[SiRV]

Who do you guys think will win?

Ron Paul Booed

You don't really get to see it in this video, but Rick Santorum makes the nastiest face to Ron Paul as he's justifying the real reason to why America was attacked. It's scary to think that so many American's still believe they were attacked because of their values :fulloffuck:

[TheKingdom2000]

trump trump trump!

Just to see what he does
too bad he's not running

[SiRV]

Too bad there isn't an option to make the poll two parts:
1- who do you think will win?
2- who do you want to win?

I think either Obama or Rick Perry at this point... but I'm really rooting for Ron Paul

[1exotic]

RON PAUL 2012

just because.

[SkinnyPupp]

If America is not the stupidest country to have ever existed: Ron Paul

[MindBomber]

If America is not the stupidest country to have ever existed: Ron Paul

If?

They elected George W. Bush twice, enough said.

[EmperorIS]

i like ron paul .. but i think obama will win ..

ron paul wont get enough support to win the republican backing

[SiRV]

something about Perrys Mannerisms remind me a lot of GWB's, media is making him look like a rising star at the moment

[tool001]

Wish it would be Ron P. But not likely. He is too wise for most american ppl to understand.
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[Ch28]

Ron Paul would be the best out of all the choices but sadly Obama or Perry will win.

[Manic!]

Ron Paul can get a gallon of gas for a dime.





















































a silver dime. :fullofwin:

The guys an idiot.

[StylinRed]

i missed the part of the debate where he got some boos

but i read an article going 'OMG RON PAUL GOT BOOED OUT OF THE DEBATES PPL HATE HIM HAHAHA' and i was like "oh no really?"

then i watched the debate today and i was like :seriously: not a lot of ppl booed and they booed before he explained himself


anyway as has been said before whenever we bring up Ron Paul this time around im shocked @ how the Impartial Media has joined forces in blacklisting him

[Graeme S]

Ron Paul can get a gallon of gas for a dime.
a silver dime. :fullofwin:

The guy's an idiot.

America has always had its fundamentals in the market economy. Seeing as how previously currency was decided by the faith people had in each nation's economy, why not offer an alternative market-based resource standard?




If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Does it look like it ain't broke to you? The guy is not an idiot, the stuff that he says is actually very well thought out and interesting. He is a Republican only because what he says fits mostly into what they say they stand for. If Ron Paul were running here, I would vote for him.

[Manic!]

America has always had its fundamentals in the market economy. Seeing as how previously currency was decided by the faith people had in each nation's economy, why not offer an alternative market-based resource standard?




If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Does it look like it ain't broke to you? The guy is not an idiot, the stuff that he says is actually very well thought out and interesting. He is a Republican only because what he says fits mostly into what they say they stand for. If Ron Paul were running here, I would vote for him.

And you would lose your health care and if you had a a pre existing health condition you would be screwed. One of Ron Pauls good friend and a person that worked for him died of cancer leaving behind a 400k medical bill because he could not get health insurance because of a pre existing medical condition.

He also wants to get rid of Fema and the EPA.

Ron Paul?! - YouTube

[StylinRed]

^^ yes fireworks are on the same level of importance as guns and abortion etc etc and the state government is filled with morons so they can't make proper decisions lol

the "amazing" atheist is good for entertainment but that's as far as it goes

[Manic!]

^^ yes fireworks are on the same level of importance as guns and abortion etc etc and the state government is filled with morons so they can't make proper decisions lol

the "amazing" atheist is good for entertainment but that's as far as it goes

And fireworks laws are stupid in BC because it's left up to the city. In Nanaimo Fireworks are banned but 5 to 10 minutes outside of the city people can sell them on the side of the road. People bring them back and use them in town. The police and fire department don't have the man power to deal with it.


American states are full of morons. Look at George Bush, Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Body Jesse Ventura all elected state Governor.
Originally Posted by Guardian
Mississippi voters will be allowed to vote on an initiative that seeks to reverse abortion rights by redefining the term "person" to apply at the moment of conception.

The state's supreme court refused to block the amendment, which will now appear on the general election ballot on 8 November. A majority of the justices said they could not rule on whether measures were constitutional until voters of the legislature had had a chance to pass them.

Civil rights campaigners criticised the court ruling and described the measure as "harmful to women".

Nsombi Lambright, executive director of the ACLU of Mississippi said: "We're disappointed with the ruling. A measure will be on the ballot that will allow the government to dictate what is a private matter that's best decided by a woman and her family, within the context of her faith. Mississippi voters should reject this intrusive and dangerous measure."

Bear Atwood, legal director of the ACLU of Mississippi, said: "This initiative is extreme and could severely undermine women's access to birth control, in vitro fertilization and life-saving medical procedures."

Measure 26 seeks to alter the term person or persons to include "every human being from the moment of fertilisation, cloning or functional equivalent thereof".

It is part of a swing across conservative states, particularly in the south, towards legislating for life to begin at conception, thus undermining piecemeal Roe V Wade, the landmark US supreme court ruling that set out the right to abortion.

The initiative was challenged by a Mississippi citizen because it failed to comply with the state's official ballot initiative process which forbids making modifications to the Bill of Rights.

Cristen Hemmins, the plaintiff, said: "As a lifelong Mississippian, I am disappointed that this broad and intrusive measure has been allowed on the ballot. I call on all voters to vote 'no' on #26. The government should not be interfering with the personal and private health care decisions of Mississippi families."

But anti-abortion groups such as the American Family Association and Pro-Life Mississippi welcomed the judge's decision.

"Today we rejoice and celebrate this hard-won victory, but tomorrow we roll up our sleeves and return to work," Stephen Crampton, the attorney for the proponents told the Associated Press. "Our opponents are discouraged, but not yet ultimately defeated. They will be back, spreading fear, confusion, and dire 'sky-is-falling' warnings about this simple Amendment, and we must be ready to rebut their baseless charges and set the record straight."

The ruling follows that three months ago, when Rennie Gibbs, of Mississippi, because the first woman to be charged with murder following the stillbirth of her baby. Across the US, more and more prosecutions are being brought that seek to turn pregnant women into criminals.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think I posted this here already, or at least on my Facebook. But the thing I like about Ron Paul is that even though we disagree on some things (he is religious and anti-abortion), he does the right thing by letting THE CONSTITUTION rule the law. States are able to have their own laws, so if you don't like the laws where you live, you are free to pack up and move to a state better suited to your values. For instance, he is against the outright banning of things like gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, etc. Even though his church tells him it's wrong, he has a line of thinking that is more like mine - if it doesn't negatively affect other people, why should it be against the law?

I read through his platform on Wikipedia, and he absolutely seems like the right choice to run the US. I hope he is able to use teh intarnets to gather a lot of support, because old school media isn't going to be on his side.

[Manic!]

I think I posted this here already, or at least on my Facebook. But the thing I like about Ron Paul is that even though we disagree on some things (he is religious and anti-abortion), he does the right thing by letting THE CONSTITUTION rule the law. States are able to have their own laws, so if you don't like the laws where you live, you are free to pack up and move to a state better suited to your values. For instance, he is against the outright banning of things like gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, etc. Even though his church tells him it's wrong, he has a line of thinking that is more like mine - if it doesn't negatively affect other people, why should it be against the law?

I read through his platform on Wikipedia, and he absolutely seems like the right choice to run the US. I hope he is able to use teh intarnets to gather a lot of support, because old school media isn't going to be on his side.


Have you not heard of the Ron Paul army. Say anything bad about him and they will attack.

International organizations

Paul advocates withdrawing U.S. participation and funding from organizations he believes override American sovereignty, such as the United Nations, the International Criminal Court, the Law of the Sea Treaty, NATO, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Paul wrote of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

[It] not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.[263]

Voting Rights Act

In 2006, Paul joined 32 other members of Congress in opposing the renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, originally passed to remove barriers to voting participation for minorities.[262] Paul has indicated that he did not object to the voting rights clauses, but rather to restrictions placed on property rights by the bill.[263] He felt the federal interference mandated by the bill was costly and unjustified because the situation for minorities voting is much different than when the bill was passed 40 years ago. Many of Texas' Republican representatives voted against the bill, because they believe it specifically singles out some Southern states, including Texas, for federal Justice Department oversight that makes it difficult for localities to change the location of a polling place or other small acts without first receiving permission from the federal government.[264] The bill also mandated bilingual voting ballots upon request, and in a letter opposing the bill for this reason, 80 members of Congress including Paul objected to the costly implications of requiring bilingual ballots.[264] In one example cited in the letter, the members detailed how Los Angeles spent $2.1 million for the 2004 election to provide ballots in seven different languages and more than 2,000 translators, although one of the requirements of gaining United States citizenship is ability to read in English, and another California district spent $30,000 on translating ballots per election despite receiving only one request for Spanish documents in 16 years. The legislators also noted that printing in foreign languages increases the chances of ballot error, pointing out a specific example of erroneous translated ballots that had been used in Flushing, New York.[265]

[Harvey Specter]

Obama will pull it off. Republican field is weak and even though Obama's job approval is just under 50%, he's still a very likeable guy which is always important when running for President. Factor in his jobs bill which for his sake better create jobs and I think he has a good chance of getting re-elected.

Edit:

On the topic of Republicans....have you guys watched any of the debates? No candidate has wow'd me, it's like a circus show with a bunch of clowns that will say the most ludicrous thing just to get their poll numbers higher for the primary but out of all the clown it's basically down to Perry vs. Romney. Perry is prefect for the tea party crowd but he will never win the general election because his views on climate change, entitlement programs and immigration are way too out there for most independent voters. And Mitt isn't "conservative" enough for most Republicans to support him but I think in a general election he would do better with independent voters compared to Obama and I think Mitt would give Obama a run for his money.

Overall though, the Republican field is weak because most are waiting to get in for 2016 but I will say that out of all the candidates I don't really mind Huntsman. He's a pretty intelligent guy who's pretty liberal on social issues, he's dealt with the Chinese and has a grasp on dealing with foreign issues but I don't see him going far under the Republican party banner.

[StylinRed]

Have you not heard of the Ron Paul army. Say anything bad about him and they will attack.

International organizations

Paul advocates withdrawing U.S. participation and funding from organizations he believes override American sovereignty, such as the United Nations, the International Criminal Court, the Law of the Sea Treaty, NATO, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Paul wrote of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

[It] not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.[263]

Voting Rights Act

In 2006, Paul joined 32 other members of Congress in opposing the renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, originally passed to remove barriers to voting participation for minorities.[262] Paul has indicated that he did not object to the voting rights clauses, but rather to restrictions placed on property rights by the bill.[263] He felt the federal interference mandated by the bill was costly and unjustified because the situation for minorities voting is much different than when the bill was passed 40 years ago. Many of Texas' Republican representatives voted against the bill, because they believe it specifically singles out some Southern states, including Texas, for federal Justice Department oversight that makes it difficult for localities to change the location of a polling place or other small acts without first receiving permission from the federal government.[264] The bill also mandated bilingual voting ballots upon request, and in a letter opposing the bill for this reason, 80 members of Congress including Paul objected to the costly implications of requiring bilingual ballots.[264] In one example cited in the letter, the members detailed how Los Angeles spent $2.1 million for the 2004 election to provide ballots in seven different languages and more than 2,000 translators, although one of the requirements of gaining United States citizenship is ability to read in English, and another California district spent $30,000 on translating ballots per election despite receiving only one request for Spanish documents in 16 years. The legislators also noted that printing in foreign languages increases the chances of ballot error, pointing out a specific example of erroneous translated ballots that had been used in Flushing, New York.[265]

there was nothing wrong with Pauls reasoning in anything you posted there.

[Graeme S]

I don't agree with Ron Paul's specific reasoning in all cases, but as a general rule I like his attitude and stance. He's one of the few people who will fight to the death for his opinion, and will give it whenever he's asked; BUT when things go against him, he doesn't keep bitching and whining about how he could have made it better and how wrong it is that it's gone that way. He sucks it up, says "that's the law we chose and that's the law we get. If things change in the future, let's see how it goes." He is at times the most extreme and also the most reasonable and moderate.

[unit]

you guys are crazy if you voted ron paul. i would love to see him win but theres about 0 chance of that happening.

[taylor192]

i like ron paul .. but i think obama will win ..

ron paul wont get enough support to win the republican backing
^ This.

Ron Paul has no chance of winning the leadership race for either party, and no independent will ever win. :(

[Manic!]

http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2010/03/ron-paul-mlk-2.jpg

http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2010/03/ron-paul-blast-em.jpg

From Ron Pauls newsletter

FYI he lives in Lake Jackson Texas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPD832-gsw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdUqh3oJr0&feature=related

[trip]

want ron paul to win

who will win? obama

[taylor192]

Perry would be worse than Obama, yet Obama needs to go... so in short: the US is fucked.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Obama wins.

Who I would like to see become President - Kucinich. Much like Ron Paul, his party Ignores him. The US would also have the youngest/hottest First Lady ever - Elizabeth Kucinich who is 33 yrs old, tall, and a redhead.
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/24th+Annual+Rock+Roll+Hall+Fame+Induction+kgqVkL7A e3tl.jpg

[Harvey Specter]

Ron Paul has no chance in hell to become the President. His son had some potential but he's made some idiotic comments in his past which basically pissed away his presidential aspirations.

[Death2Theft]

Judging by how many people said Obama.... they really need to watch the obama deception on youtube.

[Death2Theft]

You wonder why they also manipulated his debate results when he got 50 something precent and the second guy got 18% yet the bar graph showed him almost equal with the 18% guy?
You think the media might be owned by a group of people that want the US to fail? You think they are going to keep saying he doesn't have a chance so people will vote for mr.rockstar perry?
i missed the part of the debate where he got some boos

but i read an article going 'OMG RON PAUL GOT BOOED OUT OF THE DEBATES PPL HATE HIM HAHAHA' and i was like "oh no really?"

then i watched the debate today and i was like :seriously: not a lot of ppl booed and they booed before he explained himself


anyway as has been said before whenever we bring up Ron Paul this time around im shocked @ how the Impartial Media has joined forces in blacklisting him

[Death2Theft]

I fully support that, there is no need for FEMA if the national guard was not overseas grow/guarding opium. The EPA wants to tax you for breathing. Do you think they have your best interests in mind?

Obama is pushing for a citizens army much like nazi germany did. Now why do you think the US needs this? Might it be for the riots that are about to come because of the bailout money he's going to keep pumping out?
People that vote for Obama have no idea he is trying to take away liberty and change peoples rights.



He also wants to get rid of Fema and the EPA.

Ron Paul?! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Ki7_huT4M&feature=player_embedded)

[CorneringArtist]

^ :seriously:

Why am I not surprised a Nazi reference would be made in a thread that would involve Obama (reductio ad Hitlerum fallacy), but that's beside the point. Personally, I'm indifferent on who wins for now, I've been having a bit of a hard time finding candidate platforms outside the coles' notes in this thread.

[SkinnyPupp]

I've been having a bit of a hard time finding candidate platforms outside the coles' notes in this thread.

Rick Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry#Political_views)

Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul)

Political positions of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama)

[Manic!]

I fully support that, there is no need for FEMA if the national guard was not overseas grow/guarding opium. The EPA wants to tax you for breathing. Do you think they have your best interests in mind?

Obama is pushing for a citizens army much like nazi germany did. Now why do you think the US needs this? Might it be for the riots that are about to come because of the bailout money he's going to keep pumping out?
People that vote for Obama have no idea he is trying to take away liberty and change peoples rights.

What about the department of education? do you think they should get rid of that too?

[iEatClams]

I only agree with some of Ron Paul's policies, I like huntsman and Romney.

I think it will come down to Obama and Romney, and I think Obama will win.

None of the choices are my ideal candidates, but based on the options, I would pick Obama.

I just think the policies the others are proposing, especially the social and economic policies will not serve the average person better in the long run.

I'll post more some other time.

[Harvey Specter]

I agree with Ron Paul and his stance on war.

It still shocks me that America can spend $2 billion a week on the wars but let close to 50 million Americans fall below the poverty line. Shocking.

[StylinRed]

Latest Reuters Ipsos poll comparing chances that the Republican candidates have if they faced Obama


1. Mitt Romney 43% Obama 49%
2. Ron Paul 42% Obama 49%
3. Rick Perry 42% Obama 50%
4. Huntsman 37% Obama 51%
5. Bachman 36% Obama 54%
Ipsos/ Reuters Poll: September 2011 | Ipsos (http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5335)

[Gridlock]

I agree with Ron Paul and his stance on war.

It still shocks me that America can spend $2 billion a week on the wars but let close to 50 million Americans fall below the poverty line. Shocking.

Don't get too shocked. The poverty line in the US is 22000 before any gov't assistance programs.

No, you aren't a baller, but 22000 can be workable in some places in the states-like the flyover states.

Now, add in health care, or lack thereof and its an issue.

I read a stat the other day that 1 in 25 "below poverty line" people will experience a transitional period of homelessness.

These aren't 50 million beggars on the streets, India style that we are talking about here.

[Lomac]

Nm. Read the post wrong. Lol.

[Gridlock]

I don't think Ron Paul will get the support to become president. I don't even really want that to happen. I really don't like some of his other stances on things like abortion and hard right social issues.

I do hope that he gets enough support to be a legitimate vp candidate, or even Treasury secretary.

If you have someone like Romney that runs a little center for republican tastes, a little hard right on the ticket might just be the money.

[taylor192]

It still shocks me that America can spend $2 billion a week on the wars but let close to 50 million Americans fall below the poverty line. Shocking.
The US Poverty line for a single person is $11K/yr. This is less than working full time for $6/hr after taxes.

I hate the definition of "poor" when I see help wanted signs at minimum wage jobs. If people were truly "poor" these jobs would be filled, instead many (not all, don't misquote me) of these "poor" people are just looking for handouts.

[taylor192]

Don't get too shocked. The poverty line in the US is 22000 before any gov't assistance programs.
That's the figure for a family of 4. If both parents worked full time for minimum wage, they'd make more than that after taxes.

[Gridlock]

The same problem they have, we have.

One, you can make a certain amount of money, and then it starts coming off your checks.

So, I can work 10 hours or whatever, but the 11th, I might as well stay home.

Inherit to the design of the system is no incentive to end the entitlement.

Honestly, I don't have the answer. You can put caps in, but then you really do drive people to the poor house. I think the only thing that really works in the system, is the social stigma of being "that guy".

I think instead of having blanket qualifications, it should be on a needs assessment, where someone should be able to say no. However, that takes manpower, and now we're paying people to administrate and it costs more than just accepting "fraud" in the system.

I get really angry about it. We get tenants coming in that are on assistance, and you just want to ask, why? Sorry, I'm a little intense on tenancy these days, but its how I interact with these people. I have a single mother that lives a clean life, goes to school and I have no doubt will have a day where she's running on her own power. That's a win! We have a dude that sits and watches tv on his big screen, plays video games and the "government owes him" all the fucking time. That's a lose.

[Gridlock]

In terms of the republican field, they have some really weak players right now.

Bachman's a huge no. I think it will be Perry at the end, and I don't know if they'll go with a Governor from Texas again.

As much as I really don't like the republican party, I kinda hope for someone moderate and mainstream as I think Obama has done a poor job as president. People got so excited about him as a person, that he gives eloquent speeches and really appeals as a type of "every man", that they forgot to listen to what he was saying.

I have said, and will continue to say that at this point, whatever happens, they are fucked.

Seriously.

The republicans continue to beat the drum of cutting taxes for the rich, or maintaining their current rates and definitely not increasing them. It ain't working! So, it becomes a little obvious that they are there to help themselves, and their friends. It worked in the 80's, under a dramatically different tax base. Their taxes were super high, comparitively. In that case, they can use that money to invest.

30 years later, that invest that money ship has sailed.

And heaven forbid we do something foolish like have health care for the people of the country. It's down right Marxist.

The democrats under Obama are just as bad. Bush handed out 700 billion in TARP(which at least they got back), Obama hands out 800 billion never to be seen again, and then wonders why they might wantto have a debate about raising the debt ceiling. His answer? More billions in QE 1 and 2, and now 500 billion on a jobs bill, that doesn't stand a chance of actually creating jobs. If 800 billion didn't cut it, what makes you think more money is the answer?

If you want to create jobs, you need to work with job creators. They aren't always the rich guys. Its the guy that started a business for $1000, and to build it, he needs $10,000. He can't go to a bank, because that $1000 or whatever is on his credit card...he literally threw everything he had at his plan.

Those are the guys that create jobs. He needs less regulation, and a system that works.

He has counties that get in his way with taxes, forms licenses and fees. He has a city or two in his way, wanting their slice. He has a state that wants their piece and the feds, well they want to give 500 million to the fancy guys making solar panels.

So frustrating. We won't be able to avoid it here forever.

[taylor192]

The same problem they have, we have.

One, you can make a certain amount of money, and then it starts coming off your checks.

So, I can work 10 hours or whatever, but the 11th, I might as well stay home.
If you mean once you make X amount you nolonger qualify for benefits, then yes I agree.
If you're talking about taxes, then no I do not agree.

Inherit to the design of the system is no incentive to end the entitlement.

Honestly, I don't have the answer.
I don't think there is "the" answer, just an answer that works with your values.

Sorry, I'm a little intense on tenancy these days, but its how I interact with these people.
I used to live across from subsidized low income housing. One of the houses had a 50" flat screen TV, meanwhile I was doing the right ting and saving my money, paying down my mortgage/loans, and I couldn't afford a 50" TV. Maybe if less of my tax dollars subsidized that unit's rent, I could afford the TV and they wouldn't be able to.

[tiger_handheld]

might be a stupid question because i dont follow american politics.

can anyone give a coles notes for each person?

only heard of Ron Paul cuz iirc he predicted financial meltdown - but nobody cared. and obviously obama.

[Harvey Specter]

Too many things to list but wikipedia Perry and Mitt because those two are the only ones you should care about right now.

[StylinRed]

I have said, and will continue to say that at this point, whatever happens, they are fucked.

Seriously.



that's why they need someone like Ron Paul to come in and stir shit up and try to fix it


anyone else will just be more of the same; they'll just be stepping on the gas towards their destination (3rd world)

[Death2Theft]

What obama has done so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

[mikemhg]

Unless the economy COMPLETELY tanks before 2012, Obama will win re-election. While he definitely has not brought the "change" he promised on the campaign trail, he is still far more moderate than the Republican field.

The mouth breathing lot the Republicans have running I doubt have any chance of winning.

But this is the United States, so you never know.

You know what I find interesting though? How the media hype machine has gone full steam on Rick Perry. The guy went from not even running or participating in any debates, to becoming the front runner for the Republicans.

Do you honestly think Perry was able to get his name out that quickly to appeal to the voting public? This guy was a general unknown, now he's the front runner that quickly? I blame both the left and rightwing media for this, it's a fake hype that catches on with people, and eventually you see a guy like Perry leading the shit show.

Very shady stuff, but when you see the media hype machine go into full drive like this, you know there's money behind it. For this reason it would not surprise me the slightest if Perry ends up getting the nomination, and either beats Obama, or gives him a hell of a run.

It's mindblowing because Perry is Bush 2.0 times ten. Americans couldn't wait to get rid of Bush, and now folks supposedly want Perry in? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Americans seem to enjoy being fooled, so you never know.

What always blows my mind is how Americans don't call these guys out for their bullshit. Perry is campaigning on destroying government. Can you imagine applying for a job that you wanted to get rid of? What company in the world would hire you? Perry wants government gone, yet this asshole has been a career politician. Government is so terrible to this guy, yet he has spent his career working for it. He will retire wealthy, with a golden pension by an institution he so desprately wants to see rid of. Why is what has been so good for him, is so bad for the rest of America? People need to start calling these far-right Republicans out on this bullshit hypocracy.

Obama is little better though, at the end of the day I'm starting to wonder, who the fuck cares who gets in? Money talks, politics are driven by lobbyists, the money behind the scenes are what drives both parties. Either way the common people's interests will never be met until that money is removed from campaigns.

Besides, the way Obama is going, you don't need a Republican as president, he's doing all the things they are campaigning for anyways.

[iEatClams]

Too many things to list but wikipedia Perry and Mitt because those two are the only ones you should care about right now.

Perry use to be a Democrat then switched over, but hes from texas, might have a hard time since people still remember what the last texas governor did.

Romney's mormon, might also be an issue for americans, but overall he has the best chance imo against Obama. He helped his states deficit with lots of spending cuts and the state of MA has universal health care.

Some of the important issues not being addressed are social issues, which I think republicans totally ignore because they dont like being labeled as a socialist.

Education and literacy levels for Americans are decreasing while many other countries are increasing. Youth Unemployment is extremely high, and this may wreck havoc in future years. Many poor people never get to leave their neighbourhoods and experience the potential that life can bring. Policies are needed to educate and motivate workers so that they can contribute to society.

Most of the poor and uneducated people don't have the skills, habits and knowledge that the average person takes for granted. Many do not have good parents that taught them how to save, or to get an education, but instead reinforce bad habits. Instead of Medicare and crazy pensions, money should be spent on education or similar programs that promote people to develop skilled-labour.

We should look at scandanavian countries and Germany where Corporate tax rates are low to encourage investment, but Personal income tax rates are much higher with relatively less loopholes so the Rich are paying their fair share of Taxes. Trickle down theory doesn't work.

Another issue right now is globalization, many of the higher jobs are being shipped overseas, and we are now competiting against the likes of China. What remains is lower paid, minimum wage type jobs that don't really add value to the economy. Henry Ford paid his worker a higher salary, even though the going rate was much less, this allowed his employees to one day afford his cars. Just my two cents.

[goo3]

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Bush - Fool Me once - YouTube

[iEatClams]

Another issue here is that many people are concerned with who will get elected as the "President", instead of the system. Most of the power lies in Congress (the Senate and the House), as described in the Constitution. So whoever gets elected, we can't solely blame all the problems on this one individual.

[SiRV]

TRENDING: Cain upsets Perry as winner of Florida straw poll – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/24/cain-upsets-perry-as-winner-of-florida-straw-poll/)

Weird turn of events.. didn't think Cain had a chance, than again .. this is America

[Death2Theft]

Damn canada is just teetering above the states.
Waiting For Superman | Shock & Awe Public Service Announcement US (2010) - YouTube

[dinosaur]

Perry bombed in florida straw poll. Guess people take social security seriously after all.

[SiRV]

Damn canada is just teetering above the states.
Waiting For Superman | Shock & Awe Public Service Announcement US (2010) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6AfN5EiUIg)

I actually watched this documentary a while ago and it made me really angry at the teachers and .. their union. :suspicious:

[SiRV]

bump! funny to see how everythings kinda changed from expected

[0nline]

i don't know if this has been posted before, but worth the watch

The World is Endorsing Ron Paul For President 2012 - YouTube