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MindBomber
10-28-2011, 12:31 AM
Poll didn't work, just post what option you choose, I'll add them up and update this post.

Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.

Option 2: Support the Surrey Basement Farming Industry - Marijuana should not be legalized, but don't institute mandatory minimums.

Option 3: Stoner Witch Hunt - Institute mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana related crimes, Harper's new super prisons have vacancies to fill.

MG1
10-28-2011, 02:29 AM
I've smoked the shit in the past. It has cured a lot of my ailments.................

TOS'd
10-28-2011, 02:59 AM
Option C seems best.

StylinRed
10-28-2011, 03:02 AM
option 2. b) iii.


never tried it, never will; don't have a problem with people who do/want to

SkinnyPupp
10-28-2011, 03:09 AM
My stance on marijuana is the same as my stance on EVERYTHING: If it doesn't harm anyone else, go for it.
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TheKingdom2000
10-28-2011, 04:24 AM
option 2. b) iii.


never tried it, never will; don't have a problem with people who do/want to

Just curious, why you will never try it?

StylinRed
10-28-2011, 04:38 AM
Just curious, why you will never try it?

never had a sip of alcohol either or cigs

wont do anything that i find unnecessary that addles the brain or damages the body

Matlock
10-28-2011, 04:39 AM
Just tax the hell out of it, same goes for prostitution.

dignatas
10-28-2011, 05:25 AM
never had a sip of alcohol either or cigs

wont do anything that i find unnecessary that addles the brain or damages the body

maybe it is because you are 14 :troll:

anything above 16 and you did not try beer once or a cig..... you must be.. :heckno:

Vansterdam
10-28-2011, 05:52 AM
Poll didn't work, just post what option you choose, I'll add them up and update this post.

Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.

Option 2: Support the Surrey Basement Farming Industry - Marijuana should not be legalized, but don't institute mandatory minimums.

Option 3: Stoner Witch Hunt - Institute mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana related crimes, Harper's new super prisons have vacancies to fill.

:suspicious::heckno:

xilley
10-28-2011, 06:00 AM
Legalize it so government makes more money and fix the DAMN roads so our cars wont scrape and we could actually see the fucking lanes when its raining. :2finger:

Jackygor
10-28-2011, 07:56 AM
never had a sip of alcohol either or cigs

wont do anything that i find unnecessary that addles the brain or damages the body

Why are you on revscene then? :troll:

Nicotine
10-28-2011, 07:57 AM
vansterdam :hat:

hotjoint
10-28-2011, 08:14 AM
vansterdam :hat:

:werd:

LSF22
10-28-2011, 08:24 AM
vansterdam :hat:

+1.

jaemc
10-28-2011, 09:01 AM
+2 Vansterdam

tool001
10-28-2011, 09:05 AM
was speaking to my mom about it, she is 60+, asked her if she had ever smoked, she said yes, then told me , i could plant a couple mj plants @ home if, i wanted to.

i was like :megusta:

Leaglise it. but with convr. in ottawa..forget it

XplicitLuder
10-28-2011, 09:19 AM
+3 Vansterdam

Lomac
10-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Legalize it and tax it. However make sure the same rules apply for joints as do for cigarettes. As someone highly allergic to it, I'd like to be able to avoid at least a few spots of the smell. Lol
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vafanculo
10-28-2011, 09:42 AM
I want option 1

But il still buy from option 2 if the taxes are unreasonable
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dinosaur
10-28-2011, 09:54 AM
I am between 2 & 3.

Here is the thing....I use to smoke it. Not wake and bake style, but I use to smoke a lot of it. With friends, at parties, at lunch in jr high and high school, camping, weekends, etc...then I hit 23-24ish and was like "meh", I'm done.

Now, at 31, I think the shit stinks. I find it annoying, I think the whole "pot" culture is gross, dirty, and immature, and I hate dealing with it.

I manage 5 apartment buildings and find that this is my BIGGEST problem. I get it. Everyone smokes pot. I am a minority in this province when it comes to this issue. My issue is, is that it effects others. It stinks up the halls, it smells up your neighbours' apartment, etc. It also presents a less than ideal place to live for potential tenants.

I know the same can be said for cigarette smoke, but I don't get high from your cigarette smoke. All my buildings are non-smoking buildings, so if I smell cigarette smoke, I can tell people to go outside, give warning letters, and potentially end their tenancy. The problem with pot smokers is, "well, I don't smoke pot". I can't do anything.

If I sit next to a guy getting drunk, I don't get drunk. If I sit next to a guy smoke pot, I get high. And, from what I understand, there are no mechanisms to detect impaired drivers that are high, so there is another issue.

Rant done...proceed to fail as I am sure few other share my opinion.

achiam
10-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Legalize it, get the government to sell it as cheap as possible -- this instantly destroys the grow-op supply, and forces organized crime to find other ways to obtain easy cash. My friends from the Netherlands told me it was annoying that everyone thought they smoked up all the time -- in reality they thought only the tourists smoked a lot. As well, the drug legalization program was a tremendous success in Portugal -- legalizing everything but massively increasing rehab option support.

MDMA
10-28-2011, 11:35 AM
Just keep smokin it
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Sandman
10-28-2011, 11:40 AM
1

Culverin
10-28-2011, 12:04 PM
Never smoked it, never will.

But despite that, I'm going with #1.
It's a choice. I almost always side with choice.

Legalize, regulate, tax the crap out of it and educate.

Less than 5% of my friends smoke, and even then, it's casual, not chain smokers.
Studies have shown that cigs are are more addictive and more harmful than pot, yet we're in a smoking-declining culture simply due to proper early education.

That and we'll have more money coming in.

dlo
10-28-2011, 12:07 PM
Video: Joe Rogan (Fear Factor Host / UFC Announcer) Talks About Being Pro Weed, The Good Effects & Why The Government Wont Legalize It

nuff said lol

StylinRed
10-28-2011, 12:08 PM
maybe it is because you are 14 :troll:

anything above 16 and you did not try beer once or a cig..... you must be.. :heckno:

lol u must be 14 if you think that way :p im 30 ;) was the most popular guy in hs/popular in uni without it; never felt a need/pressure/desire to try it even though most around me were toking/drinking
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see.lai
10-28-2011, 12:53 PM
tax this instead of our gas :yuno:

Energy
10-28-2011, 12:59 PM
As much as I'd like 3, 1 seems to be the better solution.
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6insomnia9
10-28-2011, 01:02 PM
Leave it , change is never good
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Mr.HappySilp
10-28-2011, 01:09 PM
Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.

bloodmack
10-28-2011, 01:13 PM
People who say 3 are stupid, Why do you want it to be a criminal act? Lol

dlo
10-28-2011, 01:23 PM
please dont fucking tax my weed, i pree much get it 3$ a gram atm so dont fuck it up

teekaywok
10-28-2011, 01:24 PM
+1 vansterdam

Gridlock
10-28-2011, 01:33 PM
Personally I don't know. I am a small gov't, less regulation type person, but I really don't want to see weed proliferate.

I'd probably have to go for a hybrid option of weed cafes and decrim personal use amounts. I think we'd have to put off decrim on supply until a change in the stance from the us.

With legal supply,I think there would be a desirable effect on the grow op business, but the effect on organized crime would be lessened for it still being illegal in us and mexico, so while buying it would be legal, it would turn to illegal export.

For the time being, I see it still ruining rental homes all over the lower mainland.
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KingDeeCee
10-28-2011, 01:53 PM
3.

Treat my body like a temple, why put that in your body?

Do you even lift brah?
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-so i have to do presentation for class
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-presentation again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get up there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-teacher says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, people are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-girls start laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of teacher's desk
-minor concussion
-teacher thinks I was on drugs
-classmates call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school

4doorVIP
10-28-2011, 02:06 PM
1

unit
10-28-2011, 02:50 PM
-so i have to do presentation for class
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-presentation again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get up there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-teacher says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, people are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-girls start laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of teacher's desk
-minor concussion
-teacher thinks I was on drugs
-classmates call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school

i want what this guys smoking

Nightwalker
10-28-2011, 04:07 PM
Option 1 all the way.

JD35
10-28-2011, 04:17 PM
^ +1

Ulic Qel-Droma
10-28-2011, 04:41 PM
.

niu99
10-28-2011, 04:48 PM
doesn't matter

fliptuner
10-28-2011, 04:58 PM
My stance on marijuana?

Well, I haven't smoked weed in like 10 or so years but when I did, I was usually standing outside with my friends. Sometimes I would sit, while I waited for my turn. The only time I would really sit and smoke was if I was using a bong, just cause it was more comfortable. There was the occasional time I would smoke in bed, right before I fucked my GF but like I said, that was a long time ago.

:pokerface:

:troll:

Option 1 for sure.

palepilsenpin0y
10-28-2011, 05:05 PM
As much as I am all for option vansterdam, the only problem I can see with legalized MJ is that more people would be showing up high as a kite in public.

Although it can most definitely work, as long as specific boundaries are enforced. I.E. Just treat it like alcohol! Over 19 to purchase perhaps? Most importantly, don't smoke-up and drive (AT ALL).

Other than that, MJ doesn't really harm anybody, for the most part, unless it's overly excessive (pot isn't even addictive anyways). But hey, excessive smoking leads to lung/mouth cancer and excessive drinking leads to liver failure and both are 100% legal. You can get high from sniffing glue for crying out loud, which can easily be bought anywhere and its effects are infinitely more dangerous to a human body than weed!

My overall take is that marijuana shouldn't be illegal, period. It's just a matter of working out the specifics and the theatrics to make it work in our society today.

buddy
10-28-2011, 05:29 PM
-so i have to do presentation for class
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-presentation again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get up there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-teacher says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, people are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-girls start laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of teacher's desk
-minor concussion
-teacher thinks I was on drugs
-classmates call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school

i want what this guys smoking

+2 .. lol ... good shit, good shit ...

my take on mary jane? just treat it as cigarettes or alcohol ...

Phozy
10-28-2011, 06:02 PM
Option 1, go vansterdam! :troll:

Shouldnt we be able to do what we want with our bodies? As long as it doesnt hurt anyone else, go for it.

Make your own decisions, and if you still decide to smoke it, then win=win situation : Gov. gets money, you get high :D

I definetly dont smoke, but there should be fairness and a choice for everyone

dinosaur
10-28-2011, 09:27 PM
These are the problems I see with legalizing pot...

1. How do you establish a level of intoxication? We have regulations with alcohol (.08) which is a fairly specific....on average, a couple beers....1 strong mixed drinking, etc. How do you establish the same for pot? 1 joint? couple tokes? 3 hits from your bong? over what period of time?

2. How do you test the level of intoxication? Road side blood test? How many bags of Doritos you can eat? The redness of your eyes? How many Phish songs you can sit through without getting sick of it?

3. Do we establish similar laws to those of smoking cigarettes? Not in restaurant? 10 feet from the doors of public places? Or will it be the same as alcohol and you are not allowed to have a lit joint in public places (like drinking an open beer can on the street)? Do you want your employee to take his smoke break and come back high as fuck?

4. I dont think that legalizing pot will stop or slow-down the domestic drug trade in the province. Not everyone is going to want to go to the store to pick up a pack of joint and pay through the ass in taxes. People will go where it is cheaper. People can make the argument that there is no "underground" cigarette trade, but you can exactly grown tobacco in your bedroom closet or basement. You can grow pot very easily and still sell it cheaper than the store, and not have to pay tax.

Plus, cutting the age at 19, I think, will encourage the underground drug trade. I know I certainly didn't just start smoking it at 19....I think I was 13-14ish? It will be a lot easier for John Doe to go to a dealer than stand outside a store waiting for someone to boot for him.

Legalizing pot is not just an overnight decision that the gov't can make (I know you guys know this). It will cost millions creating laws, by-laws, testing, developing intoxication detectors, instigating regulations, establishing a branch of the gov't that oversees regulation, etc....YES, the argument can be made that with taxing the product, those millions will be recouped, but when? 5 years? 10 years? Our province already has a huge deficit, and personally, I am tired of watching the news and seeing more shit getting cut to fund something else.

5. Will the gov't be the only provider of pot? Are we going to allow competitive brands? There are several different type of pot....do we only allow indicas? stativas? who decides potency?

It is a lot more complicated than just buying your previously bought bag of dope rolled in a pretty little joint in gov't issued container from the corner store... How many mom and pop corner store do you think are going to be happy selling drugs now?

As I said in a previous post, I get that I am the minority on this issue. I smoked bags of it when I was younger, but I grew up and now find it a pain in the ass the deal with (job-wise). I don't expect it to ever become "legal", and I really hope it doesn't, but I am also not really into making it more of a criminal offense.

Leave it as it is now....still illegal, but we deal with it.

325isMSPORT
10-28-2011, 10:07 PM
vansterdam - then lower fuel taxes goddamn

MindBomber
10-28-2011, 10:20 PM
Current results


Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.

29

Option 2: Support the Surrey Basement Farming Industry - Marijuana should not be legalized, but don't institute mandatory minimums.


4

Option 3: Stoner Witch Hunt - Institute mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana related crimes, Harper's new super prisons have vacancies to fill.

1

Everymans
10-28-2011, 10:28 PM
legalize it and tax the hell out of it. Illegal drug sales are within the billions in this province alone. Tax that shit and you have more revenue to build fancy dancy bridges and stadiums. When it becomes legal, then you can take all of the grow ops out in Nelson and turn them into agricultural land.

Unfortunately, with the weed market gone, the gangs will turn to other drugs for profits. and i have a good feeling a lot of drug dealers won't conform to being taxed, so they will also start going more into a cocaine/heroine/meth direction instead of getting legit jobs. The coke industry will become more in demand, and the coke industry offers a shitload more money. and more money equals more problems. Although it will never reach the peak of the 80's miami coke wars because of our location and our demand, the crime will stay and possibly rise if pot is legalized. i still support it though, as the tax benefit and the decrease in pot deals will lessen.

I for one hate weed. I think it's a very addictive substance that makes people retarded. Everytime I smoke it I turn into a zombie... What the fuck is so good about that? Last time I did it i had a pot cookie which gave me a mini seizure. nothing good came from it. but nothing good comes from cigarettes yet people still buy them. I'm an avid beer drinker because I enjoy the taste and I enjoy the short term affects, although I do believe that consuming too much over a long period of time effects everything in your body. (obviously)

rexsomnii
10-28-2011, 10:48 PM
+1 for option 1

V4NC1TY
10-29-2011, 12:29 AM
I'd go for option 1, but let's be realistic here :troll:
Tough luck tryna change their minds and get a legislature like that passed. I think the farthest they'll go is de-criminalizing it. But hey, what do I know, I'm just a dumbass kid

Gh0stRider
10-29-2011, 12:35 AM
Option 3

StylinRed
10-29-2011, 08:52 AM
wow holy shit.

so you don't take drugs recreationally.

i'm sure you've taken some kinda drug medically.

only drug i ever needed medically that addled the brain was when they put me under to set my broken arm; i wouldn't be against it if i was prescribed something for a medical reason though


what about caffeine? a lot of people drink it recreationally, or even for "work".

you can't rule caffeine out, it's just as much as a drug as anything else.

caffeine doesnt confuse the mind though but yeah i've pretty much cut that out too except for the odd cup of tea (used to drink soda pop like it was water)


im not against drugs/medicine i just prefer not to take anything unnecessary that is detrimental/confuses the mind etc
(i dont even pop ibuprofens when i have a headache/pain unless i cant stand it)

!SG
10-29-2011, 08:54 AM
from economic pov,

legalize it, tax the shit out of it, watch it be BC's greatest contributor to GDP, and be one commodity to be positive when times are tough, and be even more positive when times are good. kinda like alcohol.

cressydrift
10-29-2011, 10:22 AM
I used to smoke, was casual in high school, then regular when I got out, then back to casual and have not touched the stuff for a while. It does have side affects, and your crazy to deny this. It makes you lazy, un-motivated and have a skewed perception on reality. Not to mention its terrible for your lungs (for regular smokers).

If you look at Amsterdam, its legal but only to be bought and smoked in a coffee shop. You can't be on the the street anywhere and spark up a joint, just like you can't sit in a park and drink (legally) here.

To many pros to legalize it,

- Virtually knocking out all income for gangs
- 12-17 males will be less likely to have tried marijuana in high school due to its difficulty to obtain
- Obvious tax gains
- Real jobs that contribute to community
- Less hassle for police cracking down on gangs, and grow ops
- Less power theft
- Less destruction on environment from grow ops (out door)
- More awareness on its medical capability
- A lower inmate population in our prison system, costing us less money
- A chapter closed on a on going debate that waste's time from the worlds/countrys/provinces real issues

StylinRed
10-29-2011, 11:30 AM
grow ops would still exist; organized crime grow ops would legalize themselves as some are now; they have licenses to grow but simply grow more than they're allowed (look at some of the last few busts reported in the paper; the grow ops had licenses but not for the amount they grew)
grow ops would exist outside of the law to skip out on giving the govt. a cut and gangs make most their money from exporting

it would be very hard for the govt to profit from pot since the plant wont be illegal people will just grow it in their homes for personal use without feeling they're doing something wrong

it wouldn't be as profitable as you imagine because of personal growing (personal grow ops have an impact already could you imagine when people dont have a stigma that they're doing something illegal over them? you'll see more home grows)

if you try to make personal growth illegal how are you going to stop it? or check for it? personal grow ops aren't going to be using boat loads of electricity; its just like with people who make beer&wine @ home which uses more resources and is more complicated than watering a potted plant

the only way the govt. could hope to profit from this is to export marijuana like the gangs do; the majority of a gangs profit from grow ops isn't from being sold to users in Canada but from exporting it into the US etc (just like with mexican weed growers they export it into the states) gangs cant exactly profit within canada from pot anymore because so many people are growing it on their own

the amount of money used to try and control the industry would be too much of an endevour and risk (as it will likely fail) to make that switch to legalization not to mention the viability as proft comes from export

if the govt. makes it legal it won't be from the hope of profiting from it but to win votes but they'll be enraging their closest ally next door

good luck with that



fail as you wish but that's the reality of the situation

tonyvu
10-29-2011, 11:33 AM
Stoners are probably the most harmless people i know... I'd rather deal with a guy whos greened out rather than someone whos raging over something cause they're drunk.

Option 1 plz

MindBomber
10-29-2011, 11:49 AM
There's so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin..

Brewing wine and beer is of comparable difficulty to growing pot, but the results of home brewed alcohol are generally horrible in comparison to commercially produced alternatives. It's also a pain in the ass, and having a quick sample of something different would require a massive amount of effort and producing a large quantity. By your logic, liquor stores wouldn't exist, because people would brew and distill their own alcohol. The opposite is true, and the exact same principles are directly applicable to pot.

The only potential profit comes from export, what the fuck are you talking about?
The local dispensaries all signed up thousands of customers within the first months of opening, never mind all the people who purchases from illicit sources, the domestic market is massive. Make it legal and that market would only grow.

Will Americans be happy if we legalize marijuana?
No, of course not, but Canadians shouldn't give a fuck about how another country feels about a relatively minor issue. It would be better for us if they actually had some measure of gun control in America, but they don't care what we think. Aside from that, California is closer to legalization that we are, I think they're a little more focused on their own country legalizing than us.

grow ops would still exist; organized crime grow ops would legalize themselves (as some are now; they have licenses to grow but simply grow more than they're allowed)
grow ops would exist outside of the law to skip out on giving the govt. a cut and gangs make most their money from exporting

it would be very hard for the govt to profit from pot since the plant wont be illegal people will just grow it in their homes for personal use without feeling they're doing something wrong

it wouldn't be as profitable as you imagine because of personal growing (personal grow ops have an impact already could you imagine when people dont have a stigma that they're doing something illegal over them? you'll see more home grows)

if you try to make personal growth illegal how are you going to stop it? or check for it? personal grow ops aren't going to be using boat loads of electricity; its just like with people who make beer&wine @ home which uses more resources and is more complicated than watering a potted plant

the only way the govt. could hope to profit from this is to export marijuana like the gangs do; the majority of a gangs profit from grow ops isn't from being sold to users in Canada but from exporting it into the US etc (just like with mexican weed growers they export it into the states) gangs cant exactly profit within canada from pot anymore because so many people are growing it on their own

the amount of money used to try and control the industry would be too much of an endevour and risk (as it will likely fail) to make that switch to legalization not to mention the viability as proft comes from export

if the govt. makes it legal it won't be from the hope of profiting from it but to win votes in the face of enraging their closest ally next door

good luck with that

StylinRed
10-29-2011, 12:59 PM
There's so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin..

Brewing wine and beer is of comparable difficulty to growing pot, but the results of home brewed alcohol are generally horrible in comparison to commercially produced alternatives. It's also a pain in the ass, and having a quick sample of something different would require a massive amount of effort and producing a large quantity. By your logic, liquor stores wouldn't exist, because people would brew and distill their own alcohol. The opposite is true, and the exact same principles are directly applicable to pot.

my fault what i was trying to say is that even with something as complex (in comparison) as beer/wine brewing @ home you still have a lot of people doing it; with something so easy as watering a plant you'll have far more people growing @ home.

where the alcohol industry thrives is due to the different flavours and the fact that home brew is complicated and a large endevour whereas pot growing isnt

The only potential profit comes from export, what the fuck are you talking about?
The local dispensaries all signed up thousands of customers within the first months of opening, never mind all the people who purchases from illicit sources, the domestic market is massive. Make it legal and that market would only grow.

that's because its illegal for those who use local dispensaries to grow on their own

and yes export is where the money is and that's very true for the gangs etc profit in selling to joe-blow is left for high school kids

Will Americans be happy if we legalize marijuana?
No, of course not, but Canadians shouldn't give a fuck about how another country feels about a relatively minor issue. It would be better for us if they actually had some measure of gun control measures in America, but they don't care what we think.

im not saying its right/wrong to care about what the USA thinks or what we would like the USA to do that would benefit us... regardless of that it is what it is... we as a nation are going to continue to care what the US says about this

Aside from that, California is closer to legalization that we are, I think they're a little more focused on their own country legalizing than us.

if that were to happen i could see Canada leaning closer to legalization (prospect of export and less of an issue of US bitching) but California itself has the concern of the Federal govt. on their ass like they say they would be (and have been re: shutting down dispensaries) if Cali legalized it.

Jermyzy
10-29-2011, 02:36 PM
Just came across these stats while I was doing an online continuing education course on substance abuse. From Canadian Centre of Substance Abuse, costs attributable to substance abuse (2002 stats however, but still gives a good idea)

Tobacco: $17 billion
•Healthcare costs: $ 4.4 billion
Alcohol: $14.6 billion
•Healthcare costs: $ 3.3 billion
•Law-enforcement costs: $ 3.1 billion
Illegal Drugs: $ 8.2 billion
•Healthcare costs: $ 1.1 billion
•Law-enforcement costs: $ 2.3 billion

Based on these stats, it seem silly that they make drug use illegal but legalize tobacco and alcohol when they are in fact costing society more. :suspicious:

Jermyzy
10-29-2011, 02:50 PM
Some more stats

CCSA Mortality and Morbidity
The Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse (CCSA) data from 2002 also revealed a high cost in terms of mortality for tobacco, alcohol, and illegal drug use



CCSA Mortality and Morbidity

Tobacco accounts for: Alcohol accounts for: Drug use accounts for:
16.6% ----------------3.6% ----------------0.8% of all deaths
16.7%----------------6.2% -----------------2.0% of all potential years of life lost (PYLL)
10.3% ---------------7.4%-----------------1.6% of acute-care hospital days

Teh Doucher
10-29-2011, 08:48 PM
man not my weed too. i already get fucking taxed enough...

Death2Theft
10-29-2011, 10:04 PM
Uh so it's legal to grow for yourself now?
they export it into the states) gangs cant exactly profit within canada from pot anymore because so many people are growing it on their own

Ronin
10-29-2011, 10:11 PM
I've added a poll for you.

It probably didn't work because options can't exceed 100 characters.

MindBomber
10-30-2011, 01:04 AM
I've added a poll for you.

It probably didn't work because options can't exceed 100 characters.

Thanks man :thumbs:

V4NC1TY
10-30-2011, 01:25 AM
man not my weed too. i already get fucking taxed enough...

by nammer jammers or the government? :troll:

orgasm_donor
10-30-2011, 01:06 PM
never had a sip of alcohol either or cigs

wont do anything that i find unnecessary that addles the brain or damages the body

I'm pretty much the same way. Always have been. Some people just don't understand this.

maybe it is because you are 14 :troll:

anything above 16 and you did not try beer once or a cig..... you must be.. :heckno:

I'm 38 and have never had any drugs with the exception of painkillers for kidney stones or in the hospital. I have had some alchohol but I have never been drunk - don't like the feeling of even being tipsy. Its a choice...and not the wrong choice in my opinion.

That said, I think legalizing it is a good option in the short-term sense of things. Who knows what the long term will bring.

iEatClams
10-30-2011, 02:45 PM
I am between 2 & 3.

Here is the thing....I use to smoke it. Not wake and bake style, but I use to smoke a lot of it. With friends, at parties, at lunch in jr high and high school, camping, weekends, etc...then I hit 23-24ish and was like "meh", I'm done.

Now, at 31, I think the shit stinks. I find it annoying, I think the whole "pot" culture is gross, dirty, and immature, and I hate dealing with it.

I manage 5 apartment buildings and find that this is my BIGGEST problem. I get it. Everyone smokes pot. I am a minority in this province when it comes to this issue. My issue is, is that it effects others. It stinks up the halls, it smells up your neighbours' apartment, etc. It also presents a less than ideal place to live for potential tenants.

I know the same can be said for cigarette smoke, but I don't get high from your cigarette smoke. All my buildings are non-smoking buildings, so if I smell cigarette smoke, I can tell people to go outside, give warning letters, and potentially end their tenancy. The problem with pot smokers is, "well, I don't smoke pot". I can't do anything.

If I sit next to a guy getting drunk, I don't get drunk. If I sit next to a guy smoke pot, I get high. And, from what I understand, there are no mechanisms to detect impaired drivers that are high, so there is another issue.

Rant done...proceed to fail as I am sure few other share my opinion.

I'm between 1 & 2 as well. I think its messed up that growing 6 plants will get you automatic jail time, or how rapists will get less jail time than many pot growers.

However as you get older, you don't want that overwhelming pot smell in public places, especially with children around etc. How are we going to enforce or restrict uses? allow it in designated areas like certain parks or beaches where it's more open ? who knows??

Theres a lot of things that must be considered before it becomes fully legalized.

hotshot1
10-30-2011, 05:12 PM
It's infuriating to read that people actually want to jail others for using a natural plant that helps manage so many different ailments.

Think about it... you want to put people in a fucking box, away from people in society, and basically ruin their lives because they smoked something that has a lot of positive effects. It's not as if people lose their minds and commit crimes while under the influence.

We're living in the 21st century, in the age of the internet where we have so much information and yet, people still have primitive views about pot. I can't even read some replies because I get pissed off.

Happy
10-30-2011, 05:24 PM
Stoners are probably the most harmless people i know... I'd rather deal with a guy whos greened out rather than someone whos raging over something cause they're drunk.

Option 1 plz

yeah stoners are harmless
but the guys moving kilo's arent

NJMR
11-01-2011, 03:46 PM
alcohol and tobacco have caused more deaths than all illegal drugs combined, the government should not be allowed to tell us what we can or cannot put in our own bodies.

MindBomber
11-01-2011, 03:54 PM
yeah stoners are harmless
but the guys moving kilo's arent

hence why it should be legalized, to reduce the need to purchase from illicit sources who endanger British Columbians, although it's already quite easy to get approved to buy from a compassion club.

Is it possible to have a referendum on legalizing marijuana, like the idiots did with hst?

Drizzt Do'Urden
11-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Banning drugs is unconstitutional to our rights and freedom. If I'm not hurting/bothering anyone with what I'm doing, I should be allowed to do whatever I want.

I agree with what Graham Hancock said about this issue in that there are already laws to protect us from the harm that drugs and alcohol can potentially cause. If somebody gets real hammered and picks a fight, there's already an assault law in place to protect that person in the fight. We don't need a thousand different laws to rule out what we can and cannot do with our own bodies. It's a waste of money and resources, and on top of that, it's not even keeping drugs away from anyone! If you want it, you can get it.

Just keep it simple. If you're doing whatever the hell you're doing in your own home, and not bothering anyone else, go do the fuck out of it.

asahai69
11-01-2011, 04:02 PM
i like the way it is now. if the government started selling weed. we would be paying 15-20 bucks a gram. fuck that shit

Gululu
07-15-2015, 08:16 AM
I simply cannot believe that this city has officially turned into a big drug den community with all these vapour lounges popping up all over town. A lot of the younger people from all ethnicities in this city has now turned and openly accepted the (frequent) use of marijuana in their daily lives. A lot of these small shops tend to operate under the fake Medical pretense and not reporting income for tax evasions. Hard to say they are honest people those running these types of businesses (probably due to fact 90% of the owners have criminal related backgrounds?). My question is why isn't the city doing anything to prohibit theses weed shops? Weed is not safe, this is a fact. Yes, Natural substances such as herbs in this case can also be harmful to the mind and body. I just hope young people of this city can be aware and stay away from such bad influences. I'm not sure why we are not openly opposing grow ops and these grey area businesses.

CRS
07-15-2015, 08:19 AM
I simply cannot believe that this city has officially turned into a big drug den community with all these vapour lounges popping up all over town. A lot of the younger people from all ethnicities in this city has now turned and openly accepted the (frequent) use of marijuana in their daily lives. A lot of these small shops tend to operate under the fake Medical pretense and not reporting income for tax evasions. Hard to say they are honest people those running these types of businesses (probably due to fact 90% of the owners have criminal related backgrounds?). My question is why isn't the city doing anything to prohibit theses weed shops? Weed is not safe, this is a fact. Yes, Natural substances such as herbs in this case can also be harmful to the mind and body. I just hope young people of this city can be aware and stay away from such bad influences. I'm not sure why we are not openly opposing grow ops and these grey area businesses.

brb, going to go my opiate den.

Gululu
07-15-2015, 08:57 AM
brb, going to go my opiate den.

you make interesting point.

I'm going to say this. Marijuana is the 21st century Opiate.

History repeat itself. Remember the opium wars? Anglo-Saxons extracted mass amounts of opium from British India, purposely marketed and sold them to colonies, foreign nations, and even its own citizens. Like today's marijuana, Opium was also advertised as the cure for a whole bunch of illnesses/diseases (a cure for all -- sounds familiar?).

Lethargic, lazy, striped of ambitions, skinny weak, the user's sanity is lost, heard of the phrase "sick man of Asia". well this is exact same spin for marijuana game in the current day. perhaps, when decades later we realized the harm of marijuana. it would be too late, perhaps a "sick man and woman of Canada" would be adequate description to demography.

http://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/home/twamoran/urbanghostsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/opium-smoking-den-calcutta.jpg

CRS
07-15-2015, 11:04 AM
Gululu,

You know that the marijuana originates (or at the very least has the earliest written record) stemming from China, right?

DragonChi
07-15-2015, 11:24 AM
Opiates work in a different mechanism as THC. I think that weed has a far less potential for abuse. There will always be a percentage of the population vulnerable to addiction.

There are horders, alcoholics, crackheads, and heroine addicts. Would you put someone addicted to weed in the same category as the above?

FYI, I don't smoke weed, but have friends that do. It's just not my poison.

multicartual
07-15-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm about 30 days clean from Marijuana after 12 years of use


Holy fuck, what a difference!


A huge reason why I'm moving, without the fog of marijuana, I have to look around and notice what a shithole Gastown has become in 2015. The homeless people are waaaaaaaaaaaay more fucked up and crazy than they were only a year ago.


Also, politically, I feel much more right wing off the devil's lettuce.

dragondragon99
07-15-2015, 11:48 AM
impossible i burnt out 5 years ago

melloman
07-15-2015, 11:48 AM
Gululu, what about your beloved asian restaurants in Richmond:

-Cash only to avoid paying taxes
-Pay employees in cash, no record checks and can be convicted criminals
-Cash only = laundering money?
-Lots are unsanitary and unkept = not food safe = health risk

WHY DOESN'T HEALTH CANADA GO AROUND AND SHUT THESE PLACES DOWN?!

Please go crawl back under your rock, there's no need to bump a thread from 2011.

jasonturbo
07-15-2015, 11:54 AM
Gululu, you say a lot of stupid shit, and that's okay, but in this case..

DO NOT FUCK WITH MY MEDICINE.

classified
07-15-2015, 12:04 PM
I'm about 30 days clean from Marijuana after 12 years of use


Holy fuck, what a difference!


A huge reason why I'm moving, without the fog of marijuana, I have to look around and notice what a shithole Gastown has become in 2015. The homeless people are waaaaaaaaaaaay more fucked up and crazy than they were only a year ago.


Also, politically, I feel much more right wing off the devil's lettuce.


So basically what your saying is you become less satisfied with things in your life and have started focusing on the bad side and trying to change it lol.

This is why I find myself always coming back to weed and dont try to cut it out completely, I become more like the person I used to be which was quick to criticize, not trying to understand everything, just wanting to get the job done, and overall less happiness. It really does change your perspective on life. Although with my vape I can use half a joints worth and get high 6 times from it, so Im not your typical user (and am strongly against smoking, not to mention how much more you end up using) . Only using at the end of the day now I never try to get into the retard state only enough to open the creativity, focus, and overall enjoyment of life on this spec of dust we call earth. Which to do this I use only until I begin to feel the high coming on then stop. Just like with drinking after your first drink or two you feel amazing and you keep going and it turns into a bad thing

Hondaracer
07-15-2015, 12:09 PM
Gululu,

You know that the marijuana originates (or at the very least has the earliest written record) stemming from China, right?

Fuckin mainlanders bringing their poisonous THC over here and killing our children

multicartual
07-15-2015, 12:32 PM
So basically what your saying is you become less satisfied with things in your life and have started focusing on the bad side and trying to change it lol.


The opposite is true... life on marijuana is too easy.


I need a challenge. Life's biggest rewards come from challenge, nothing worth having comes easy.


Looking around me at the culture we inhabit, if there is a chance I can make even a tiny impact in how men and women think about issues that are important to me, I will be greatly satisfied.


It is really easy to instantly gratify yourself when pounding some new young slut, party with some people and do some good drugs, play a round of a game and feel good when you win; all of these are sooooo petty. As petty as the satisfaction of collecting yellow Minion dolls.


Everyone knows it, whether they want to admit it or not, but things in our society are extremely fucked up. Like I said, it would be so humbling and so much of an accomplishment to feel that efforts I put towards the betterment of culture has had an impact, much, much greater than driving a Lambo after making a new porn site or writing some hit book about a topic I couldn't give a shit about inside of my heart.


Marijuana allows you to ignore the important, and focus on the trivial.

- Hey, if you have cancer, that might be a good thing.

classified
07-15-2015, 03:11 PM
lol it actually made me personally see the important, 6 months after starting using again I quit my job moved out of my downtown apartment, which my whole life revolved around clubbing, finding a mate, and video games. I began living a life of solitude and having this unquenchable thirst for knowledge(as I feel I knew nothing). Then trying to use that knowledge to help better the people around me and trying to understand and evolve my own existence. Which helping others is harder then you think as they are very stubborn to change. After a year of solitude (as in having around 1 real conversation week) I began to use my vape way to much (about a 1-2 joints worth a day) and my sentence forming had gone to shit, but with a benefit (so far) my ability to visually build concepts in my mind. You must always find a happy medium as with everything.

The biggest thing I have got into was how websites are made and potential to change all aspects of society, which I am almost at the level I need to be to make my vision a reality.

The perspective I now see the world in is nothing like what I used to. Partly due to being raised very religious which lead me to be narrow minded, stubborn, and in all just a person that should not exist in this day and age with the right teachings.

I find it comes down to the individual and their mental state. I have friends who when they started using they turned into those people you associate with "drug users", and there are others that have had it benefit their lives in literally countless ways.

These are all things which could be taught to everyone with the right drug counseling/ educational programs that would be paid for with the tax money from selling it

PS Im not trying to bring you back to the green side lol, as once you have seen the world from the other side it only helps you in your future. If anything I would suggest getting into some nootropics to help things in your brain like your neurotransmitters. These have helped me with some mental slowness and speed to access stored thoughts

white rocket
07-15-2015, 03:47 PM
Everything in moderation. Weed is not the devil or ruining our culture. Crack and meth do that pretty good on their own. Herb can open your mind, make you more tolerant, be relaxing, be inspiring, etc. It can also lead to being a huge video game playing, non-social, depressed burn out. It's all in the user and usage. Use it, don't abuse it.

I'm all for marijuana and it's benefits in today's society. From medicinal benefits to the plant being used for paper, rope, etc. That's a topic all in itself though. Blazing is kind of solitary for me nowadays. Like a glass of scotch after work. Feels good. Relaxing. Helps center my thoughts after a stressful day. Less damaging then most other crutches(like booze for example)

DGN23
07-15-2015, 04:37 PM
Gululu, I assume your stance on alcohol is the same as weed? If not, GTFO. You can say the same things about alcohol as you have said about weed. In fact you could almost replace any word you used for weed with alcohol and it would almost perfectly describe what it was like during prohabition. Alcohol can ruin your life, cause you to make stupid decisions etc. etc. It was illegal as well at one time. It was legalized and now it employees millions of people is a billion dollar business and governments collect a shit ton of tax on it.

Most people are able to drink alcohol and be responsible with it and it has zero negative effect on their lives or the ones around them. The same can be said for weed. I know many people that smoke as often as other people drink and they are very succesful. Obviously there will be idiots who will abuse it and let it ruin their lives and others; but that number will be unbelievably low compared to the ones that don't.

As far as your "weed shops" that the city doesn't close down. They probably don't exactly advertise "Get high here" in their front window so there is the small matter of getting proof that what you say goes on there actually goes on there. And if people are going there and getting high and not causing any problems then the city and the police probably aren't in too big of a hurry to look into it. There is far bigger issues going on than some "young people" smoking a little weed.

Vansterdam
07-15-2015, 05:46 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/250/007/672.jpg

Great68
07-15-2015, 06:21 PM
The opinion of those who have never tried pot are completely invalid to me.

When I hear comments like those from Guulluuugoogoo, I'm hearing the same rhetoric bullshit as of the "reefer madness" variety. Government brainwashing has done you well.

Don't blame POT because you turned into a lazy washout, blame yourself, chances are you are just a fucking lazy washout.

In my social circle I know a lot more people who smoke pot and lead productive, fullfilling lives than I know lazy washouts.

multicartual
07-15-2015, 11:59 PM
The opinion of those who have never tried pot are completely invalid to me.

When I hear comments like those from Guulluuugoogoo, I'm hearing the same rhetoric bullshit as of the "reefer madness" variety. Government brainwashing has done you well.

Don't blame POT because you turned into a lazy washout, blame yourself, chances are you are just a fucking lazy washout.

In my social circle I know a lot more people who smoke pot and lead productive, fullfilling lives than I know lazy washouts.

I've known a lot of smokers in my life, and one concurrent theme is that a lot of us do have one form of pain or another. Human beings function better under stress then they do under ease, for ease brings sloth into your life. Too much challenge is also bad, but a difficult life is more rewarding than one that lacks challenge. Marijuana puts people on autopilot. Everything is OK. There is little challenge. Life is on easy mode. Holy fuck, when I smoke pot, life is easy as fuck!

Pain is actually good for you. Marijuana might numb pain a little TOO much. Everyone goes through some shit or another in life, and like the famous quote in Rocky, it isn't how hard you can hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep going. There truly is a sweet spot in life where you can rise up to the challenges you face and excel as a human being. Not feeling challenged is actually something very bad for you, but not feeling challenged feels so damn good. A lot of people suffer from life that lacks challenge, perhaps not nearly as much as people who are overburdened with challenge, but perhaps not being challenged is actually a more dangerous thing for your mental being than being overly challenged. Being overly challenged, we have people and a society that will help you, while being under challenged and wealthy, you'll be surrounded by sycophantic parasites that will encourage your self-destruction for their own profits.

Holy shit, am I sounding like CiC up in this bitch or what?

It is a theory of mine that marijuana tends to harm ambition but heals emotional wounds. After years I finally was able to quit marijuana and recover from a personal tragedy that happened a few months before started smoking weed, I believe it is a medicine, however, it is a medicine that is abused thoroughly. Many people never recover from emotional, physical, and spiritual trauma, and instead bury their pain under various different forms of vice. I would love to see marijuana legalized, and the money go towards free therapy and counselling for people in need. Many of Vancouver, and I dare say, global ills could be mitigated if therapy were cheaper.

Fuck, $120 an hour to help you gain introspection is a LOT more expensive than just smoking dope and forgetting your pain!

Adorkami
07-16-2015, 12:40 AM
Just googled what Colorado brought in for 2014 from taxing marijuana and they made 53 mil according to CNN. Their population is a bit higher than ours but 40 - 50 mil in taxes plus less spent in policing marijuana sounds like a good idea. I'm in favor of legalization but I do believe you should not be able to smoke weed in public areas. People should be free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't impact others.

Tone Loc
07-16-2015, 08:11 AM
Personally, I smoked weed and had edibles a few times (less than 5 "sessions") in high school. I don't do it now and I am not inclined to do so. It's just not my thing.

That being said, marijuana is shown to be less damaging, both to oneself and the surrounding society, than alcohol or even tobacco. Last I checked, a joint has less carcinogens than your average cigarette. And I've never heard of anyone having too much marijuana and start beating their wife/kids in rage... like alcohol does.

IMO it should be legalized and regulated, which would put a stop to a lot of gang activity as well as ensure there are "safe" supplies of marijuana that are not laced with other more dangerous substances. Let's face it, everyone who wants to do marijuana already does it. And no cop in the Lower Mainland will charge someone who is carrying a personal amount on them. And people who choose to do it the legal way can get a Green Card to do so. And nearly everyone has a "friend" who knows where to get marijuana for a relatively low price. The list goes on...

So why not just start making money off it? Seems like a great way to fund Translink to me instead of continuously punishing car users...

white rocket
07-16-2015, 10:31 AM
multi: pretty much the perfect post. I agree with every word wholeheartedly. Like I said, everything in moderation. Not sounding like CiC at all.

Legalizing it would seemingly cure so many problems. Superb tax revenue; ensure unlaced, quality, safe product; eliminate the black market and remove the criminal element for a great natural product good for many things even outside the amazing medicinal benefits. Fuck Harper and his anti-drug retard views.

Hondaracer
07-16-2015, 11:28 AM
"Laced" weed is a myth, unless you're lacing it yourself.

I agree that the govt should probably move towards legalization just based on how much of a blind eye they turn to dispenceries. Dispenceries are all a joke, -anyone- with any sort of story can get a card and buy via dispenceries, it's almost impossible not to be approved.

With that said, if your somone who wants o debate it at a federal level and are willing to throw away your vote towards the liberals in hopes of legalization, you're an idiot. It's basically legal now, everyone smokes everywhere, everyone carries large amounts without fear of prosecution, no one has a second thought about the police as is. You don't need to elect a liberal government to feel safe about smoking.

white rocket
07-16-2015, 02:48 PM
^true. Laced was a poor choice of words. Unsure of quality when buying from an unknown source is more what I was going for. Not "whoops, there's coke in my doob". Ha!

Agreed that everyone is pretty lax about the rules and whatnot. Still though, it's only decriminalize, not completely legal. I mentioned Harper as he talks like weed is so bad and the epidemic needs to be stopped.

Tone Loc
07-16-2015, 03:06 PM
I simply cannot believe that this city has officially turned into a big foreign investment community with all these empty homes popping up all over town. A lot of the younger people from all ethnicities in this city has now turned and openly accepted the reality that buying a home is a pipe dream. A lot of these foreign investors tend to operate under the deceitful and corrupt pretense and not reporting income for tax evasions. Hard to say they are honest people those running these types of immigration (probably due to fact 90% of the owners have corrupt ties to the Chinese government?). My question is why isn't the city doing anything to prohibit empty homes? Foreign investment is not safe, this is a fact. Yes, Domestic investment, such as flipping homes in this case can also be harmful to the society. I just hope young people of this city can be aware and stay away from this city. I'm not sure why we are not openly opposing foreign investment and these empty houses.

Fixed it for you

multicartual
07-16-2015, 03:17 PM
^

Best post of 2015 :)

murd0c
07-16-2015, 03:20 PM
I'm more curious if Stylinred has had a sip of alcohol in the past 4 years?

:troll:

!e.lo_
07-16-2015, 03:33 PM
I'm more curious if Stylinred has had a sip of alcohol in the past 4 years?

:troll:

http://i.imgur.com/1ecBoxul.jpg

murd0c
07-16-2015, 03:49 PM
Wow I didn't even plan that...

!e.lo_
07-16-2015, 04:22 PM
Wow I didn't even plan that...

BULLSHIT

murd0c
07-16-2015, 04:44 PM
I'm not even joking, swear to the RS gods I didn't look at the time or plan it at all.

!e.lo_
07-16-2015, 05:10 PM
I'm not even joking, swear to the RS gods I didn't look at the time or plan it at all.

okay man http://i.imgur.com/X0yMG1b.png

white rocket
07-16-2015, 06:14 PM
haha! that's golden.

GojiraBNR34
07-17-2015, 03:13 PM
I don't partake, nor do I think it should be outlawed with mandatory minimum sentences like in the US.

It should be legal, look how much tax revenue Colorado is getting. And it should also be heavily regulated for quality. Not like alcohol where Labatt and Molson control the retail alcohol market in Canada and churn out crap beers.

There should also be research on how THC impairs your driving; we know the threshhold for impared driving is 0.05 (bylaw) or 0.08 (Criminal Code of Canada) percent concentration of alcohol in your blood by volume, but we don't know the equivalent for THC because cannabis is a schedule I drug in the US (which means is deemed to have no medical or research uses ever). Also, unlike alcohol, THC stays in your system for up to 10 days but its psychoactive effects generally last about 6-8 hours, so if you do a drug test you may not be impaired but still test positive for THC. I know drug tests aren't as common in Canada for employment unless it's a high risk job, but they're common in the US, and even welfare recipients take drug tests in some states.

Also I don't think that teenagers should smoke cannabis too much. Their brains are still developing and there have been very consistent, impartial studies showing that long-term cannabis use by teenagers can lead to neurological and cognitive issues later in life. If they're going to experiment, they should limit their use to a few times a month maximum, and vape instead of smoke the product. And vaping is far better for the lungs than smoking, no matter if you're a teenager or an adult.

multicartual
07-17-2015, 03:20 PM
And vaping is far better for the lungs than smoking, no matter if you're a teenager or an adult.


After I quit, the first 2 weeks I was coughing up huge chunks of tar. Now I don't cough at all anymore. Only been about a month now.

Eastwood
07-17-2015, 03:29 PM
Its the devils drug... And yes I'm a hypocrite...

Hondaracer
07-17-2015, 04:40 PM
After I quit, the first 2 weeks I was coughing up huge chunks of tar. Now I don't cough at all anymore. Only been about a month now.

That's how it always is it seems, I've taken 2/3/4 week breaks in the past and each time after about two you hack up a bunch of shit. Somewhat encouraging health wise lol

multicartual
07-17-2015, 05:42 PM
I'm so happy now that I've quit weed. Life feels like it has purpose and meaning again. The fog of weed feels so amazing and you can just live however you want and constantly say "fuck it" while enjoying the liberty that marijuana gives you to think the most bizarre and creative thoughts. It is a blanket of peace and tranquility until you realize it merely blunts things that adults would otherwise want to stand up and challenge.


After quitting weed, I was like, fuck it, I can't stand living around crackheads, vomit, feces, needles, litter and the constant barrage of insanity of the DTES. I'm moving to Marpole and I rented a house near 60th and Oak.


Marijuana is like the frog in the water for your brain. At first, it turns up the heat a little and you don't notice it. After years you might finally notice the boiling going on around you but the weed still feels so relaxing and good. It really is an odd fog, a blunting of your true emotions that allows the petty and trivial to take over your thoughts. On marijuana, who gives a shit about major issues because there's some new video game to play, or other distraction, or food, or whatever, to keep your mind entertained on a low level of thinking. Yes, of course there is a creative aspect to it, but few people are truly successful when they have a marijuana addiction because nearly everything in life is half-assed. I admit, I totally half-assed, or no-assed my book's marketing. I had the creative edge, but did not even understand WHY it was so important to me to get this message out there. Marijuana is a medication, I firmly believe it, but it can blunt, or soften life, too much.


Marijuana is not physically addictive, but mentally it is a sanctuary for your angst. If you quit weed, you begin noticing things about the world around you that you really might not like. You'll begin to notice people around you littering, for example. Fuck that is such a pet peeve of mine. While walking to the gym, I noticed some fucking fat poncho-wearing bitch just scarfing down a cheeseburger outside of Tinseltown this afternoon and then tossing the wrapper to the ground. Shit like that I would have never noticed while high because I'd be lost in my own entertaining thoughts.

StylinRed
07-18-2015, 12:19 AM
Was wondering why I was getting thanks to this old topic :lol

I'm more curious if Stylinred has had a sip of alcohol in the past 4 years?

:troll:

Nope, nothings changed there since :)

Jmac
07-18-2015, 05:44 AM
Legal, taxed, and regulated.

The current state of decriminalization and "look the other way" leaves consumers with no legal recourse should they be wronged.

!e.lo_
07-18-2015, 08:25 AM
After I quit, the first 2 weeks I was coughing up huge chunks of tar. Now I don't cough at all anymore. Only been about a month now.

oh come on....
http://i.imgur.com/uieWm3d.jpg

Gululu
07-18-2015, 11:54 AM
people will abuse this drug and it makes them into losers or wannabe rappers like these people here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cr0dFABkAE

so no I do NOT want marijuana to be legalized. It should be actively boycotted. which nobody seems to have the guts to stand up because this city has turned into pot city

multicartual
07-18-2015, 02:29 PM
Gululu single??? :whistle:

Nlkko
07-18-2015, 07:54 PM
Legalize and regulate, more education. Less crime, more revenue.

The smell are disgusting, should be common sense/ etiquette to not smoke it at public events/ public places. If it is legalized, there should be designated place people go to get high and not affect everyone else.

multicartual
07-18-2015, 08:44 PM
The smell are disgusting, should be common sense/ etiquette to not smoke it at public events/ public places.


A lot of marijuana smokers have a severe sense of entitlement to "freedom"


When I ride the seawall, at least a few times I will smell people smoking weed. Super annoying.