[VrrM604]

http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/01-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/05-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/48-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/61-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/07-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/ca.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/42-2012-bmw-m5-fd.jpg

- 4.4-litre M Twin Power Turbo V8
- 553 hp between 6,000 and 7,000 rpm
- 502 lb-ft between 1,500 and 5,750 rpm
- 0 to 60 mph run in 4.3 seconds
- Nürburgring in 7:55

More photos and review (including video):
2012 BMW M5 [w/video] — Autoblog Canada (http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/09/22/2012-bmw-m5-w-video/)

Gonna be awesome
:fuckyea:

[GG]

hmm interior looks the same

[Rich Sandor]

looks very nice... but.. i think i still like the e39 the most for some reason..

[Vale46Rossi]

The exterior is a disappoint.

[GDChoi]

curious to see what that button under the start button is

[Zyzz]

E60 M5 looks better

[.Renn.Sport]

curious to see what that button under the start button is

engine start/stop

[Qmx323]

I like the rear end, but the front needs to be a bit more aggressive.

Butterface with a nice ass I guess.

[604_EJ1]

Ew. Bring back E60
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[vitaminG]

the new engine is pretty cool, the exhaust manifold is inside the vee and it has no throttle bodies

http://www.bmwse.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/c86eb_4c59d569-849b-84b0.jpg

What most folks have not realized so far are the extensive modifications BMW has made to the F10 M5 engine. We point those out for you below, referencing BMW’s released info. Compared to the S85 engine of the E60 M5, BMW claims that “VALVETRONIC has also sharpened the responsiveness of this engine [S63Tü].

Here are the highlights of the new M5’s S63Tu engine and how it’s different from the S63 engine used for the X5 M and X6 M.

Two more innovations of the S63Tü:

- Innovative solenoid valve injectors in the new BMW M5 engine use multiple injections to achieve an extremely precise mixture preparation.

- VALVETRONIC
This is the biggest difference. As BMW puts it:

“Throughout each of its four previous generations, the heart of the BMW M5 has been its high-revving, high output-per-liter engine fed by individual throttle plates.

The new M5 engine introduces VALVETRONIC variable valve control system for the first time on a BMW M engine – effectively providing 16 individual throttles.

VALVETRONIC is BMW’s patented fully variable valve control system that eliminates the need for conventional throttles. Engine power is instead controlled directly by varying the amount of lift of the intake valves. Throttle losses in the gas cycle are minimized with this system, which has a positive impact on both the efficiency and torque. VALVETRONIC has also sharpened the responsiveness of this engine compared to the V10 engine it replaces.”

[Harvey Specter]

Post the link for the actual car in real life, not promo shots;

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578868&d=1315927915

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578909&d=1315928818

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578910&d=1315928818

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578917&d=1315928818

2011 Frankfurt: F10 M5 Debuts in Alpine White, Moonstone, and Monte Carlo Blue - 2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 (http://www.admail.net/url/911117/8a2fa/)

I think it looks stunning.

[ALEX1988]

E39>f10>e60

[LP700-4]

curious to see what that button under the start button is

engine start/stop

:fulloffuck::seriously:

Anyways i think its the door lock button...

EDIT: Found a bigger picture, still dont know what the logo is
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/f10-m5-discussion/136221d1308493141-interiour-pics-high-resolution-bmw-m5-f10-production-version-14_1920x1200_bmw_f10m.jpg
Click for Hi-Res

[!SG]

bmw training on explaining valve tronic was kinda cool.

instead of a set lifter, the lifter is on cog arc, so depending at where it is on that arc, depends how long and how high the valve is lifted.

[Lomac]

Best looking M5 since the E39. I've hated the look of every single M5 since then. M5's should be about understated power, not over the top, in your face crap. That's what the M3 is for.

Now if only they'd get rid of that stupid front fender vent...

[rawr]

I don't care if this has more power and has a more usable powerband. I'd still rather get a screaming V10 with a 8250 rpm redline. RIP S85 :alone:

[donjalapeno]

the rims on the blue one look cheap

[Vale46Rossi]

:fulloffuck::seriously:

Anyways i think its the door lock button...

EDIT: Found a bigger picture, still dont know what the logo is
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/f10-m5-discussion/136221d1308493141-interiour-pics-high-resolution-bmw-m5-f10-production-version-14_1920x1200_bmw_f10m.jpg
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looks like traction control off

[dangonay]

I like the engine, but don't like the fact they use air/water intercoolers, even though they basically doubled the size.
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[!SG]

its a circular arrow around a triangle, should be traction control off button (instead of a button with DSC on it) but then, i think they relabelled it from DSC to something i think... forgot

http://toddsmods.com/media/dsc_off2.gif

:fulloffuck::seriously:

Anyways i think its the door lock button...

EDIT: Found a bigger picture, still dont know what the logo is
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/f10-m5-discussion/136221d1308493141-interiour-pics-high-resolution-bmw-m5-f10-production-version-14_1920x1200_bmw_f10m.jpg
Click for Hi-Res

[ALEX1988]

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/f10-m5-discussion/136221d1308493141-interiour-pics-high-resolution-bmw-m5-f10-production-version-14_1920x1200_bmw_f10m.jpg
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http://f10.5post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=498114&stc=1&d=1300447474
There u go!
It's the auto start stop button.

[Over9000]

new cars are packed with so much technology it's :fulloffuck:

back in the days we thought we had to turbo time cars but now they engine start-stop turbo cars at the light, wassup with that doc?

[Zyzz]

Best looking M5 since the E39. I've hated the look of every single M5 since then. M5's should be about understated power, not over the top, in your face crap. That's what the M3 is for.

Now if only they'd get rid of that stupid front fender vent...

they are not targeting you to buy a m5 anyways

[flagella]

thought we had a thread on this already. Exterior looks so weak. I'd still prefer V10.

[Lomac]

they are not targeting you to buy a m5 anyways

:rolleyes:

You've no idea what I can or can't buy.

Besides, who says one can't have an opinion on a vehicle if you're not their "target audience?"

[Rich Sandor]

I like the engine, but don't like the fact they use air/water intercoolers, even though they basically doubled the size.
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okay, I'll bite. what's your beef with water to air coolers?

[Shorn]

the front looks not bad.. but the rear looks amazing:


http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578896&d=1315928180

[CharlieH]

thought we had a thread on this already. Exterior looks so weak. I'd still prefer V10.

meh... the v10s cool at first but then you start missing low end torque. put a high revving motor in the m3, and give the m5/6 a grunty v8 and we're set. the v10 with an exhaust does sound great though.

[JoshuaWong]

Its probably a better car in every aspect other than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCtJVbJEHZg

[dangonay]

okay, I'll bite. what's your beef with water to air coolers?
Less efficient than air/air intercoolers. Air/water intercoolers by themselves are far more efficient than air/air intercoolers could ever be. But air/water intercoolers are part of a closed system, and this system will have lower overall efficiency than a pure air/air intercooler would.

[q0192837465]

I think it looks too tamed for an M5. But still
stunning nonetheless

[Iron Chef]

I think the main reason they used air/water is mainly for packaging. It makes the engines very modular.

Long gone are the days of NA motors. When you factor in the emissions and fuel ecconomy they they have to achieve with horse power forced induction is the only way to go.

[C63jai]

Post the link for the actual car in real life, not promo shots;

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578910&d=1315928818

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=578917&d=1315928818

2011 Frankfurt: F10 M5 Debuts in Alpine White, Moonstone, and Monte Carlo Blue - 2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 (http://www.admail.net/url/911117/8a2fa/)

I think it looks stunning.

haha white is definitely stunning, Im sure after a drop and new shoes the car will be gorgeous

[StylinRed]

looks great as a 5 Series looks ho-hum as an M imo

lots n lots of promo shots here hi-res

http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2012-m5/

[Rich Sandor]

Less efficient than air/air intercoolers. Air/water intercoolers by themselves are far more efficient than air/air intercoolers could ever be. But air/water intercoolers are part of a closed system, and this system will have lower overall efficiency than a pure air/air intercooler would.

I'm not sure I agree. The air in the intercooler gets quite a bit hotter than the temperature of the engine coolant. Since air/water is several hundred times more efficient than air/air, the water doesn't have to be much cooler than the air in order to remain more efficient than an air/air system.

FYI Ford has an air/water intercooler in the 6.7L diesel, and I've bought used ex-Nascar air/water coolers off ebay, and that's for non-turbo engines that don't even get as hot at turbo'd engine.

Clearly it must be a superior system otherwise there is no way Ford would spend the money to implement it, especially without advertising it they they do with direction injection, for example.

[.Renn.Sport]

:fulloffuck::seriously:

Anyways i think its the door lock button...


hey dumbfuck, maybe go drive some newer luxury car with the idle stop function before failing me :stfu:

[TOPEC]

the new engine is pretty cool, the exhaust manifold is inside the vee and it has no throttle bodies

they've been doing that since the intro of the 4.4 TT V8

[dangonay]

I'm not sure I agree. The air in the intercooler gets quite a bit hotter than the temperature of the engine coolant. Since air/water is several hundred times more efficient than air/air, the water doesn't have to be much cooler than the air in order to remain more efficient than an air/air system.

FYI Ford has an air/water intercooler in the 6.7L diesel, and I've bought used ex-Nascar air/water coolers off ebay, and that's for non-turbo engines that don't even get as hot at turbo'd engine.

Clearly it must be a superior system otherwise there is no way Ford would spend the money to implement it, especially without advertising it they they do with direction injection, for example.
Don't want to jack this thread, so perhaps we could start a new thread to discuss this specific issue - I'm sure some turbo guys would be interested.

[!Aznboi128]

hey dumbfuck, maybe go drive some newer luxury car with the idle stop function before failing me :stfu:
altho this function will be big in UK, and HK most NA cars will not have this function. ex. the new 911 will not have the stop start, the panamera neither does a whole lot of bmw and merc

[Over9000]

^ coz Americans panic if their cars stall out at the lights? LOL

[!Aznboi128]

^ more like we wanna hear the sound of the engine growl even at a light, rather then sitting in silence.....

[Iron Chef]

start/stop technology is definitely being phazed in by all manufactures. Mercs are starting to roll in into there line up. Fuel economy is a huge priority for all manufactures

[Lomac]

I haven't driven a car with stop/start yet. Is there a pause between hitting the accelerator and the car actually moving? Or is it basically instantaneous?
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[CharlieH]

^

drove a new e-class in europe with it, and there is a slight pause but nothing too noticeable. it literally cranks for a split second and you're off.

[turbomelon]

anyone read that jalopnik article about how bmw is going to use fake electronic engine noises (ala soundracer) pumped through the interior speakers to make up for the lack of engine noise in the cabin?

New BMW M5 fakes its engine noise for your pleasure (http://jalopnik.com/5843332/new-bmw-m5-fakes-its-engine-noise-for-your-pleasure)

[6insomnia9]

The E60 M5 is still the best/greatest car i have ever driven.

[vitaminG]

anyone read that jalopnik article about how bmw is going to use fake electronic engine noises (ala soundracer) pumped through the interior speakers to make up for the lack of engine noise in the cabin?

New BMW M5 fakes its engine noise for your pleasure (http://jalopnik.com/5843332/new-bmw-m5-fakes-its-engine-noise-for-your-pleasure)

lol, ya wtf is that. Why would i want to hear a digital replica of my engine through my cars speakers. Thats gotta be one of the riciest features available in a new car.

[L-Dawg]

^ more like we wanna hear the sound of the engine growl even at a light, rather then sitting in silence.....

That's ok, you can still hear the engine:

Active Sound Design enhances V8 burble inside BMW M5 — Autoblog Canada (http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/09/23/active-sound-design-enhances-v8-burble-inside-bmw-m5/)

[.Renn.Sport]

altho this function will be big in UK, and HK most NA cars will not have this function. ex. the new 911 will not have the stop start, the panamera neither does a whole lot of bmw and merc

:failed:

the new 991 will have auto start stop and last I check on my Panamera, auto start/stop is standard and its off by default.

and pretty much all BMW since 2011 have auto start/stop as standard including the E92 M3 in NORTH AMERICA

[Y2K_o__o]

new cars are packed with so much technology it's :fulloffuck:

back in the days we thought we had to turbo time cars but now they engine start-stop turbo cars at the light, wassup with that doc?

totally agree !
all the new fancy items add weight to the car
end up with bigger engine, burning even more fuel, more parts can go wrong, higher repair bills
I wish car nowadays can be as simple as cars made in 90s

:fulloffuck: :fulloffuck: :fulloffuck:

[EndLeSS8]

Are you some sort of an idiot? This thread is from 2011 :facepalm:

[flagella]

He's definitely one sort of an idiot. A fucking moron.

[kkthind]

strong bump, 10/10 would read again :pokerface: