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instantneedles
09-30-2011, 03:03 PM
How many of you guys work while you study? If you do, what job do you do and how many hours do you work? How do you prioritize your time during exam time? I work parttime at a drugstore and it seems as if I have no social life because I'm always busy studying or working
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Phozy
09-30-2011, 03:08 PM
I have a brother and cousin in the same situation. The way i see them handle it : they have at least one day in the week they don't work or study. Usually that ends up being a saturday or sunday, sometimes Friday nights. When they're out Friday night, they study the next day, and work the day after.
TBH though, its okay to put work on a low priority. School is your main goal, and if you feel like life sucks because work is taking up some time, how are you going to get the motivation to keep studying? You work to make money ; you gotta find some time to use that money for yourself, for some refreshments and a night out. Just gotta find a balance, but dont let the fun take over and mess with your studies. Work has its time, studying has its time, and so does fun.

!Yaminashi
09-30-2011, 03:29 PM
^Agreed, I dont know anyone that can study non-stop. Everyone needs to get out and relax once in a while

jtanner_
09-30-2011, 03:29 PM
I work 50ish hours a week while FT school. I've worked full time since I was in grade 10 or so and it's pretty routine at this point to be honest. Currently my schedule consists of work mon/weds/fri/sat/sun and school on Tuesdays and Thursdays. It really takes a lot of commitment to both work and school and a fair amount of time management if you want to juggle a social life. My shifts are early (7-4) and working downtown and living in surrey means I have to wake up around 5-5:30 am. I find on average I get around 4 hours of sleep, which is also routine at this point.

I try to manage the girl I'm seeing in the evenings while finding time for the gym and studies or errands. It's really hard to find a balance, but once you've got a schedule if you're okay with routine then it's not that bad.
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instantneedles
09-30-2011, 03:43 PM
Holy shit, you guys are machines....but wait u only doin twO days of school so that's different.,, I go to ubc and I go to skool mon-fri and I commute their which takes 3 hours there and back daily.
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DragonChi
09-30-2011, 03:56 PM
I tried to do school and work. It wasn't for me.

I had to choose one or the other. Eventually I was lucky enough to do both one at a time.

Nlkko
09-30-2011, 04:15 PM
You need to balance. Too much work and you'd be too tired to turn the pages of the textbook. I go out Friday night and occasionally have the whole Saturday for trips and such.

If you work, you better not procrastinate because that's setting sail for fail. Don't skip classes, pay attention in classes an there won't be much material to study come exam time. Also one of the most important thing is keep yourself in shape.

maxxxboost
09-30-2011, 05:26 PM
I work 28ish hours a week and i school full time. My courses are at night so i usually got to class after work. The days i don't work i study till class starts.

For you to work and study, i think a flexible schedule and a good employer that understands your needs goes a long way.

I also agree with what some other people say. Work is just that; work. If it is not your career then maybe its time to work fewer hours.

Do what you think is a good balance between work/school/social life. One will always get the shaft but do what you can.

jtanner_
09-30-2011, 05:51 PM
Holy shit, you guys are machines....but wait u only doin twO days of school so that's different.,, I go to ubc and I go to skool mon-fri and I commute their which takes 3 hours there and back daily.
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Part of that is being able to "effectively" plan your courses... For the last 4 semesters now i've been able to take 4 courses over the span of 2 days. Granted, they're fucking LONG days.

Fafine
09-30-2011, 06:03 PM
tried working ft and going to school this semester. basically work 7 days a week, and school was mtwt fridays off. some classes ended at 10 and the other ones ended no later than 1250 then headed straight to work. work until 8-9pm everyday. had no time to study because if i took a day off work, i'd be real behind at work. and when i get home at 930 or so, am just too tired to be studying.
so i had to drop courses and work this semester and have enough cash to not work at all next semester.
i handled 20-30 hours of work and ft school no problem though.

roflwaffle604
09-30-2011, 07:40 PM
i do school mon-weds, work thurs-sat. go out sat night and sunday. everything in between is school work. holding up pretty well so far this semester.

work is ~16-20hrs a week

tiger_handheld
09-30-2011, 08:06 PM
worked pt since I was 16 . so thats highschool. after that worked about 25hrs for most part of university , then worked ft.

Phozy
09-30-2011, 08:06 PM
My goodness jtanner_, you just might be fucking with your health with the long days and lack of sleep. I applaud you, really, freaking dedication and commitment, persistent, and all of that other shit.

Energy
09-30-2011, 08:40 PM
I go to school full time and work for 12-16hrs/wk and find that manageable. That many hours does not affect my grades but if I work 20hrs or more then it definitely will. You just need to balance it out.

TRDood
09-30-2011, 10:25 PM
I used to work+school in university for about 5 years, full course load and 20-30 hours of work a week. I was a teller so the job was quite brainless and not physically demanding. It was quite enjoyable. It really depends what stage of life you are in at that moment. If you are an university student, obviously it's school first, work second.

Switch it around. Now that I have graduated and work full time, where I have to use my brain to read and write everyday in the office, I think it will be really hard for me to concentrate on school material after an exhausting day of work.

This is why I think the CASB program could be tough. I see people work 8-5 everyday and still have to do homework after work. Every few months there would be module exams. To me, that's a new level of toughness when it's work first, school second. If you fail a particular course or exam, it reflects negatively on your professional abilities.

I am not an accountant but many people I know are accountants.

EvoFire
10-01-2011, 01:37 AM
+1 about finding an employer that understands.

I've been doing around 30hrs a week on top of a 4 course 13-15 credit load for the last 2 years. Sometimes its not pretty especially when I procrastinate (like right now, I have an essay and some Econ assignments due and I am on RS).

It all started out as a part time job a few years ago for 2 days a week then my manager wanted more hours. Then more hours.... Then 3rd and 4th year courses came along. Somewhere along the line I made enough to pay tuition for one semester, since I made so much I was rejected for loans therefore I ended up working more to pay for school, food, social life, and the car. Right now its 4 days school, 4 days work a week for me. Yeah it overlaps a bit, has been worse before. When exams come around I get my days off to study and day off for actual exam. Manager is nice enough to always give the day before an exam off, more if I request for it.

Social life is pretty much gone. I have time for either school, work, or girlfriend. If I wanted to hang out with friends it would be way after hours. Well, I would have a social life if I didn't have a girlfriend, kinda had to pick one or another since I didn't have enough time for both.

tiger_handheld
10-01-2011, 09:03 AM
This is why I think the CASB program could be tough. I see people work 8-5 everyday and still have to do homework after work. Every few months there would be module exams. To me, that's a new level of toughness when it's work first, school second. If you fail a particular course or exam, it reflects negatively on your professional abilities.

I am not an accountant but many people I know are accountants.

I start this lifestyle on October 17.

twitchyzero
10-01-2011, 10:46 AM
lol holy shit at jtanner's 50 hours of work while full-time studies
those 4 hour sleep and 18 hour days are only possible because we are still young eh

I'm roughly 30+ hours school/15-20 hours of work
I try my best to study on a weekly basis...not working so well just yet this year

Meowjin
10-01-2011, 12:32 PM
work 2 jobs ~40 hours a week (hooray for 12 hour friday sat sundays) and go to school full time. There are lots of guys that do what me and jtanner do, its just that most people on this site are spoiled asian kids.

Phozy
10-01-2011, 12:55 PM
^ :okay:, maybe i am getting to that..

areyounoob
10-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Work Monday-Saturday 5pm-9pm
School Monday-Thursday from 9am-4pm

Definitely manageable. Though I do plan on easing off the job really soon.

wuuhoo
10-01-2011, 01:33 PM
I work 50ish hours a week while FT school. I've worked full time since I was in grade 10 or so and it's pretty routine at this point to be honest. Currently my schedule consists of work mon/weds/fri/sat/sun and school on Tuesdays and Thursdays. It really takes a lot of commitment to both work and school and a fair amount of time management if you want to juggle a social life. My shifts are early (7-4) and working downtown and living in surrey means I have to wake up around 5-5:30 am. I find on average I get around 4 hours of sleep, which is also routine at this point.

I try to manage the girl I'm seeing in the evenings while finding time for the gym and studies or errands. It's really hard to find a balance, but once you've got a schedule if you're okay with routine then it's not that bad.
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HOLY thats impressive. To be honest I want something along the lines of what you have. ~ Not to the extreme of working 50 hrs a week though.

I am currently trying to balance things right now. But hopefully something like yours soon minus the extreme hrs

Phozy
10-01-2011, 02:54 PM
Just watched the movie "The Mechanic."

One of the points/quote i got from the movie : Victory Loves Preperation

Figured its relative, because fitting in such a busy life, like jtanner and many others, you must prepare, plan, and things will roll a lot smoother.

Meowjin
10-01-2011, 05:37 PM
lol @ the fail. Admit it, this site has the most laziest, spoonfed asian kids ever. They expect everything done from them and have probably never worked a day in there life.

twitchyzero
10-01-2011, 05:42 PM
work 2 jobs ~40 hours a week (hooray for 12 hour friday sat sundays) and go to school full time. There are lots of guys that do what me and jtanner do, its just that most people on this site are spoiled asian kids.

I applaud you for your hard work and dedication. But just because someone who doesn't works F/T and studies F/T at the same time and sleep less than 5 hours each day doesn't mean they are spoiled...

I forgot where I read the article but I think over 10 hours work/week has a positive correlation with poorer grades. Also, full-time studies can really range from someone who's taking 3-4 classes that require them to write few papers each term then to say an engineering student who normally has to juggle 6 courses each term.

Meowjin
10-01-2011, 06:00 PM
Yeah except I don't have a home and I pay for my own shit including rent and food. I'm not going home to a home cooked meal and I have to work. If I had a choice and had parents who would cook for me and house me id take advatnage of it. I was shocked that people were suprised that someone works like that.

Also it helps if what your doing is relating to your career . I'd have a friend who worked 40 hours a week as an accountant while going to school for accounting. Now he's a CA for the big 4. You dont need a social life while in school. SCHOOL IS A SOCIAL LIFE.

instantneedles
10-04-2011, 03:00 PM
Yeah except I don't have a home and I pay for my own shit including rent and food. I'm not going home to a home cooked meal and I have to work. If I had a choice and had parents who would cook for me and house me id take advatnage of it. I was shocked that people were suprised that someone works like that.

Also it helps if what your doing is relating to your career . I'd have a friend who worked 40 hours a week as an accountant while going to school for accounting. Now he's a CA for the big 4. You dont need a social life while in school. SCHOOL IS A SOCIAL LIFE.

are we sure on that now? haha unless you think chatting with friends about the correct answer to an assignment, I wouldn't really think that way. You see, once your conversation goes beyond this border, you'll come to the unforgiving realization that you have wasted your time. Either you get straight to your homework, or you discuss about it. That's as efficient as it gets. As a first year, I'm an exception. But can't say the same for you 3rd year 4rth years here.

Meowjin
10-04-2011, 04:07 PM
Then don't go to fucking school if you can't handle work and school and stop complaining about it. Your not there to fucking have fun your there to get ahead in life.

PS: School's for networking, especially if you're taking arts/business.

cho
10-04-2011, 04:25 PM
i work 30 hours a week, and go to class for 8 hours a week

not toooooo bad

instantneedles
10-04-2011, 09:58 PM
Then don't go to fucking school if you can't handle work and school and stop complaining about it. Your not there to fucking have fun your there to get ahead in life.

PS: School's for networking, especially if you're taking arts/business.

Well yeah, there's no doubt about that. I'm still in the process of finding the right balance for everything. But out of curiousity, if school isn't your definition of fun, where and how do you make space out of your busy and "independent' schedule, for it? Part of networking is having the experience and knowledge for it, experience you can't simply get from socializing in school.

instantneedles
10-04-2011, 10:14 PM
work 2 jobs ~40 hours a week (hooray for 12 hour friday sat sundays) and go to school full time. There are lots of guys that do what me and jtanner do, its just that most people on this site are spoiled asian kids.


are you for reals? unless your jobs are super chill, or unless you are studying something super chill, theres no way having 2 jobs can be of benefit to anyone. Your marks will be affected in some way or the other. If you can't support your own education, there's something called a student loan. So go back under that bridge where you belong...

twitchyzero
10-05-2011, 12:17 AM
if you need to work 40 hours a week while in school you are probably living outside your means as a student

max student loans is more than enough to cover your average tuition costs as a domestic student...not to mention the bursaires a student in need is eligble for...if you are in an expensive professional school (>$20K/yr) then you probably need to take out student LoC

Meowjin
10-05-2011, 12:58 AM
Rent, food, gym, cell phone, insurance, gas, internet, money to go out, savings/rrsp.

When you live at home and you eat at home, life becomes that much more cheaper.

I don't have that luxury.

Instant: You just started school and you are 17-19 years old. If you honestly think this is hard, I can't wait to see what happens when you get older and have to support yourself. You work what, 1 job at 24 hours a week? Take out a loan then and don't work.

My prof does her PhD at ubc, teaches at langara, raise 3 kids, mark papers, cook dinner and shit.

So I don't believe this shit about not having enough time. Just some kids have it better than others.

Listen. If I fucking have time to work 40 hours a week, go to school and take 4 courses, have a social life, and still find time to study write papers and go to the gym, maybe you should look at yourself and see what you can do to better your life than making posts on revscene.

Prior to going to school I was working 64 hours a week and banking cash, and I still retained a social life! It just comes down to time managment.

edit: Might add I'm finishing up electives for nursing.

SUCCESS IS HOW BAD YOU FUCKING WANT IT AND NOT JUST SAYING YOU WANT IT.

twitchyzero
10-05-2011, 11:15 AM
savings as a student? :alone:

instantneedles
10-05-2011, 06:48 PM
Rent, food, gym, cell phone, insurance, gas, internet, money to go out, savings/rrsp.

When you live at home and you eat at home, life becomes that much more cheaper.

I don't have that luxury.

Instant: You just started school and you are 17-19 years old. If you honestly think this is hard, I can't wait to see what happens when you get older and have to support yourself. You work what, 1 job at 24 hours a week? Take out a loan then and don't work.

My prof does her PhD at ubc, teaches at langara, raise 3 kids, mark papers, cook dinner and shit.

So I don't believe this shit about not having enough time. Just some kids have it better than others.

Listen. If I fucking have time to work 40 hours a week, go to school and take 4 courses, have a social life, and still find time to study write papers and go to the gym, maybe you should look at yourself and see what you can do to better your life than making posts on revscene.

Prior to going to school I was working 64 hours a week and banking cash, and I still retained a social life! It just comes down to time managment.

edit: Might add I'm finishing up electives for nursing.

SUCCESS IS HOW BAD YOU FUCKING WANT IT AND NOT JUST SAYING YOU WANT IT.

Not trying to bash on you man, chill. Props to you if what you said is really true. It's a very hard lifestyle, not to mention a very unhealthy one. Not sure if you're Asian, but what you have to understand is, not all Asians that rely on support from their parents are "spoiled". Growing up, alot of these Asians had parents that were really protective of them and so they never really got the chance to become independent. Independency is a good thing in many aspects, it let's you discover who and what you really are. Some asian kids never really get a say in what they want or aim to study because they are pressured by their parents to go into "commerce" or "med school" or "law school". Independency is a gift given to you that not many people have the luxury of attaining. Don't get me wrong though, there are definitely alot of spoiled Asian kids out there that continue to leech off their parents even after graduating from university. Its just wrong to stereotype Asians who rely on their parents as being spoiled.
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Meowjin
10-05-2011, 07:03 PM
savings as a student? :alone:

I get 250 deducted from my paychecks a month and my company matches it.

Phozy
10-05-2011, 07:04 PM
I think what Majin is trying to say is that if he can do it, so can you. Everyone's got their obstacles in life, just do your best to get around them.

Rent, food, gym, cell phone, insurance, gas, internet, money to go out, savings/rrsp.

When you live at home and you eat at home, life becomes that much more cheaper.

I don't have that luxury.

Instant: You just started school and you are 17-19 years old. If you honestly think this is hard, I can't wait to see what happens when you get older and have to support yourself. You work what, 1 job at 24 hours a week? Take out a loan then and don't work.

My prof does her PhD at ubc, teaches at langara, raise 3 kids, mark papers, cook dinner and shit.

So I don't believe this shit about not having enough time. Just some kids have it better than others.

Listen. If I fucking have time to work 40 hours a week, go to school and take 4 courses, have a social life, and still find time to study write papers and go to the gym, maybe you should look at yourself and see what you can do to better your life than making posts on revscene.

Prior to going to school I was working 64 hours a week and banking cash, and I still retained a social life! It just comes down to time managment.

edit: Might add I'm finishing up electives for nursing.

SUCCESS IS HOW BAD YOU FUCKING WANT IT AND NOT JUST SAYING YOU WANT IT.

^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jal4OkZtz8g


Got the pic off the Speak it Out thread. Time management. Mmm. time is money.

aikenluu918
10-06-2011, 12:20 AM
i go to school FT at bcit. i work sundays all day, and monday mornings (930-130) handling it pretty well just cause its a small workload. its about personal preference and job description. my job is pretty slack so its not that big of a problem.

DragonChi
10-06-2011, 06:45 PM
I think it would squash a lot of the beef if all the shit talkers said what job they had specifically and what program they're taking.
There are lots of jobs were you can do homework while at work, or not that exhausting all.

We can talk about how hard work equals success, it's true, but I don't think we'd be on this forum if we were all billionaires... except maybe hyde...

If you take out a loan, you've got to pay it back anyways, so what's the big deal?

busdriverman
10-06-2011, 07:27 PM
been work 3 part time jobs and attending school part time and full time. currently working 4 part time jobs and doing ft school. work 30 hrs a week and go to school 12 hrs a week. i try to hit the gyn at least twice a week as well.
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Meowjin
10-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I think it would squash a lot of the beef if all the shit talkers said what job they had specifically and what program they're taking.
There are lots of jobs were you can do homework while at work, or not that exhausting all.


I work at a nightclub and an undisclosed job.

Next.

I'm not talking shit, I'm talking reality.

dignatas
10-06-2011, 11:10 PM
I work at a nightclub and an undisclosed job.

Next.

I'm not talking shit, I'm talking reality.

where is my half of gram? :troll:

Meowjin
10-06-2011, 11:15 PM
where is my half of gram? :troll:

:heckno:

instantneedles
10-08-2011, 05:44 PM
I work at a nightclub and an undisclosed job.

Next.

I'm not talking shit, I'm talking reality.

Hmm... Noice!! Perhaps social life and work merged into one? :troll: kill two birds with one stone?
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Meowjin
10-09-2011, 03:42 AM
Hmm... Noice!! Perhaps social life and work merged into one? :troll: kill two birds with one stone?
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again, if you are not having fun with school and meeting people, you need to work on your social skills.

jACEDesignsLtd
10-09-2011, 08:55 AM
there are so much things I can say about this thread, but i'll just limit myself :)

1. Like others have already said. Motivation is key. If you can conceive it, you CAN achieve it. No bullshit. There are those who lead/initiate, and there are those who follow/happy with status quo. Which group are you?

2. School is not just about studying. It's about taking you to another level you haven't been before. Mentally, physically, socially, financially. Everything. Others can elaborate for me. Make use of the schooling that you are privileged to have.

achiam
10-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Years ago when I went to UBC, I worked as a parkade cashier. I would get off class at 2pm, then sit in the parkade studying/working from 330PM-11PM. Unionized $14.50/hour + free faculty/staff parking pass BOOYEAH!

ifihadar8
10-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Majin makes it sound wrong to be upper class, or to want your kids to have a better life. In the end these "Asian kids" are the ones working 12 hour days in china 6 days a week and having certain luxuries for their families so their kids wouldn't have to work low wage jobs while in school. You are not a better person because you work AND go to school, it's merely a circumstance that you're given. So what if they don't have to work, eventually that's all they'll ever do.
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Meowjin
10-09-2011, 01:10 PM
Majin makes it sound wrong to be upper class, or to want your kids to have a better life. In the end these "Asian kids" are the ones working 12 hour days in china 6 days a week and having certain luxuries for their families so their kids wouldn't have to work low wage jobs while in school. You are not a better person because you work AND go to school, it's merely a circumstance that you're given. So what if they don't have to work, eventually that's all they'll ever do.
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:facepalm:

Nowhere did I say it was wrong to be upper class, but I'm saying that if you live at home and your parents feed you why you stressing working more than 24 hours a week? 24 hours a week is nothing! Like achiam said you find aj ob that SUITS YOU for your schedule. My jobs are perfect because I can work 12 hour days fri sat sunday.

also what I bolded doesn't make sense. And I never said I was a better than anyone. I'm old. I'm envious of the people who are 21 and already graduated and have their careers.

instantneedles
10-10-2011, 09:35 AM
again, if you are not having fun with school and meeting people, you need to work on your social skills.

Wtf bro? Where the hell did I say I can't have fun and meet people at school? I just said, you having a job at a club will also allow you to socialize and work at the same time. And yes I am very aware of what I can and can't do thank you very much. All I said was, as you go up to 3rd or 4rth year, things might start to be more academic-oriented.. doesn't mean there isn't time for fun.. And like I said I'm first year so I'm still in the process of getting a grip on things... Im not old and such like you are... But it doesn't take someone that old to realize that 3rd year and 4rth year is where you start giving your all...especially for those going into graduate school
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instantneedles
10-10-2011, 09:58 AM
Majin makes it sound wrong to be upper class, or to want your kids to have a better life. In the end these "Asian kids" are the ones working 12 hour days in china 6 days a week and having certain luxuries for their families so their kids wouldn't have to work low wage jobs while in school. You are not a better person because you work AND go to school, it's merely a circumstance that you're given. So what if they don't have to work, eventually that's all they'll ever do.
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Maijin, I think he was referring to the parents that work hard to support their children. Although this isn't directly related to the child themselves I do see your point. There are some people out there that realize what their parents do for them and some that don't. The ones that do realize it are the ones that put alot of effort in all that they do, so that their parents efforts will not be in vain. Although my parents agreed to fund my university for at least four years, I pay for everything else I do and I help out around the house whenever I can. Mind you, the money I save is all for my expenses I will have for when I graduate. If your talking about being spoiled, there are alot more spoiled kids out there than me.
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Meowjin
10-10-2011, 12:51 PM
Wtf bro? Where the hell did I say I can't have fun and meet people at school? I just said, you having a job at a club will also allow you to socialize and work at the same time. And yes I am very aware of what I can and can't do thank you very much. All I said was, as you go up to 3rd or 4rth year, things might start to be more academic-oriented.. doesn't mean there isn't time for fun.. And like I said I'm first year so I'm still in the process of getting a grip on things... Im not old and such like you are... But it doesn't take someone that old to realize that 3rd year and 4rth year is where you start giving your all...especially for those going into graduate school
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First year is definetly the hardest year of school, especially when your taking arts.

also lol at the bolded comment.

BaoTurbo
10-10-2011, 01:21 PM
Going to have 2 jobs and school for christmas. Get of work or school at 5 almost everyday and I have to rush to work after school or I'll be late. No life, but it makes me manage my time efficiently so I can socialize and have work at the same time. Sometimes if I feel like a little boost of energy to blow off steam I go work out to make me sleep better at night too.

instantneedles
10-15-2011, 11:49 AM
Also... Do you guys work jobs related to your field of study? If not, why not?
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