[toyobaru]

So I was mentioning to a few friends we should go for hot pot at Fatty Cow and one of my friends decides he wanted to do a review check of this place and this came up from Yelp, I found it pretty amusing haha:

PS: Im not meaning to bash on Fatty Cow but this was just too funny of a rant

Fatty Cow Seafood Hot Pot - Kensington-Cedar Cottage - Vancouver, BC (http://www.yelp.ca/biz/fatty-cow-seafood-hot-pot-vancouver#hrid:WXF-RrCg2s1l3SyzMshDMw)

User: Johnson C.
Posted: 9/26/2011

Full disclosure: I don't like hot pot. Very few years or so, I get some hot pot and then remember why I don't go for it... at all. It's a like a reaffirmation of my anti-hot pot vow. I know - you're doubting how Chinese I am, but there it is...

Before I begin - here's why hot pot sucks:
1) I go out to eat because (a) I'm too lazy to make a meal, (b) I can't cook for shit or (c) a combination of (a) and (b). Cooking my own food like a chump? FUCK THAT.
2) Boiling flavourless meat. In a cesspool of other random shit. Think about that one for second... for the same reason why I don't go to public baths, hot springs, or Jacuzzis because I don't want to simmer in a bacteria bath of ass juice with strangers -- I don't want to eat something slightly tainted with everything else that was previously introduced to the broth.
3) I always end up as the garbage can. Yes, I eat a lot and am a strong anchor in any AYCE/'Hey-Johnson-I-can't-finish-my-____' situation - a task I usually take on with glee. But when you want me to finish some shitty overcooked beef balls that have absorbed all 'flavor' from the crap that came before... ya, I have some balls for you eat; and I can guarantee they are cleaner and more flavourful.

Having said that - yes, I've had mind-blowing 'hot pot' experiences before - but they were (prepared) Vietnamese lau or shabu-shabu. Chinese hot-pot... the shame of a nation.

[END GENERAL HOT POT RANT]

Things I didn't like:
- we tried to go for a 6:30 reservation, they told us to come at 8:30. I didn't want to go for AYCE that late but I hate waiting even more, so I was okay with the late time if it guaranteed us a table. We showed up on time and waited another 30 minutes. Why the hell would you tell us to come later just to wait anyways?
- some cuts of meat were crappy; beef cubes appeared to be end trimmings - and dumplings were not properly thawed out - but the rest was mostly passable
- ~$20 per person for all-you-can-eat is about standard - but it's +$8 or so if you want flavoured broth. Seriously - who would go hot pot with plain water? Of course you have to add that on. This bring price closer to ~$25/person (if you have a small party). The four of us spent ~$120 + tips with a few beers. Much better meals can be had at this price point and Posh is way cheaper (and you get free eggs).
- no credit cards - I understand why most places don't take credit card and I'm totally cool with cash-only (standard for a lot of Asian places) - but these are usually for cheap joints. But at over $20/head - come on, I have break open my brick?
- broth was under-flavoured; refills were with generic broth mix so it got even more diluted. Think we had satay and something else - I couldn't taste the difference no matter which side of the pot it was cooked in.

Things I liked:
- beer is ~$4 for domestic bottle - pretty standard Chinese joint pricing, but it's a plus
- they didn't flinch when I told them we overordered (the quickest way to sate me is to feed me meh food) and just took back some of the meat slices from our table.
- open until 1AM on the weekends

I was told that Fatty Cow is one of the better hot pot joints in town (especially since Posh has gone downhill) - that may be so, but I won't be returning anytime soon. But you know how much I *love* hot pot.

[CP.AR]

:fuckthatshit:
fatty cow still best

[freakshow]

I'm craving Fatty Cow now...

[twitchyzero]

he thinks hot pot is basically a bacterial cesspool, yet he says he likes shabu-shabu?

:suspicious:

[drunkrussian]

^shabu shabu it's your own spit, saliva etc. whereas in hot pot you're dipping things in with 4+ people...could be what he means

Other than the cesspool part ( idon't really care about that) all those erasons are why i hate hot pot as well hahaha

[SumAznGuy]

he thinks hot pot is basically a bacterial cesspool, yet he says he likes shabu-shabu?

:suspicious:

You know it is a troll review since he complained the dumplings were still frozen. :heckno:

[dachinesedude]

how was that "hilarious"? seems like a typical review to me

best hot pot place IMO is Landmark, mind you they're not AYCE and expensive as fuck

is chubby lamb still good? the one on alexandra

[TOS'd]

^ +1 Landmark. Always go there.

[murmur]

Mongolian Little Sheep Hot Pot
(lansdowne mall)

i love their
- beer marinated lamb
- mongolian beef pancake

freaking expensive, but FREAKING good! :alonehappy:

[bcrdukes]

^ +1 Landmark. Always go there.

Without me. :alone:

[freakshow]

HKYK is so hard to resist though. It's dirty, and the meat quality is suspect.. BUT they have AYCE Fried/Steamed buns with condensed milk... :sweetjesus:

[TOS'd]

Without me. :alone:

When I said I always go there, I meant I always go across the street to eat and watch the people in Landmark eat. I pretend I am eating what they are eating. :alonehappy:

[shenmecar]

Thats not hilarious at all

[TRDood]

Garden City Hot Pot or Topgun (before it turned AYCE)

Johnson obviously has never been to hotpot with Hyde *waits for lobster comment*

[Yuffa]

The last time I went to Fatty cow is probably the last time I will ever go.

Everything tasted like it has been in the freezer for way too long. There was no fried fish skin. Service was crap. I felt rushed the whole time and the ladies gave us attitude the whole time.

Why go out for hotpot when you can have it at home for 1/3 the price? I always have left over to cook noodles with for the next few days too....=\

[NLY]

Hot Pot One in Aberdeen Center is really good.

The service is awesome and the food taste fresh.

http://hotpotone.com/

[91civicZC]

Someone please explain to a white person why you wouldn’t take credit cards? This is normal for Chinese places?

[Meowjin]

hot pot is just as bad as korean food.

[AzNightmare]

Last time I went to hotpot was at Fatty Cow.
Only cause a family thing and parents paying for the family. I would never go with a group of friends, cause I don't like hotpot that much to think it's worth it.

I rather go shabusen and eat some bbq ribs.


Someone please explain to a white person why you wouldn’t take credit cards? This is normal for Chinese places?

I believe it's cause the restaurant has to pay some fee to be credit card accessible?
And many Chinese places are just too cheap to do it.

[pastarocket]

Someone please explain to a white person why you wouldn’t take credit cards? This is normal for Chinese places?


Some Chinese restaurants accept cash payment only because they are being dishonest to Revenue Canada about their income. Cash only payments means they can under report their income and pay less tax. No audit trail exists when credit card payments are not accepted.

I would not say this is normal for all Chinese restaurants.

All restaurant owners of different ethnic backgrounds can lie to the government when it comes to filing their tax returns. This is not a Chinese restaurant phenomenon.

[Meowjin]

^um yes it is. All asian resteraunts in richmond are essentially cash only. unless we are talking about some of the Bigger ones.

[spoon.ek9]

HKYK is so hard to resist though. It's dirty, and the meat quality is suspect.. BUT they have AYCE Fried/Steamed buns with condensed milk... :sweetjesus:

HKYK just went out of business lol.

[AzNightmare]

Some Chinese restaurants accept cash payment only because they are being dishonest to Revenue Canada about their income. Cash only payments means they can under report their income and pay less tax. No audit trail exists when credit card payments are not accepted.

I would not say this is normal for all Chinese restaurants.

All restaurant owners of different ethnic backgrounds can lie to the government when it comes to filing their tax returns. This is not a Chinese restaurant phenomenon.

Well, it's also cause there is some processing fee (for the restaurant) that is charged for every credit card transaction. Or something like that.

I don't think it's only/if to cheat the income tax system.

I remember at some smaller computer stores (some chinese owned) had "discount prices" if you paid in cash or debit.
(Probably because they just make the customer pay for the store's credit card fee if the customer is going to use credit card.)

[AzNightmare]

^um yes it is. All asian resteraunts in richmond are essentially cash only. unless we are talking about some of the Bigger ones.

Yeah... mainly the chinese cafe restaurants, which are mainly everywhere in Richmond.
The bigger restaurants, like Top Gun or Richmond Sushi for example, should accept credit card.

[91civicZC]

So the restaurant is just scamming out of paying taxes, but I’m supposed to hope they aren’t scamming or lackluster on anything else, like say food and health regulations?

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

[unit]

hot pot is just as bad as korean food.

you're greek your opinion holds no weight around here.

[AzNightmare]

So the restaurant is just scamming out of paying taxes, but I’m supposed to hope they aren’t scamming or lackluster on anything else, like say food and health regulations?

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

:heckno: lol, like I said earlier, restaurants get charged for every credit card transaction.
Some places (many asian), figure it's not worth it if customers are still flowing,
and no one's complaining about not being able to pay with credit card.

Sure they might lose some customers, but many think they "earn" more money by not paying credit card fees. so :fuckthatshit:

How did food and health regulations come into factor now.

[niu99]

So the restaurant is just scamming out of paying taxes, but I’m supposed to hope they aren’t scamming or lackluster on anything else, like say food and health regulations?

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

nobody forced you to go to chinese resturants. they don't need your support.

[EmperorIS]

fuck you i didn't laugh

[toyobaru]

Some Chinese restaurants accept cash payment only because they are being dishonest to Revenue Canada about their income. Cash only payments means they can under report their income and pay less tax. No audit trail exists when credit card payments are not accepted.

I would not say this is normal for all Chinese restaurants.

All restaurant owners of different ethnic backgrounds can lie to the government when it comes to filing their tax returns. This is not a Chinese restaurant phenomenon.

lol how else can these honger richmond kids' parents buy them nice cars and overpriced jeans without cheating the system. haha

[dachinesedude]

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

you never gave business to a cash only resturant before? you missing out and over paying for asian food, unless you dont eat that kinda stuff

[Phil@rise]

I wonder if the guy eats chicken noodle soup? I mean gross it would have carrots and chicken and onions and noodles all in the same water!! So nasty

[91civicZC]

:heckno: lol, like I said earlier, restaurants get charged for every credit card transaction.
Some places (many asian), figure it's not worth it if customers are still flowing,
and no one's complaining about not being able to pay with credit card.

Sure they might lose some customers, but many think they "earn" more money by not paying credit card fees. so :fuckthatshit:

How did food and health regulations come into factor now.


If they are doing it because they don’t want the credit card fee, I get it, no problem there.

If they are doing it because they are scamming to not pay taxes (as it was suggested), then I have a problem. If a company is scamming the tax man, I can see them doing other things under the table or unregulated, such as their food handling and prep. If you are into tax evasion, what’s a little improper food storage to save a few bucks on cost and refrigeration?

I've worked in enough restaurants and have seen enough kitchens that I wouldn’t clean dishes in let alone eat food that was prepped in to stay the fuck away if a company isn’t totally on the up and up.

Just my personal opinion. I see a relationship in cutting corners in some things leading to cutting corners in others. Restaurants are not an easy way to make a buck. When you start looking for ways to save a few dollars, it’s amazing what standards are easily tossed out the window.

Again, just my opinion, stuff whatever you like it into your mouth.

[bcrdukes]

^
Yo, pictures of your R80T kthxbye.

[Spectre_Cdn]

Hot Pot One in Aberdeen Center is really good.

The service is awesome and the food taste fresh.

Hot Pot One (http://hotpotone.com/)

Meh. I went there last year, and the female manager (owner?) looked displeased and came by as if to double-check our order form when our table ordered several plates of lamb near the end of our meal. It's not like we couldn't finish it, and I don't expect to pay $25+ for a meal and only eat veggies and tofu. So in my opinion, their service is crap.

For these AYCE hot pot places, I hate it when the management feels reluctant to give you the food you order. If they don't want to serve the food that they offer on the order forms, in the quantities offered, then they shouldn't be AYCE.

/rant

[91civicZC]

you never gave business to a cash only resturant before? you missing out and over paying for asian food, unless you dont eat that kinda stuff

I’m Really Canadian cultured, and like very western Chinese food. I can probably count on my hands how many times I have been in Richmond in the last 10 years (not counting the airport). It just doesn’t hold much interest for me, and I have never gone out of my way to eat there.

To each their own.

[91civicZC]

^
Yo, pictures of your R80T kthxbye.

:lol

Don’t have any good ones. All stock, red, classic plates. Ill dig some up and post in the appropriate forum when I get the chance.

[Meowjin]

who the fuck cares.

[bcrdukes]

:lol

Don’t have any good ones. All stock, red, classic plates. Ill dig some up and post in the appropriate forum when I get the chance.

Classic bike meet next season. Fuck this hot pot noize. :buttrock:

[Meowjin]

you're greek your opinion holds no weight around here.

except i live in richmond for 13 years and i've been eating at asian resteraunts everyday for the past 3 years.

Seriously hotpot blows. And I've had good hot pot in asia (vietnamese fish style)

[murmur]

So the restaurant is just scamming out of paying taxes, but I’m supposed to hope they aren’t scamming or lackluster on anything else, like say food and health regulations?

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

you are bullshit. :fuckthatshit:
restaurants take cash don't necessary mean they are scamming revenue canada.
they take cash because they would prevent credit card scams and guaranteed revenue.

[king_2011]

HKYK just went out of business lol.

closed for good?

[Meowjin]

you are bullshit. :fuckthatshit:
restaurants take cash don't necessary mean they are scamming revenue canada.
they take cash because they would prevent credit card scams and guaranteed revenue.

:lol:

[gars]

I’m Really Canadian cultured, and like very western Chinese food. I can probably count on my hands how many times I have been in Richmond in the last 10 years (not counting the airport). It just doesn’t hold much interest for me, and I have never gone out of my way to eat there.

To each their own.

Personally - I go to a lot of the asian places because of the price. Hot Pot is more expensive - but most of the cafe style HK/Tawainese places - you can actually get a decent meal for under $10 for dinner. Most western places - you can hardly get something for under $15. Hell, even McDonalds will cost you $9 for one of the better burgers.

[91civicZC]

you are bullshit. :fuckthatshit:
restaurants take cash don't necessary mean they are scamming revenue canada.
they take cash because they would prevent credit card scams and guaranteed revenue.

You should probably read the whole thread before getting your hot little hands all sweaty on the keyboard. I’m not really sure what "you are bullshit" means, but I will take it that you are irritated by my post.

Note just a few posts down:

"If they are doing it because they don’t want the credit card fee, I get it, no problem there."

All good? Awesome. Thanks for posting.

[Senna4ever]

hot pot is just as bad as korean food.

Greek food is even worse.

[91civicZC]

Personally - I go to a lot of the asian places because of the price. Hot Pot is more expensive - but most of the cafe style HK/Tawainese places - you can actually get a decent meal for under $10 for dinner. Most western places - you can hardly get something for under $15. Hell, even McDonalds will cost you $9 for one of the better burgers.

For sure. I know I pay WAY to much for my westernized Chinese food. I’m not too worried, I gotta pay to get it the way I want.

As I said, to each their own. I know I could be missing some amazing flavors, I do enjoy trying new things, but I have found I’m just not a big Asian food guy.

Edit: I cant belive I have posted this much in a thread about hot pot.

[Meowjin]

Personally - I go to a lot of the asian places because of the price. Hot Pot is more expensive - but most of the cafe style HK/Tawainese places - you can actually get a decent meal for under $10 for dinner. Most western places - you can hardly get something for under $15. Hell, even McDonalds will cost you $9 for one of the better burgers.

honger food is also horribly bad for you but oddly delicious.

[Meowjin]

Greek food is even worse.

greek resteraunts. You never had my cooking or REAL greek food.

Seriously all greek resteraunts in van should just burn to the fucking ground.

The only one that is ok is kisamos and that is because they have youvetsi which is a bit different than most greek fare.

Vefa's Kitchen: Amazon.ca: Vefa Alexiadou: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gIiklDBtL.@@AMEPARAM@@41gIiklDBtL

Jason please buy this if you wanna know what real greek food is. This knowledge is outstanding and it shows the passion that goes behind cooking.

also might add heres another fantastic one

How to Roast a Lamb: New Greek Classic Cooking: Amazon.ca: Michael Psilakis, Barbara Kafka: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PkTfuRf2L.@@AMEPARAM@@51PkTfuRf2L

the writer is owner and head chef of anthos the only greek michilen starred resteraunt int he USA.

[unit]

dont you find it a bit hypocritical that you can say one food sucks based on a few restaurants you've tried in vancouver, then defend your own cuisine saying you have to try "real" greek food before judging?

[optiblue]

LOL halarious post and I agree with most points. Over the years, I've come to accept hot pot as a once in awhile type thing and my fav is still the little fat sheep one on alexander road~

But I didn't even know about this place, I will definately be trying it out as Richmond parking is AZZZZ.

[Manic!]

Someone please explain to a white person why you wouldn’t take credit cards? This is normal for Chinese places?

Credit card companies charge retailers 1.5% to around 3% every time someone uses a credit card. One of the big problems is owners don't know how much they are being charged because every card is different. Platinum and reward cards charge the retailer more. Also owners want to skip paying taxes.

[AzNightmare]

you are bullshit. :fuckthatshit:
restaurants take cash don't necessary mean they are scamming revenue canada.
they take cash because they would prevent credit card scams and guaranteed revenue.

It's really pastarocket's fault for posting this bullshit post. :lol
While it could be a possibility for some of the shadier places, I really doubt it for the better known cafes that have been up and running for years.

Some Chinese restaurants accept cash payment only because they are being dishonest to Revenue Canada about their income. Cash only payments means they can under report their income and pay less tax. No audit trail exists when credit card payments are not accepted.

[gars]

honger food is also horribly bad for you but oddly delicious.

It really depends on what you order. There's the new craze with the fish soup with rice noodles - like Deer Garden - but now quite a few places are copying them.

Those aren't actually that bad for you - not much oil, and the soup isn't that loaded with msg/salt.

Some of the other stuff - which is just deep fried, etc, isn't the greatest.

[Jsunu]

Does anyone have any anidoctal evidence at least that the resturant using cash to under report taxes?

The only personal experience I had was the fact that they preferred cash because it allowed them to pay a lot of their workers under the table (as a result of many of them being illegal immigrants in canada).

[Tim Budong]

You should probably read the whole thread before getting your hot little hands all sweaty on the keyboard. I’m not really sure what "you are bullshit" means, but I will take it that you are irritated by my post.

Note just a few posts down:

"If they are doing it because they don’t want the credit card fee, I get it, no problem there."

All good? Awesome. Thanks for posting.

I respect your opinions. Thats about it.

as for hotpot
i prefer to do it at home and save some money
In my mind, hotpot is a great way to gather friends and just chill, why go to AYCE and be rushed when I can sit at home or someone's place and just have a good time

[Jsunu]

I respect your opinions. Thats about it.

as for hotpot
i prefer to do it at home and save some money
In my mind, hotpot is a great way to gather friends and just chill, why go to AYCE and be rushed when I can sit at home or someone's place and just have a good time

+1,

The best hotpot is at home with your friends, buying the quality meat at great prices and "experimenting" with the soup broth :P.

I always felt like hotpot places markup their prices considerably. You are basically paying out of your ass for raw meat.

[Tim Budong]

+1,

The best hotpot is at home with your friends, buying the quality meat at great prices and "experimenting" with the soup broth :P.

I always felt like hotpot places markup their prices considerably. You are basically paying out of your ass for raw meat.

bingo!
at the end of the day, its tough to put a price on a lengthy family hotpot or with friends

I find it has a slightly different feel when its hotpot compared to a regular dinner

[skyxx]

Hate cleaning after. :fuckthatshit:

[Razor Ramon HG]

Seriously hotpot blows. And I've had good hot pot in asia (vietnamese fish style)

+1

I'm Chinese and I don't think hot pot is all that good either.. I think it's just a fun way to have food with a group of people. I do it every once in a while.

[bcrdukes]

dont you find it a bit hypocritical that you can say one food sucks based on a few restaurants you've tried in vancouver, then defend your own cuisine saying you have to try "real" greek food before judging?

Don't forget his authority on Vietnamese!

[Tim Budong]

this thread
fightclub much?

[drunkrussian]

So the restaurant is just scamming out of paying taxes, but I’m supposed to hope they aren’t scamming or lackluster on anything else, like say food and health regulations?

No thanks. If you can’t man up to pay taxes, like hell I’m going to support your bullshit restaurant.

Regardless, not my scene, but to all those who are into it, enjoy! I just didn’t get the cash only thing.

actually when you eat at a dirty chinese place in richmond that is cash only, it's assumed that what you're eating is probably not good for you and the sanitary conditions are crap. You eat it because you don't really care.

[Groot]

claypot hotpot has no time limit :fuckyea:

[Tim Budong]

actually when you eat at a dirty chinese place in richmond that is cash only, it's assumed that what you're eating is probably not good for you and the sanitary conditions are crap. You eat it because you don't really care.

being chinese, id say our dirty joints are probably 10x better than what it is in HongKong.

[Meowjin]

Don't forget his authority on Vietnamese!

damn fucking right.

I ate dog vietnamese style. If that doesn't make me the god damn authority on vietnamese food I don't know what does.

[RabidRat]

HKYK just went out of business lol.

WHAT THE FUCK?!

where will I go now for 3am dimsum :(

[drunkrussian]

being chinese, id say our dirty joints are probably 10x better than what it is in HongKong.

and someone from china will tell you hk is 10x cleaner than mainland china
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[Eff-1]

I am glad someone finally pointed out the asian "cash only" nonsense.

For small purchases like food courts, fine whatever. But if you're charging $20 per person, you should be accepting my damn credit card-- or at least my debit card.

[spoon.ek9]

closed for good?

it'll probably be taken over by some other ownership group or just become some other restaurant (which is usually the case)


WHAT THE FUCK?!

where will I go now for 3am dimsum :(

lol... iono. i didn't even realize there were people here who crave dim sum that late! but then, i went to dim sum once at midnight in china...

[king_2011]

How sure are you about this? I passed by hkyk a couple days ago and they were still open...so did they close their "doors" officially as of today? Hkyk was known to run from debt from suppliers and wages of the employees in the 90's so that's why they moved to richmond to open its doors here.



it'll probably be taken over by some other ownership group or just become some other restaurant (which is usually the case)




lol... iono. i didn't even realize there were people here who crave dim sum that late! but then, i went to dim sum once at midnight in china...
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[twitchyzero]

If they are doing it because they don’t want the credit card fee, I get it, no problem there.

If they are doing it because they are scamming to not pay taxes (as it was suggested), then I have a problem. If a company is scamming the tax man, I can see them doing other things under the table or unregulated, such as their food handling and prep. If you are into tax evasion, what’s a little improper food storage to save a few bucks on cost and refrigeration?

I've worked in enough restaurants and have seen enough kitchens that I wouldn’t clean dishes in let alone eat food that was prepped in to stay the fuck away if a company isn’t totally on the up and up.

Just my personal opinion. I see a relationship in cutting corners in some things leading to cutting corners in others. Restaurants are not an easy way to make a buck. When you start looking for ways to save a few dollars, it’s amazing what standards are easily tossed out the window.

Again, just my opinion, stuff whatever you like it into your mouth.

you've worked in the industry before..not sure why you would find it surprising that asian restaurants have worse sanitation standards than their western counterparts.

and seriously...the argument in here over whether greek or korean food sucks more :facepalm:
some things are just acquired taste...just because you dont like it doesn't mean it's garbage.

[StylinRed]

HKYK just went out of business lol.

u mean the illegal gambling wasn't able to sustain them? that doesn't make sense!

used to go @ like 2am ish for dimsum with the boys but haven't gone in ages

[TRDood]

http://dinehere.ca/richmond/kisamos-greek-taverna
This one? What should I order so I am not eating the "sweet and sour pork" version of Greek food.

Hot pot is good. :sweetjesus:

Recent meme I made
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/11/6/5446138e-0db1-457d-b975-d807bbd84481.jpg


greek resteraunts. You never had my cooking or REAL greek food.

Seriously all greek resteraunts in van should just burn to the fucking ground.

The only one that is ok is kisamos and that is because they have youvetsi which is a bit different than most greek fare.

Vefa's Kitchen: Amazon.ca: Vefa Alexiadou: Books (http://www.amazon.ca/Vefas-Kitchen-Vefa-Alexiadou/dp/0714849294)

Jason please buy this if you wanna know what real greek food is. This knowledge is outstanding and it shows the passion that goes behind cooking.

also might add heres another fantastic one

How to Roast a Lamb: New Greek Classic Cooking: Amazon.ca: Michael Psilakis, Barbara Kafka: Books (http://www.amazon.ca/How-Roast-Lamb-Classic-Cooking/dp/0316041211/ref=pd_sim_b_10)

the writer is owner and head chef of anthos the only greek michilen starred resteraunt int he USA.
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[Meowjin]

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youvetsi. It's like a greek stew/baked dish with orzo pasta lamb or beef and topped with mizithra cheese. Although the cheese is pricey most just do parmasan. Traditional ones are cooked in clay pots. I remember I was making it at home one day (I love this dish... its home cooking at its finest) and my father was having total authority over it. It's a "village dish" something that everyone knows how to make but takes alot of effort to make. But once its made GOD DAMN.

[Spectre_Cdn]

^ :sweetjesus:

[spoon.ek9]

How sure are you about this? I passed by hkyk a couple days ago and they were still open...so did they close their "doors" officially as of today? Hkyk was known to run from debt from suppliers and wages of the employees in the 90's so that's why they moved to richmond to open its doors here.




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100% sure. i know someone who has worked there for probably a decade now.

[ae101]

holy shit i can't believe it HKYK is closed, i might have to ask them next time im i pop back to HK since we know the owners quite well in HK

I respect your opinions. Thats about it.

as for hotpot
i prefer to do it at home and save some money
In my mind, hotpot is a great way to gather friends and just chill, why go to AYCE and be rushed when I can sit at home or someone's place and just have a good time
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also dun forget that u can also play nhl at home with ur buds while u eat hotpot :fuckyea:

[StylinRed]

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youvetsi. It's like a greek stew/baked dish with orzo pasta lamb or beef and topped with mizithra cheese. Although the cheese is pricey most just do parmasan. Traditional ones are cooked in clay pots. I remember I was making it at home one day (I love this dish... its home cooking at its finest) and my father was having total authority over it. It's a "village dish" something that everyone knows how to make but takes alot of effort to make. But once its made GOD DAMN.

i see the persians taught the greeks how to make Briyani like they taught spain to make Paella :troll:

[king_2011]

100% sure. i know someone who has worked there for probably a decade now.
You should ask the person if hkyk is just changing its name but same owner or new name and new owner for good.
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[king_2011]

100% sure. i know someone who has worked there for probably a decade now.
You should ask the person if hkyk is just changing its name but same owner or new name and new owner for good. I'm sure many of us on here would like to know.
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[vafanculo]

Where's a good place to buy a hotpot machine to cook at home? And TNT for the food? Lol white guy here.

I was a big fan of posh, but last time I went, their menu was almost cut in half it seems
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[Culture_Vulture]

Where's a good place to buy a hotpot machine to cook at home? And TNT for the food? Lol white guy here.

I was a big fan of posh, but last time I went, their menu was almost cut in half it seems
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If by hotpot machine you mean the little gas grills, then just about everywhere. London Drugs might have cheap ones; if not you can always try T&T.
There are also electric hot pot "machines", its basically a one piece stove that'd be plugged into a wall, you'd have to look in more Asian places for that. They're not that great though, because you're restricted to using that same stupid pot and most of the time it'll be too small :lol

[Vansterdam]

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youvetsi. It's like a greek stew/baked dish with orzo pasta lamb or beef and topped with mizithra cheese. Although the cheese is pricey most just do parmasan. Traditional ones are cooked in clay pots. I remember I was making it at home one day (I love this dish... its home cooking at its finest) and my father was having total authority over it. It's a "village dish" something that everyone knows how to make but takes alot of effort to make. But once its made GOD DAMN.

:sweetjesus: should holla next time u make that!

[Leopold Stotch]

this guy said what i've been thinking for years, thank you Johnson C

[Meowjin]

i see the persians taught the greeks how to make Briyani like they taught spain to make Paella :troll:

orzo is pasta, not rice. Also the use of cinnamon for the meat sauce is more of a turkish thing than persian.

[StylinRed]

:D turkey/persia all the same to me /shrug



;) i always rag on my greek friend about turkey/persia so you'll have to excuse me maj :P

[dachinesedude]

the only greek resturant i ate at was minoas greek taverna on kingsway, that place considered good? i liked it

[TOS'd]

^ not very good.

[Meowjin]

i actually heard they got good roast lamb. I have put some serious thought into opening a restaraunt... the sad part is people in this city dont have good taste in food so they would still line up to stephos for 12 pounds of rice over some real greek food that costs more.

[RFlush]

Why is this thread talking about greek food? Or is it because greek food is just as bad as hot pot?

[Culverin]

i actually heard they got good roast lamb. I have put some serious thought into opening a restaraunt... the sad part is people in this city dont have good taste in food so they would still line up to stephos for 12 pounds of rice over some real greek food that costs more.

OMG.
That looks effin delicious!

I apologize on behalf of the idiots without taste, there are tons of those. I've have stepho's wasn't impressed.

The best roast lamb I have had was at Sympatico in kits. Any other suggestions?



As for hot pot, I'm chinese and cheap. My friends are too.
The best place we have found for hot pot meat is actually a korean meat shop.
Han Kook Meats
Han Kook Meat (http://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=Han+Kook+Meat,+Vancouver,+British+Columbia ,+Canada&hl=en&cid=14284309296668807287)

It's on Kingsway near Boundary. Cheap and good quality. This has been our go-to place for hot pot for years.

And yes, they have lamb :D

[chun]

except i live in richmond for 13 years and i've been eating at asian resteraunts everyday for the past 3 years.

Seriously hotpot blows. And I've had good hot pot in asia (vietnamese fish style)

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[StylinRed]

i actually heard they got good roast lamb. I have put some serious thought into opening a restaraunt... the sad part is people in this city dont have good taste in food so they would still line up to stephos for 12 pounds of rice over some real greek food that costs more.


buddys family had a couple greek restaurants in the past; from their experience i'd say dont do it :P

they ended up making a pizza joint and "greeked" the pizzas up, charged a premium but, ended up being pretty successful with it paid off their debts collected an adequate amount sold the place and are now retiring in greece

friend is still stuck being a cook at someone elses restaurant in greece though and is stressed the hell out since he's got a kid now and there is no economy over there

[Culverin]

I would never open a restaurant for money, not in a city like Vancouver.
There isn't enough of a collective appreciation for taste in this city, at least not with a decent ratio compared to the number of restaurants here.

The only reason I would serve food here is either for my own amusement or as a retirement job only to kill time and only aim to break even.


If I was rolling in the money, I would like to open a place here to show people how things ought to be done. Ethical bar, kick ass food at a decent price, wide selection of liquor. Hoping I win the lottery one day and can show Vancouver what we are missing.

[Meowjin]

i honestly wanted to hosted an RS greek food night, but I don't really have a home. lol.

And pretty much what styling red said.

Some family friends of mine own Niagra Falls in ladner and if you guys in richmond odnt mind going through the tunnel it actually has some pretty go faux greek food. Apparently the pizza is open.

Whenever I eat at greek resteraunts I only eat calamari anyways... no pilafi, and only greek salad.

Once you have calamari the grilled way with a little bit of olive oil lemon and oregeno...
way tooo good.

Yeah I'm usually pretty critical about food and stuff but thats cause a few of us on revscene actually only care about eatting good food. Best feeling in the world. I make a habit of it of always eatting at a new place every week. Also when I eat in richmond I order in Canto.

[7seven]

I have to say I agree with Majin, I'm chinese (all be it very white washed) and I hate hotpot and find it horrid. Different folks, different strokes.

[InvisibleSoul]

Ditto to the above... hot pot is definitely one of my bottom choices when going out to eat.

[GG]

from hot pot to greek food


interesting