, the turn, who acts first as well as the player's playing style.

Give J/Q of spades was the only hand that could've beaten the 7s..
that means the strong player hit a flush on the flop..i tend to avoid having the hand play to the river and take down it before that..but that depends on the player..

[PornMaster]

Folding a straight flush? I dont think so, anyone saying they would make that fold is full of shit.
That situation is the 1% that is considered in the odds, its sick but it happens.

edit:

this is the only situation that you may consider folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqTjYnkIHIA

couple factors
he has played against daniel in a ton of hands
it is plausible that he has the 1 card that beats him.

[411ken]

you would have to factor in a number of things, including what happened at the flop, the turn, who acts first as well as the player's playing style.

Give J/Q of spades was the only hand that could've beaten the 7s..
that means the strong player hit a flush on the flop..i tend to avoid having the hand play to the river and take down it before that..but that depends on the player..

Agreed. It all depends for me as to how the hand went down.. just gotta go with the read and your gut feeling. But I don't think I could lay it down..

I wonder how much was in the pot.

[411ken]

Folding a straight flush? I dont think so, anyone saying they would make that fold is full of shit.
That situation is the 1% that is considered in the odds, its sick but it happens.

edit:

this is the only situation that you may consider folding
Antonio Esfandiari folds straight flush against Daniel Negreanu - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqTjYnkIHIA)

couple factors
he has played against daniel in a ton of hands
it is plausible that he has the 1 card that beats him.

For this situation, it would be an "easier" fold.
You are only gambling to split the pot... he took a stab at it.. got raised.. unless he was willing to gamble an extra 6k just to split the pot then it was an easier fold IMO.

Of course, it also depends on the size of the pot..

[fliptuner]

you would have to factor in a number of things, including what happened at the flop, the turn, who acts first as well as the player's playing style.

Give J/Q of spades was the only hand that could've beaten the 7s..
that means the strong player hit a flush on the flop..i tend to avoid having the hand play to the river and take down it before that..but that depends on the player..

If I remember the story correctly, it got checked to the river and the original bettor was out of position. A bet on the flop would've got called anyways (even with a bare As, probably), then hit the turn, so any bet in this case wouldn't really give any information since the Js, Qs already flopped the 3rd nuts. IMO the only way it's conceivable (1%) to fold is if it gets re-raised at least twice, with a third person in the hand (and obviously how snug the players are). That should weed out any bluff and give one person the As and possibly another with Js, Qs.

Either way, I probably take a second to think about it and make the call. If you're folding straight flushes, might as well quit.

[dicecube]

boulevard has a lot of regulars (tight nits), I feel Cascades has the most action

[cctw]

If I remember the story correctly, it got checked to the river and the original bettor was out of position. A bet on the flop would've got called anyways (even with a bare As, probably), then hit the turn, so any bet in this case wouldn't really give any information since the Js, Qs already flopped the 3rd nuts. IMO the only way it's conceivable (1%) to fold is if it gets re-raised at least twice, with a third person in the hand (and obviously how snug the players are). That should weed out any bluff and give one person the As and possibly another with Js, Qs.

Either way, I probably take a second to think about it and make the call. If you're folding straight flushes, might as well quit.

what did the guy end up having? (strong player)..
but question is who had the option to bet first?

reason is..being the J/Q guy (if he had that hand)..having 4 spades on the turn with the knowledge that you'd win already..
i would've bet 3/4 pot on the turn...just because there is no benefit in waiting till the river to bet..
1) if the guy has any spades worth calling ie 7, K or A..he would call and better would milk the pot more
2) if he has no spades / one spade that's pretty mediocre..guy would fold anyways since river wouldn't improve his hand to win..and pot is too small for you to take a gamble and having to trouble yourself on whether to call on the river if J/Q guy bets again..

waiting till the river to bet..for case 1, if he thinks the odds are right..would call but you'd end up making less money than if betting on the turn..
and all otherwise would fold and you'd end up only earning the minimum..

thus IMO at least, since the guy supposedly to be holding J/Q of spades did not bet on turn, he does not have that hand and guy with 7s should make the call regardless..

according to my logic anyways..

[PornMaster]

boulevard has a lot of regulars (tight nits), I feel Cascades has the most action

Haven't played at cascade ever
but blvd is the nittiest of the nits.
except a few exceptions.

Top 2 aggressive and action rooms are Edgewater and River rock

the regulars love action and if you give them action they will gladly play you.

When I was at blvd playing it was fun because the table was half regs from edge and the whole time we just ragged on how shitty blvd was lol.

[dicecube]

Edgewater was a softgame when the poker room was back in the old building. I remember I had a 20+ days win streak stacking ppl who couldn't fold tpgk. When it returned to the main building, competition rose. I think cuz ppl came back to play in the bigger room.
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[BlackZRoadster]

i'm a regular at Edgewater and i only stay on 1/2 NL there. I played 2/5 but didnt do good at it. I got my hands cracked more often on 2/5.

Vegas is easy to win, so many tourist.

[411ken]

i'm a regular at Edgewater and i only stay on 1/2 NL there. I played 2/5 but didnt do good at it. I got my hands cracked more often on 2/5.

Vegas is easy to win, so many tourist.

COOL STORY BRO :ilied:


Just kidding...

And I agree, Vegas is the best when it comes to Poker.. too many tourists.. and drunks.. = ACTION


Which casinos in Vegas have you played poker at and favorite? I enjoy the MGM

[BlackZRoadster]

^ i played at Aria and mandalay bay

i like aria b/c i played there everyday for a week and got to become like home there.

[dicecube]

Does pedro still play at edgewater every morning at 1/2?
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[BlackZRoadster]

^ yes and hes annoying haha

did you hear what happened to him? He flopped striaght flush, and the other guy had a set of Jacks. Pedro raised the guy and the other guy showed jacks and said "i'm not paying you off anything" (because he was pissed pedro doesnt ever play a hand except monsters)and he FOLDED. Turn comes a Jack, bad beat!!!! Pedro didnt play for a month afterwards i heard.

[cctw]

^doesn't make sense...

[dicecube]

Wow the rest of the table must have been choked

Example) KQss vs JJ
Flop is 910J spades
Pedro bets into the badbeat hand which he shouldn't
Villain folds set of J
Rabbit hunt turn another J
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[411ken]

This Pedro guy probably didn't play again for a month for being greedy and raising with a straigh flush.

I guess that's what happens when excitement gets to you when you flop a monster like that.

I also wonder how much Pedro bet to have the guy FOLD top set...It must have been overbet/all in kind of thing. It's because I don't htink I can lay down set of Js at that point without it being an overbet or just an all in from a "tight" player

[cctw]

Wow the rest of the table must have been choked

Example) KQss vs JJ
Flop is 910J spades
Pedro bets into the badbeat hand which he shouldn't
Villain folds set of J
Rabbit hunt turn another J
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ok i think i und what you mean know haha

[fliptuner]

Crazy hand at our house game last night:

All preflop

-BB raises big w/ JJ
-loosest player goes all in w/ KK
-I call w/ QQ (I have a moderately loose aggresive image)
-22 folds
-BB calls

Flop - J-Q-2 rainbow
Turn - 5 no flush draw
River - 7

What are the odds of 3 sets flopping?

[!Nhan]

i've dealt a flop that hits 3 sets. guy with smallest set rivers quads. pretty gross lol

[TheSalesman]

That was not flopping 3 sets. 22 folded.
Iv seen it 2 or 3 times where it was set over set over set. Pretty sick.
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[fliptuner]

Yes, but it still doesn't change the odds of 3 pocket pairs hitting the flop.

[TheSalesman]

But if every hand was played, the odds of everything greatly increases. How many times have you seen some idiot at the table say "damn I should have played my J2, I woulda flopped a boat".

Blvd doesn't seem so nitty to me. Iv been playing there for 2 weeks straight and only had 1 losing session even though I was getting aces cracked.
Running good :)
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[fliptuner]

Are you playing 1/2 or 2/5? I find the 1/2 tables there pretty tight.

[TheSalesman]

1/2 lately as iv found it to be pretty loose and profitable.
3/6NL is a good game too but I usually have to wait awhile and if I'm already playing 1/2 for a couple hours, I don't switch unless the table is terrible but I havnt found that lately. Even some of those old rocks are not bad to play against.
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[quasi]

I really dislike Blvd for cash games, cannot stand many of the regulars there. The times I've played there the game hasn't been very good either but to be fair I've probably only played cash game there maybe 10-12 times in the last two years. They do have some decent tournament though from time to time.

[HonestTea]

If you guys are wondering, the Bad Beat Jackpot should be around 120k now.

[InvisibleSoul]

Crazy hand at our house game last night:

All preflop

-BB raises big w/ JJ
-loosest player goes all in w/ KK
-I call w/ QQ (I have a moderately loose aggresive image)
-22 folds
-BB calls

Flop - J-Q-2 rainbow
Turn - 5 no flush draw
River - 7

What are the odds of 3 sets flopping?

It's pretty hard to calculate with so many variables.

If you narrow it down to having three players see the flop with pocket pairs, each person has roughly a 7.5 to 1 chance of hitting a set, so I think given this scenario, it happens once every 400+ times. But obviously most hands you're not going to even have three people with pocket pairs see the flop, so overall I'm sure it happens once in many, many thousands of hands played.

I know I've recanted this hand at some point, but I had a pretty similar one online many years back.

I had 77, and the flop came QJ7. Three of us went all-in. Second person had JJ, third person had QQ. Turn was a blank, and I hit my case 7 on the river for quads. LoL

[TheSalesman]

What's the bad beat now?
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[HonestTea]

Probably just under 140k if I had to guess. Haven't been there this week lol

[TheSalesman]

Nice. Hopefully it's still there when I get back from Vegas.
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