[Ron_Swanson]

PACQUIAO - MARQUEZ HBO 24/7 pt 1 of 2 (SWEETBOXING) - YouTube

PACQUIAO - MARQUEZ HBO 24/7 pt 2 of 2 (SWEETBOXING) - YouTube

It started yesterday, enjoy guys.

[StaxBundlez]

this is gonna be good.

[fliptuner]

The first two were full on, 12rd battles. I'm hoping for nothing less this time around.

[fliptuner]

What time do you guys think the main event will start?

[mb_]

8:30-9ish ~

[vafanculo]

Any links for stream when fight starts? Pls post up
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[murd0c]

Boxing: Pacquiao vs Marquez Live Stream Online (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91372/1/watch-boxing:-pacquiao-vs-marquez.html)

[sindragon]

ty man :D

[jeedee]

edit:

FINALLY a working link:

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91372/1/watch-boxing:-pacquiao-vs-marquez.html

[murd0c]

download sopcast, Found a perfect link on it

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/106723

[corollagtSr5]

shady

[jeedee]

HOLLYYYYY close fight

[1exotic]

Marquez got fucking robbed

[dlo]

a lot of proud flips are even admitting marquez won lol... must had been a high robbery than, will watch tmr

[murd0c]

Boxing is a complete joke, I honestly lost the little respect I had for it..... Wow thats a joke!!

[DsZ24]

I don't watch boxing very often but I watched this one and it seemed pretty clear who won. Then the judges say the opposite. These boxing judges seem even more shady than mma judges.

[hotshot1]

I was cheering for Pacquiao but god damn, Marquez got absolutely robbed.

[mb_]

Could have gone either way. Honestly thought Marquez was gonna take it.

[DsZ24]

Is that mario lopez doing the post fight interview? lol wtf

[vafanculo]

Wut a load of shit.

I'm not a zeitgeist nut, but this has mayweather pac written all over it
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[hotshot1]

I don't watch boxing very often but I watched this one and it seemed pretty clear who won. Then the judges say the opposite. These boxing judges seem even more shady than mma judges.

MMA judges are just dumb, they don't know much about mma so they take more account into striking (because a lot of them were boxing judges).

Boxing judges have a history of shady decisions.

[rsx]

PAC fan, but that was just highway robbery. Marquez won it.

[jeedee]

MMA judges are just dumb, they don't know much about mma so they take more account into striking (because a lot of them were boxing judges).

Boxing judges have a history of shady decisions.

You clearly don't watch MMA.

They don't "favor" striking more because they came from boxing :fulloffuck:

Wrestling is favored highly when judging.

[Manic!]

Boxing sucks.

Even the UK announcers are are saying it's a fix.

[lacubrious1]

As a filipino I love manny and all that he stands for. But its clear he didn't win that fight :(

[Manic!]

The promoters want to do a 4th fight.:facepalm:

[beanzzz]

That fight wasn't even close. Marquez definitely won, and this is coming from a Filipino.

[Manic!]

12:58 AM ET: Marquez in locker room: "This is the second robbery of the two fights we've had. This one was even more clear than the first."

12:54 AM ET: Manny to Mayweather: "Let's get it on. Let's make this fight happen."

12:53 AM ET: Manny on fighting him again: "Anytime. I'm a fighter. My job is to fight."

12:52 AM ET: Manny: "Of course they're unhappy, they're fans of Marquez. But I clearly won the fight."

12:51 AM ET: The crowd is hot. Bob Velin says skullduggery is afoot.

12:50 AM ET: Manny Pacquiao def. Juan Manuel Marquez by majority decision.

[Sir_Loin]

Fix was on, get ready for Pac vs Money on May, 05 2012.

Pac and Roach are geniuses they sucked enough against Marquez so that Money will agree to the fight.

[bloodline129]

That was a draw... Manny pressed n was faster but he got countered with heavy shots, even tho he took it he never did any major damage. Marquez stood his ground and I think the fight went 6 6 or 5 5 indecisive rounds.... No more fkn comments
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[bloodline129]

I mean 5 5 n 2 indecisive
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[hung_lo]

In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have.
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[Noir]

In my gut, I have this feeling that marquez should have won, but I can't really make sense of it..
Statistically pacquiao won the fight.
Threw more, landed more.
Marquez got some really good punches, but there was no visual damage aside from the bleeding inner lip and the cut on his eye from the collision of their heads.
I can't really justify marquez winning, even though I feel like he should have.
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Marquez played the counter-punch through out majority of the fight. Sports experts explained that judges tend to be more generous to aggressive fighters rather than conservative ones.

TBH, I know it's probably a smarter, strategic way to fight but Marquez is such a boring fighter. I kinda wanted to see more offense from him rather than offense-by-defense.

[Zeph331]

The promoters want to do a 4th fight.:facepalm:

lol wtfs the point.. we all know manny is going to get UD again if they were to fight again

straight out robbery, after tonight im confident may is going to walk down pac

i salute Marquez tho, he was and is always a true boxing warrior with heart

[WakeMeUp]

Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.

[Wongtouski]

Fix was on, get ready for Pac vs Money on May, 05 2012.

Pac and Roach are geniuses they sucked enough against Marquez so that Money will agree to the fight.

Exactly, it's just bait to get Money May on board....

[JSilver]

Manny seemed to obviously be worried of JMM's counter skills. JMM did land some good counter. Hardly any damage shown on Manny though. And as someone mentioned Judges look for aggressiveness AND punches thrown and landed. Statistically Manny clearly won that over the judges.

Not sure why everyones crying that JMM won this by a fucking mile. I mean yes JMM fought a WAY better fight than their last two encounters. I would say JMM should have won that's for sure but it was close in my opinion, if anything a draw should have been called. Whoever was directing the cameras that night licked nuts. Some horrible angles of that fight to view.

Fixed fight? I wouldn't be surprised but if so, then I'm all for it to see Money and Pacman go at it.

Can Pacman take Money? No. I honestly don't think so. Pacman may have the nicest footwork and one of the fastest hands but Money is on another level.

[jeedee]

Interesting..

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/jeedee_/x2_94aa4ea.jpg

[Splmash]

Cybulski: Two reasons why Marquez lost to Pacquiao (http://tsn.ca/boxing/story/?id=380358)

If Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao were two normal fighters, duking it out on a small undercard, Marquez would've walked out the winner Saturday night. The 38-year-old far and away landed more impactful punches and seemed to have an answer to almost every one of Pac-Man's offensives.

But it wasn't enough for two reasons.

The first reason is explained by using the Tao of the Nature Boy, Ric Flair: 'To be the Man, you gotta beat the Man.'

Marquez may have won the fight in many eyes, but in a title fight, you gotta beat the champ. Champions don't lose close fights -- especially ones like Pacquiao.

How Marquez held back for the last two rounds is beyond me. For his corner to tell him to stay the course is one of the worst pieces of advice in the history of big fights. Why not go all out? It's about legacy. He didn't win either of the first two fights and his camp decides to leave it up to the judges? That's silly.

The second and biggest reason is simple economics. There is no way in H-E-double hockey sticks that anyone involved in the boxing world is going to do anything to jeopardize the sport's greatest asset -- the dream fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

It's the one fight that purists keep holding out hope for and the last great fight that keeps a fading boxing audience hanging around. They're talking about a crowd of over 100,000 in Dallas, for crying out loud. Toss in the pay-per-view gate, and no wonder you keep hearing $100 million dollars as a sort of magic number to get these two in the ring.

[jACEDesignsLtd]

Reminds me of UFC. Dana White always said, "don't leave it in the hands of the judges". It'll go to the aggressor.

[Noir]

Pac doesn't show good ring iq. He couldn't adapt to JMM's counter and just ended up resetting every time he got countered. He's fast and hits hard, but his quickness peaked a while ago and he doesn't have great boxing skills. Floyd would win nearly every round or finish him in the later rounds for an easy victory.


Adapt as in what? Pull a Philadelphia Flyer and combat conservatism with equal conservatism? :D j/k

I mean, yeah it sucks Manny couldn't do better than a close call (if even that) but from a viewer POV, I appreciate the athlete that was was pushing all night rather than the one who just picks his spots.

I wouldn't pay for another Marquez fight but people will still pay for Manny's. (or at least I can only assume they will)




edit:

darn, I guess I sounded a bit esoteric. to understand the Philadelphia Flyer quip, just see the video below (for non-hockey fans)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWaHqp-vWBo

[WakeMeUp]

well Pac seemed to keep using double right jab then straight left. It wasn't working. JMM would counter and stop Pacs assault. JMM would also move to Pacs right putting Pacs left hand out of range. Pac had to try a different route of attack but he didn't/couldn't hence why i said he didn't adapt to what he was up against. The guy was clearly frustrated and didn't have any answers.

[dasuperstar]

OMG Check this you tube vid.... no wonder why pac cant move that fast

http://youtu.be/WwAeQzMTXUY

[JSilver]

Okay well that changes things.

Wonder what the rules are for that kind of boxing strategy.

[murd0c]

Okay well that changes things.

Wonder what the rules are for that kind of boxing strategy.

completely legal and it's one of the oldest tricks in the books. Nothing they can do about it at all it's just considered dirty and cheap.

[JSilver]

And that is why I drifted away from boxing years ago.

[Excelsis]

sure it's cheap, but he just wasn't quick enough

[Zeph331]

PacRoid Stepping On Juan Manuel Marquez Foot - YouTube

This happens because southpaw vs unorthodox