[Shead]

Hey guys, to keep the story really short, my neighbour is rebuilding their house, and everyday between 11am-3pm when no one is home the builders are plugging their power tools in our outdoor electricity plugs. Now this has been going for at least a month now, I've informed the builders a few times that we do not want them coming to our property and using our electricity, i've even left a note on the plug that reads "do not use electricity", my dad even went to the trouble of shutting off the outlets at the back. they've even gone to the back of our house and turned on the outlets. Now my parents do not want to involve the police blah blah blah... Now im just wondering what are my rights here and if theres anything i can do to stop these assholes from what they are doing.

thx

[Mr.HappySilp]

Take pictures and send to police next time they come to your house. Invasion of private.

Or you could get a really big and mean dog and when they come spare them with those BBQ sauce for meant and watch the dog chase them out.

[Greenstoner]

talk to city hall

[LP700-4]

Talk to your neighbour (Owner of house) and tell them to tell the builders to use the other house next to them's electricity. :troll:

[seakrait]

it's theft and it's costing your parents money. police/bc hydro should be informed. if they're doing this at your house, they've done this at all the other houses they've built before.

[MindBomber]

More than likely there's no power source at the house currently and that's why they're plugging into yours, if that's the case, good luck stopping them. The trades need power to work, if the builder isn't providing it onsite through a temporary panel for whatever reason, they need to find it somewhere or go home for the day. I don't want to come across as an ass hole tradesmen, stealing your power and pissing in the bushes, but when builders cheap out we need to improvize. I've had to do this many times, and it's always on the same companies job sites.

You need to speak with the builder, not the site boss, the person who your neighbours are actually giving their checks too. Tell him it's not acceptable and will no longer be tolerated, if it continues you'll be contacting your neighbours, his clients, directly.

Having the police involved at this point would be foolish, because I doubt it's not one person or one company plugging in. The police aren't going to track down ten different people each for stealing $4 worth of electricity.

[Shead]

it's theft and it's costing your parents money. police/bc hydro should be informed. if they're doing this at your house, they've done this at all the other houses they've built before.

i've thought about contacting the city and the police. parents are considering talking to the head contractor and the home owner. are they not supposed to have their own power source when they put up new homes?

Ps: theyve already ruined our fence to their side when they were bulldozing the house down.these guys are extremely unprofessional.

[Shead]

More than likely there's no power source at the house currently and that's why they're plugging into yours, if that's the case, good luck stopping them. The trades need power to work, if the builder isn't providing it onsite through a temporary panel for whatever reason, they need to find it somewhere or go home for the day. I don't want to come across as an ass hole tradesmen, stealing your power and pissing in the bushes, but when builders cheap out we need to improvize. I've had to do this many times, and it's always on the same companies job sites.

You need to speak with the builder, not the site boss, the person who your neighbours are actually giving their checks too. Tell him it's not acceptable and will no longer be tolerated, if it continues you'll be contacting your neighbours, his clients, directly.

Having the police involved at this point would be foolish, because I doubt it's not one person or one company plugging in. The police aren't going to track down ten different people each for stealing $4 worth of electricity.
thank you for the insight. i was actually hoping someone in the trade would give me some info here. so glad someone RS is in this trade. will contact the home owner/project leader asap

[LP700-4]

Usually these contractors have multiple gas generators making their own power.

We've experienced this whole thing too. They knocked down 2 sections of the fence, they fix those two sections and repaint if necessary.

[ruthless]

Can't you trip the breaker from the panel? Therefore cutting off the electricity to the outlets, I understand that it may cut off the electricity to a certain part of the house, but if you do it enough times the contractors will have to move on...

Also I know when building a house you can apply to get a temporary hydro meter installed so the contractors can use their equipment, this is at the expense of the homeowner...maybe the homeowners too cheap :troll:

[Shead]

Usually these contractors have multiple gas generators making their own power.

We've experienced this whole thing too. They knocked down 2 sections of the fence, they fix those two sections and repaint if necessary.

thats what i assumed but according to mindbomber they company cheaped out

[Renthal]

Get some of those deer sprinklers that blast in the direction of movement…:smug:
or just talk to the foreman and the home owners

[wstce92]

Absolutely despicable. I haven't had my blood boil from reading something in a while.
If you don't want to involve the police or anything like that, I'd just go through the trouble of finding a way to lock the main panel so they can't turn the power back on.
IMO, anyone who would do this without asking, and then keep doing upon being told not to, won't change their ways even if you talk to the head contractor. These type of inconsiderate assholes can only be taught through punishment. Because I'm a vindictive asshole, if I were in your position, I'd fix the outlets so they shock who ever plugs something in.

[MindBomber]

Usually these contractors have multiple gas generators making their own power.

We've experienced this whole thing too. They knocked down 2 sections of the fence, they fix those two sections and repaint if necessary.

No, that's no true. A generator would only be used if absolutely necessary; on a remote job site where hydro has yet to hook the power up to yet, for example. Imagine the annual cost of fuel and maintenance running generators all day, everyday on multiple job sites, it's totally impractical.

The builder should have a temp panel with outlets and a meter hook up to the grid, that's standard practice industry practice.

These type of inconsiderate assholes can only be taught through punishment. Because I'm a vindictive asshole, if I were in your position, I'd fix the outlets so they shock who ever plugs something in.

You should read my post, maybe it will make your blood boil even more, I've done it countless times. Want to shock me bro, since I'm an asshole?

Many trades work on a site for only a few days, they don't own generators, and if they walk off the job since there's no power they won't be given any more work. It's the builders responsibility to provide power, we just do what's necessary in an uncomfortable situation.


Easy solution, unplug there cord and cut it into pieces. Cords aren't cheap, cut a couple cords they'll get the message.

I'd make a trip home from work during the day just to do this.

If you really want to stop them, shut off the power, remove the outlet, turn it back on.

BYO... electrical outlet :troll:

[quasi]

Easy solution, unplug there cord and cut it into pieces. Cords aren't cheap, cut a couple cords they'll get the message.

I'd make a trip home from work during the day just to do this.

[Graeme S]

Hmm... sounds familiar. You live on Capitol Hill?

[seakrait]

More than likely there's no power source at the house currently and that's why they're plugging into yours, if that's the case, good luck stopping them. The trades need power to work, if the builder isn't providing it onsite through a temporary panel for whatever reason, they need to find it somewhere or go home for the day. I don't want to come across as an ass hole tradesmen, stealing your power and pissing in the bushes, but when builders cheap out we need to improvize. I've had to do this many times, and it's always on the same companies job sites.

the ends do not justify the means. just because it's only $4 of electricity doesn't make it right. just because it's right there and the trades need it to do their job doesn't make it right. it's the OP's parents' property and the trades are trespassing and stealing electricity.

[Manic!]

Why not just talk to the owner of the house and ask for some money to cover your hydro costs. That would be the smart and reasonable thing to do.

Also I have never seen a builder use a gas generator when building a house. Not only would the fuel costs be high the noise would piss off the neighbors.

[quasi]

Many trades work on a site for only a few days, they don't own generators, and if they walk off the job since there's no power they won't be given any more work. It's the builders responsibility to provide power, we just do what's necessary in an uncomfortable situation.

Residential must be different, I've never worked for someone who didn't provide power. I'd be pissed if I sent my guys to a job site and there was no power, I'd tell them to pack up and go home and the general not to call me back until it's there.

[MindBomber]

Residential must be different, I've never worked for someone who didn't provide power. I'd be pissed if I sent my guys to a job site and there was no power, I'd tell them to pack up and go home and the general not to call me back until it's there.

If I had the choice, I would strictly do commercial work.

There's so many sketchy builders out to make a quick buck in residential who cheap out on everything, and they still get big contracts because usually home owners never realize what's going on

the ends do not justify the means. just because it's only $4 of electricity doesn't make it right. just because it's right there and the trades need it to do their job doesn't make it right. it's the OP's parents' property and the trades are trespassing and stealing electricity.

I didn't say it was right, I said there's no choice, most people simply can't afford to lose the work.

I usually knock on the neighbours door and ask permission, I really do not like doing it.

[StylinRed]

shoot them and say you thought it was a burglar trying to break in


:)

[nsmb]

there gonna need power tomorrow at 7am so get on it, turn off the breaker(s) to the outside outlets

[Energy]

I know it might be frustrating to the tradespeople but you don't owe them electricity and they have no right to just take it unless you give permission. See if you can reason with them. If not then feel free to... get creative.

[JF.]

if they take something of yours, take something from them.

[mickz]

Cut the shit out of their extension cord. There will be no way that they can patch it up.

We threatened to do that when my asshole neighbors decided to re-build next door.

[BrRsn]

Usually home builders have some sort of understanding with the neighbour they're going to borrow power from. Either you reimburse them, work out some sort of barter trade (i.e. new shared fence for free if you let us use power), or a lot of homebuilders actually have generators. I'm assuming the person you're dealing with isn't a real contractor and is just finding random tradespeople, hence the unprofessionalism.

My dad's been building houses for awhile, we don't do many projects a year, but we still keep a few generators handy. It's the builders responsibility to provide power/generator with gas to the tradesmen.


In the meantime, just flip the breaker for all the exterior outlets. And start being a bitch about bylaws, we've had asshole neighbours call the cops because we went on a site on a sunday. We were levelling the sides of the house with shovels and wheelbarrows, at 11am, and we got a noise complain and had to leave :fulloffuck:

[Chicken Balls]

Easy solution, unplug there cord and cut it into pieces. Cords aren't cheap, cut a couple cords they'll get the message.

I'd make a trip home from work during the day just to do this.

I'd do this also.

[niu99]

points for racism! :thumbs:

[BrRsn]

points for racism! :thumbs:

As much as I wanna fail you, that's the first thing I thought reading this thread :facepalm:

[tool001]

rig outlets to send a surge, :fuckyea:

[nsmb]

steal the TP outta the porta potty

[dangonay]

Fuck those pieces of shit. Not asking for permission in the first place = assholes. Doing it repeatedly when asked not to = assholes. Actually going back to your house (and trespassing) to turn something on to restore power = serious assholes.

As people have said, spend some time to find out which breakers inside your house feed the exterior outlets, and turn them off when you leave the house in the morning. I'd also put up a camera to record while you're away "just in case". Some pissed off worker who thinks he's entitled to your power might not like that, so best to protect yourself.

[Anjew]

get evidence... video tape it... then send a copy to olsen on your side CTV British Columbia | On Your Side - Breaking News, BC News, Vancouver, B.C., Sports, Entertainment, Traffic, Weather, Contests (http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/olsen/)

turn off the breakers after they connect their equipment then video tape them coming back to check the outlets..... easy evidence.

the reason i suggest Olsen is because chances are those assholes do it to other families.

or talk to city hall.

a friends neighbors repaired cars all day at home in his garage and it was annoying as hell to hear his tools.... city hall took care of it.

[BMW M5]

District Building Inspectors (http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/LICANDINSP/inspections/building/dbi.htm)

Look at the map and see who is the building inspector in your area. Call him or her up and tell them your situation. If you want to potentially shutting them down and having them get fined. Use the link below.

Licences & Inspections, Building Inspections, How to File a Building Complaint (http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/LICANDINSP/inspections/building/complaint/index.htm)

[Euro7r]

Ask them to pay for the electricity if they are gonna use it. Otherwise, as T.I says "You can do whatever you like" :fuckyea:

[quasi]

District Building Inspectors (http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/LICANDINSP/inspections/building/dbi.htm)

Look at the map and see who is the building inspector in your area. Call him or her up and tell them your situation. If you want to potentially shutting them down and having them get fined. Use the link below.

Licences & Inspections, Building Inspections, How to File a Building Complaint (http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/LICANDINSP/inspections/building/complaint/index.htm)

That actually is a really good solution.

[vafanculo]

Put up a sign saying you sell Premium Electricity.
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[Shead]

Best idea by BMW M5. Will give them a week, if they continue i will contact my district inspector. thx you everyone!

[subordinate]

Best idea by BMW M5. Will give them a week, if they continue i will contact my district inspector. thx you everyone!

:seriously:


Act now. They've ignored you in the past. Why delay it?

[DsZ24]

steal the TP outta the porta potty

If they're too cheap to hook up temp power on the site they're probably too cheap to rent a porta potty.

[StylinRed]

give them a week? wtf.... call the inspector tomorrow

[Matlock]

Cut their cords.
Get a valve stem remover and take out all the valve stems out of their service trucks.
Push over their outhouse when the site supervisor goes inside.

[taylor192]

More than likely there's no power source at the house currently and that's why they're plugging into yours, if that's the case, good luck stopping them. The trades need power to work, if the builder isn't providing it onsite through a temporary panel for whatever reason, they need to find it somewhere or go home for the day. I don't want to come across as an ass hole tradesmen, stealing your power and pissing in the bushes, but when builders cheap out we need to improvize. I've had to do this many times, and it's always on the same companies job sites.

You need to speak with the builder, not the site boss, the person who your neighbours are actually giving their checks too. Tell him it's not acceptable and will no longer be tolerated, if it continues you'll be contacting your neighbours, his clients, directly.

Having the police involved at this point would be foolish, because I doubt it's not one person or one company plugging in. The police aren't going to track down ten different people each for stealing $4 worth of electricity.
Thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread.

The problem isn't the $4 of electricity, its the NIMBYism. Living next to a construction zone is not fun, so people look for anything to fight back over.

I used to work when I was a teenager outside installing those big ugly satellite dishes in backyards. I would plug in wherever was most convenient, regardless if it was a neighbours plug. Its only pennies of electricity, and does no physical harm to the property. I never once had a neighbour complain, or heard a complaint via my employer - I guess people were just nicer then.

OP, just talk to your new neighbours. I'm sure they are more than willing to compensate you $4 for the electricity - yet I'm sure that's not the real issue and this is just more NIMBY crap.

[dangonay]

give them a week? wtf.... call the inspector tomorrow
Exactly. You're being too lenient. You already said it's been going on a month and you've already talked to them. No more "three strikes" BS, call first thing in the morning.

One day soon they're going to get their own power panel hooked up and then what are you going to complain about?

[MindBomber]

If they're too cheap to hook up temp power on the site they're probably too cheap to rent a porta potty.

Pretty much guaranteed.

The same builders who don't have power, are the ones who don't have porta potties. Working all day on a site with no porta potty..

If I were hiring a builder, some of the first questions I would ask would be do they have porta potties on site and do they have a bin or trailer on site for garbage or do they just let a giant pile form creating an eye sore for the neighbourhood for months.

:pokerface:

[Avery]

Coming from an electrician id just cut off the end of their cord , its fairly inexpensive to replace but really inconvenient for them but way she goes...

[dangonay]

Thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread.

The problem isn't the $4 of electricity, its the NIMBYism. Living next to a construction zone is not fun, so people look for anything to fight back over.

I used to work when I was a teenager outside installing those big ugly satellite dishes in backyards. I would plug in wherever was most convenient, regardless if it was a neighbours plug. Its only pennies of electricity, and does no physical harm to the property. I never once had a neighbour complain, or heard a complaint via my employer - I guess people were just nicer then.

OP, just talk to your new neighbours. I'm sure they are more than willing to compensate you $4 for the electricity - yet I'm sure that's not the real issue and this is just more NIMBY crap.
Cut the fucking bullshit. This has nothing to do with nimbyism. This has to do with inconsiderate pricks entering someone's private property without asking, and even having the balls to mess around with your gear. And worse yet, continuing to do so after being told not to.

The OP never mentioned anything about them leaving piles of garbage around, making noise all night long or other behaviors - he's pissed at them coming onto his property, and rightfully so.

Our family built numerous houses over the years. We always asked neighbors if we could use power before ours was hooked up (or even run a hose from their house to ours to supply us with water when doing work). They always said yes. I wonder what they would have thought if we marched on over and borrowed things without asking first? It's so easy to ask - only a serious prick wouldn't have the courtesy to do so.

[fliptuner]

Easy solution, unplug there cord and cut it into pieces. Cords aren't cheap, cut a couple cords they'll get the message.

This was my first thought too. Actually, just cut the cord that's on your property.

BMW M5's suggestion is probably best though.

I work both on residential and commercial sites, running equipment. It would be like me running out of fuel and stealing fuel from the next yard to run my excavator. Yes it's my boss' fault for not providing me with adequate fuel but at the end of the day, it's up to me to decide to steal it or not. What if I need a shovel, rake, water? Should I just go into the neighbor's tool shed or garage and take them?

[MindBomber]

Thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread.

The problem isn't the $4 of electricity, its the NIMBYism. Living next to a construction zone is not fun, so people look for anything to fight back over.

I used to work when I was a teenager outside installing those big ugly satellite dishes in backyards. I would plug in wherever was most convenient, regardless if it was a neighbours plug. Its only pennies of electricity, and does no physical harm to the property. I never once had a neighbour complain, or heard a complaint via my employer - I guess people were just nicer then.

OP, just talk to your new neighbours. I'm sure they are more than willing to compensate you $4 for the electricity - yet I'm sure that's not the real issue and this is just more NIMBY crap.

I don't want my post to come across wrong.

What's going on is not okay and Shead is well within his rights to be upset, I would not be as patient in the identical situation. If I tell a person to stop, they better stop.

What I'm saying and what most of the people in this thread do not understand is that going after the trades people won't solve anything, they work on the site for a few days and are gone. Most of them are probably being told by the site boss to plug into Shead's house. When there's no power on site, I ask the site boss/call the builder, if they tell me go to the neighbours, I knock on the door and ask permission.

It's the builder and the home owners, the people with the power to get a meter installed, that Shead needs to be discussing the issue with. I guarantee, the home owners do not know what's going on, the builder is just trying to save himself a few bucks by not getting a temp meter installed.

[taylor192]

Cut the fucking bullshit. This has nothing to do with nimbyism. This has to do with inconsiderate pricks entering someone's private property without asking, and even having the balls to mess around with your gear. And worse yet, continuing to do so after being told not to.
I will, when you do.

This is the same attitude that eventually leads to an old man shooting kids that happen to chase balls onto their manicured lawns.

Mindbomber already explained that contractors come and go, so those you warn one day might not be the same plugging in the next day. Even if the general contractor were to inform every crew coming on site, these are guys paid to get in/out fast and to the next job site, they are just going to ignore what was said and use the closest outlet - yet you'd know this cause you've dealt with trades people over the years, right? :smug:

Our family built numerous houses over the years. We always asked neighbors if we could use power before ours was hooked up (or even run a hose from their house to ours to supply us with water when doing work). They always said yes.

Short of monitoring them or turning off the plug, how would you suggest handling this with multiple different crews working on a project over time?

[Great68]

If I were the OP,

If they approached and asked for permission I'd probably let them use my power for free.

If they didn't ask I'd be unhappy and attempt to work out some reasonable compensation, but I'd still end up letting them use my power because:

A) Listening to generators running all day fucking SUCKS.
B) I wouldn't want to give them a reason to further mess with my house or property.
C) It keeps good relations with my neighbor, the person who is ultimately paying these people to be there. Would you want to be the reason his house isn't getting built on schedule (I guess this depends how much you like your neighbor)

Suggesting vindictive things like pulling valve stems, cutting cords or rigging the outlet to shock the person IS FUCKING RETARDED. Come on it's a few bucks of electricity, give your heads a shake people. If you do something like that you're really asking for those contractors to fuck with your shit.

[taylor192]

What I'm saying and what most of the people in this thread do not understand is that going after the trades people won't solve anything, they work on the site for a few days and are gone.
Absolutely, even someone who claims to have built several houses doesn't understand that.

[Soundy]

I dunno if anyone else has thought of this... minimal cost of electricity aside,

Hey guys, to keep the story really short, my neighbour is rebuilding their house, and everyday between 11am-3pm when no one is home the builders are plugging their power tools in our outdoor electricity plugs. Now this has been going for at least a month now, I've informed the builders a few times that we do not want them coming to our property and using our electricity, i've even left a note on the plug that reads "do not use electricity", my dad even went to the trouble of shutting off the outlets at the back. they've even gone to the back of our house and turned on the outlets. Now my parents do not want to involve the police blah blah blah... Now im just wondering what are my rights here and if theres anything i can do to stop these assholes from what they are doing.

thx

Unless your breaker panel is actually on the outside of the house, that means they have to be entering the house to re-enable the power. That's trespassing at best... break-and-enter at worst. Either is enough to have someone arrested.

Turn the power off, rig a camera to watch the panel, and when you have video of an unauthorized person ENTERING YOUR HOUSE, take the video to the cops.

Seeing one of their crew being taken in handcuffs and stuffed in the back of a cop car should put an end to it all pretty quickly.

[mickz]

Last summer my neighbors tore down their house and they had a wasp nest on the property. They ended up setting up camp in my attic.

I approached them the next day and told them the situation. I had asked them to pay for an exterminator to come in. They told me "I don't control the animals" and told me to fuck off.

The next day they came to my house and asked to borrow water and electricity... obviously I said no but I did everything I could to delay their construction. I'd call WorkSafeBC and report on every infraction I could such as wearing runners and china men straw hats instead of CSA steel shoes and hard hats. They'd also be bitches and work outside of construction hours, especially Sundays.

[TRDood]

It's not the $4 of electricity. What if they mess up your lawn or fence or electricity outlets in the process?

It's like someone taking your car for a spin without your permission but gas only cost $4. Is that okay? Do your job right or don't do it at all.
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[Great68]

It's not the $4 of electricity. What if they mess up your lawn or fence or electricity outlets in the process?



Then you can sue them for damages.


It's like someone taking your car for a spin without your permission but gas only cost $4.


Not really like that at all. Break and enter (what they'd have to do to get in your car) is a much higher degree offence than trespassing. Theft of an automobile is also a higher degree offence than theft of a small amount of electricity.

[MindBomber]

It's not the $4 of electricity. What if they mess up your lawn or fence or electricity outlets in the process?

It's like someone taking your car for a spin without your permission but gas only cost $4. Is that okay? Do your job right or don't do it at all.
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Another thing I should clarify from my earlier post, since I'm afraid it made me come across as unprofessional now, which is anything but the truth. If I did, someone let me know so I can edit it accordingly.

When I referred to it being $4 of electricity, I meant that specifically in regards to bringing the police into the situation at the current escalation, because I don't see the police investigating and charging a trades person who plugged into a power outlet for his one day on site. The actual theft is absolutely not okay.

[subordinate]

Last summer my neighbors tore down their house and they had a wasp nest on the property. They ended up setting up camp in my attic.

I approached them the next day and told them the situation. I had asked them to pay for an exterminator to come in. They told me "I don't control the animals" and told me to fuck off.

The next day they came to my house and asked to borrow water and electricity... obviously I said no but I did everything I could to delay their construction. I'd call WorkSafeBC and report on every infraction I could such as wearing runners and china men straw hats instead of CSA steel shoes and hard hats. They'd also be bitches and work outside of construction hours, especially Sundays.

No offense, but that's kind of petty.

You really can't blame your Neighbour about the wasp situation.

[6insomnia9]

They need power to go on RS , sorry op.

I would do the same.

[JD¹³]

Cut the fucking bullshit.
That would require taylor192 to remove his tongue/fingers.

[46_valentinor]

Last summer my neighbors tore down their house and they had a wasp nest on the property. They ended up setting up camp in my attic.

I approached them the next day and told them the situation. I had asked them to pay for an exterminator to come in. They told me "I don't control the animals" and told me to fuck off.

The next day they came to my house and asked to borrow water and electricity... obviously I said no but I did everything I could to delay their construction. I'd call WorkSafeBC and report on every infraction I could such as wearing runners and china men straw hats instead of CSA steel shoes and hard hats. They'd also be bitches and work outside of construction hours, especially Sundays.
...im sorry but that is such an asshole move on your part. no one has control over mother nature, for all you know there could have been a nest on your property without you even knowing. it seems like you just took the opportunity to blame your neighbors for something they have no control over. hell if i torn down my property and the next day my neighbor comes running to me saying there is an increased amount of ants and that i should call somebody, i would definitely tell them to screw off.
rejecting their usage of your water and electricity is totally up to you and completely understandable, but screwing with the entire work crew there is just completely unacceptable.

[fliptuner]

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gran3.jpg

[rriggi]

Somehow wire the exterior outlet to the same line for the oven and washing machines. Make popcorn, and sit at the window and watch what happens next to the tools...:fullofwin:

[xilley]

cut their cords, since its own your property
or might as well pull on w.e. the cord is connected and fuck them over :troll:

[ChaKo]

And start being a bitch about bylaws, we've had asshole neighbours call the cops because we went on a site on a sunday. We were levelling the sides of the house with shovels and wheelbarrows, at 11am, and we got a noise complain and had to leave :fulloffuck:

I did everything I could to delay their construction. I'd call WorkSafeBC and report on every infraction I could such as wearing runners and china men straw hats instead of CSA steel shoes and hard hats. They'd also be bitches and work outside of construction hours, especially Sundays.

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[PornMaster]

Last summer my neighbors tore down their house and they had a wasp nest on the property. They ended up setting up camp in my attic.

I approached them the next day and told them the situation. I had asked them to pay for an exterminator to come in. They told me "I don't control the animals" and told me to fuck off.

The next day they came to my house and asked to borrow water and electricity... obviously I said no but I did everything I could to delay their construction. I'd call WorkSafeBC and report on every infraction I could such as wearing runners and china men straw hats instead of CSA steel shoes and hard hats. They'd also be bitches and work outside of construction hours, especially Sundays.

Wow you sounds like an old chinese douchebag.
You know calling in worksafebc will not delay the construction right?
The workers just get a fat fine from the infraction.

[underscore]

Make the phone calls NOW, and if nothing gets done start cutting their cords at the property line, or unplug them and give them a yank and see what goes flying.

Suggesting vindictive things like pulling valve stems, cutting cords or rigging the outlet to shock the person IS FUCKING RETARDED. Come on it's a few bucks of electricity, give your heads a shake people. If you do something like that you're really asking for those contractors to fuck with your shit.

Then you can sue them for damages.

So why can't you sue them for damages if they mess with your house for cutting them off?

[dangonay]

Absolutely, even someone who claims to have built several houses doesn't understand that.
You're an idiot, as usually proven in most threads you participate in.

The trades show up, plug in and there's no power. They'll be on the phone right away to whoever's in charge to get things sorted.

It's not the OP's responsibility to fix things or make calls to get things sorted out.

[Gridlock]

A lot of pettiness up here in this thread. Guaranteed, if you guys were actually standing in the yard, with a cord going over the fence, I don't think you'd have the balls to cut it.

Calling WCB? The building inspector? These guys are trying to do their job, just the same as you do.

Go and talk to the GC. You know what he's going to do? Reach in his wallet, and pull out a nice pretty $50 for you, and tell you to come back when you are ready for more.

Is this really what its like to have neighbors around here? We're ready to pull the shotgun over $5 of power?

Fuck me! What happens if I dare ask you for a boost when my battery is dead, take my first born?

Talk and communicate! It's not that hard.

"Hi, your subs are helping themselves to my power. It sucks. No one asked."

"Oh dude! I'm sorry, we have about 5 subs on sight right now, and it gets a little nuts. What can I do to make that right for you?"

"You can taste the curb man. I'm gonna American History X your face!-and I took the liberty of calling the city, and WCB-two fuck you in the ass branches of government. Cause that's how I roll."

[taylor192]

You're an idiot, as usually proven in most threads you participate in.
I noticed you didn't respond to what Mindbomber and I both pointed out, trades people are going to plug in where most conveinent - yet you having built several houses failed to see that.

The trades show up, plug in and there's no power. They'll be on the phone right away to whoever's in charge to get things sorted.
Finally, a reasonable answer - except the OP has already mentioned he's done this and the trades people found a way to turn it back on - so welcome to this thread.

Any better answers?

Edit: Keeping it clean.

[taylor192]

Is this really what its like to have neighbors around here? We're ready to pull the shotgun over $5 of power?
Sadly, yes.

That's why I called out what it really is, NIMBYism, and you can see the pettiness increased as people realized they've been rightfully called out and are trying in vain to come up with any viable excuse.

For once we're completely on the same page. :thumbsup:

[taylor192]

Make the phone calls NOW, and if nothing gets done start cutting their cords at the property line, or unplug them and give them a yank and see what goes flying.
Perhaps you missed where the OP said this happens between 11-3 when no-one is home. How would you like to stop it if no-one is around?

So why can't you sue them for damages if they mess with your house for cutting them off?
You absolutely can, yet this is obviously from someone who's never been to court to sue for damages. It ain't as easy or cheap as you think.

[Gridlock]

Screw going American history x on his ass, now we want to go straight up american and just sue.

Awesome. Let's import that little bit of american wisdom and get court happy. Once again, fuck me...people are petty.

If I was a judge, my first question would be, "did you talk to the guys?"

"No"

"Then no justice for you."

[Graeme S]

No arguing in this thread. I don't care who starts it and I will give out massive points and bands if I have to. we're all supposed to be grownups here, right?
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[melloman]

He has talked to them, yet Shead if you haven't talked to the GC, then track him down. Don't wait because that's just stupid. If I were you and the GC said he doesn't care then call an inspector ASAP. Stuff like this "happens everyday," but surely doesn't mean you have to just put up with it.

[bengy]

Haven't read the whole thread, but you could try to turn off those outlets at the electrical panel?

[AzNightmare]

Haven't read the whole thread, but you could try to turn off those outlets at the electrical panel?

Nevermind reading the whole thread... Didn't he already say he did that in his very first post??

[Glove]

could you possible come home from work during those hours? for a day or 2?

I wouldv stood there and gave them a warning first, "if you plug into my house, I will cut your cords, what is on my property I will do with as I please"

THEN, if they actually did plug in, I wouldv absolutely cut their cords, they have the balls to think your bluffing? prove them wrong.

Then if they bang on your door asking you wtf did you do, call the police on them for tresspassing, dont take any bullshit from anyone man,

but warn them first,

if your cutting cords and theyre still fixing and plugging in,

lol well shit the copper you cut off will more than pay for the electricity

[Great68]

Haven't read the whole thread, but you could try to turn off those outlets at the electrical panel?

I'm confused at the whole "They went to the back and turned the power back on" thing.

It's not typical for house breaker panels to be mounted outside, and I really can't imagine that these contractors would break into his house to turn the circuit back on.

So all I can guess is that this outlet is remotely switched from a switch on the outside of the house?

So just turn the breaker off at the panel!

Maybe the OP can clarify?

[taylor192]

could you possible come home from work during those hours? for a day or 2?
Is a few dollars of electricity worth missing work for a few hours? I would hope not.

[Selanne_200]

What I don't get from the post is, if they don't have their own power, and steal your power from 11-3, what are they going to do later on when they have to frame? Only run their compressor during those time? Eventually they're going to need their own power for the entire work day so maybe this is just a temporary thing? Do you see a power mast anywhere on their yard waiting for BC hydro to come and connect? They really aren't going themselves a favor by not getting power on their own, the cost of running a gas compressor or the potential delay of not being able to use their tools outside of those 4 hours out weighs whatever they save right now?

Do you know the neighbour? As suggested, I think the best way is to track down the owner and have them talk to the GC themselves since they're the ones paying the GC and maybe the GC will actually listen. GC ain't gonna listen to you when you're not the one who's putting food on his table

[AzNightmare]

Fuck me! What happens if I dare ask you for a boost when my battery is dead, take my first born?

I'll be kinda annoyed if you did that without asking (ignoring the fact that you would need me to get access into my car first).


"Oh dude! I'm sorry, we have about 5 subs on sight right now, and it gets a little nuts. What can I do to make that right for you?"


They could ask first.


How about everyone just start siphoning people's gas in a parking lot.
Just $5 worth. Don't bother trying to contact me, cause I'm just here for a few minutes doing my job.
I'll be at some other parking lot the next day. It's just convenience. Don't be mad, bro. :rolleyes:

[Glove]

Is a few dollars of electricity worth missing work for a few hours? I would hope not.

well I mean if your boss will let you, and still get paid, or on your lunch break or something, or call in sick or what not.

if he doesnt step up they will keep doing it, because they know they can get away with it

[taylor192]

well I mean if your boss will let you, and still get paid, or on your lunch break or something, or call in sick or what not.

if he doesnt step up they will keep doing it, because they know they can get away with it
Fair enough, yet as Mindbomber has pointed out, trades people come and go. Unless you want this to become a daily ritual, its time to workout a different solution.

There's a good point above - where do they plug in before 11 and after 3? If there's power on site, I bet its only a few people using his outlets cause they are more convenient at the time. It would be nice if the OP could confirm this.

[wstce92]

Calling WCB? The building inspector? These guys are trying to do their job, just the same as you do.
When did doing your job include doing whatever the fuck you want.

Is this really what its like to have neighbors around here? We're ready to pull the shotgun over $5 of power?
It's not the $5, it's the fucking courtesy of asking first. At the end of the day, it's my property, my power. It could cost less than a penny, if I don't want you on my property for even a second, then you shouldn't be on my property period.
If this was me, and contractors asked me to come on my property and plug into my outlets, then I would let them. But to not ask? At least leave a note on my door if I'm not home. Is that what our culture has come to? Fucking doing whatever we want cause it's just "$5 of power". Why don't you walk into a store and take $5 of whatever goods you like. We're all neighbours in life.

Fuck me! What happens if I dare ask you for a boost when my battery is dead, take my first born?
I've fucking repaired doors and windows, temp. fixes for pipes, and countless other small home repairs for my neighbours for free. As well as lend tools, hell I've given my neighbours an old set of winter tires I wasn't using. The point is you fucking ask. And if they say no, then that's a NO.

The amount of people here with the self-entitled asshole qualities of the contractors is staggering.
Just because it's convenient, doesn't give you the right to fucking go on someone's property and use their shit. I don't have a car, and yours is always parked right outside my house, and it's more convenient for me to drive then it is to walk all the way to the bus stop and take the bus. Does that mean I can fucking take it for the day without asking as long as I top you back up with gas? Your backyard garden is more convenient for me to go to vs the grocery store. Can I go and just take your veggies as I wish? I'll only take like $5 worth.

Fucking ridiculous.

[taylor192]

At the end of the day, it's my property, my power. It could cost less than a penny, if I don't want you on my property for even a second, then you shouldn't be on my property period.

Fucking ridiculous.
At the end of the day attitudes like this are only a few steps away from doing something as ridiculous as this:

University Park man slain after dog marks lawn - Chicago Breaking News (http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/man-69-charged-south-suburban-fatal-shooting.html)

Google "lawn + shootings" and you'll find too many stories of people who feel its within their right to shoot people for just stepping on their manicured lawn. Over reacting over a few pennies of electricity is not far off.

[Glove]

^ dont step on the guys lawn then, pretty straight forward,

and its not "our culture"

its "their culture"

you know who im talking about

[R&R]

A lot of pettiness up here in this thread. Guaranteed, if you guys were actually standing in the yard, with a cord going over the fence, I don't think you'd have the balls to cut it.

Calling WCB? The building inspector? These guys are trying to do their job, just the same as you do.

Go and talk to the GC. You know what he's going to do? Reach in his wallet, and pull out a nice pretty $50 for you, and tell you to come back when you are ready for more.

Is this really what its like to have neighbors around here? We're ready to pull the shotgun over $5 of power?

Fuck me! What happens if I dare ask you for a boost when my battery is dead, take my first born?

Talk and communicate! It's not that hard.

"Hi, your subs are helping themselves to my power. It sucks. No one asked."

"Oh dude! I'm sorry, we have about 5 subs on sight right now, and it gets a little nuts. What can I do to make that right for you?"

"You can taste the curb man. I'm gonna American History X your face!-and I took the liberty of calling the city, and WCB-two fuck you in the ass branches of government. Cause that's how I roll."

You just made my day after reading this LOL
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[JF.]

Op should just knock that guy out if they aren't resonable lol
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[heleu]

...you realize that you guys are talking probably about $1 worth of electricity a day?

Even if they are running 1500W tools all day, power is only 8 cents a kW-hr.

[6insomnia9]

OP, Y U NO CUT POWER CORD YET?

[Jsunu]

...you realize that you guys are talking probably about $1 worth of electricity a day?

Even if they are running 1500W tools all day, power is only 8 cents a kW-hr.

It is not about the money. It is just the common curtiosy to even just ask if they can use the outlet even when explicity stating he does not want them to do so. It is within his right since it is his property and the contractor/builder being incovienced does not give them the right to continue to use his power even if it is just pennies a day.

[melloman]

At the end of the day attitudes like this are only a few steps away from doing something as ridiculous as this:

University Park man slain after dog marks lawn - Chicago Breaking News (http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/man-69-charged-south-suburban-fatal-shooting.html)

Google "lawn + shootings" and you'll find too many stories of people who feel its within their right to shoot people for just stepping on their manicured lawn. Over reacting over a few pennies of electricity is not far off.

And it's people like you, with your "attitude" that deserve to get shot when you don't follow what someone said about THEIR property.

/end.

[subordinate]

And it's people like you, with your "attitude" that deserve to get shot when you don't follow what someone said about THEIR property.

/end.

No need to get shot to death over a dog peeing on your lawn.

The old guy should have followed the owner and defecated on his lawn for retribution.

[Graeme S]

60 points and a ban, people. Just bans from here on out.

[Nlkko]

I mean if you feel that you need to go as far as cutting their cords, calling the police, etc. to be satisfied then go to town. I just dont think it worths the trouble. Cutting their cords just gonna piss them off and what stop them from extracting revenge when nobody's home. Now you got property damages you gotta pay for with most likely no witnesses to go to court.

They're in the wrong thats for sure, should have asked first but you shouldnt skip work or lose sleep over a few bucks. Contact the owners or whoever have the authorities as suggested and forget about it is the best way.

Not gonna lie, sometimes I feel like doing terrible things to terrible people but I never do it because it never worths it. Do a costs/benefits analysis :D

[MindBomber]

Please guys, remember it may be the first day a trade is working on the site, and they're being told by the site boss it's okay to plug into Shead's house. If that's the case they won't know it's not okay until their $120 electrical cord gets cut, how would they..

The mature way to handle things is to go to the owners, they'll make the cheap cunt builder set up a meter or compensate Shead for the electrical cost.

[bengy]

Nevermind reading the whole thread... Didn't he already say he did that in his very first post??

No, he said his dad shut the outlets off, probably via a switch on the wall.

[gars]

Please guys, remember it may be the first day a trade is working on the site, and they're being told by the site boss it's okay to plug into Shead's house. If that's the case they won't know it's not okay until their $120 electrical cord gets cut, how would they..

You would think that leaving a note saying "Do Not Use Electricity" on the plug - would mean you shouldn't use it. Unless the site boss told him to ignore the note, in which case I'd be even more annoyed.

[MindBomber]

You would think that leaving a note saying "Do Not Use Electricity" on the plug - would mean you shouldn't use it. Unless the site boss told him to ignore the note, in which case I'd be even more annoyed.

I thought it was mentioned earlier in the thread that the note had been taken down by someone (I'm assuming site boss), maybe I'm wrong, this thread has become a bit childish and cluttered very quickly.

In my post I was assuming the trades people plugging in are completely unaware that Shead doesn't want them using power. Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[dangonay]

Maybe someone in the trades related to construction/plumbing/electrical can tell me something.

As a mechanic one thing you never do is go into another mechanic's toolbox to borrow a tool, even something as simple as a screwdriver for two minutes. You'll get an earful if you do. Then again, if you ask first you can borrow tools no problem.

I have a feeling all tradespeople are the same in this regard.

So if a tradesperson understands not to borrow a tool without asking, then how come these assholes can't understand they should maybe ask first before going into someone else's yard?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Maybe someone in the trades related to construction/plumbing/electrical can tell me something.

As a mechanic one thing you never do is go into another mechanic's toolbox to borrow a tool, even something as simple as a screwdriver for two minutes. You'll get an earful if you do. Then again, if you ask first you can borrow tools no problem.

I have a feeling all tradespeople are the same in this regard.

So if a tradesperson understands not to borrow a tool without asking, then how come these assholes can't understand they should maybe ask first before going into someone else's yard?

mAYBE THEY AREN'T TRANDEMAN. Maybe they are just the avg joe who gets hire to do a shaddy job........

[gars]

I thought it was mentioned earlier in the thread that the note had been taken down by someone (I'm assuming site boss), maybe I'm wrong, this thread has become a bit childish and cluttered very quickly.

In my post I was assuming the trades people plugging in are completely unaware that Shead doesn't want them using power. Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I agree with the childish comments. At first, when I first read this thread - my instant reaction is with the rest of the mob - "wtf, you can't steal my internet. I know it's $5, but it's the principle!!". But stepping back and being realistic, it really isn't necessary.

I'd definitely talk to the builder first. If he's a jerk, then sure, go ahead and start cutting wires and calling Worksafe BC.

[taylor192]

So if a tradesperson understands not to borrow a tool without asking, then how come these assholes can't understand they should maybe ask first before going into someone else's yard?

Cause its not the same. I completely understand asking to borrow tools cause I've had plenty of tools either not returned, returned dirty, or put back in the wrong place. The same criteria doesn't apply well to this situation.

I was rereading the OP's posts, and maybe the answer is to get the fence repaired. He notes they knocked it down when bull dozing (usually expected when knocking down a house, and the builder agrees to rebuild the fence as it was) perhaps its time the OP demands the fence be put back now rather than later.

[BMW M5]

Maybe someone in the trades related to construction/plumbing/electrical can tell me something.

As a mechanic one thing you never do is go into another mechanic's toolbox to borrow a tool, even something as simple as a screwdriver for two minutes. You'll get an earful if you do. Then again, if you ask first you can borrow tools no problem.

I have a feeling all tradespeople are the same in this regard.

So if a tradesperson understands not to borrow a tool without asking, then how come these assholes can't understand they should maybe ask first before going into someone else's yard?


I have noticed that the older generation of workers on the jobsite have way more respect for other people or their tools way more than the younger guys.

I started a new job on the west end and while we are waiting for hydro to come hook up my temp power. I went over next door and asked nicely to borrow their power and offered them a little cash for their trouble. They were nice and didnt mind letting me using their power for a week or so. But I also did make sure to not walk into their yards with dirty boots and to sweep up the dirt on their walkway from time to time.

In this situation, I think the builder is just unprofessional and could of asked.

[Prolowtone]

This thread is full useless bs.

OP have you talked to the GC about this? He might have tried to contact you (He could have left a note at least) but you might have been at work. The GC could have a few projects to take care of so he cant stay on one site all day waiting for you to come home... Just a thought. If you know the owner of the property maybe you should have a talk with them to.

It is wrong to turn on the power and plug in without your permission.. but as posted, Someone could be saying it is fine to plug into your outlets. Dont just start cutting lines until you have tried to work things out

[dangonay]

Cause its not the same. I completely understand asking to borrow tools cause I've had plenty of tools either not returned, returned dirty, or put back in the wrong place. The same criteria doesn't apply well to this.
It's exactly the same. It's not about borrowing something physical, something cheap or something pricey. It's about having the common courtesy to ask beforehand.
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[quasi]

He said he left a note asking them to not plug into his power and they did it anyway. If someone asked me to use my power I wouldn't have a problem with it. If they used it without asking I'd be pissed. If they used it without asking and after I left a note telling them not to use it I'd cut there cord. The burden of securing the power is the GC's it's not the next door neighbours burden to work something out after they just helped themselves to his service.

I've worked in or around the trades for 20 years and I currently run crews for a large contractor so I totally get where the tradesmen is coming from. However them plugging into his power without asking and especially after he left a note asking them not to is asinine. He has no responsibility to work it out, he left a note and them continuing to use his power is basically a big, "Go fuck yourself" from them. At this point if I was in his shoes even if they came to my door and asked nice offering money to use the power I'd tell them to pound sand.

[Raid3n]

i worked for a roofing company, and we always had at least 1 if not 2 gas generators with us for our heat guns.. it's not that hard to bring one to a job site, especially when you don't need to haul it up ontop of a roof...

[underscore]

Fuck me! What happens if I dare ask you for a boost when my battery is dead, take my first born?

Ah, now see there's the difference. If you ask for the jump, then there's no problem. If you just pop my hood and hook up to my battery, we have a problem. Likewise if these guys just asked to use the power (or at the very very least, used it day 1 and left a note explaining this and requesting use for the next day with a phone number to call) it's no big deal.

Talk and communicate! It's not that hard.

Exactly! So why won't these workers/contractors do that?

[MindBomber]

I have noticed that the older generation of workers on the jobsite have way more respect for other people or their tools way more than the younger guys.

I started a new job on the west end and while we are waiting for hydro to come hook up my temp power. I went over next door and asked nicely to borrow their power and offered them a little cash for their trouble. They were nice and didnt mind letting me using their power for a week or so. But I also did make sure to not walk into their yards with dirty boots and to sweep up the dirt on their walkway from time to time.

In this situation, I think the builder is just unprofessional and could of asked.

Totally agree, the younger generation just doesn't seem to conduct themselves with the same standards as older craftsmen in our industry. I'm twenty three, and I've been running crews of up to 7-8 workers for three years already. I worked my way up fast and leap frogged a ton of guys, partly because I'm very good at what I do, partly because I interact with clients better than anyone else working for the company.

The kids we hire as labourers now, I tell them they can't smoke on the property of a client with a finished home or to take it outside on a home just past framing and half of them ignore you and let themselves be fired for it. It should be common sense, but even when you tell them, they don't care.

It's sad to see our industry, which is filled with honourable people, being cheapened by people like the builder Shead needs to deal with.

[underscore]

^ well hey, a study of students revealed that 58% would turn down a job if they were told they couldn't check social media at work. I can only imagine smokers (or worse, smokers who love social media, they'd never get anything done!)

[LuHua]

Just wondering, all you guys who're turning down the generator idea; what's so bad about it? If they're plugging into the wall outlet they're only pulling up to 2400 watts TOPS, likely far below that else the breaker'd trip. That's being generous with the breaker rating too. The generators I've been checking out run for over half a day on a gallon of gas, and are a hell of a lot quieter than the tools it'd be powering! Anything else that could be said has been said, honestly it's just an issue with communication and courtesy.

[Gridlock]

Ah, now see there's the difference. If you ask for the jump, then there's no problem. If you just pop my hood and hook up to my battery, we have a problem. Likewise if these guys just asked to use the power (or at the very very least, used it day 1 and left a note explaining this and requesting use for the next day with a phone number to call) it's no big deal.



Exactly! So why won't these workers/contractors do that?

I totally get that these guys aren't innocent in all this. I was directing my part at the guys that are screaming for murder, rape, slight pillaging and cutting the cords.

People can assume something is a little bad, but not know it really "grinds your gears" until you say something. So all the RS Beat down crew can talk about cutting cables and phoning the police/city all they want, but until you have stepped away from the computer, and talk to the person that has so wronged you-its a moot issue.

And that's why I said...talking and communication. I agree that helping yourself to someones power just because its available isn't cool, but these guys may not make it out to be as bad as the OP seems to perceive it as.

I'm gonna call it.

/End of Thread ;)

[UnName]

Stay home one day and get a bunch of friends over and have them bring bats and sit int the yard and watch them

But srs just stay home one day and confront them if that doesnt work put up no trespassing signs and call police if u can catch one of them on camera
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[BMW M5]

Totally agree, the younger generation just doesn't seem to conduct themselves with the same standards as older craftsmen in our industry. I'm twenty three, and I've been running crews of up to 7-8 workers for three years already. I worked my way up fast and leap frogged a ton of guys, partly because I'm very good at what I do, partly because I interact with clients better than anyone else working for the company.

The kids we hire as labourers now, I tell them they can't smoke on the property of a client with a finished home or to take it outside on a home just past framing and half of them ignore you and let themselves be fired for it. It should be common sense, but even when you tell them, they don't care.

It's sad to see our industry, which is filled with honourable people, being cheapened by people like the builder Shead needs to deal with.

yeah, just today the rebar guys didnt show up to finish their job and the framers ran out of work by coffee time. I called him and his bullshit excuse was that the truck broke down which is full of it. Seriously, if you have problem showing up just be upfront about it and not waste everyones time and money.

10 years back, trades ppl care about workmanship and the job, they would stay late to get the job done and what not. Now a days, these dumb asses would show up at 730 and be gone by 330. Wont even stay 30mins longer if its something important. So hard to hire honest ppl that wont cut corners now a days.

[Shead]

ok here's an update.
spoke to the home owner, and the head contractor. these ppl actually registered the power to the house next door, but i guess the ass hole was too dumb to remember to tell his workers(plus they probably dont read english) so far they've stopped using our electricity, and i do see that they are plugging the power to the other neighbour's hydro meter now, i just hope it stays this way. i would really hate to have to take further actions and ruin the relationship with our neighbours. on the same day also spoke to the owner regarding the busted fence, and he spoke to the contractor demanded that he rebuild/repair the fence upon completing his job.

thanks for everyone's help and love all the options i was offered even though some may be too cruel lol

[iEatClams]

yeah, just today the rebar guys didnt show up to finish their job and the framers ran out of work by coffee time. I called him and his bullshit excuse was that the truck broke down which is full of it. Seriously, if you have problem showing up just be upfront about it and not waste everyones time and money.

10 years back, trades ppl care about workmanship and the job, they would stay late to get the job done and what not. Now a days, these dumb asses would show up at 730 and be gone by 330. Wont even stay 30mins longer if its something important. So hard to hire honest ppl that wont cut corners now a days.

One of the contributors to this is that the the real estate market is hot right now and builders are just putting things up AS FAST AS THEY CAN while trying to keep costs low. They try to cut corners cause they know they can get away with it, it's easy to find another gig out there.

There's a shortage of good builders in BC. when permits slow down and the real estate market cools and less projects are available these shoddy contractors will be greatly reduced.

[seakrait]

ok here's an update.
...so far they've stopped using our electricity, and i do see that they are plugging the power to the other neighbour's hydro meter now, i just hope it stays this way.
Wait, what? So as long as they're not stealing from you, eh? You think the other neighbour knows that the workers are doing that?

[Shead]

Wait, what? So as long as they're not stealing from you, eh? You think the other neighbour knows that the workers are doing that?

im no electrician here but im pretty sure the other neighbour knows since they're always home, and the wire was plugged into their hydro meter this time.

[jjl]

Same crap here recently. Used water source, left the hose all dirty with cement encrusted on the tip. Left dirty foot markings from path to hose. Took off the backyard hose and did not even bother putting it back on the holder. They even had the nerve to chill out under our balcony to dodge the rain, and left some of their lunch leftover junk. Honestly felt like just going straight to city hall or police but I think I'll try talking to whoever looks in charge first. If it looks like "they don't give a shit" attitude, then I'll just make a complaint to the city.

[CRS]

Same crap here recently. Used water source, left the hose all dirty with cement encrusted on the tip. Left dirty foot markings from path to hose. Took off the backyard hose and did not even bother putting it back on the holder. They even had the nerve to chill out under our balcony to dodge the rain, and left some of their lunch leftover junk. Honestly felt like just going straight to city hall or police but I think I'll try talking to whoever looks in charge first. If it looks like "they don't give a shit" attitude, then I'll just make a complaint to the city.

Seriously?

[Death2Theft]

I had a bad experience with a builder doing an 8 storey building using our water, they asked if they could do so first. Stupidly I allowed them to do so since they said they would foot the bill at the end of the job. There was some cost over run so by the time the job was done.... gave them the bill and they said no way we used this much we arn't paying!
So lesson learnt.

[GodZilla]

1. Talk to the owner/builder of the property and tell them your issue and to stop using your power and coming on your property.
2. After the talk one day stay home between 11-3pm and film/ take pictures of them on your property after you made it clear they were not welcome.
3. Lock your breaker box so they cant get in.
4. take your proof to the city or police to have this resolved.

I understand the frustration but if you damage they stuff you can only imagine what they could do to your house while you are not home.

If I am not mistaken cant they build a post and attach a meter to it to run power for there site? Iv seen that before I think they just want to mooch until someone says stop.

If you give them an inch they will take a mile from you and be using anything and everything from your property.

[Raid3n]

^you must have skipped the last page, lol.

[Matlock]

If you also wanted to fuck them up you could open your plugs and change the ground to also be hot. Their metal tools would shock them and they would have no clue what's going on.

[seakrait]

im no electrician here but im pretty sure the other neighbour knows since they're always home, and the wire was plugged into their hydro meter this time.

I'm no electrician either. Can someone explain to me the significance of the workers plugging the extension cord into the hydro meter? Am I to assume that there's a separate counter to measure how much electricity is being used by that one plug?

If so, and if your neighbour is aware, then it looks like they've learned from their mistakes for now.

[Shead]

I'm no electrician either. Can someone explain to me the significance of the workers plugging the extension cord into the hydro meter? Am I to assume that there's a separate counter to measure how much electricity is being used by that one plug?

If so, and if your neighbour is aware, then it looks like they've learned from their mistakes for now.

from what some ppl have posted, they must have finally registered for temporary hydro thats why you would plug the wire to their meter.

[jackal]

i didn't bother reading past the first page since there are so many fail posts but that's what the damn breaker panel is for. just shut off the power to your outside outlets... it's a 30sec job that solves the problem

[Soundy]

Wow, what an idiot. Did you even read the OP?

Hey guys, to keep the story really short, my neighbour is rebuilding their house, and everyday between 11am-3pm when no one is home the builders are plugging their power tools in our outdoor electricity plugs. Now this has been going for at least a month now, I've informed the builders a few times that we do not want them coming to our property and using our electricity, i've even left a note on the plug that reads "do not use electricity", my dad even went to the trouble of shutting off the outlets at the back. they've even gone to the back of our house and turned on the outlets. Now my parents do not want to involve the police blah blah blah... Now im just wondering what are my rights here and if theres anything i can do to stop these assholes from what they are doing.

[Selanne_200]

What I also don't get is, breaker panels are usually located inside the house, no? If his dad turned it off, it would mean they would have to break into his house in order to turn it back on? And it would be stupid for the panel to be anywhere outside

[bengy]

Wow, what an idiot. Did you even read the OP?

You're the idiot kid. Breaker panels are not outside, at the back of the house. Maybe at a house built by you?

[YouMirin]

i didn't bother reading past the first page since there are so many fail posts but that's what the damn breaker panel is for. just shut off the power to your outside outlets... it's a 30sec job that solves the problem

You only had to read half of the OP's post.

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[jackal]

so your telling me this guy lives in the first house ever to have a breaker panel on the outside of his house? thats not even to code. the op's dad is doing something wrong...

[Soundy]

What I also don't get is, breaker panels are usually located inside the house, no? If his dad turned it off, it would mean they would have to break into his house in order to turn it back on?
I already pointed that out back on page 3: "Unless your breaker panel is actually on the outside of the house, that means they have to be entering the house to re-enable the power. That's trespassing at best... break-and-enter at worst. Either is enough to have someone arrested."

You're the idiot kid. Breaker panels are not outside, at the back of the house. Maybe at a house built by you?
"Kid", hahahaha. This is what happens when you DON'T EVEN BOTHER READING THE FIRST POST, let alone the thread.

so your telling me this guy lives in the first house ever to have a breaker panel on the outside of his house? thats not even to code. the op's dad is doing something wrong...
Nobody's telling you that; you're inferring that based on your decision not to read the thread.

[GLOW]

so many comments/insults without even properly reading/understanding the thread lol

:seriously:

[Teh Doucher]

so many comments/insults without even properly reading/understanding the thread lol

:seriously:

welcome to the internet.

[Great68]

What I also don't get is, breaker panels are usually located inside the house, no? If his dad turned it off, it would mean they would have to break into his house in order to turn it back on? And it would be stupid for the panel to be anywhere outside

I think his dad was doing it wrong.

[Matlock]

I think his dad was doing it wrong.

Maybe his dad just pressed the test button right on the GFCI receptacle (plug) thinking that would stop them. :mamoru:

[Great68]

Maybe his dad just pressed the test button right on the GFCI receptacle (plug) thinking that would stop them. :mamoru:

Reasonable assumption, that actually makes sense. Definitely makes more sense than them breaking into his house to turn the breaker back on...

[Death2Theft]

Says the guy supporting nuclear power.
Wow, what an idiot. Did you even read the OP?

[Selanne_200]

I think his dad was doing it wrong.

For sure he's doing something wrong. If op made no mention of someone breaking INTO his house, and they were able to "turn it back on", then he probably didn't trip the breaker but rather just hit the test button as the receptacle as someone suggested above