[nowaythisistake]

yeah yeah, we all know it's the best place on Earth or whatever Tourism BC says but anyone who's lived here and doesn't get pissed off at the city from time to time is delusional. i wanted to make this a scientific poll but i don't know how, so tell me what you think is the worst part of living in Vancouver.

is it the weather? driving? construction? real estate prices? gangs? posers? the culture of entitlement? something else? elaborate below!

[Ronin]

So you got this question in your social studies class and want us to do your homework for you?

[E-40six]

Complainers and whiners, I can live with everything else here and enjoy it

[Alatar]

Stupid people. There just seem to be so many of them.

Common sense is not so common.
-Voltaire

[nowaythisistake]

So you got this question in your social studies class and want us to do your homework for you?

sorry bronin i'm a little old for socials homework

lol at the fails, yeah Vancouver's a nice place and all but the sheer fanboyism towards the city is another annoyance.

[k3mps]

rioters who do it for fun

[Alpha Kappa]

drivers :fulloffuck:

[bcrdukes]

Alpha Kappa

[Alpha Kappa]

?? what ?? not even bradford chow, larry chu, or revrav?? :okay:

[white_guilt]

Surrey.

[GabAlmighty]

Paved roads

[Gerbs]

Alpha Kappa

thats what i was going to write. we think alike.haha :megusta:
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[Alpha Kappa]

^ what the hell do you have against me? I don't even talk to you :seriously:

[doma]

mainlanders,surrey and the vcc

[krazynuck]

Complainers and whiners, I can live with everything else here and enjoy it

stop complaining about the complainers :troll:

I hate nothing ....vancouver kicks ass

[sexyaccord]

wheres the poll?

[SkinnyPupp]

Honestly the worst part of Vancouver for me is the weather. And the crime

[sonick]

Revscene.

[shawn79]

asian gang fight

[LP700-4]

Surrey-type brown people
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[Mr.C]

Surrey.

Haters always gonna hate, yo.

I hate the fact that there is no beach here, just that travesty called Kits beach.

[Fafine]

joe45

[keifun]

Ed Hardy gangster wannabe posers

[Marco911]

<D>

[Marco911]

(1) Vancouver is not a world-class city. Most Vancouver residents for the most part are not cultured to appreciate the Arts - museums, ballet, orchestras, galleries like you have in Paris, London, New York.

(2) It is not a fun city - The city does not plan as many major activities or fairs on weekends like Chicago, Toronto or San Francisco. Symphony of Lights is the biggest public event of the year, which is pathetic.


(3) There are no major Fortune 500 corporations or a large commercial sector. Thus there is a big brain drain for talented individuals to leave Vancouver to pursue opportunities in the U.S. or Toronto.

(4) Education opportunities - There isn't much research published in prestigious journals that originate from local universities. Schools admit undergraduates mostly on the basis of grades alone which result in students that are not well-balanced.

(5) Housing prices are way out of line compared to salaries and rental income.

(6) Immigration. This is a federal issue, but the fact of the matter is that Vancouver is a top destination for immigrants so it becomes a Vancouver problem. I don't have an issue with immigrants per se, just the quality of immigrants that are allowed to enter. We should be much more selective - take the cream and reject applicants who will find it difficult to adapt to the local culture.

(7) It's an anti-car city. Self-explanatory.

In summary, despite its high rankings, it is not a world class city. It is provincial. If I am going to spend my time in a provincial city, I'd rather be in Zurich, Stockholm or the south of France.

[Drk]

Too many chinese people [no racist]

[sindragon]

I am sure everyone in revscene is going to agree with me

1) the weather. Have fun enjoying the rain compared to other nice cities in the world

2) house prices. Seriously, you have to make big bucks in order to get a nice house nowadays

3)mainlanders, the ones who get their dads to buy them a lambo or a ferrari :seriously: and the retarded ones who do NOT go to school and live off their parents. Seriously, GTFO! waste of space

4) the fucking school board. Strikes and budget 24/7 :facepalm:

I personally never thought that vancouver has such high crime rate as skinnypup pointed out

[no_clue]

I am sure everyone in revscene is going to agree with me

3)mainlanders, the ones who get their dads to buy them a lambo or a ferrari :seriously: and the retarded ones who do NOT go to school and live off their parents. Seriously, GTFO! waste of space



Not to play devils advocate, but why do you hate this?
this is more of a jealousy issue. They are not a waste of space, they help support Vancouver's largely service/retail economy. Look at the HST on a $320,000 lambo. Probably more than what most average Vancouverite pays in income tax.

[dbaz]

lack of english :troll:

[Culture_Vulture]

(1) Vancouver is not a world-class city. Most Vancouver residents for the most part are not cultured to appreciate the Arts - museums, ballet, orchestras, galleries like you have in Paris, London, New York.

(2) It is not a fun city - The city does not plan as many major activities or fairs on weekends like Chicago, Toronto or San Francisco. Symphony of Lights is the biggest public event of the year, which is pathetic.


(3) There are no major Fortune 500 corporations or a large commercial sector. Thus there is a big brain drain for talented individuals to leave Vancouver to pursue opportunities in the U.S. or Toronto.

(4) Education opportunities - There isn't much research published in prestigious journals that originate from local universities. Schools admit undergraduates mostly on the basis of grades alone which result in students that are not well-balanced.

(5) Housing prices are way out of line compared to salaries and rental income.

(6) Immigration. This is a federal issue, but the fact of the matter is that Vancouver is a top destination for immigrants so it becomes a Vancouver problem. I don't have an issue with immigrants per se, just the quality of immigrants that are allowed to enter. We should be much more selective - take the cream and reject applicants who will find it difficult to adapt to the local culture.

(7) It's an anti-car city. Self-explanatory.

In summary, despite its high rankings, it is not a world class city. It is provincial. If I am going to spend my time in a provincial city, I'd rather be in Zurich, Stockholm or the south of France.
I think the more pressing issue is how Vancouver/Vancouverites tend to like advocating the opposite of most of the above.

[spoon.ek9]

to be honest, i hate people who complain about the weather here. live in alberta for a single winter season... seriously. also, not only do people complain about rain endlessly here, they also complain when it's hot :fulloffuck: :seriously: ?????

[Culverin]

I hate that the transportation infrastructure was never planned to be able to scale up. That was way back in the day, so nothing that I can super rage about.

Much more recent is that they didn't build freaking park and rides at lougheed, brentwood and metrotown.
3 major retail/business hubs in burnaby that would have brought in a lot of income into the city, and there are no park and rides. (the 20 or so spots @ lougheed don't really count).

If I could ride out to brentwood, park in a covered, gated, patrolled lot, I wouldn't ride into downtown.


So I guess I hate translink?

[white_guilt]

Not to play devils advocate, but why do you hate this?
this is more of a jealousy issue. They are not a waste of space, they help support Vancouver's largely service/retail economy. Look at the HST on a $320,000 lambo. Probably more than what most average Vancouverite pays in income tax.

yup. and god forbid you call a honger a mainlander. that distinction HAS to be made or the wrath of god will be brought upon you. Yet, they have no idea that to the outsider, the Hongers, the Mainlanders and the Taiwanese are all completely and utterly, indiscernible.

[Greenstoner]

slow construction

[Zoidberg]

This guy

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ONT6emCocpY/TTON_Vh_TEI/AAAAAAAAADc/SUPtItQfIcA/s1600/Image5.jpg

[Okami]

for me i hate old asian people that always manage to pop out of no where as the bus is just about to leave.. then they start smacking on the door and the bus stops for them.. then when the bus driver tells them not to do that because its unsafe they just laugh..

[spoon.ek9]

for me i hate old asian people that always manage to pop out of no where as the bus is just about to leave.. then they start smacking on the door and the bus stops for them.. then when the bus driver tells them not to do that because its unsafe they just laugh..

are they all: :fuckthatshit:

[SkinnyPupp]

As far as being an anti car city, get used to it. EVERY city will be an anti car city sooner than later.

And living in a city where you don't need a car for normal life, it's for the better, imo
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[J-Chow]

I hate people who post threads in Revscene asking "what do you hate most about Vancouver?" :troll:

[1exotic]

This guy

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ONT6emCocpY/TTON_Vh_TEI/AAAAAAAAADc/SUPtItQfIcA/s1600/Image5.jpg

:gun:

[wouwou]

Last Friday every month downtown

and what Marco911 said

[wouwou]

3)mainlanders, the ones who get their dads to buy them a lambo or a ferrari :seriously: and the retarded ones who do NOT go to school and live off their parents. Seriously, GTFO! waste of space



are you kidding me, they are a GREAT SOURCE OF INCOME.

NOTHING is better for business than a bunch of dumb teenagers loaded with money to impress others.

Think what Jersey Shore did for Ed-Hardy :fuckyea:

[Marco911]

As far as being an anti car city, get used to it. EVERY city will be an anti car city sooner than later.

And living in a city where you don't need a car for normal life, it's for the better, imo
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Bullshit. Drivers still subsidize the cost of public transit. Bike lanes are woefully wasteful as they are not used by the vast majority of the population.

[Vansterdam]

Skytrain not 24hr
Buses never on time
Rain
Expensive transit
Surrey jacks
Housing/renting prices
Driving/drinking laws
No white castle/red lobster/jack in the box
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[Vansterdam]

Oh and what's with shows and music concerts being so fucken overpriced in van compared to seeing the same event somewhere else in canada
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[TheKingdom2000]

Haters always gonna hate, yo.

I hate the fact that there is no beach here, just that travesty called Kits beach.

3rd beach?

[StylinRed]

ICBC

TransLink

[Death2Theft]

Skytrain not 24hr
Buses never on time
Rain
Expensive transit
Surrey jacks
Housing/renting prices
Driving/drinking laws
No white castle/red lobster/jack in the box
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Where exactly is transit cheaper?

[Vansterdam]

Where exactly is transit cheaper?

google ftw Public transportation prices in 80 cities around the world (http://www.priceoftravel.com/595/public-transportation-prices-in-80-worldwide-cities/)

San Francisco, USA (tram, bus, metro) $2.00
Miami, USA (bus) $2.00

wow compared to montreal and toronto though were paying the least $ lol

im also gonna add the price for canucks tickets @ rogers :fuuuuu:

[Drow]

Oh and what's with shows and music concerts being so fucken overpriced in van compared to seeing the same event somewhere else in canada
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True that. Now im talking mainly about raves here, why the hell would they charge ~100 bux for a ticket at a ghetto ass venue? People need to stop buying those overpriced tickets but when big raves are so seldom in van, its kinda hard not to :cry:
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[Nvasion]

bad driving skills
east hastings homeless people
ugly girls that think they are hot sh*t
no red lobster
exepensive everything

[Great68]

Aircare

[Hurricane]

Skytrain not 24hr
Buses never on time
Rain
Expensive transit
Surrey jacks
Housing/renting prices
Driving/drinking laws
No white castle/red lobster/jack in the box
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Where the fuk are you comparing Vancouver too? Some non-existent paradise that exists only in your brain after smoking a fatty?

You want cheap transit, lack of law enforcement, and shitty food; go live in Dehli, Caracas, or Mexico City. You will be begging to be back around those surrey jacks, rain, and 3 minute late loser cruisers faster than you can pull your free plastic toy out of the treasure chest at red lobster.

Which brings me to what I hate most about Vancouver. Losers who have never traveled to other places, have entitlement issues, and do nothing but smoke weed, work shitty jobs, and complain about how they can't afford a house in the city. (Not directed at you by the way just seemed like an appropriate post to transition from).

[drunkrussian]

lack of huge companies headquartered here. if we had them, thered be more ppl, better jobs, better transit and way more fun city events and attractions
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[CorneringArtist]

This guy

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ONT6emCocpY/TTON_Vh_TEI/AAAAAAAAADc/SUPtItQfIcA/s1600/Image5.jpg

And this guy
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r3OHLxxUNKE/TWXaBXOm_ZI/AAAAAAAAAaI/w5E7aNE46sk/s1600/Peter%2BChao%2BVancouver.jpeg

[q0192837465]

Housing price is the biggest thing I hate about this city. It's so out of line with the average salary that an average person makes.
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[toyobaru]

1) The Asians that migrate here and don't teach their "culturally" disabled brat how to not be a snobby little snot who clearly doesn't know the meaning of money.

2) The wanna-be ed hardy wearing posers

3) The VAST amount of women in Vancouver that have no concept of reality and only want to have fun and live the moment. Then when 27 comes they realize: "Shit I need to get my shit sorted out" cause we all know at some point THE MILKS GONE BAD.

[sonick]

Vancouver's mayor and his bullshit eco/green policies that cater to a tiny segment of people at the expense of the majority.

[melloman]

No 24hr rapid transit.
ICBC always being a prick.
Housing market is crazy inflated.

[dachinesedude]

Too many chinese people [no racist]

i lol'd

we taking over, u mad?

[MG1]

whiners...............

[hotjoint]

ICBC

TransLink

:werd:

[skylinergtr]

-construction, at the worst times!
-ICBC
-High cost of living.

[Gumby]

Interesting... this thread is longer than the "what do you like most about Vancouver" thread.

[kuruuze]

Too many to list them all but majority of revsceners got it down.

Mainlanders and expensive EVERYTHING. Make the housing market affordable and stop letting in those immigrants that are driving up cost of living and this will be the perfect city. I guess those are the same thing though.

[Psykopathik]

aircare.

[Tapioca]

The fact that many of you are complaining about things that are trivial in the grand scheme of things (ICBC, transit, fake gangsters, etc.) basically affirms Marco911's point about Vancouverites and their provincialism.

I would say the lack of culture is a big one and of course, the lack of head offices. But you know what's the biggest thing for me? The fact that you can't talk to random people here.

[sonick]

The fact that you can't talk to random people here.

Yesss.

[!Yaminashi]

Honestly right now the thing I hate most is our lack of summer the past couple years.
Has summer even shown up? Sure doesnt feel like it to me..

[StylinRed]

Interesting... this thread is longer than the "what do you like most about Vancouver" thread.

because what people do best is complain; since its something that bothers them that leaves a stain on their mind

people take for granted what they love so no matter where this topic is based you'll always have a longer "i hate" list than "i love"

they'll need to go live somewhere else before they're like "man i miss...."

[dinosaur]

bike lanes and hipsters.

[van_driver]

http://bestofmeanwhilein.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/meanwhile-in-africa-airport.jpg

[MindBomber]

Interesting... this thread is longer than the "what do you like most about Vancouver" thread.

this thread was already two pages long before I created "What do you love most about Vancouver".

and seriously...
People are complaining about Vancouver not having a Red Lobster?

[sonick]

and seriously...
People are complaining about Vancouver not having a Red Lobster?

+1, wtf. Red Lobster is a crock of diarrhea compared to the seafood places in Vancouver.

And don't get me started on Olive Garden.

[7seven]

Only 2 things I really hate about Vancouver, our mayor Gregor Robertson and rude mainlanders/hongers.

[murmur]

1.
being a chain smoker, i find the anti-cigarettes policies are getting ridiculous.
there is not enough protection for smokers, when it rains, we are expected to smoke under the rain.

2.
working in customer service for a long time, i realize there are always people (especially in vancouver) making a fuzz over discount that they are not eligible for. they would bitch at you and force you to call your manager, when your manager comes, they changed face and stop bitching but still ask for 5% discount. your manager look at you like a dumbfcuk.

and no, the customers are not asian. /rant

[MindBomber]

I hope every one of you complaining about Gregor Robertson vote on November 19th, even though I know the majority actually won't.

[twitchyzero]

majority of the Vancouver youths/young adults are spoiled. This is partially due to the expensive real estate. I'm not saying to grow up you MUST move out but too many get comfortable from driving their parents car, getting their bills paid, working at some dead-end job while taking a class or two there while still trying to figure out what they wanna do for the rest of their life when they are well into their late 20's.

This is not limited to a particular race, but I see many Westernized Asians fall into this pattern.

[InvisibleSoul]

Housing prices. Ridiculous.

[shawn79]

most white people are forced out to live by themselves after age of 18, when they cannot afford rent they move to other provinces

[bigzz786786]

what really pisses me off are cyclists using the middle of the road lane when there is a bike lane right there!

when there isn't a bike lane then i can understand them using the road lane, but at least move to the side so the cars can pass you instead of holding up traffic

also, when there is a red light, i have had some cyclists put there hand on my car to lean on, wtf!

[sonick]

Fat girls who wear TnA pants

[hotong]

brown kids at the gym who think they are jacked

[melloman]

The fact that you can't talk to random people here.

I don't know who you try to talk to... but I talk to lots of randoms.. guys & girls, while walking around.. I just don't talk to people on the skytrain much because everyone seems to be plugged into something..

[7seven]

I don't know who you try to talk to... but I talk to lots of randoms.. guys & girls, while walking around..

This, I generally find people in Vancouver pretty friendly and outgoing

[minoru_tanaka]

I hate how they time the streetlights. The only ones they have dont properly are on Dunsmuir. Heading north into downtown if you want to hit every green light you have to go 30. And I can't go fast enough to get to the next intersection before that light turns red.

Prime example is 12th ave and Broadway and then Main. Try it. At 12th you get a green for 15 secs and then it's red for over a minute. Broadway will turn red just before you get there. While you wait at Broadway the light at Main turns green. As soon as you get the green the light at Main turns red.

It's like we pay these city planners and they screw us over on purpose.

[see.lai]

Surprised nobody mentioned the gas prices.

With the prices going up, I'll have to drive down to Pt.Roberts to fill up..:alone:

[minoru_tanaka]

^ yes I spend a lot of gas idling at red lights waiting for no cars to pass by. Coincidentally the highest gas prices in Canada.

[murmur]

oh and that colourfuljoy computer place in richmond public market
fcuking scammed me and ripped me off.

sometimes the policy to protect consumers are not enough :(

[LSF22]

Prime example is 12th ave and Broadway and then Main. Try it. At 12th you get a green for 15 secs and then it's red for over a minute. Broadway will turn red just before you get there. While you wait at Broadway the light at Main turns green. As soon as you get the green the light at Main turns red.

It's like we pay these city planners and they screw us over on purpose.

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/MTLostSoul/challenge-accepted.png

[MG1]

I hope every one of you complaining about Gregor Robertson vote on November 19th, even though I know the majority actually won't.

If I lived in Vancouver, I'd vote him out, for sure.

[JD¹³]

And living in a city where you don't need a car for normal life, it's for the better, imo
+1. I miss living in Hong Kong for this very reason.

My biggest gripe about Vancouver is that it's filled with spineless, inept sheeple. Society in this part of the world coddles the weak and punishes the competent. The average IQ of Vancouver residents feels like it's about 75, and it drives me fucking crazy. The provincial government is one of the worst offenders.

[minoru_tanaka]

LSF22, I await your results!

[Culverin]

1.
being a chain smoker, i find the anti-cigarettes policies are getting ridiculous.
there is not enough protection for smokers, when it rains, we are expected to smoke under the rain.

I think anti-cigarette policy is just fine. One of my biggest gripes are smokers that insist on standing in the covered shelter with everybody else when it's a rainy day. It's like hot boxing the rest of us in cigarette smoke. P.S. It's illegal and inconsiderate.

I don't expect the city to enable a smoker's choice by providing you shelter. I expect you to find your own. If you were smart, you'd carry around an umbrella.
Cigs are a bad for the environment, butts take forever to break down. Smokers have a track record of just not giving a crap and tossing them on the ground wherever they are or just out the car. Why should my tax dollar go towards building you protection?



most white people are forced out to live by themselves after age of 18, when they cannot afford rent they move to other provinces

Forced out by.... their parents? I know white friends that still live at home.
I also know some mouthy ones that end up moving out. Most asians you see have a certain amount of "stfu" when it comes to their parents. Lols, not me though. I moved out once I was able.
I don't think it's so much a race thing, it's because the culture doesn't actively encourage obedience.

[minoru_tanaka]

1.
being a chain smoker, i find the anti-cigarettes policies are getting ridiculous.
there is not enough protection for smokers, when it rains, we are expected to smoke under the rain.
/rant

Ever heard of the e-cig?

[jaemc]

As noted before.
ICBC, AirCare, parking in downtown, bikers that bike retaardedly slow in the incorrect lanes.

[GG]

1) gay speed limit
what are we? living in the 70s?

2) go green mayors with their lame bike lanes

3) real estate is a joke

4) taxes and everything is expensive

5) transit is overpriced and a fucked up system.

you take one station and it costs you one zone, you may travel 5-8 stations and it cost you the same. Wat the fuck?
did i mention that they are always late? and if they are late they choose not to come until the next time zone comes.

[unit]

Skytrain not 24hr
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there are VERY few cities in the world that have this.
almost every city ive been to other than ny and chicago have their metros close at around 12-1am.

[TRD Rs200]

canucks never won the cup

[buddy]

housing price

[Sid Vicious]

clubbin too expensive due to monopolistic competition and dumbasses willing to pay ridiculous amounts.

aside from high prices on pretty much everything...not much to complain about, vancouver styles on pretty much most cities in the world

[StylinRed]

(1) Vancouver is not a world-class city. Most Vancouver residents for the most part are not cultured to appreciate the Arts - museums, ballet, orchestras, galleries like you have in Paris, London, New York.
the only thing i wish we had in vancouver is the victoria museum other than that vancouver is already too much of an artsy-hipster locale (and this from a guy who loves museums galleries)

if you want something with a rich historical collection of art.. well what do you expect? you're going to have to go to a city with a long history.
Vancouver hasn't been around for hundreds/thousands of years like some places...

but if you still insisted in comparing to a place like Paris/London/NY... look at the population differences... percentage wise i wouldn't be surprised if we exceeded what you could find in those cities...

[Fafine]

majority of the Vancouver youths/young adults are spoiled. This is partially due to the expensive real estate. I'm not saying to grow up you MUST move out but too many get comfortable from driving their parents car, getting their bills paid, working at some dead-end job while taking a class or two there while still trying to figure out what they wanna do for the rest of their life when they are well into their late 20's.

This is not limited to a particular race, but I see many Westernized Asians fall into this pattern.

Because after their parents die, they'll get the house(s) or its split between siblings.

So they don't really have to work hard in life and just become shitstains
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[Mancini]

[QUOTE=sindragon;7583935]I am sure everyone in revscene is going to agree with me

1) the weather. Have fun enjoying the rain compared to other nice cities in the world

The weather here is great. The more I travel the more I appreciate our mild weather. Other cities have wild swings that we don't get. Plus, the rain keeps the temperature moderate.
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[Anjew]

Because after their parents die, they'll get the house(s) or its split between siblings.

So they don't really have to work hard in life and just become shitstains
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best not think about those people. spoiled children with no values has been around for ages. focus on what you can achieve with your life and not someone wasting time like they are.

[gars]

As much as people complain about the prices here, I have to say that Vancouver has some of the most affordable and diverse food. We don't have the Red Lobsters or Outback Steakhouses - but our food is honestly a lot better than the crap those restaurants serve.

[Harvey Specter]

1. Yaletown
2. Yaletown "crowd"
3. Granville Street

[Phil@rise]

I don't hate nothin here I wouldn't hate elsewhere.

[Tapioca]

the only thing i wish we had in vancouver is the victoria museum other than that vancouver is already too much of an artsy-hipster locale (and this from a guy who loves museums galleries)

if you want something with a rich historical collection of art.. well what do you expect? you're going to have to go to a city with a long history.
Vancouver hasn't been around for hundreds/thousands of years like some places...

but if you still insisted in comparing to a place like Paris/London/NY... look at the population differences... percentage wise i wouldn't be surprised if we exceeded what you could find in those cities...

Ever been to Portland, Oregon? Or the Lower East Side in NYC? Portland has the highest concentration of trust-fund, microbrewery loving, single-speed bike riding hipsters in North America. The folks on Main Street don't even come within a whiff of Portlanders.

I've visited NYC, Paris, and London and though they each have their sore points, they all are truly world-class cities. Marco speaks from a different perspective because he's from the top 5% of earners who have the ability to enjoy most of what each city has to offer. For the average resident of those cities, life is very much a struggle as it is to the average Vancouverite.

As much as people complain about the prices here, I have to say that Vancouver has some of the most affordable and diverse food. We don't have the Red Lobsters or Outback Steakhouses - but our food is honestly a lot better than the crap those restaurants serve.

I was at a Red Lobster last month and it came nowhere close to the hype. If you look over-salted, over-buttered food, I suppose it's for you, but for me who's used to more creative cuisine, no thanks. Our local chains like Cactus and Joey even do a better job on their food than American chains.

I got failed for saying this a while ago, but based on the complaints here, it seems that a city like Hong Kong comes closest to utopia for the average RS user.
- Great public transit
- Low taxes
- Cheap and delicious food
- Nightlife options are good - Shenzhen and Macau are only an hour away
- Career opportunities if you work hard

The only thing that sucks about the place is the humidity.

[unit]

^most hipsters ive ever seen was in chicago in the wicker park area.
never seen so many fixed gear bikes in my life.

[JD¹³]

As much as people complain about the prices here, I have to say that Vancouver has some of the most affordable and diverse food.
Wow, you really need to travel because this statement is brutally false.

[CP.AR]

1.) Translink

2.) People bitching and complaining at me when i tell them I only speak Cantonese and English, and they tell me "you need to know mandarin if you live in vancouver"

[Culverin]

As much as people complain about the prices here, I have to say that Vancouver has some of the most affordable and diverse food. We don't have the Red Lobsters or Outback Steakhouses - but our food is honestly a lot better than the crap those restaurants serve.

Wow, you really need to travel because this statement is brutally false.

^
Spot on.

I don't think it's just traveling. Gars, you just need to watch a little No Reservations.
Diverse, yes.
Decent, definitely. I'd even go to say we're pretty well above average here.
But it's definitely not cheap.
I hate to sound like a come-off-ish prick here, but a real foodie wouldn't even be talking about chain restaurants.

[JD¹³]

1.) Translink
The only thing I have to say to TransLink is: Octopus or :gtfo:

[gars]

^
Spot on.

I don't think it's just traveling. Gars, you just need to watch a little No Reservations.
Diverse, yes.
Decent, definitely. I'd even go to say we're pretty well above average here.
But it's definitely not cheap.
I hate to sound like a come-off-ish prick here, but a real foodie wouldn't even be talking about chain restaurants.

I've actually traveled quite a bit around - around most of Europe... - and compared to most places around North America and Europe - our food is actually quite cheap. Obviously, you can't compare it to countries in Asia, etc...

I'm only mentioning Chain Restaurants because there were guys on here that complained that we don't have them here.

[DsZ24]

-That the average working joe can't afford to buy a detached house here
-People who tailgate you when there's already another car right in front of you. (It's not like you're going to push me through the other car so back off)
-The judical system here, Repeat criminals get busted doing the same thing over and over and get a warning saying don't do it again. Then they're back on the street the next day.

[woob]

Who needs chain restaurants when you've got awesome hole-in-the-wall places strewn about the whole city?

One of the things I HATE about Everytown, USA is the lack of personality each town has because it is ALL big box stores and chain restaurants. The lack of boutique stores and non-chain restaurants is saddening.

[Qmx323]

1.) Translink

2.) People bitching and complaining at me when i tell them I only speak Cantonese and English, and they tell me "you need to know mandarin if you live in vancouver"

Agree with number 2... but its the other way around cuz I speak Mandarin.

I get "You need to speak Canto if you live in Vancouver"

.... I'm trying to learn :concentrate::okay:

[will068]

2. Yaletown "crowd"




You mean the 50 year olds who think they're 25 ?

[will068]

I've actually traveled quite a bit around - around most of Europe... - and compared to most places around North America and Europe - our food is actually quite cheap. Obviously, you can't compare it to countries in Asia, etc...

I'm only mentioning Chain Restaurants because there were guys on here that complained that we don't have them here.


In terms of high end food. Yup, our high end restaurants have reasonable prices compared to others.

[MindBomber]

Agree with number 2... but its the other way around cuz I speak Mandarin.

I get "You need to speak Canto if you live in Vancouver"

.... I'm trying to learn :concentrate::okay:

I don't know how I make it through the day speaking only english and french..

:seriously:

[Sid Vicious]

Ever been to Portland, Oregon? Or the Lower East Side in NYC? Portland has the highest concentration of trust-fund, microbrewery loving, single-speed bike riding hipsters in North America. The folks on Main Street don't even come within a whiff of Portlanders.

I've visited NYC, Paris, and London and though they each have their sore points, they all are truly world-class cities. Marco speaks from a different perspective because he's from the top 5% of earners who have the ability to enjoy most of what each city has to offer. For the average resident of those cities, life is very much a struggle as it is to the average Vancouverite.



I was at a Red Lobster last month and it came nowhere close to the hype. If you look over-salted, over-buttered food, I suppose it's for you, but for me who's used to more creative cuisine, no thanks. Our local chains like Cactus and Joey even do a better job on their food than American chains.

I got failed for saying this a while ago, but based on the complaints here, it seems that a city like Hong Kong comes closest to utopia for the average RS user.
- Great public transit
- Low taxes
- Cheap and delicious food
- Nightlife options are good - Shenzhen and Macau are only an hour away
- Career opportunities if you work hard

The only thing that sucks about the place is the humidity.

whats so great about hong kong

-crowded
-hot
-polluted
-no skiing/snowboarding/outdoor activities/climbing
-uglier girls (on average)

[Matlock]

Housing prices seem barely attainable even with a dual income.
Taxes are expensive. We get dinged when we earn money, then get dinged when we spend it again.
Gas is expensive.
Everything is expensive.
Homeless people. I just don't like them, no offense to you if you are homeless.
Traffic is stupid during rush hour.
Mayor McChicken is a joke with his riot, chicken coops, wheat fields, and bike lanes.
Construction on city streets takes forever. Am I the only one that thinks they are doing it backwards much of the time? Put it in, rip it out, put it in, rip it out, put it in again...
Miscellaneous wastes of taxpayer money.

[!Yaminashi]

Besides my dislike for the mediocre weather, this pretty much sums up my thoughts

Housing prices seem barely attainable even with a dual income.
Taxes are expensive. We get dinged when we earn money, then get dinged when we spend it again.
Gas is expensive.
Everything is expensive.
Homeless people. I just don't like them, no offense to you if you are homeless.
Traffic is stupid during rush hour.
Mayor McChicken is a joke with his riot, chicken coops, wheat fields, and bike lanes.
Construction on city streets takes forever. Am I the only one that thinks they are doing it backwards much of the time? Put it in, rip it out, put it in, rip it out, put it in again...
Miscellaneous wastes of taxpayer money.

[unit]

whats so great about hong kong

-WAY uglier girls

FTFY

[Marco911]

the only thing i wish we had in vancouver is the victoria museum other than that vancouver is already too much of an artsy-hipster locale (and this from a guy who loves museums galleries)

if you want something with a rich historical collection of art.. well what do you expect? you're going to have to go to a city with a long history.
Vancouver hasn't been around for hundreds/thousands of years like some places...

but if you still insisted in comparing to a place like Paris/London/NY... look at the population differences... percentage wise i wouldn't be surprised if we exceeded what you could find in those cities...

It's not just museums. How about theatre? How about a real arts scene? Having hipster locals shopping at American Apparel and playing with their iPads at Starbucks does not count as an Arts scene.

The elites of the world simply do not choose Vancouver as a city to relocate or live in. They may have a holiday home where they spend a week or two of the year, but that's about it.

[elwell]

love everything here except for the drivers. this city is wonderful other than that

[StylinRed]

It's not just museums. How about theatre? How about a real arts scene? Having hipster locals shopping at American Apparel and playing with their iPads at Starbucks does not count as an Arts scene.

We have our theatres/ theatre groups/ a very large arts scene but...

Im speaking in terms of scale here if we had 8-11 more million people in our population like NYC or Paris the various different scenes would be far more developed but based on our size I don't think you can discredit what is here

heck I don't think you can really discredit what is here even when ignoring the population differences equivalencies are apparent but there's a more laid back tone to them ;)


As for the remark of Elites, they live where they work; unless you mean the true elites (multi billionaires) they live where they grew up and bring their work home :)
(gates; buffet; tata; slim; arnault; etc)

[LiquidTurbo]

A lotta whiners in here...

[Everymans]

my biggest hates
-Expensive to live here.
-too many hills make walking and biking difficult.
-The night life is incredibly meh.
-All of the underground construction/patchy paving jobs in this city makes for some really uncomfortable roads. But every canadian city has road issues, hell every city on earth has road issues in one way or another.

To everyone who complains about the bad drivers, try living in a different city. Every metropolis has terrible drivers or terrible infrastructure. There is no perfect road or transit system on this planet, nor is there a perfect place for drivers either.

[Tapioca]

whats so great about hong kong

-crowded
-hot
-polluted
-no skiing/snowboarding/outdoor activities/climbing
-uglier girls (on average)

The people who don't appreciate the outdoors and clean air could care less about pollution because they probably like to spend their time indoors in malls, restaurants, at home, etc. Air conditioning works wonders. As much as we identify ourselves as enjoying the outdoors, half the people in Metro Vancouver look like they barely climb any stairs on a regular basis.

Some people like fast-paced cities. I enjoy them myself.

I will agree that HK has uglier girls on average. But, as I mentioned, there's always Macau or Shenzhen if you want to have a good time.

[Meowjin]

ALR and dumb building bylaws. We will never be a real city if we are attached to houses. We needed to expand out of DT and make this city real. We are keeping prices artificially high for no reason.

[StylinRed]

even if you're indoors the air is still polluted in HK no matter how much you filter ;)



ALR

I h8 how its handled theres almost no point to it since someone can easily get a plot of land removed from the ALR

[Meowjin]

look at all the blueberry farms in richmond... lol at the mansions on them.

[txv604]

All the wannabe high-school gangsters thinking they're cool wearing North Face bomber jackets during the summer season and Christian Audigay...

[twitchyzero]

Wow, you really need to travel because this statement is brutally false.

can't thank you..but considering Vancouver being pretty multicultural the food actually isn't.

[Marco911]

We have our theatres/ theatre groups/ a very large arts scene but...

Im speaking in terms of scale here if we had 8-11 more million people in our population like NYC or Paris the various different scenes would be far more developed but based on our size I don't think you can discredit what is here



In Van, it's a small group of people that go to all the cultural events. It's just not the city's culture like it is in Paris, London or NY. Vancouverites just do not have the sophistication that you see in some major cities.


heck I don't think you can really discredit what is here even when ignoring the population differences equivalencies are apparent but there's a more laid back tone to them ;)


The difference is not because Vancouver has a small population. Copenhagen has a bigger cultural scene than Vancouver.



As for the remark of Elites, they live where they work; unless you mean the true elites (multi billionaires) they live where they grew up and bring their work home :)
(gates; buffet; tata; slim; arnault; etc)

Until Vancouver can start attracting elites to live and work here, I would not consider it a world-class city.

[Jgresch]

I don't know how I make it through the day speaking only english and french..

:seriously:

French? :fuckthatshit:
EOL
english only language

[1exotic]

not enough black people (need more)

[MindBomber]

You know what I really truly hate about Vancouver, it's filled with people who love to complain.

There's the constant discussion about housing prices being to expensive, but everyone expects a large home in the perfect location for an affordable price. You can buy a house in Abbotsford for the same price as a condo in Burnaby, just be realistic and prioritize. Location or space, pick one.

Not enough of an art culture in Vancouver, the reason for that is simple, our city is young and not positioned to have a large art culture. If Vancouver weren't surrounded with some of the best terrain in the world I'm certain we would have a more prominent art culture, but instead we have an athletic out doors scene. That said, I've been to many art galleries in Vancouver and always enjoyed myself.

[StylinRed]

In Van, it's a small group of people that go to all the cultural events. It's just not the city's culture like it is in Paris, London or NY. Vancouverites just do not have the sophistication that you see in some major cities.

age n size



The difference is not because Vancouver has a small population. Copenhagen has a bigger cultural scene than Vancouver.


Copenhagen is also over 1000 years old thats over 800years to develop that scene... and it was also around through the ages in which the arts were reborn and refined...



Until Vancouver can start attracting elites to live and work here, I would not consider it a world-class city.

you act like there aren't any... and when you consider the costs to stay here you would have to be... and its not like major corps dont have officers here.... (but i dont consider that a requirement to be considered world-class anyway, especially considering most cities in the USA with a say Fortune500 corp HQ are crap)

[gars]

Vancouver isn't even as old as we say we are. We can talk about how we are 125 years old with all the celebrations this summer - but really, we didn't start "growing up" until the last 20 years.

Before Expo '86, we were a bunch of tree hugging hippies, without much infrastructure. It's only really in the past few decades, did we really start developing into more of a metropolis.

I agree to a lot of what people say about how Vancouver doesn't have the same amount of culture as other cities around the world, but we do have amazing art at the same time - some amazing festivals, some amazing local artists, some amazing amateur theatre productions around the city.

[Culverin]

They can "fix" the transportation infrastructure situation and with proper sustainable planning by densifying and growing vertically.

This city has the potential to be so kick ass in 20 years.
I just hope I'm around to see it.

[325isMSPORT]

our roads and speed limits

[SkinnyPupp]

if more "cultural elite" people in Vancouver means more pretentious douchebags like marco991 I think it's better the way it is. Down to Earth people are infinitely more interesting to talk to and get to know.
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[Marco911]

if more "cultural elite" people in Vancouver means more pretentious douchebags like marco991 I think it's better the way it is. Down to Earth people are infinitely more interesting to talk to and get to know.
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If by "pretentious douchebag" you mean that I'm cultured and sophisticated, I'll take that as a compliment.

Seriously, Vancouverites are anal and not at all down to earth. They practically froth at the mouth whenever someone has a nice car and deigns to drive it the way it was designed to be driven. There is no fashion. No art. No joie de vivre.

[Meowjin]

noone gives a shit if your sophisticated or culture because it will still come down as douchey.

[SkinnyPupp]

No, by pretentious douchebag, I meant the type of person would take being called a pretentious douchebag as a compliment somehow :)

[achiam]

Wow, you really need to travel because this statement is brutally false.

Really? I've traveled and lived outside of Canada for many years and still hold this to be true.... SE Asia has extremely cheap and delicious food as well, but most would agree it's much dirtier....

[MindBomber]

No, by pretentious douchebag, I meant the type of person would take being called a pretentious douchebag as a compliment somehow :)

Not only is Marco pretentious, he's also a contrarian.

I'm certain somehow he'll also take that as a compliment, seeing as that's inverse of the intention.


Seriously, Vancouverites are anal and not at all down to earth. They practically froth at the mouth whenever someone has a nice car and deigns to drive it the way it was designed to be driven. There is no fashion. No art. No joie de vivre.

Anal about what exactly, I have never viewed Vancouverites as a whole to be obsessive or overly detail oriented?

While reading an automotive forum, it makes sense that individuals feign over pictures of exotic cars. I have yet to witness a Vancouverite having any more than a subtle reaction to exotic car in person.

There is a limited number of high end fashion retailers in Vancouver, but again, that comes down to population size. A city of 2.5 million people cannot support the same number of retailers in that niche market as larger American cities, that's a simple fact.

Vancouver has an art scene with enough depth for all but pompous aficionados of self-importance to enjoy. Of course, it does not compare to Paris, London or New York but with a fifth of the population and several centuries of catching up to do I would consider it more than respectable. If Vancouver has no art, what exactly is being displayed in this short list of galleries?

Jacana Contemporary Art
Vancouver Art Gallery
Bau-Xi Gallery
Vancouver Contemporary Art Gallery
Dianne Farris Gallery
Monte Clark Gallery
Bill Reid Gallery
Lattimer Gallery
Douglas Reynolds Gallery

The joie de vivre I feel living in Vancouver is immense, I can only attribute that to the incredible beauty that surrounds the city in every direction and that is of a far higher importance to myself than any superficial complaints. As stated earlier in this thread, where else can you go snow boarding and visit an ocean beach in the same day.

[minoru_tanaka]

Before Expo '86, we were a bunch of tree hugging hippies, without much infrastructure. It's only really in the past few decades, did we really start developing into more of a metropolis.

If by tree hugging, you mean we hugged them to death then OK.

[mb_]

I don't really hate anything about or city.. We don't live in a perfect world so there's always something to bitch about.

[Meowjin]

vancouver has a different art scene. This city spawns a lot of musicians.

[Yuffa]

People like you who make threads about hating your own city.

[doma]

ITT: complainers complaining about complainers.

idiots.

[drunkrussian]

pretending your city and culture has absolutely no flaws and is the best is called communism. actually maybe even totalitarianism. those of u who are saying people are pathetic for "whining" are the true sheep.
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[Everymans]

Vancouver isn't even as old as we say we are. We can talk about how we are 125 years old with all the celebrations this summer - but really, we didn't start "growing up" until the last 20 years.

Before Expo '86, we were a bunch of tree hugging hippies, without much infrastructure. It's only really in the past few decades, did we really start developing into more of a metropolis.

I agree to a lot of what people say about how Vancouver doesn't have the same amount of culture as other cities around the world, but we do have amazing art at the same time - some amazing festivals, some amazing local artists, some amazing amateur theatre productions around the city.

I'd say Vancouver has the second largest amount of culture in this country. If you've ever lived in edmonton, saskatoon, regina, winnipeg, calgary, halifax, ottawa, or st.johns then you would know what I'm talking about. But obviously it doesn't compare to some of the world cities already listed in this thread.

It is also good to note that vancouver was barely a blip on the radar 20 years ago. Amazing how much this city has developed in the last 10 years alone. Yaletown didn't even exist! More then half the cities skyscrapers weren't even in planning mode.

[6insomnia9]

The unapproachable women

[Happy]

the drivers :heckno:

[Tapioca]

I'd say Vancouver has the second largest amount of culture in this country. If you've ever lived in edmonton, saskatoon, regina, winnipeg, calgary, halifax, ottawa, or st.johns then you would know what I'm talking about. But obviously it doesn't compare to some of the world cities already listed in this thread.

Vancouver should be 4th or 5th. Montreal has the most, Toronto is probably 2nd and I would say that Ottawa would be 3rd.

[drunkrussian]

^heard good things about calgary. heard ottawa was boring tho
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[will068]

The unapproachable women


IMHO, it forces you to step up your game further. When you go to other countries with the creative things you learned to do approach/impress women here, you're unstoppable.

[Everymans]

^heard good things about calgary. heard ottawa was boring tho
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Calgary is nothing but suburbs and one dimensional oil tycoons. They spawned nickelback which is a pretty big representation of their culture. Ottawa is about as exciting as a block of wood.

[tiger_handheld]

people who don't appreciate what this city offers.
i hate some cyclists - but i'm glad for the good roads.
i hate the rain - but im glad when it turns into snow and the mountains are my playground.
etc..etc..

[Sid Vicious]

my biggest hates
-Expensive to live here.
-too many hills make walking and biking difficult.
-The night life is incredibly meh.
-All of the underground construction/patchy paving jobs in this city makes for some really uncomfortable roads. But every canadian city has road issues, hell every city on earth has road issues in one way or another.

To everyone who complains about the bad drivers, try living in a different city. Every metropolis has terrible drivers or terrible infrastructure. There is no perfect road or transit system on this planet, nor is there a perfect place for drivers either.

yea itd probably be pretty hard to ride your bike with your yeast infection

[dignatas]

Not only is Marco pretentious, he's also a contrarian.

I'm certain somehow he'll also take that as a compliment, seeing as that's inverse of the intention.



Anal about what exactly, I have never viewed Vancouverites as a whole to be obsessive or overly detail oriented?

While reading an automotive forum, it makes sense that individuals feign over pictures of exotic cars. I have yet to witness a Vancouverite having any more than a subtle reaction to exotic car in person.

There is a limited number of high end fashion retailers in Vancouver, but again, that comes down to population size. A city of 2.5 million people cannot support the same number of retailers in that niche market as larger American cities, that's a simple fact.

Vancouver has an art scene with enough depth for all but pompous aficionados of self-importance to enjoy. Of course, it does not compare to Paris, London or New York but with a fifth of the population and several centuries of catching up to do I would consider it more than respectable. If Vancouver has no art, what exactly is being displayed in this short list of galleries?

Jacana Contemporary Art
Vancouver Art Gallery
Bau-Xi Gallery
Vancouver Contemporary Art Gallery
Dianne Farris Gallery
Monte Clark Gallery
Bill Reid Gallery
Lattimer Gallery
Douglas Reynolds Gallery

The joie de vivre I feel living in Vancouver is immense, I can only attribute that to the incredible beauty that surrounds the city in every direction and that is of a far higher importance to myself than any superficial complaints. As stated earlier in this thread, where else can you go snow boarding and visit an ocean beach in the same day.
wow never knew people know about the bau-xi gallery..... i am great friends with the chinese owner and he is a wonderful man and I am glad to see it's name here :)

+thanks

[drunkrussian]

Calgary is nothing but suburbs and one dimensional oil tycoons. They spawned nickelback which is a pretty big representation of their culture. Ottawa is about as exciting as a block of wood.

lol that's definitely what i always thought about calgary, but some friends moved there and it completely changed their mind. So i was wondering if it's one of those places that everyone thinks sucks, but is actually pretty decent. I just don't see that with ottawa though, as a government town :-p

100000% agree on nickelback lol

[Yuffa]

^Anywhere can become relatively decent if you are making good $$.

[quasi]

most white people are forced out to live by themselves after age of 18, when they cannot afford rent they move to other provinces

I don't think this is true it's a choice for the most part. Most parents I know would tell there kids go to school or get a job and pay rent but not all. I was never forced out of my parents house and I was never asked to pay rent but I choose to leave around 20. I think generally speaking caucasian children aren't as reliant on their parents as say asians or EI's which is why you see them moving out earlier. There are always exceptions to the rule though on either side of the coin.

Most of my friends are white and none of them moved out at 18 or to a different province because he couldn't afford to live on his own.