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t-o-o-MUCH
11-15-2011, 10:54 AM
Hi everyone, kindly ask if you guys could help me out and fill out this survey about Sustainable Homes, its will only take 3-4minutes, thanks so much! :fullofwin:
*edit, for people ages 20-34

http://snapsurvey.bcit.ca/snapwebhost/surveylogin.asp?k=132079615036

http://furnituredesignideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011-01-Minimalist-and-Sustainable-Home-Design-Niken-World-Collections-02.jpg

Leetastic
11-15-2011, 10:57 AM
Well...that was fast if you're under 20 LOL

Spectre_Cdn
11-15-2011, 10:58 AM
Done :alonehappy:

see.lai
11-15-2011, 11:04 AM
haha, i tried 20-24 after i finished the survey under 1 second :fullofwin:

t-o-o-MUCH
11-15-2011, 11:21 AM
SORRY! totally forgot to mention its for people age 20-34

Greenstoner
11-15-2011, 11:23 AM
done

freakshow
11-15-2011, 11:31 AM
Finished. Kicked me out at step 2 :(

Teh Doucher
11-15-2011, 11:32 AM
done

maxxxboost
11-15-2011, 11:33 AM
Finished.
Interesting.

MrGoodbar
11-15-2011, 12:07 PM
Done, it just makes me weep thinking that I can't afford a house in vancouver until I hit mid 30 or even 40. Even then marriage will put house buying on a serious delay. At least I have no debts.....

Presto
11-15-2011, 01:12 PM
The survey also isn't eligible for people that have purchased a home.

Mercy
11-15-2011, 01:32 PM
getting married should make it easier to buy a home not harder
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

Liquid_o2
11-15-2011, 01:36 PM
Done and done

E-40six
11-15-2011, 01:47 PM
The survey said I was finished after step 2 :alone:

JayEch
11-15-2011, 02:35 PM
DoNE!! but every time i read a question i thought of petrol head

http://www.jeremyclarkson.co.uk/uploads/JC-1.jpg

rb
11-15-2011, 02:36 PM
done

melloman
11-15-2011, 03:30 PM
Sustainable homes are good. Green homes, not so good at times.

With new technology, comes new disasters. (Vancouver Convention Centers "Green" roof)

Culverin
11-15-2011, 04:15 PM
Sustainable homes are good. Green homes, not so good at times.

With new technology, comes new disasters. (Vancouver Convention Centers "Green" roof)

^
What's wrong with the roof?

Hondaracer
11-15-2011, 04:41 PM
geothermal heating is basically a pipe-dream as well, its like buying a hybrid

jerche
11-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Done!

If you can, pls help a fellow BCIT student out too!

Thanks!

http://snapsurvey.bcit.ca/snapwebhost/surveylogin.asp?k=132070225751

shawn79
11-15-2011, 05:31 PM
Done! I enjoyed the survey, as i just finished a marketing project on green homes related

thank me; thank you!

optiblue
11-15-2011, 06:10 PM
done~

XplicitLuder
11-15-2011, 06:24 PM
done. interesting things

SiRV
11-15-2011, 06:49 PM
done, got something out of it too.. some more developer names to check out properties they offer!

Liquid_o2
11-15-2011, 06:51 PM
geothermal heating is basically a pipe-dream as well, its like buying a hybrid

Geothermal heating can work in certain situations and work very well. Definitely cannot be applied all the time.

RabidRat
11-15-2011, 07:07 PM
http://furnituredesignideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011-01-Minimalist-and-Sustainable-Home-Design-Niken-World-Collections-02.jpg

You're doing a project on sustainable living, but you show us a picture of a house with all the the lights on and nobody's home? =p

Death2Theft
11-15-2011, 07:21 PM
Geothermal is not needed at least not the way they are doing it now, way too complex and costly. For REAL sustainable homes youtube the "garbage warrior" movie.

bananana
11-15-2011, 08:51 PM
geothermal heating is basically a pipe-dream as well, its like buying a hybrid

The future is in photovoltaics.

Nightwalker
11-15-2011, 09:53 PM
Damn, already purchased a home.

RabidRat
11-16-2011, 04:13 AM
Geothermal is not needed at least not the way they are doing it now, way too complex and costly. For REAL sustainable homes youtube the "garbage warrior" movie.

My coworker's putting in geothermal right now. He said there were enough rebates that it actually made it worth it.

The future is in photovoltaics.

I dunno about that.. lead, mercury, and cadmium in the panels, and then more lead and mercury in the batteries? You put that crap on every house and I'd hate to see what happens once they start wearing out and piling up in landfills.

t-o-o-MUCH
11-16-2011, 08:16 AM
wow, greatly appreciate eveyone who filled out the survey, yeah some of these questions I didnt personally design, it was pooled by my whole set. as for the picture, i just threw it in there for some visuals lol, even if you end the survey early, doesnt mean your survey doesnt count, still valuable information.:neckbeard:

Great68
11-16-2011, 09:22 AM
geothermal heating is basically a pipe-dream as well, its like buying a hybrid

Not exactly,

Two big advantages of geothermal vs air source heat pump systems:

A) No noisy condenser fan on the outside of your house
B) Not affected by low ambient outdoor air temperature (Air source heat pumps are pretty much useless when outdoor air temperature is less than 5 degree celcius). Air source systems need a backup heater (Electric, gas) in such conditions, meaning the geothermal is much more energy efficient in the winter.

If you have the space and money to do it, it's a way better system.

melloman
11-16-2011, 09:38 AM
Culverin: Vancouver Convention Center roof, leaked the first day they did the tests. Added a TON of money to perfect it and make it the way it is now. If you/someone digs up the records, it'll show they went overbudget because of costly mistakes with the vapour barrier and drain mats.

Geothermal energy: :fuckthatshit:
Geothermal energy is a good resource up until a point. Look around BC, do you see any big geothermal plants? I've talked with a co-worker here at my firm, and he told me of 2 way up North.

The big DOWNSIDE to geothermal energy is maintenance to the main pipeline.
-First you have to find the heat source in the ground, that is capable of lasting long enough to make it sustainable.
-Second, the main pipeline likes to get clogged. You may think it is only steam coming up through the pipe. Yet with the steam you bring up small rock particles aswell, these rock particles will attach to the inner lining of the pipe and will harden. About every 5 years the pipe is so clogged with material that they need to pull out the pipe, and replace it with a new one.

Why a replcaement and just not clean out the existing? Supposedly when the rock hardens, it is practically as hard as normal bedrock (because that what it is..) so you would have to drill down through the pipe. So why not just rip the pipe out of the ground and put a new one way. It allows production to keep moving with a shorter downtime.

Locally, the best source of renewable energy still is, hydro. We don't get enough sun throughout the year to justify solar panels, yet BC has tons of water, and because we're a mountainous province, the water is always flowing.

Great68
11-16-2011, 10:36 AM
Culverin: Vancouver Convention Center roof, leaked the first day they did the tests. Added a TON of money to perfect it and make it the way it is now. If you/someone digs up the records, it'll show they went overbudget because of costly mistakes with the vapour barrier and drain mats.

Geothermal energy: :fuckthatshit:
Geothermal energy is a good resource up until a point. Look around BC, do you see any big geothermal plants? I've talked with a co-worker here at my firm, and he told me of 2 way up North.

The big DOWNSIDE to geothermal energy is maintenance to the main pipeline.
-First you have to find the heat source in the ground, that is capable of lasting long enough to make it sustainable.
-Second, the main pipeline likes to get clogged. You may think it is only steam coming up through the pipe. Yet with the steam you bring up small rock particles aswell, these rock particles will attach to the inner lining of the pipe and will harden. About every 5 years the pipe is so clogged with material that they need to pull out the pipe, and replace it with a new one.

Why a replcaement and just not clean out the existing? Supposedly when the rock hardens, it is practically as hard as normal bedrock (because that what it is..) so you would have to drill down through the pipe. So why not just rip the pipe out of the ground and put a new one way. It allows production to keep moving with a shorter downtime.

Locally, the best source of renewable energy still is, hydro. We don't get enough sun throughout the year to justify solar panels, yet BC has tons of water, and because we're a mountainous province, the water is always flowing.

If your post is directed at me, I was talking about Geothermal heat pump systems (Which are something you're likely to find in residential/commercial settings in BC), which are something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than what you're going on about.

Death2Theft
11-16-2011, 12:50 PM
Hmm Mountains = wind as well.

melloman
11-16-2011, 01:10 PM
Great68: I see that now.... =|

Hmm Mountains = wind as well.

Funny enough not all the time. Just finished a wind mill project up in Chetwynd BC, right when we finished and powered them up.. no wind for 2 weeks. :fullofwin:

GLOW
11-16-2011, 01:16 PM
fastest survey ever - didn't qualify lol

Hondaracer
11-16-2011, 04:23 PM
Not exactly,

Two big advantages of geothermal vs air source heat pump systems:

A) No noisy condenser fan on the outside of your house
B) Not affected by low ambient outdoor air temperature (Air source heat pumps are pretty much useless when outdoor air temperature is less than 5 degree celcius). Air source systems need a backup heater (Electric, gas) in such conditions, meaning the geothermal is much more energy efficient in the winter.

If you have the space and money to do it, it's a way better system.

oh i completely agree for the right applications such as single family homes etc. and the home owner/builder with the commitment to do it right has great potential

unfortunately the most common and accessible geothermal applications seem to be being employed in multifamily townhouse developments where it's being used as a big-selling point for the units, and because of this these units are typically running 30-50k more than basically the same unit without the geo setup

the problem is not so much the theory or practice behind it, it's the marketing and information regarding the implementation of the system, the ignorant consumer walks into these units thinking they will save money instantly through electrical etc.

IMO the -BEST- outcome for the -BEST- geo setup is simply to offset costs of heating

people walk into thinking their heating bill will be $0 each month

which is why i used the hybrid analogy in my original post, sure it's a good theory and enviromentally ethical, but your looking at a longggg term picture in terms of any actual savings.

Great68
11-16-2011, 06:06 PM
^Yeah, It should be a crime how some of the "green,sustainable" shit is marketed these days.