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A new coalition of B.C. health care professionals, academics and police are mounting a push to legalize the sale of marijuana, arguing the prohibition against pot is driving gang violence in the province.
Stop the Violence BC coalition members come from a wide range of high-profile groups and institutions, including the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, Centre for Addictions Research BC, Providence Health Care, Vancouver Coastal Health and Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
A retired BC Supreme Court Justice and a retired RCMP Chief Superintendent have also lent their names to the cause.
There are more than 430,000 marijuana users in B.C., the coalition claims, and the massive profits the drug generates fuel a violent ongoing turf war that claims dozens of lives every year.
RCMP statistics show the per cent of B.C. homicides attributable to gangs has risen from 21 in 1997 to 34 in 2009. Dr. Evan Wood of the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS says it's time to rethink the way authorities handle pot in the province.
"We know that making marijuana illegal has not achieved its stated objectives of limiting marijuana supply or rates of use," Wood said in a statement.
It's time to focus on "how to decrease violence, remove the illicit industry's profit motive and improve public health and safety," he added.
The group will be releasing a series of reports aimed at putting pressure on politicians to legally regulate marijuana sales, and polls suggest they have plenty of support from British Columbians.
An Angus Reid survey commissioned by Stop the Violence found 69 per cent of respondents in favour of taxing and regulating pot over arresting producers and sellers. Only 39 per cent support minimum prison sentences for marijuana-related crime, including possession of six or more plants, and a full 87 per cent attribute gang violence in the province to marijuana prohibition.
Only 12 per cent said they were in favour or maintaining current marijuana laws.
CTV British Columbia - B.C. police and academics call for pot legalization - CTV News | Some statements from coalition members: David Bratzer, Police Officer and Board of Directors, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition:
“Marijuana prohibition may be well-intentioned, but my personal opinion is that it has failed in BC and around the world. Prohibition has created a huge and violent criminal enterprise that is becoming more dangerous with each passing day, and I strongly support controlled marijuana legalization as an effective way to fight crime and protect our communities.” Ross Lander, Retired Justice, BC Supreme Court:
“I have read the report produced by the Stop Violence B.C. Coalition. With its contents I agree in all respects. I am providing this statement as a now retired Justice of the Supreme Court ofBritish Columbia and the opinions expressed are my thoughts alone as a citizen of Canada. The word futile is the most apt word to describe the long and unsuccessful “War on Drugs.” My experience as a trial judge has shown me that greed is a primary motivation of drug dealers who are averse to honest labour and obtaining tax free income from trafficking in cannabis–the monies obtained from illicit sales are staggering. When the courts impose harsh sentences on convicted drug dealers there are invariably some person or persons willing to fill the publics’ insatiable demand for marijuana. This is why I support the regulated sale of marijuana–not just in in B.C., but in Canada as a whole. Over time it is obvious that the police and judicial systems cannot extinguish the illicit production and sale of cannabis.” Stop the Violence BC | Coalition Members
It's refreshing to see some of society's upstanding citizens finally speaking out against this prohibition .
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The only way any sort of movement will happen is if legit hard working and important members of society speak out like this
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It'll never be legalized.. Canada would become a joke.. so because they can't win the fight vs drugs they decide to legalize it? This thread is stupid Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Originally Posted by DC5-S  It'll never be legalized.. Canada would become a joke.. so because they can't win the fight vs drugs they decide to legalize it? This thread is stupid Posted via RS Mobile | you think continuing to bang our heads against the wall fighting a battle we can't win is intelligent?
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Originally Posted by DC5-S It'll never be legalized.. Canada would become a joke.. so because they can't win the fight vs drugs they decide to legalize it? This thread is stupid Posted via RS Mobile |  | |
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Agreed. If I could fail you for a stupid post I would DC5-S.
"Canada would become a joke?" Interesting statement with no fact behind it.
If Canada legalized marijuana, the government would be the BIGGEST benefactor because pot could then be sold and taxed. They say the drug trade is a multi-BILLION dollar market each year, and the government spends twice as much to try and keep it out, failing over and over again.
I could see the legalization of marijuana be a great revenue stream for government projects, and it could cut down our taxes. Police could then not worry so much about marijuana and deal with bigger crimes.
But to be honest, the only way legislation will pass the Legalization of Marijuana is to have a way of roadside testing for it. Without a immediate result, they will never allow it.
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I can see there being a huge issue with the US still fighting their drug war. Customs going into the states would definitely be much stricter with everyone buying it legally here and bringing it into the states.
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Originally Posted by DC5-S It'll never be legalized.. Canada would become a joke.. so because they can't win the fight vs drugs they decide to legalize it? This thread is stupid Posted via RS Mobile | oh really? when drug related crime drops significantly and the amount of money we save shows how successful dropping the war on drugs has become, other countries will be laughing at us will they?
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Imagine how many people would vote for this if the BC gov't said the tax collected on pot would offset most of the taxes on fuel.
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Might as well legalize it. At the end of the day, if people want to get bud, they will find a way to get it. Whether it be growing it themselves or buying it from a drug dealer, whatever. Although I'm sure the "face" of marijuana is labelled as junkies or hippies who get stoned all day and become useless fucks of society. I personally know more regular folks who are legitimate, nice hard working every day people who just enjoy a joint every once and a while. Just accept it, people are going to smoke pot. Just legalize it and start taxing it.
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Originally Posted by melloman Agreed. If I could fail you for a stupid post I would DC5-S.
"Canada would become a joke?" Interesting statement with no fact behind it.
If Canada legalized marijuana, the government would be the BIGGEST benefactor because pot could then be sold and taxed. They say the drug trade is a multi-BILLION dollar market each year, and the government spends twice as much to try and keep it out, failing over and over again.
I could see the legalization of marijuana be a great revenue stream for government projects, and it could cut down our taxes. Police could then not worry so much about marijuana and deal with bigger crimes.
But to be honest, the only way legislation will pass the Legalization of Marijuana is to have a way of roadside testing for it. Without a immediate result, they will never allow it. | 6bill a year actually :P and yeee they should, ive been dying for a joint LOL but i cant cus i wanna be in law enforcement
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Marijuana was a gateway drug for me. After smoking for a month i wanted to explore other drugs and my dealer also introduced to me another dealer that sold meth. The first time i did it, i got hooked. Only when my parents forcefully moved me to another country did i get off that hell.
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Originally Posted by geeknerd Marijuana was a gateway drug for me. After smoking for a month i wanted to explore other drugs and my dealer also introduced to me another dealer that sold meth. The first time i did it, i got hooked. Only when my parents forcefully moved me to another country did i get off that hell.
It's a dangerous drug. Do not legalize. | no troll. that is one of the reason y we should legalize. legal = no shady dealer = no introduction to other drugs
in the best case scenario that is of course
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Originally Posted by DC5-S It'll never be legalized.. Canada would become a joke.. so because they can't win the fight vs drugs they decide to legalize it? This thread is stupid Posted via RS Mobile | I know my mom and teacher's always told me if you didn't have anything nice to say, you shouldn't say it...
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Originally Posted by geeknerd Marijuana was a gateway drug for me. After smoking for a month i wanted to explore other drugs and my dealer also introduced to me another dealer that sold meth. The first time i did it, i got hooked. Only when my parents forcefully moved me to another country did i get off that hell.
It's a dangerous drug. Do not legalize. | I love weed. I've been offered crack, coke, and opium. Never once did I touch the stuff.
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Originally Posted by gars I can see there being a huge issue with the US still fighting their drug war. | I think it should be legalized, it'll solve tons of issues, yet agree that our close relationship with the US may make this a political nightmare.
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I used to be pretty against legalilzing pot. Now, I've just come to the point where I don't care. As well, I started to think more about it, and I'm for less personal regulation, and smaller government, so it was a little hypocritical to support the ban.
My objections are:
Keep it out of cars, off the road and out of my building. I don't want people on their balconies all over the place smoking up, or worse, the smell in the halls.
I also don't know that I want Canada to be known internationally as North America's Amsterdam-without the brothels, but they are working on that too.
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Originally Posted by geeknerd Marijuana was a gateway drug for me. After smoking for a month i wanted to explore other drugs and my dealer also introduced to me another dealer that sold meth. The first time i did it, i got hooked. Only when my parents forcefully moved me to another country did i get off that hell.
It's a dangerous drug. Do not legalize. | its not a gateway drug anymore than alcohol is a gateway drug or cigarettes or coffee or sugar is a gateway drug.
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Originally Posted by Gridlock I used to be pretty against legalilzing pot. Now, I've just come to the point where I don't care. As well, I started to think more about it, and I'm for less personal regulation, and smaller government, so it was a little hypocritical to support the ban.
My objections are:
Keep it out of cars, off the road and out of my building. I don't want people on their balconies all over the place smoking up, or worse, the smell in the halls.
I also don't know that I want Canada to be known internationally as North America's Amsterdam-without the brothels, but they are working on that too. | treat it like liquor and cigarettes and you wont have those problems.
no smoking indoors or near entrances, apartments can enforce smoking rules, no driving under the influence (although quite honestly its not a big deal), no showing up to work high, etc...
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I'm all for it medically. I mean, if there's any shot that marijuana is beneficial to someone, then they should be able to access it.
The only other reason I think it should be legal is because it's less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol. If it's never killed anyone and those two things kill tons of people, I can't logically think of a reason it shouldn't be legal. It should be regulated and keep it away from cars (just like you can't drink and drive, smoking and driving should be illegal as well).
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the term gateway is so full of bullshit.. Just another excuse for addicts. I tried ecstasy before I tried weed.. so fuck that shit..
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But to be honest, the only way legislation will pass the Legalization of Marijuana is to have a way of roadside testing for it. Without a immediate result, they will never allow it.
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if pot isnt being illegaly brought into bc anymore somthing else will. drug dealers still want money right? You think theyll just dissapear?
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