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SR Auto question
Boostaholic
09-16-2011, 09:04 PM
I'm kinda confused about SR auto. They seemed to get mentioned quite often here on RS. So are they a tuning shop or are they a dealer? the cars in their show room, are those for sale or customers car? if they are customers car, how come the customers don't take them home?
TRDood
09-16-2011, 09:05 PM
+1
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LP700-4
09-16-2011, 09:17 PM
+2
I think the cars at the showroom are customer's. Not sure why they would leave em at the showroom but yea. Maybe when they go on vacation or something it would be a good idea but hmmmmm
Rich Sandor
09-16-2011, 09:22 PM
I know they are PRIMARILY a tuner. I don't think they have a dealer licence to sell cars officially, although I may be wrong.
The other thing I've heard is that they survive mainly on a very small and close knit customer base.
They've been super nice and friendly on the occasion that I have stopped in to inquire about wraps.
StylinRed
09-16-2011, 09:28 PM
tuner? thought they just painted/wrapped cars and fitted kits?
very helpful for sure in terms of answering questions/researching info and calling back though
MindBomber
09-16-2011, 09:34 PM
I don't view SR auto as a tuning shop, if that were the case they'd be building exotics with UndergroundRacing level modifications. SR is a customization shop, they specialize in little touches like vinyl wrap and wheels that add a touch of uniqueness to customers vehicles.
Speed Syndicate and Racing Greed are tuning shops.
LP700-4
09-16-2011, 09:50 PM
^I think they do like little modifications to engines. Exhaust systems and all that simple stuff.
I know they are PRIMARILY a tuner. I don't think they have a dealer licence to sell cars officially, although I may be wrong.
The other thing I've heard is that they survive mainly on a very small and close knit customer base.
They've been super nice and friendly on the occasion that I have stopped in to inquire about wraps.
Arent they with TAC Auto Gallery for sales?
Szeto
09-16-2011, 09:54 PM
i think SR auto does do performance mods but not sure if they actually sourced it out... there was an article in The Vancouver Sun (maybe 24?) interviewing the owner of SR Auto.
btw, I am sure Matt Zhang can answer your question :)
!Aznboi128
09-16-2011, 10:15 PM
Well I'm pretty sure a lot of the at auto cars are infact tuned and build at the speed syndicate.
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Rich Sandor
09-16-2011, 10:30 PM
yea i dunno if they are a true 'tuner' in terms of doing performance mods.. but bear in mind in Europe the term 'tuner' also refers to simple wheel and aesthetic mods too.
AVS_Racing
09-16-2011, 11:16 PM
most of the cars in the show rooms are customers, most of the time its cus the owners are out of the country.
hyde parks his cars there while he's at hk
toyota86
09-17-2011, 12:47 AM
SR is a running joke
twitchyzero
09-17-2011, 12:53 AM
SR is probably looking at this thread right now, considering..
http://www.revscene.net/forums/610497-2010-vancouver-international-auto-show-pictures.html
Oh fuck I almost want to go to the show just to bug them...
me - "AWESOME CAR... WHAT DID YOU GUYS DO TO IT?"
them - "We added rims and 2 stickers"
me - "WHAT ABOUT SUSPENSION AND ENGINE MODS?"
them - "Its stock"
me - "BUT IT SAYS TUNED BY SR"
them - "yah... we added rims"
me - "So if I change the rims on my car I can put a sticker on it I can say tuned by penner2k?"
them - "no.. we are a professional shop.. you arent"
me - "Fair enough... What about that SLR over there... its cheaper... you must have done some kick ass engine mods to it"
them - "no... we changed the rims on it and made it flat black"
me - "that is pretty sick.. how long did it take to do that paint job?"
them - "Its not a paint job.. its a vinyl covering"
me - "So what exactly do you guys do?
them - "vinyl and change rims... sometimes add stickers"
me - "Do you guys actually have a shop or do you just work out of your moms driveway?"
them - "We need to go help those customers over there"
shit no more sticker lol
:fullofwin:
fT-z33wor
09-17-2011, 02:01 AM
^ I've always wondered myself too, it gives me a chuckle every time I see a car with rims and that sticker, "tuned" lol
maybe they do high performance wheel torquing and balancing
1exotic
09-17-2011, 02:09 AM
What's with the hate? Last I've seen the stickers they put on their client cars says "designed by SR".... and that's pretty much what they're doing.
SR is just taking advantage of those rich kids/guys who are willing to pay above retail for wheels and wraps (instead of getting it done themselves). Easy money for them.
Vale46Rossi
09-17-2011, 08:14 AM
The last time I remembered... SR put a supercharger kit on a S5 for a customer which was sourced out to Speed Syndicate.
Death2Theft
09-17-2011, 09:57 AM
Of course you dont realize that all the people who dont know anything about cars... see's tuned by SR auto. They see an exotic that isn't stock now they know where to go.
Boostaholic
09-17-2011, 10:48 AM
If they just put on stickers and rims for peoples car, and all their cars are customers car, why do all their customers park their car in their show room pretty much all year around? Such as the reventon? Everytime I walk by there I see the same cars in their showroom behind Ferrari dealer.
Vale46Rossi
09-17-2011, 11:09 AM
If they just put on stickers and rims for peoples car, and all their cars are customers car, why do all their customers park their car in their show room pretty much all year around? Such as the reventon? Everytime I walk by there I see the same cars in their showroom behind Ferrari dealer.
The owner of the Reventon lives in China for most of his time, and he leave his cars at SR mind you these are not his only cars because he has a Zonda in China.
ws6ta
09-17-2011, 12:23 PM
TAC Auto Gallery. Vancouver, B.C. (http://tacautogallery.com/)
MindBomber
09-17-2011, 03:47 PM
The owner of the Reventon lives in China for most of his time, and he leave his cars at SR mind you these are not his only cars because he has a Zonda in China.
It's sad to think that the owner of a Reventon and Zonda does business with SR.
Valour
09-17-2011, 04:42 PM
The guys at SR are all very friendly and knowledgeable.
SR's roots go all the way back to Revolution racing. They have very strong roots as tuners. They were very supportive of the community back in the day, lots of civics and integra type R's got modded lol
Lately I noticed that their business model changed to more boutique/high end customers.
I think a lot of negative comments have more to do with hatemongering and class-warfare lol.
I say that they earned their pedigree and good luck for them if their clientele puts them on easy street.
I think they earn a larger profit from selling high end wheels and accessories vs a smaller margin from tuning cars.
I mean lets say u tune a car at $100/hr times 8 hours. A good tech costs $40 per hour so u make 60x8 = $480 profit from tuning minus overhead.
Well, one rich chinaman buys a wheel set at $15k, ur profit is lets say 20% at $3,000. Even if u r sales spends all day lapping his tiny asian balls, at $20/hr x 8 hours is $160, u r still way ahead in profit.
look, how many of you would play with sideswipe if he was a civic? U think he's cool cuz he's a lambo.
Be happy for this local success story.
!e.lo_
09-17-2011, 05:02 PM
Speed Syndicate does some of the performance stuff for some of the SR customer cars, like the Merc mentioned.
ilvtofu
09-17-2011, 05:03 PM
A lot of us don't like them because they are paid to be a middle man to do something most of us can do sitting on our asses and lying in bed. But IMO there is a place for them because there are a lot of people who want a better looking car but know nothing at all about aftermarket parts. Bolt patterns, hub bore, offsets, and tire size might be simple for us but I can see how it can be a nightmare for others
optiblue
09-17-2011, 05:23 PM
A lot of us don't like them because they are paid to be a middle man to do something most of us can do sitting on our asses and lying in bed. But IMO there is a place for them because there are a lot of people who want a better looking car but know nothing at all about aftermarket parts. Bolt patterns, hub bore, offsets, and tire size might be simple for us but I can see how it can be a nightmare for others
Pretty much summed it up. They've even done their homework and attend all the autoshows to advertise for their company. At the end of the day, the only beef I have is that I didn't think of it first before them!
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The guys at SR are all very friendly and knowledgeable.
SR's roots go all the way back to Revolution racing. They have very strong roots as tuners. They were very supportive of the community back in the day, lots of civics and integra type R's got modded lol
Lately I noticed that their business model changed to more boutique/high end customers.
I think a lot of negative comments have more to do with hatemongering and class-warfare lol.
I say that they earned their pedigree and good luck for them if their clientele puts them on easy street.
I think they earn a larger profit from selling high end wheels and accessories vs a smaller margin from tuning cars.
I mean lets say u tune a car at $100/hr times 8 hours. A good tech costs $40 per hour so u make 60x8 = $480 profit from tuning minus overhead.
Well, one rich chinaman buys a wheel set at $15k, ur profit is lets say 20% at $3,000. Even if u r sales spends all day lapping his tiny asian balls, at $20/hr x 8 hours is $160, u r still way ahead in profit.
look, how many of you would play with sideswipe if he was a civic? U think he's cool cuz he's a lambo.
Be happy for this local success story.
I think the reason for the hate is not because of some disparity between the rich and the poor (which for some reason, someone here always thinks all hate are rooted from the fact that people are jealous of the rich)
But the hate is rooted from the fact that they claim themselves as a tuner when they do not do engine or drivetrain mods. They might've done it in the past, but certainly not now. It's a misleading title to brand to a company.
Sure, they have a past in tuning civics and integras, but actually tuning and upgrading parts on a 300,000 exotic is different story. It requires a level of expertise and equipment that is above your everyday garage. You don't take your Lamborghini to mr lube for an oil change do you?
Claiming that you tune exotics when all you do a cosmetic mods is a disgrace to actual tuners (which have years of experience and expertise that are beyond the skill of everyday garages) of Ferraris and other exotics IMO.
fT-z33wor
09-17-2011, 06:25 PM
rooted from the fact that they claim themselves as a tuner when they do not do engine or drivetrain mods. They might've done it in the past, but certainly not now. It's a misleading title to brand to a company.
Sure, they have a past in tuning civics and integras, but actually tuning and upgrading parts on a 300,000 exotic is different story. It requires a level of expertise and equipment that is above your everyday garage. You don't take your Lamborghini to mr lube for an oil change do you?
Claiming that you tune exotics when all you do a cosmetic mods is a disgrace to actual tuners (which have years of experience and expertise that are beyond the skill of everyday garages) of Ferraris and other exotics IMO.
+1
Vale46Rossi
09-17-2011, 07:45 PM
It's sad to think that the owner of a Reventon and Zonda does business with SR.
Why is it sad?
SR is probably the most expensive shop he can find local and he is more of a friend to Cyrus than a customer.
The owner of the cars deal with SCC in China which is probably one of the most reputable groups as well.
-EuroRSN-
09-17-2011, 10:49 PM
WHATS SR AUTO? :troll:
I've seen cars in their showroom for sale @ the location by Kits.
In my eyes, they are not true tuners. They do mod cars though.
If you want something, they can order it in for u. If it's simple, they'll do the install.
If not, they source the work to another shop.
Their guys in the back aren't gonna build your engine, that's for sure.
MindBomber
09-17-2011, 11:28 PM
Why is it sad?
SR is probably the most expensive shop he can find local and he is more of a friend to Cyrus than a customer.
The owner of the cars deal with SCC in China which is probably one of the most reputable groups as well.
Expensive, I guess.
Skilled, not in regards to technical work.
I totally understand bringing an R8 to SR for rims and vinyl, there is a place for a business that specializes in cosmetics in the marketplace. A Reventon and a Zonda are beyond the level of exotic cars though, they are true super cars and should be worked on by those with a deep understanding of the function, not just the form. That's just my opinion of course.
Vale46Rossi
09-17-2011, 11:45 PM
Expensive, I guess.
Skilled, not in regards to technical work.
I totally understand bringing an R8 to SR for rims and vinyl, there is a place for a business that specializes in cosmetics in the marketplace. A Reventon and a Zonda are beyond the level of exotic cars though, they are true super cars and should be worked on by those with a deep understanding of the function, not just the form. That's just my opinion of course.
Of course, agreed and understand where your standpoint is,
but then again looking at history SR has been here for a long time so they are probably one of the most qualified locally.
also they are probably the people who has worked with the MOST exotics and MOST expensive cars local and like I said I am sure there are more than a customer to business relationship and more of a friend to friend relationship.
MindBomber
09-17-2011, 11:49 PM
Of course, agreed and understand where your standpoint is,
but then again looking at history SR has been here for a long time so they are probably one of the most qualified locally.
also they are probably the people who has worked with the MOST exotics and MOST expensive cars local and like I said I am sure there are more than a customer to business relationship and more of a friend to friend relationship.
Totally, SR is somewhat of a club, not just a business.
I think a lot of people go to them to be apart of that.
Gridlock
09-18-2011, 02:01 PM
How has no one ever asked...
Are they a front?
A business, with no real product, that no one really knows what they do. It's a possibility.
they have a business model that works.
they found their niche in the market.
i dont see anything wrong with that.
those old enough to understand and been thru the aftermarket aftersales auto industry, through its changes, understand that surviving this many years, means either you got a working business model, or you are quick enough to adapt to change, thus, a good working business model.
LP700-4
09-18-2011, 08:11 PM
I guess they found an opportunity for more $$$ and to have a reputation with working on exotics and jumped on it.
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