Suggestions for home theatre system?

[Klutch]

Whats going on, I was just curious as to what speakers would be good in terms of a home theatre system. I want something that pounds and sounds awesome. My budget for the system is around ~4gs. Im gonna be putting this in my new house which is currently being built. I just wanted some opinions as to what you guys would recommend. And i know this is Car audio, but i never knew where else to post it.

I was looking online and came across this package, what do you guys think? Klipsch is a pretty good brand is it not?

Klipsch Speakers RB-81 Home Theater 5.1 System - New!! | eBay

Thank youu

[Manic!]

Burn a CD with a bunch of songs you know. Take that CD to to some stores and have a listen. My first stop would be futureshop. Go on a day like Sunday when it's not busy.

[1990TSI]

I like klipsch, depending on the speaker model they sound great at average everyday guy prices and have high enough efficiency rating to play well on average guys receiver, not needing additional amplifiers.

the real question for you though, what do you already have equipment wise?

is your $4k budget just for speakers, or do you need a receiver, screen, wiring etc. in that budget. I can give some recomendations depending on what that $4k has to cover !

i'll give you this link though, there's weeks worth of reading here about setup, wiring, etc etc plus reviews.
Home Theater, HDTV, Receivers, Loudspeakers — Reviews and News from Audioholics

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[Phil@rise]

Are you looking to spend 4g's on just speakers? Or are you needing everything?

[MG1]

Since the house is being built, is the house being pre-wired for whole house sound system?

Just curious.........

[Lowered_Klass]

I've always been a huge fan of Klipsch. In fact, I actually dragged my ass outta bed early last boxing day, to scoop Klipsch's computer speaker set that were on sale.

If you're spending that kind of money just on speakers, you'll end up with some nice speakers. Just spend the time to listen to them in a store, before dropping that kind of cash on ebay.

[Klutch]

yes it is being prewired soon, the 4g budget is just on speakers (5 speakers, 1 sub (or maybe 2 ) )

[1990TSI]

2 subs should be expected this day and age.

what amps do you have though? or are you using a receiver with 5 channel amp built in?

[Cman333]

Too many factors come to play

1) What amp or receiver? 2.1, 5.1, 7.1?
2) What's its main use? Music, Movies, both?
3) What type of music?
4) Room layout?

If you want something to pound like for parties is completely diff from pounding for personal enjoyment or movies. Some people want like multiple 15" woofers. That will POUND. Room layout will make a huge difference too. Is it an open room? Closed off room? Windows everywhere? No windows? Sound proofed? Insulated? Etc.

I have B&W towers, those can go pretty damn loud, but I can't say they pound.

The speaker package you picked wouldn't in my definition "pound". Bookshelves don't tend to pound. They'll sound decent and balanced but you need big woofers to actually "pound". I've owned Klipsh Reference Series Towers before, they're not bad but I found a little tinny. If they could be had for cheap, I'd do it. Otherwise for the price there's other stuff that sounds smoother. 4K is a decent budget. I would suggest focusing on the FRONT speakers more than the rear speakers. Afterall, the rears BARELY play anything during movies.

I just did an install with a full Energy Veritas Series in some dudes mansion. Those kicked some ass. He's running 2 - 12" subwoofers also in an enclosed sound proofed theatre room. If the room was an open layout with windows and no sound proofing I don't think it would've pounded.

If you're looking for good well balanced sound that can go loud check out Martin Logan. They're apparently like half price at FS. Again, these won't pound but sound smooth and balanced.

Martin Logan Motion 12 Tower Speaker : Tower Speakers - Future Shop

You want speakers that'll shit kick you, try cerwin vega's.



We can get you speakers too. Depending on what you want of course.

[sonick]

Make sure you give the Klipsch a good listen. Not sure if things have changed, but I remember a few years back when I was into home theater that Klipsch are known to be much brighter compared to other brands, may be fatiguing depending on room setup.

[orgasm_donor]

Originally Posted by sonick

Make sure you give the Klipsch a good listen. Not sure if things have changed, but I remember a few years back when I was into home theater that Klipsch are known to be much brighter compared to other brands, may be fatiguing depending on room setup.

I agree. I remember one year they sounded all warm and natural...then the next year they kind of ripped your ears off. I think 2006-2007 was the change-over year. Anyways, some people may like the sound of the newer ones. I know I liked the older ones.

[Klutch]

Originally Posted by Cman333

Too many factors come to play

1) What amp or receiver? 2.1, 5.1, 7.1?
2) What's its main use? Music, Movies, both?
3) What type of music?
4) Room layout?

If you want something to pound like for parties is completely diff from pounding for personal enjoyment or movies. Some people want like multiple 15" woofers. That will POUND. Room layout will make a huge difference too. Is it an open room? Closed off room? Windows everywhere? No windows? Sound proofed? Insulated? Etc.

I have B&W towers, those can go pretty damn loud, but I can't say they pound.

The speaker package you picked wouldn't in my definition "pound". Bookshelves don't tend to pound. They'll sound decent and balanced but you need big woofers to actually "pound". I've owned Klipsh Reference Series Towers before, they're not bad but I found a little tinny. If they could be had for cheap, I'd do it. Otherwise for the price there's other stuff that sounds smoother. 4K is a decent budget. I would suggest focusing on the FRONT speakers more than the rear speakers. Afterall, the rears BARELY play anything during movies.

I just did an install with a full Energy Veritas Series in some dudes mansion. Those kicked some ass. He's running 2 - 12" subwoofers also in an enclosed sound proofed theatre room. If the room was an open layout with windows and no sound proofing I don't think it would've pounded.

If you're looking for good well balanced sound that can go loud check out Martin Logan. They're apparently like half price at FS. Again, these won't pound but sound smooth and balanced.

Martin Logan Motion 12 Tower Speaker : Tower Speakers - Future Shop

You want speakers that'll shit kick you, try cerwin vega's.



We can get you speakers too. Depending on what you want of course.

Im not too sure on the reciever yet, prolly gonna get a 5.1 maybe with a built in amp, but if i can find one separately i might do that too. Mostly gonna be for music and movies. I listen to alot of hip hop, rap, so i gotta be able to hit those lowsssssss Theres gonna be no windows and it will be sound proofed, i dont quite remember the size of the room off my head but its a pretty decent sized room. I want something that will sound awesome, i think i might want 2 12's, but then again 1 12" would prolly do the trick also

[Cman333]

Well then, you definately don't want bookshelf speakers if you plan on pounding it.

At least some good towers and a sub or two.

If you come accross speakers you're interested in let us know. See what we can do to help you fit within the budget.

Don't buy a crappy reciever either. It makes a big diff. I personally think for bang for the buck Pioneer is one of the best out there. Otherwise if you have the budget Marantz, Onkyo, Higher end Denon, and Harman/Kardon. There a buncha other stuff that's better but will run you 1000+ for just the reciever.

[1990TSI]

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[Manic!]

Originally Posted by Cman333

Well then, you definately don't want bookshelf speakers if you plan on pounding it.

Don't count out the bookshelf. Crossed over with a sub they can sound great. Just look at all the car systems you have installed with a pair of 6.5 inch comps in the front and subs in the back.

$500 to $600 is the sweet spot for receivers.


Right now for speakers I have Paradigm Titans, Axiom on walls (not installed) Jamo's, polks and I have listened to many other high end speakers. One of the best speakers I have heard and own are Behringer TRUTH B2030A. Powered speaker with 175 watts RMS going to the 8 inch woofer and 50 watts RMS going to the tweeter. I use them when DJing in my room but deiced to try a movie with them. I heard Harry Potter had a good sound track so I got the first one in HD. Sounded so good I watched all of them. One of the best speakers I have heard with tons of output and only $400 a pair.

My small to medium HT would consist of 5 Behringer TRUTH B2030A's a P.A. amp like a Behringer iNuke NU3000 for $299 powering a 1 or 2 custom subs and a Marantz SR5005 receiver. Just using the pre out's not the built in amps. Behringer also makes a passive version of the speaker if the house is already wired for passive speakers.

Total cost would be under $4000 and I don't think you could do better under $10000

Klutch who is doing your wiring? What type of display are you using?


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[Klutch]

Vancouver Intrusion Alarm | CCTV Security System Installation and Monitoring in Vancouver, will be doing my wiring, is there anything special i should be letting them know in advance? and i was looking at the cerwin vegas online, and damn they look pretty sick.

what would u think of this... ( this is just a rough outline, feel free to add your own opinions in this. i was just looking at the cerwin vega site and came across these)

2 x Cerwin Vega XLS 215 ($649 x 2 = $1298)
XLS 215 CERWIN VEGA Floorstanding Tower Speaker

1 x Cerwin Vega XLS 6C ($169)
XLS 6C CERWIN VEGA 2 Way Center Channel Speaker

1 x Cerwin Vega CVHF-A18S (SUB) $999 on amazon
CVHF-A21S CERWIN VEGA HOME AUDIO SUBWOOFER

That would be for the front stage, ill still need to get two for the rears but i dont need something too crazy as orgasm_donor said they barely get played. What would you guys suggest to power it? The behringer iNuke NU3000 looks like a pretty solid amp for the price, but if i were to get this setup would it be able to power it properly? Keep in mind i wont need to power this sub because it does have a built in amp.

AHHHH.....all the possibilitiesssssss

[Cman333]

I'm not saying Bookshelf speakers aren't great but they don't "pound". When I think "pound" I'm thinking like party speakers. Like something a DJ would use to get a small party bumping.

You can't compare the small confined area of a car to a huge room. What sounds good in a car wouldn't mean the same in a huge room. We have a car audio demo board hooked up with a sub in our showroom and even when cranked up it doesn't pound. LOUD? Yes. Pound? No.

I think if Klutch is looking to beat the shit out of his system CV is the way to go. Not exactly the best in terms of sound quality. But they can rock the party. I'm assuming you're only really listening to bass heavy music (rap, R&B, trance, house, etc)? Nothing like Jazz, Classical, etc?

As for rears, just get something decent. A simple bookshelf should suffice. Oh, it was me that said to not go too crazy on rears. Not OD

[Manic!]

CV make terrible speakers. Original owners lost a ton off money. Remember the overpriced made in America car amps they made and could not sell? Now they are owned by Stanton magnetics. Their P.A. speakers suck and so do their home speakers. The Behringer's I have could do a party with 30 to 40 people with a good sub.

Look at the specs for the CV sub.
* Frequency Response: 35 Hz - 120 Hz
* Frequency Range: 1: 28 Hz – 150 Hz (-10 dB)
* Power Capacity: 1200 / 2400 watts
* Crossover: Variable LPF: 65 Hz - 130 Hz HPF: 25 Hz
* Controls:

HPF: 65 Hz, 85 Hz, 130 Hz

Variable LPF: 65 Hz, 130 Hz

Polarity Switch: 0 - 180
* Parametric Equalizer: Gain, Frequency, Q
* Input Connectors: L&R XLR/RCA In and Through XLR/RCA Link Out
* LFE Driver: 21” Paper cone double roll cast frame woofer

21 inch sub only goes down to 28 hz (-10 dB) is crap.

Look at HSU Research

$699 and way better specs. Goes down to 16 hz +/-2db.

Bass Extension

16 Hz, +/-2db
Amp Power

1400 W short term, 350 W continuous
Woofer Size

12 Inches
Dimensions

21.5”(h) X 17”(w) X 25”(d) excluding feet/grill
Ports

Dual flared 4"

Listen to as many speakers as you can before you buy.

[Klutch]

Originally Posted by Cman333

I'm not saying Bookshelf speakers aren't great but they don't "pound". When I think "pound" I'm thinking like party speakers. Like something a DJ would use to get a small party bumping.

You can't compare the small confined area of a car to a huge room. What sounds good in a car wouldn't mean the same in a huge room. We have a car audio demo board hooked up with a sub in our showroom and even when cranked up it doesn't pound. LOUD? Yes. Pound? No.

I think if Klutch is looking to beat the shit out of his system CV is the way to go. Not exactly the best in terms of sound quality. But they can rock the party. I'm assuming you're only really listening to bass heavy music (rap, R&B, trance, house, etc)? Nothing like Jazz, Classical, etc?

As for rears, just get something decent. A simple bookshelf should suffice. Oh, it was me that said to not go too crazy on rears. Not OD

Oh shitt my baddd man, got it mixed uppp But now that i really think of it, i dont want anything super stupid loud. I would rather have more actual good sound quality. I guess I should get something other than the CV's since you guys say their sound quality isnt that great.

[sonick]

IMHO, you can't go wrong with Paradigm.

As for CV, it's kind of unfair to compare subs, as there are subwoofer-specific companies that are known just for doing subwoofers... HSU, SVS, Velodyne. Regardless, the point is moot as the quality for the buck for CV just isn't there to begin with.

I am an SVS fanboy myself as I used to frequent a forum where the creators of SVS were regulars on.

[Cman333]

In my head I'm thinking you'll just be jamming hard on them, then I was thinking CV would be ok for that. Those "pound". Like you will feel it.

I would suggest not doing so. But some people really just like to "feel" their music. I thought maybe you were one of them. LOL

Well if you want something well balanced and still can get loud theres TONS out there.

Not everyone listens to the same music, nor do they have the exact same speaker preferences. The Energy Veritas I just did sound pretty good. The mids hit pretty hard. Not really my tastes personally, but I think for most people they would love em. I like my speakers more well rounded and warm sounding. Not too mid bass heavy. But like I said, everyone has their own tastes. You're best bet is to go have a listen a several stores and see what you like. Then once we know what type of sound you like we can more easily help point you in the right direction. Since you're not in a rush, you can leisurely try out speakers until you're ready. That way you can try out a huge variety of speakers and hear the differences and see what you like (or hate). Problem when buying speakers is sometimes you don't notice things in the store and when you get them home they sound different from what you remember. Some speakers are bass heavy, some mid bass heavy, overly bright, lack of depth, etc etc. Since you have time, might as well try as many as you can right? lol

[orgasm_donor]

Well, looks like we'll be carrying some pretty high end home audio speakers now. If you are looking for above bar equipment, you have another choice.

[Klutch]

What types of brands should i be looking at i want something fairly high end. And orgasm_donor wat kind of equipment you selling now
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