[MR_BIGGS]

Do Vancouver Men Suck? | Vancouver Magazine (http://www.vanmag.com/News_and_Features/Do_Vancouver_Men_Suck?page=0%2C3)

Excerpt:

Natalie, Elise, and Tracey are drinking pinot grigio in the Commune Café at Nelson and Seymour. Tracey, who's in marketing, wears an electric-blue dress and flicks her bright blond hair over her shoulder. Elise, a tall brunette with a ready laugh who does business development for a firm downtown, is in a classic navy sheath. Natalie is home for a visit from grad school in Ontario; she's a curvy blond in a flowered dress. (All names are pseudonyms.) In their mid 20s and friends since they went to high school in North Van, they're attractive, smartly put together, and fit. They hike the Chief, do the Grouse Grind, ski, bike the seawall, and kayak. This evening, they're participating in another favourite local pastime—dissing Vancouver men.

Together they sketch a composite picture of a passive guy with no plan, uninterested and uninteresting. The males they remember from high school typically still live at home, without much motivation to date, much less to rise in the world. Even those who've left their parents' house, they complain, are laid-back to a fault, too lazy or inept to make small talk in a bar, ask a woman out, make reservations, or dress appropriately. Natalie sums it up: "Guys have lost the idea of what girls want on a date."

Tracey is tired of spending the evening in a chic Whistler bar with guys dressed "for video games in the basement: baseball caps and baggy T-shirts." Natalie adds, "They dress down, so they act down." And what used to be called common courtesy now looks freakishly uncommon. Recently, when a man went to help Tracey with her suitcase, it was so unusual that she thought at first he was stealing it. She says she gets on the bus in six-inch heels, laden with packages, and no man offers her his seat. Elise claims hardly any man her age has ever held a door for her. "Chivalry died years ago," Tracey says, "and it's buried six feet under."

Let's stop right there. Before we continue, two important grains of salt have to be added to this unappetizing stodge. First, it is a truth universally acknowledged that a single woman, whether she lives in Paris, Hong Kong, or San Francisco, is convinced that the single men in her town are uniquely deficient in the qualities she seeks in a mate. It's highly likely that as the Vancouver women are lamenting the sorry state of the local males, their Finnish counterparts are doing the same thing with equal energy over breakfast in a Helsinki café.

Second, single people in 2011, particularly millennials, are caught in a difficult moment that's not limited to Vancouver. The titles of recent books and articles say it all: Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men Into Boys, by Kay Hymowitz; Men to Boys: The Making of Modern Immaturity, by Gary Cross; "The End of Men," by Hanna Rosin in the Atlantic. Simply put, the post-industrial economy, which rewards higher education, communication skills, and the ability to sit down and concentrate, favours women. They now outperform men in post-secondary education (for every two BAs earned by men, three are earned by women), representation in middle management, and, increasingly, income. Faced with society's declining interest in physical strength, stamina, and whatever else they might bring to the table, young men are retreating into what Hymowitz calls "pre-adulthood."



Thoughts?

[ecchiecchi]

They're more than welcome to become lesbians and go fuck themselves. =D

I love how the article is so one-sided and feminist driven it's disgusting.

[trip]

what the article doesnt say is how they all want men who drive a benz and shower them with LV purses

and or they were powered by mom/dad or a rich bf at the time and thats how they can afford to have all those things and not fucking work while they go to school

and 90% being cliquey stuck up bitches


:)

[Gridlock]

Thoughts?

Fuck'em.

If they are successful, hot and well dressed and no man has snatched them up(pun intended) then something is wrong with them.

They are probably the types that expect a man to kiss their feet for the chance to be in their presence. I dated one once and she was like an ice pick to my genitals. Had to ___ and chuck a few(see ladies, I can be classy) to get back on top.

How many times do guys on this forum talk about that lululemon looking bitch in Vancouver that is completely unapproachable and is a glorified tire biter? These are those women.

[butter_sashimi]

This is like an episode from Sex and the City
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[ecchiecchi]

This is like an episode from Sex and the City
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And we all know how hideous those Sex and the City women are...

[spyker]

Three bitches from North Van can't find a good man? These stuck up cunts need to lower the "mightier than thow " attitude,then maybe,just maybe guys will want something to do with them.

Alot of the women in Vancouver need to realize,alot of the guys here are just sick of their shit and they are not afraid to show it.

[butter_sashimi]

^ Charlotte wasnt that bad looking.
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[StylinRed]

Sounds like a bunch of stuck up a) gold digging bitches b) ugly cunts who cant get a man

[spyker]

This article is so one sided towards the females,I would like to read a article about "Do Vancouver women suck".

[BrRsn]

Thought this was going to be an article on cunningulus and the statistics on men performing it. Guess not. Oh well, my interest piqued for a little while at least, or until I realized this was an article written by a bunch of whiney women. Bitch about equality then bitch about the death of chivalry .. if I offered to carry another man's suitcase he'd smack me down ... I have on occasion helped an older gentlemen out with some heavy boxes, but that's different. If you're able bodied you don't deserve any special treatment.

[7seven]

If these females are out at a bar and not getting approached, I seriously question their attractiveness and/or attitude. I'm out and about downtown Vancouver at lounges/bars/clubs quite often and from experience and what I see, we men are always approaching and hitting on females. This article should've included pictures of the females complaining, that would've shead more light on the situation, right now it just comes across as a bunch of ugly bitches complaining.

One point I will agree with them on though, most guys in Vancouver can't seem to dress properly, it might be my taste, but Air Jordans/Sneakers/Skater Shoes and a ball cap is not good fashion sense for a night out, I see this way too often. It makes you look like a 10 year old kid and a slob.

[Phil@rise]

I open the door pull out the chairs be polite and assertive, act a man and act chivalrous, in exchange I expect a woman to act like a woman. Say thankyou when I do so or at least smile. In the sack I treat her as a woman gentle when needed rough when wanted she gets off first often more then once. As such I expect a damn blowjob now and then. I dress the part when we go out nice for a nice place and casual for a not so nice place and she had do the same without bein told dress frumpy and lackluster and I'll treat you that way.
I do the blue chore she does the pink chores. Equality isn't in the chores you do or the role you play its how you do them. She dont want to mow the lawn I dont want to do dishes.

[ToneCapone]

half and half, a few good points but mostly BS expectations. I don't think these women have a very good temperament. - And I think this article is designed to troll our emotions.

Regardless... I've come to the conclusion that just like the joke,
women are like parking spots.... all the good ones are taken and the rest are handicapped.

[JD¹³]

I moved to Vancouver a year and a half ago and have not met a single girl that was worth seeing more than two or three times. The sense of entitlement and completely unrealistic standards that women have here is staggering. The biggest thing that shocks me about the ego's they carry around is that most of them have nothing more to offer than their looks. I've been out with some beautiful women who had absolutely NOTHING to talk about. They're manicured from head to toe but can't hold a conversation about anything outside pop culture, work, or their ex-boyfriends. That or they're focusing on what men are wearing instead of things that actually matter in a real relationship. To me these women have zero intrinsic value and I don't care if they're a Playmate of the Year.

It's no surprise men don't bother to put in effort anymore, why should they? If they're content dressing casually and not interested in small talk at the bar, that's the woman's loss. Maybe THEY should step up to the plate and put in some effort instead of relying on men to do all the work. Chivalry isn't dead either women just don't appreciate it, to them it's a bare minimum. I'm the guy that holds doors for them, helps them into my truck cause it's tall, and gives them my jacket when it's cold. I rarely ever get a thank you.

In summary, the author of this article and the women featured in it can go fuck themselves.

[Gridlock]

Ahh Sex and the City...where 3 slutty women hang out with their mom.

[NLY]

whole article :fulloffuck:

This evening, they're participating in another favourite local pastime—dissing Vancouver men.

sounds like a group of bitter hags.

our solution?

http://i.imgur.com/Yli1S.jpg

[hypediss]

http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net/entries/icons/original/000/006/108/somehwat-mad-completely-mad-u-mad-madad1.jpg


well... they can go FUCK THEMSELVES then

[taylor192]

This stood out:
She says she gets on the bus in six-inch heels, laden with packages

I wouldn't ask her out, let alone give up my seat on the bus to her. If she can afford the heels and packages, she can call a cab.

[taylor192]

Women wanted to be treated and paid equally, then complain when they are.

I'd love to ask them when was the last time they asked out a nice guy and paid for the first date.

Feminism killed chivalry, yet that doesn't mean it killed common courtesy. I still hold doors open for anyone, yet if you're in 6 inch heels carrying a ton of packages and don't say "thank you" you better hope the door doesn't hit you.

[melloman]

Agree with everything that is said so far about the feminism of this article.

Yet I do agree with the ending of 7even's post. Boys/Guys/Men whatever you'd like to call the young adult men are dressing down. If I'm going out to dinner to a nice restaurant it's; clean jeans, polo/dress shirt, dress shoes.. at the bar I do the same. Even though I'm with my gf or friends it's the way I dress myself, instead of sneakers and an ed-hardy t-shirt.. :troll:

[smoothie.]

rage mode so hard.

[Tapioca]

I snickered while reading this article in the bathroom stall this morning. The opener about "dissing Vancouver men" was hillarious and so was when the article brought up that fraud Ronald Lee.

I spend a lot of my time downtown and I don't know where these women meet their men. Most guys who live and work here are well-dressed, fit, and put together. Speaking for myself, I am usually one of the best-dressed guys at the bar (I always wear well-cut blazers after all) and if that's what women want, well I barely get a glance. Women in this city bitch and complain about men-children in this city, yet when a clearly put-together, articulate guy is next to them in the flesh, they stare at their phones and don't even give as much as a brief glance or flash of their pearly whites.
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[hk20000]

that's the same as the News special in Hong Kong a while back about how Hongirls and Honguys expect completely different things from one another and the marriage rate is way low.... or something along those lines.

I just made 2 words up didn't I?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Unless I am going to some place that requires me to dress nice I always go out casual..... why dress up when there is no need? I am there to have fun with friends not to meet anyone so why should I care how I really dress?

Here in van most women expect too much, have too high expecations but have little to nothing to offer. That's why guys don't care anymore..........

[Gh0stRider]

probably unattractive and belong on Virgin Diaries : Videos : TLC (http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/virgin-diaries/)

[Tapioca]

^ Call me old-fashioned, but IMHO, when a man leaves the house, he should dress like someone of his stature.

Unless I'm making a late-night grocery run or hitting the yoga studio, I am usually dressed well. No that doesn't mean suits, but clothing that fits. You never see me wear a baseball cap despite my male-pattern baldness.
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[toyobaru]

this article smells like bullshit to me.

For one Vancouver in itself is a shit hole where all the nice looking ladies are all looking to score big. When a guy acts courteous and nice and tries to spend time to listen to her he gets friendzoned because hes a really nice guy. Lets put it this way dating isnt what it used to be years ago. You gotta admit dating is pretty retarded where both the male AND female play this hard to get game. what happened to being straight up.

Edit:

Also forgot to add I dont think its all the guys fault as well for not being in for the occasion. How about the days when you take a woman out and she constantly is on her phone texting?

[melloman]

I snickered while reading this article in the bathroom stall this morning. The opener about "dissing Vancouver men" was hillarious and so was when the article brought up that fraud Ronald Lee.

I spend a lot of my time downtown and I don't know where these women meet their men. Most guys who live and work here are well-dressed, fit, and put together. Speaking for myself, I am usually one of the best-dressed guys at the bar (I always wear well-cut blazers after all) and if that's what women want, well I barely get a glance. Women in this city bitch and complain about men-children in this city, yet when a clearly put-together, articulate guy is next to them in the flesh, they stare at their phones and don't even give as much as a brief glance or flash of their pearly whites.
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Phones.. rule the girls world. You get a BIG thanks from me.. I'd thank you more then once if I could.

[StylinRed]

this article smells like bullshit to me.

For one Vancouver in itself is a shit hole where all the nice looking ladies are all looking to score big. When a guy acts courteous and nice and tries to spend time to listen to her he gets friendzoned because hes a really nice guy. Lets put it this way dating isnt what it used to be years ago. You gotta admit dating is pretty retarded where both the male AND female play this hard to get game. what happened to being straight up.

Edit:

Also forgot to add I dont think its all the guys fault as well for not being in for the occasion. How about the days when you take a woman out and she constantly is on her phone texting?


^^ ouch sounds like you've had more than your fair share of bad dates :lol

[taylor192]

^ Call me old-fashioned, but IMHO, when a man leaves the house, he should dress like someone of his stature.

Unless I'm making a late-night grocery run or hitting the yoga studio, I am usually dressed well. No that doesn't mean suits, but clothing that fits. You never see me wear a baseball cap despite my male-pattern baldness.
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I think its just the west coast style.

I was used to Ottawa/Toronto where downtown is dominated by financial or government jobs requiring buttoned shirt and pants, no tees and jeans. My first impression of Vancouver was everyone dressed down, I rarely saw anyone dressed up minus the women shopping on Robson. Most women wore lululemon pants (not that I'm complaining! check the Yoga pants thread in the NWS forum!) and men mostly wore jeans and tees.

Seattle and most of California seems the same dressed down lifestyle, in contract to the formal NY, Chicago, Washington style.

[Liquid_o2]

Yup Toronto is a lot more dressy. I'm going out tonight for some casual beers at a pub downtown and I would look completely out of place if I showed up in jeans, a hoody and a baseball hat. Have to wear a nice pair of jeans or some slacks, a sweater or button up, nice jacket... etc.

When I go back to Vancouver I can wear whatever I want though and just blend in. I saw soooo many guys wearing sweatpants during Christmas it was ridiculous.

But women have way too high expectations for what they bring to the table as other posters have already said. Maybe they are accomplished and make lots of money but most are looking for tall/dark/handsome or Prince Charming to come sweep them off their feet.

[bloodmack]

This article is so one sided towards the females,I would like to read a article about "Do Vancouver women suck".

yes :troll:

[!e.lo_]

Dave Chappelle - Chivalry Is Dead - YouTube

[van_city23]

this article is so stupid. From what I see, they sound like stuck up bitches and like someone mentioned before, they can go fuk themselves. The "guys" from their highschool don't generalize to all of Vancouver. Someone should tell these snobby bitches that not everyone dresses up just to please them, we got our own lives with things happening that are much more important than trying to impress you.

About how some people dress, its up to them on how they dress. I dress according to how I feel. If i feel good, i dress in what makes me feel good and hit the club. If i don't feel good, i don't go to the club, nice and simple. Those girls are definitely gold diggers, what kind of girl picks a man based on how he dresses on a particular night... what ever happened to personaliity?

[Bonka]

Are these women even looking in the right places? Granted, Vancouver is no NY, HK, etc, etc and in fact, quite poseur-ish but to say that this issue is one sided is asinine. Not being able to find the right guy? Even more asinine.

Their standards are either too high for the pool of available men, they're playing hard to get, they have some intrinsic attitude flaw which men see..or they're ugly.

Also, I find that these type of women (liberated, feminist, what have you) wanting chivalry to be highly contradictory.

[Excelsis]

and this is why i'm :alone:

[trancehead]

JOURNALISM AT ITS FINEST

[Gridlock]

JOURNALISM AT ITS FINEST

What? You didn't find an article that spoke to one guy, in the business of helping dopey men to get laid to be fair and balanced?

I wanted to add, and its been a few years since I've been single, but after my genitalia incising experience with that girl, who complained about everything I did, I really examined my game.

No word of a lie, she used to bitch about the fact that I didn't open car and other doors, treat her like a princess and, in her quote, "put me on a pedestal. Like I'm here - and you are like,











- here." She actually drew that out for me with her hands.

So after I got out of that mess, as I said, I really examined my game. I started opening car doors. You know what you are opening gentlemen? Legs. Open the car door, and you open her mind to opening way more for you.

Rush out and grab the door for the restaurant, and you are rushing out and grabbing poon. Just that easy.

PLUS, and this is fucking brilliant...women slam your doors! Take that away from them. Do you know how many people have slammed my door into the sidewalk? No more baby. Sit yo ass there, because obviously you can't handle the responsibility.

[hypediss]

it reminded me of this

Snuff Box - Boyfriend Scenes - YouTube

[freakshow]

Semi unrelated, but the videos reminded me of this..

Ah, L'Amour by Don Hertzfeldt - YouTube

[Ronin]

This article just tells me these chicks think they're somehow owed something by men. The sense of entitlement is strong in these ones.

And yeah, feminism killed chivalry. Men got tired of hearing "I'm a woman and I can do that too!" and just stopped doing all the nice things women originally wanted us to do. Basically... "Oh yeah, we'll show us what you can do then."

Personally I still hold doors and I'd probably offer the woman carrying a lot of stuff my seat but if we're truly equal, how many women would offer me their seat if I was carrying a lot of shit?

In conclusion, women will ALWAYS complain no matter what we do.

[Gridlock]

I would also like to point out the user name of the original poster.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

oh man i have so much to say about this shit but we're all men here, we know what's going on.

i'll wait for the first woman to complain and unleash my load on her.

YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO MY JOB, AND YOU WANT ME TO HOLD THE DOOR OPEN FOR YOU?

AND you still want your right to be priority on the life boat?

lol that's all i need to say.

[Sid Vicious]

the truth of the matter is

no matter how fat, unattractive, loud, annoying, boring and stupid a woman is there's always a chump who will white knight that shit and probably fuck her. look at snooki

men don't get the same breaks

[DanHibiki]

i give up my seat to the elderly, the handicapped, the injured. why the hell would a girl in 6 inch heels be entitled to the same sort of treatment?

[Aetios]

It intrigues me at how many times i've seen, heard and encountered unattractive (physical or personality, or both) women talk like they are god's gift to men. I always wonder where these delusions of grandeur come from. Was it because they were raised where their parents constantly praised them on how wonderful and attractive they are, or is it because they are surrounded by fake friends who constantly spout fake compliments to each other, actually believing the bullshit that comes out of their whoremongering mouths. Who knows.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

at first i was like, what's this retarded bitch gotta say.

Feminism and the Disposable Male - YouTube

then i listened, and she actually makes sense.

women forget feminism has two sides. equal opportunity, but it also is about killing chivalry and all those things men are supposed to "do" for women. im not making this up. most women just blatantly choose to ignore that side of the argument, when in fact that is one of the core topics and issues of feminists.

and of course, that will never happen. because we are unequal physically, psychologically, and it's ingrained in our brains through evolution.

the day we're equal, is the day there are no genders. that's probably a few thousand years off. if not more.

[rsx]

There are so many red flags with these cunts that I wish good luck to any fool that ends up with them.

[NLY]

For every hot girl in the world, there's a guy out there who's tired of banging her.

[maxxxboost]

My thoughts are it doesn't bother me one bit because i will never have to deal with these ladies.
People who complain go no where! Obviously these chicks are doing something wrong. Sure they can complain about the guys, but what makes them so special? These Cu*ts need to get off their high-horse and needs a co*k slap back to reality.

[CorneringArtist]

Women Be Shoppin! - YouTube

Honestly, these bitches want to have their cake and eat it too. Some women want to take everything with no compromise, yet still complain for more once they get it.

My take: Some women :fuckthatshit:

[Tapioca]

Read this - an epic comment made on the Vancouver Magazine website.



I'm at a loss as to where I should begin with this, but I'll try a bit of an intro first. I'm a mid-late-twenties guy, great job, sense of humour, polite, athletic, the usual mix of typically Canadian values. Ambitious, fun-loving, and oh yes, absolutely fed up with Vancouver women. I think going through this article chronologically might be easiest, because there's so much that's so blatantly wrong and it does an excellent job of illustrating the problems men face in dealing with Vancouver women, though largely by accident.

First, Natalie, Elise, and Tracey need a reality check. I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but life isn't an episode of Sex in The City, despite your best efforts. Realistically, few in their mid-20s have their lives so figured out. What Tracey hasn't told you is that her electric-blue dress was bought at either H&M or Le Chateau, because she couldn't afford anything better due to the sky-high rent she's paying for the Yaletown condo she couldn't afford to buy on her entry-level marketing coordinator salary. Her bright blonde hair is actually brown, and while she's the one buying at Commune tonight, it's all going on her Visa which is close to being maxed out, as she's living far above her means. Elise's job in "business development" is really just a low-level sales position, so she's slightly better off in that she can at least write off part of her clothing as an expense. As for Natalie, she may be at grad school in Ontario, but there's a very good chance mommy and daddy are footing that bill, along with her tab for the night's drinks. They may sit around and complain about Vancouver men, but they're part of the problem and unfortunately common in this city. Vacuous women who'll do nothing but talk about their designer shoes and gossip about who's sleeping with who, all while living a lifestyle they can't actually afford and expecting the guys they see around them to do the same. Do they go out and hike, bike, and kayak? Sure, but only enough to be able to tell their friends they do it.

Tracey being tired of spending the night in "chic" Whistler bars with guys who are dressed in baggy jeans and hoodies is laughable. Let's overlook the fact that there's really no such thing as a "chic" bar in Whistler and instead focus on the fact that it's a ski town. It's populated by, you guessed it, skiers and snowboarders who wear baggy jeans and hoodies and tourists. Sure, there's the odd W/B exec kicking around, and you can recognize him by the tell-tale signs: slightly more fitted jeans, a button-up shirt, and his very happy, very nice, athletic, intelligent wife with a great job who's out walking the dog while he takes care of the baby. He's not interested in you, and neither are any other guys there because you're the annoying, over-dressed girl with a sense of entitlement so big it doesn't quite fit into the bar. Tracey's issues with Whistler bars are easily solved by throwing on a pair of jeans and checking her attitude along with her coat. Sadly for her, she's too self-absorbed to realize this.

No one getting up to give her a seat on the bus when she's in 6 inch heels and "laden with packages"? Of course not. The guys on the bus have already given up their seats to the seniors with canes and mothers with strollers. You chose the 6 inch heels, live with them. Side note: This is something you'd only ever see or hear about in Vancouver. Go to New York, LA, Montreal, Toronto, or any other major city and while you might see women in 6 inch heels, they'll all be sensible about them and take cabs, drive, not carry a ton of packages with them, and maybe even wear flats until they get to where they're going. Besides, why are you wearing 6 inch heels? Are you so insecure with your height that you feel they're necessary? I'd usually just dismiss someone wearing 6 inch heels in this city with a casual "meh, she's probably a stripper," but in this case that'd be insulting to strippers everywhere, who are either too sensible to wear their stage shoes around town or make enough money to afford a car that they can drive to work while wearing their 6 inch heels. No, chivalry hasn't died, it just doesn't apply to your case of wearing ridiculous shoes while carrying a ton of, let's be honest, what are probably magenta shopping bags onto a crowded bus.

Complaining about Vancouver's sartorial standards is of course what comes next. No, this isn't New York, and no, I'm not wearing a suit daily. I don't need to. It's not that I can't, it's not that I don't have a half dozen suits ready to go in my closet, it's that I don't need to. When I do, I clean up rather well, thank you. If you're after guys in suits, move to New York or London, where suits are the standard uniform. This isn't that city, and while it might be a bit sloppy, the fact that we aren't required to wear suits does make the place more casual, which is nice. Besides, the jeans, button-up shirt with the sleeves casually pushed up, casual shoes, and the Arc'teryx jacket that keeps me try in the rain we get here cost me about what a decent suit would have cost me at Harry's. Looking this "bad" isn't cheap.

Yes, it may be easier to go out, meet people, flirt, and enjoy good nightlife in other parts of the country. Toronto's great for it, as is Montreal. I know, I've been in both cities extensively. It's also a lot easier to strike up conversation at places like Canadian Tire, while you're "buying windshield wipers," but my experience tells me that most Vancouver women don't know what windshield wipers are, would have no idea how to buy or install them, and have never stepped foot in a Canadian Tire. Besides, your 6 inch heels wouldn't work too well in 6 inches of snow and -30 temps. Do I prefer the nightlife in other parts of the country? Yes, and with good reason. That said, I'm also on vacation when I'm there, so I'm more likely to be open, having a good time, and generally just meeting people. A common phenomenon with people who are somewhere other than where they live.

"No one who's ambitious comes to Vancouver," because there are no head offices isn't quite true either. While it's definitely true that a promotion to a regional office in Vancouver is generally either considered a "thank you" to a long time executive or a way of getting rid of an under-performing employee, there are just as many regional-office employees who move to Vancouver to get away from having to work 80 hour work weeks and deal with idiotic office politics, all in the name of work-life balance. It might put a cap on your upwards potential, but when you can be out of the office by 3:30 pm and on a ski hill or in the yoga studio by 4, you don't really care too much. If these women cared to, they could come appreciate that freedom as well. If they don't, well, their loss I suppose.

Of course, there are actually a number of head offices in Vancouver, filled with ambitious guys. Video game producers, a major apparel company that you may have heard of named Lululemon, numerous resource-based companies where jeans are considered "semi-formal" wear because a lot of their time is spent in the field, etc. Then there's all the guys working at the head offices of much smaller financial companies that are into things like "wealth management for high net worth individuals" and all the guys working at head offices of companies involved in skiing, snowboarding, and other such sports. They're all ambitious, you just haven't bothered talking to any of them because they're reasonably casual in both appearance and demeanor. You may judge based on clothing but that's a very, very bad idea in this city. The guys dressed in jeans and scuffed shoes sitting at the longbar at Joeys at 2 pm on a Tuesday might be losers, but there's just as good a chance that they're mining-industry guys discussing yet another deal to sell their find or project to a bigger firm for big, big money. Welcome to Vancouver. It's still a humble place in many ways, and we're all the better for it. So no, we don't have head offices of huge banks and hedge funds out here, but again, if that's the kind of guy you're after, feel free to relocate to somewhere they are. Just know that if you do, you'll be competing with women who are more intelligent, more polite, and more interesting than you are along with having much better jobs, so you'll have next to no chance.

I wish the sense of entitlement and snobbiness that the women mentioned in the article are afflicted with wasn't as common as it is in Vancouver, but that's the reality of dating here. I've never lived in any city where such a large part of the female population is just so incredibly un-dateable, for lack of a better term. It's their attitude towards men, it's their lifestyles, it's their beliefs, it's how fake they end up being, it's how utterly incapable of interesting conversation they are, it's their tendency to complain about us at every turn, it's the huge amount of gold-digging that goes on here, it's the insidious way in which their families tend to get involved in making sure they date the "right" guys, it's their complete lack of ideals that are realistic for the city they live in, it's their completely overblown sense of how great they are, it's everything. Yes, they're good looking and fill out their Lululemon pants quite well, but that's not enough for me to bother anymore. Vancouver men are pretty good at keeping quiet about all of this, but I'm sick of hearing the same stuff spewed day-in and day-out by women in this city and tired of reading it in print. Enough's enough ladies, take a good look at yourselves when you're in front of the mirror every morning and repeat the following mantra "I'm not in New York and guys here are just as good as anywhere else."
Now If you'll excuse me, I'm out to go skiing, mountain biking, hiking, or grab an espresso.
BY FEDUPVANCOUVERGUY ON JAN 6 2012 AT 3:17 PM

[2 n r]

Read this - an epic comment made on the Vancouver Magazine website.


fucking :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowdown::bowdown:

[finbar]

Those three women talk like they can change a bunch of other people. The only people they, or anyone, can change are themselves.
Their current attitude is goldbricker.
Think happy, be happy.
Misery is optional.

[SupraTTturbo2jz]

now they complaining because men don't dress nicely out in public? tired of these dumb bitches, enough said

Hope someone writes a counter article. Do Vancouver Women ever shut up?

[Firmware]

Girls in vancouver are so fucking uptight, like they got a stick up their ass.

I see other girls in say California , they are so much nicer and nothing is up their asses.

[rsx]

What an epic comment by that fedup dude.

[LiquidTurbo]

I once helped this Vancouverite girl (wearing lulu type stuff) pick her up dropped crutch (she had a sprained ankle or something). Didn't even look at me or even say thanks and just went on her way.

End of public chivalry for me then. :fuckthatshit:

[MisterMu]

So how many of you complaining about this article are forever alone?
:troll:

[subordinate]

I once helped this Vancouverite girl (wearing lulu type stuff) pick her up dropped crutch (she had a sprained ankle or something). Didn't even look at me or even say thanks and just went on her way.

End of public chivalry for me then. :fuckthatshit:

She was probably dropped it for the good looking guy to help her out. :troll:

[Pooface55]

Dave Chappelle - Chivalry Is Dead - YouTube

[Ludepower]

This article really strikes a nerve with me...I wanna rage and pull my hair out reading this! Like someone said earlier...This has to be troll job written to counter the stigma associated with Vancouver women.

Its a waste of breath trying to explain the horrendous dating scene we have in Vancouver. Both sides are too blame for this but the females here have expectations WAY too high.

We're not a manufacturing blue collar city nor a central business hub. Vancouver is Hong Kong #2. We're an Asian dominated city...meaning our goals for status and money triumph all else. We have unlimited rich immigrants moving in and a drug trade that's the leading industry in our province.

What Im trying to say... the guys here living with their rich parents or running a drug line set the standards too high for the rest of us. These girls have been accustomed to the higher standard of living in Vancouver their whole lives. It's only natural they've become snotty with their LV bags demanding a shot for all their friends before you can have a conversation with them.

[dinosaur]

These women are cunts.

This would never have been published if it was a bunch of men judging women. Its all a fucking double standard.

We all know this happens...guys get together and talk about their frustrations with women, and chicks get together to rag on guys....but for some reason it seems more acceptable to shit talk guys.

This article and these opinions are pathetic.

[DSHDSH]

TL;DR: Women want to be treated special and as equals at the same time, more news at 11.

[shawnly1000]

LOL wow, this "article" is now being talked about by CTV news

[Gh0stRider]

Do Vancouver Women Suck? A Reader's Response

Katherine Ashenburg's piece, Do Vancouver Men Suck?, generated a huge response from our online readers, and sparked many insightful, often hilarious, comments. Here is our favourite

this is not necessarily intended as a rebuttal to "Do Vancouver men suck?", but more like an addendum that seeks to add another layer to the discussion of why dating in this city is tremendously complicated. You see, Katherine Ashenburg's article focuses on how men here are a bunch of ski bums who dress like teenagers and have no clue about how to court women. As a Mexican immigrant, I suppose her article does not apply to me...and I don't necessarily disagree with her assessment. However, the dating game is a dance of two, and I feel she misses half the story when she avoids any criticism of women in Vancouver. Thus, to fill the reciprocity gap (and expand on her final sentence), I hereby share my vision of "why women in Vancouver suck".

Warning: this may offend those who are absolutely paranoid about any sort of cultural generalizations. Although I agree that every human is unique and every case is different, blah blah blah, I also find that sketching some general attitudes about women in Vancouver is a useful exercise. As a person who has lived in Mexico, France, and Italy (arguably countries with some of the most romantic/forward men in the world, where women are used to being approached), I see a serious deficit in the way women handle the romantic prowess (or lack thereof, according to Katherine) of men here. Also, my generalizations don't come out of thin air, but are derived from 5 years of constantly meeting women in Vancouver, which has allowed me to find some common denominators in the way that women here react to men. If you disagree with some of these general attitudes, congratulations, you're an outlier. I wish you thousands of successful dates. (And, um, I would love to meet you.)

The best way to get my point across is to present you with some typical scenarios where strangers meet, and then explain how Vancouver women are so "special". Enjoy.

The girl on the bus

Buses are the quintessential way you come into close contact with strangers. They are, by definition, places where you experience close proximity with people you don't know. As such, they serve as a litmus test for the general approachability of people in a city. To me, they're a box full of potential for meeting new faces. Yes, I'm the annoying guy who talks to you on the bus. The dude who asks you, "How is your morning going?" or "Have you listened to the new Bon Iver album?" Yes, I fully believe that casual conversation makes us more human, and I never pass the chance of trying to sit close to the interesting-looking girl in the bus and open my mouth.

You know where this is going. The second you start talking to a Vancouver girl on the bus, you notice the automatic clenching of the fists. The tightening of the cheeks. The rapid eye movement looking for an escape route. I remember a girl who looked absolutely bored riding the #6 bus down Davie, from the West End into downtown. She was most likely my neighbour and, judging by the cool outfit, probably worked in some creative job in a startup in Gastown. She was one of those people that you spot and automatically feel like you would have a billion things in common with and you would already be BFFs if only you had been in the same Film Studies class at UBC. Her reaction to my non-intrusive, "Ahh, lovely sunrise with those heavy clouds in the distance, eh?" A dismissive "yahh," and a microsecond later she buried her face in her iPhone (probably to text Crime Stoppers). She was most likely thinking "HOW DARE HE?!"

Question: do they hire Latino men with my accent to sexually molest girls as part of some safety training in the BC high school curriculum? No? Reaaaaally? Well, IT CERTAINLY FEELS LIKE IT. I cannot stress this enough. Due to some bizarre learned cultural behavior, women in Vancouver experience an explosion of panic the second a man (who did not go to elementary school with them) talks to them. They can't hide it... adrenaline shows in the eyes and the mouth and everywhere on the face, and our brains are programmed to read whether a person is comfortable with you or not. As a guy who gets this reaction almost daily, I almost feel like saying "sorrrry, did I ruin your morning commute by putting your body on high defensive alert for the next 9 hours??"

Now, you might be thinking, maybe, Jorge, you approach women with the look of a hungry wolf that just spotted its prey, salivating at the sight of a mere 2 inches of exposed ankle. Perhaps. But those who have met me know that I'm a "nice" guy, and even if may sometimes be on a "mission", I approach people gently, in a non-imposing and friendly manner. (Yes, you might later find that I'm a bit hyperactive or get overexcited and talk A LOT if I find you interesting, and I'll probably recommend you go to 6 or 7 life-changing films playing THAT night...but that's waaaay after you've given me the initial green light, not after I get the look of a deer about to be murdered with a rifle).

The 18 kms of beaches

In a city with such precious beaches (Kits was recently rated North America's sexiest beach. By someone who clearly needs to travel more), you would think that summer here would be the ultimate place to meet your future life partner. Think again. Vancouver beaches have big logs for a reason. NOT for comfort when you read, but to MARK YOUR TERRITORY.

Let's start with an exercise. Close your eyes and think about the last time you went to Third Beach or Kits Beach or Jericho (Wreck does not count because everyone is high and they're not being themselves ) and played Frisbee with the strangers from the next log over. Or helped them apply sunscreen. Or organized a game of volleyball where nobody knew each other previously. Tough, eh?

You see, the beach is the one place where Vancouver women exercise a particular kind of double entendre. They spend 80 percent of the year getting fit, choose the perfect bikini, and then lay by themselves on a gorgeous beach with a book. But don't you dare intrude on their beach Zen. Seriously, what am I supposed to read from these visual cues? That you want to be left the fuck alone? Obviously.

I won't argue against the fact that everyone has a right to privacy and to enjoying public space without having to deal with some talkative Mexican who wants to meet you just because he happens to be at the same beach as you. However, the reaction I get when I (try to) talk to Vancouver women at the beach is invariably like crashing into a cement wall (mind you, at the beach I'm the quintessential douchebag with a ukulele who plays two songs and then expects all the girls to want to meet me just because I'm more...umm...sensitive). Monosyllabic responses and quickly looking over their shoulder as if the boyfriend were about to arrive, are the norm. Give. me. a. break.

I remember a girl at Spanish Banks once who briefly smiled at me when I glanced over. I was alone, so I decided to walk over and say hi. In a matter of minutes we were talking about music, some show she loved at the Push Festival, and asked about each other's job and family history. I also learned that she had a boyfriend, yet we continued our conversation for about an hour, until she had to leave to meet a friend for dinner. Before leaving she asked if she could text me later so that I could join her for a film with her friends, and I'm glad to say that we have remained close for more than a year now. In other words, she is a normal woman who is not afraid to...oh wait...she doesn't count, she is from Montréal.

The Park

Purely anecdotal. Last summer I walked to the park near Sunset Beach and spotted a girl who was sitting by herself with a full picnic kit (blanket, basket, book, wine, the works). As I walked by, I decide not to pass on the opportunity to meet a new face, so I said: "I was going to sit over there by myself, but you seem to have the perfect picnic setup. Can I join you?"

Now, I wasn't going to steal her food (I was carrying my own hummus and quinoa salad) nor drink her wine. I just wanted a conversation (because, yes, sitting with someone is usually infinitely better than sitting alone. Anywhere.)

After looking at me incredulously for about 6 seconds, she began to mutter something that went like "ahh, ummm... my... I was just about to leave, sorry." And then she packed her stuff and was gone. Wait, whaaat? I knew she didn't have to leave because I saw her set up her picnic blanket a mere 7 minutes before. AND she had to chug her glass of pinot grigio in order to leave.

I imagine that in another city, she may have said, "Sorry, I was hoping to have a picnic by myself, but thanks", or even, "Listen buddy, get your own piece of grass." Again, I understand that you're by yourself on purpose, but is it necessary to act like you saw a Sasquatch if you get approached in public? You see, it's one thing to be socially rigid (Germans, Swiss, etc), but an entirely different thing to be socially inept. Lesson: the problem with Vancouver women is that they leave you standing in the park alone, feeling like you just committed a crime.

Yes, Katherine, meeting women in Vancouver is indeed "daunting, strenuous, semi-natural, and so not romantic."

The Yaletown encounter

Not worth our time discussing this (though it sounds like Katherine's interview subjects , Natalie, Elise and Tracey, are Yaletowners). Like, yahhh. Like, why botherrrr? In all seriousness, though, trying to talk to a girl in the streets of Yaletown is like pretending your pet Chihuahua understands English. You will get the nervous look of a dog that knows it can be crushed by anything taller than a bonsai. That is...if you're not actually talking to her dog (because, the most common way to approach a woman in Yaletown is to direct your ice-breaker towards her pet Chihuahua, and then hope that she gets off her phone and actually says something other than "yahh, OMG, totally, wait...there's a creeper trying to touch my dog, LOL" and disappears into a yoga studio. )

I agree with Katherine that "Vancouver is in a class by itself." When it comes to paranoid, anti-social women, the ones in Vancouver seem to have written the book.

A glimmer of hope: coffee shops

I like happy endings. This treatise of women in Vancouver would not be complete if I didn't mention the only place where I find it somehow easy to have a good conversation with a stranger and get a number. (Omit for a second the fact that coffee shops in the world were INVENTED for that purpose)

In a coffee shop environment (not the chain variety, but real coffee shops, like Nelson the Seagull or Revolver), I find that women in Vancouver are particularly at ease when I smile at them. It may be that it's such a safe and non-threatening location (there's people around that can text Crime Stoppers for them) that they temporarily defrost their Vancouver ice wall. Or perhaps they're at a coffee shop precisely because they're so tired from a day's worth of fending off salivating wolves, that they landed there to rest and don't have any energy left to keep their defensive barrier in place. Whatever the reason, the coffee shop is where women in Vancouver become real: respond normally when you ask to borrow a chair, offer a friendly nod when you comment on the amazingness of the shoes they're wearing, poke fun at your accent, and appreciate some healthy banter. In other words, I haven't left Vancouver because some very sensible people decided to open amazing new coffee shops. Thank you. After all, we all need a place to feel human again.

http://www.vanmag.com/News_and_Features/Do_Vancouver_Women_Suck_A_Readers_Response

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ And that is why I chose not to bother any woman at all. The monent you try to even just say hi, they turn on their alarm lol.

Woman in Van generally base their descions on how a guy is dress @@ really now do I need to dress to be Mr.Perfect if I am know I am just going to window shop..... or just go out for a lunch or even just walk around the park/beach mall on my day off to relax? Hell no. I am going to try in casual wear (long selves, T-shirts, jeans and runners.....).

Is kinda of funny too my big big boss (owns a pretty well know developer in Van) always dress pretty casual when he is out as well. I bet the girls in the article prolly think my boss is some timer.

Also when I am on the bus I only give my seats to seniors. I am sorry but if you are in your 6inch heels taking a bus, fully knowing you will have to stand anyways and complain about it is just dumb. Is a right for anyone to give you a seat. Sorry to break ti to you buy when you are on a bus no one really cares how pretty your 6inch heels look in fact people will be thinking how stupid you are wearing 6inch heels on a bus.

[Infiniti]

The rebuttle article is well written and highlights valid points..Its one thing for them (women) have unreal expectations, BUT the attitude that alot of em with regards to men approaching them is completely wrong. Albeit, there are alot of weirdos and douchebags in this city that have definitely left a sour taste in many women's mouth (<--- insert sexual innuendo here)

[Bouncing Bettys]

The sense of entitlement seems to start early in childhood and lies with the parents. I was in a client's home doing a service call recently and walked past the kitchen table where they had 2 place mats set for their young son and daughter. The son's place mat had his name on it, while the daughter's had the title of "Princess" on hers. Immediately I thought: "wow, you are going to give your daughter a complex."

[butter_sashimi]

Woman in Van generally base their descions on how a guy is dress @@ really now do I need to dress to be Mr.Perfect if I am know I am just going to window shop..... or just go out for a lunch or even just walk around the park/beach mall on my day off to relax? Hell no. I am going to try in casual wear (long selves, T-shirts, jeans and runners.....).


It's a double edged sword. Many men in vancouver judge a woman on face, shape, overall look. Main factors in judging a woman boils down to beauty while its prosperity for men. I always think men have it better as success can be exuberated not only by looks but by your salary, prestige from working at a certain place, career choice. Though it all seems to point back to cash.

Anyhoo, maybe it's the bitter taste that's been left in my mouth that's talking... as Infiniti mentioned in his post. :suspicious: sigh...

There is no winner in the war of sexes!

[2damaxmr2]

Fuck bitches get money.

[sonick]

Read this - an epic comment made on the Vancouver Magazine website.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. That was amazing. :joy:

[Bonka]

Does it suck to date in Vancouver? - News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/318069--does-it-suck-to-date-in-vancouver)

Does it suck to date in Vancouver?
Men say women here are cold; women say men are lazy

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The question was asked, "Do Vancouver men suck?" Then it was, "Do Vancouver women suck?"

Vancouver Magazine has been stirring the pot. After pieces blasting both sexes, it has emerged that, generally, women think men are lazy underachievers and that men think women in Vancouver are cold.

The responses have been rather heated, from social media to the not-so-civil streets. "Men are horrible, they are pigs," one woman tells News1130. "A lot of the guys I have met are shallow, they only want one thing."

"The majority of men in Vancouver are horrible," says another regular clubber. "Unless, of course, they have money to spoil a woman. Then it's OK, I guess."

Men we spoke with say it can be tough to break that frigid, unwelcoming air when meeting women in Vancouver.

"You got to be an easy-going person to meet people," says one long-time resident. "You can't expect people to approach you, you have to approach people. It's give and receive, right? If you won't make the first move, that's what you get in return."

Both sexes do agree on one thing, dating can be very tough in Vancouver.

:fuckthatshit:

Always enjoy a good laugh in the morning :lol

[JD¹³]

"The majority of men in Vancouver are horrible," says another regular clubber. "Unless, of course, they have money to spoil a woman. Then it's OK, I guess."

:facepalm: What a stunned cunt, she is the epitome of women in Vancouver. A regular clubber that's only interested in money. YOU DON'T SAY!

[gdoh]

this article smells like bullshit to me.

For one Vancouver in itself is a shit hole where all the nice looking ladies are all looking to score big. When a guy acts courteous and nice and tries to spend time to listen to her he gets friendzoned because hes a really nice guy. Lets put it this way dating isnt what it used to be years ago. You gotta admit dating is pretty retarded where both the male AND female play this hard to get game. what happened to being straight up.

Edit:

Also forgot to add I dont think its all the guys fault as well for not being in for the occasion. How about the days when you take a woman out and she constantly is on her phone texting?

i fucking hate it when my gf goes on her phone all of the time when we go out because her friend txts her and they end up having a convo like wtf ive been going with you for almost 5 years and you still do this shit

[taylor192]

Do Vancouver Women Suck? A Reader's Response | Vancouver Magazine (http://www.vanmag.com/News_and_Features/Do_Vancouver_Women_Suck_A_Readers_Response)
This comment on that article rings true for men or women:
Yesterday, while walking up Commercial Drive, I tried an experiment. I tried smiling at every guy I saw, whether or not he was my "type" (and I wish it was otherwise, but I find very, very few guys are my "type"). Only one returned a smile, clearly surprised. The other five or so didn't even make eye contact or look at me long enough to even see that I was looking in their direction, let alone notice a smile.

I had a female friend that was having a hard time meeting people, I told her she just has to smile and put it to the test. We went for a run on the canal in Ottawa and smiled at everyone we passed. Almost all smiled back. What's funny is that we met during a running race in Ottawa, by exchanging smiles, so I knew it would work.

I've tried this while running the sea wall, false creek, and jericho/spanish banks - nothing, nada, zip, zero, ziltch. I've even tried a little wave, or head nod - little success.

People in this city are cliquey, like the article says. If you grew up here you have your little group of friends and cringe at anyone new infiltrating that circle. Of the people I've befriended here, most are from Alberta or Quebec.

[Glove]

stopped reading after the clothes description,

I knew it was going to be a disaster

[unit]

kits is north americas sexiest beach? wtF????? guess the guy who said that has never been to florida or california.
i doubt kits even ranks in the top 20

[unit]

i fucking hate it when my gf goes on her phone all of the time when we go out because her friend txts her and they end up having a convo like wtf ive been going with you for almost 5 years and you still do this shit

mine does that too. shes not THAT bad but i almost never do that to her.
when im with her my phone stays in my pocket unless its important.
her, she checks facebook, texts her sister, etc etc...

[melloman]

mine does that too. shes not THAT bad but i almost never do that to her.
when im with her my phone stays in my pocket unless its important.
her, she checks facebook, texts her sister, etc etc...

Same boat, I make a game of it when I get annoyed enough. Try taking her phone, try biting it, if I get it, I hide it.. hahah

[Over9K]

I blame Asians and the Indians

[Tapioca]

This comment on that article rings true for men or women:


I had a female friend that was having a hard time meeting people, I told her she just has to smile and put it to the test. We went for a run on the canal in Ottawa and smiled at everyone we passed. Almost all smiled back. What's funny is that we met during a running race in Ottawa, by exchanging smiles, so I knew it would work.

I've tried this while running the sea wall, false creek, and jericho/spanish banks - nothing, nada, zip, zero, ziltch. I've even tried a little wave, or head nod - little success.

People in this city are cliquey, like the article says. If you grew up here you have your little group of friends and cringe at anyone new infiltrating that circle. Of the people I've befriended here, most are from Alberta or Quebec.

When I'm out for runs, I always make eye contact with people who pass me by. You know who usually gives waves or nods back? Fellow male runners. In fact, I ran around Beaver Lake an hour ago and a guy with his dog gave me an acknowledging nod.

Women, however, seldom give me waves or nods unless I know them. I certainly dress the part too when I'm out on my runs in form fitting running gear. :lol
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

[unit]

you know, beaver lake has a bit of a reputation..

[Ludepower]

kits is north americas sexiest beach? wtF????? guess the guy who said that has never been to florida or california.
i doubt kits even ranks in the top 20

Yes...it's true...kits is highly rank....dont have a source though
But I believe it..Im proud to say Vancouver has HOT girls.
We eat good, we're fit, and have a diverse mix of nationalities.

[Noir]

I don't know. I've had pretty good success socializing with females before I got married.

You just gotta know which ones are approachable and which ones aren't. Though I'll agree that Vancouver can be pretty stuck up (both men and women), I'd say that's still only 20% - 30% of the population (that is just a rough rough rough guesstimation). The reason why I give credit that majority of Vancouverites are still friendly and approachable (even women as per topic), is because I doubt I owe my previous success to being THAT good.


The thing is, I would've avoided those women like the plague; and the hotspots (clubs, cafes, shops etc) that cater to them. Knowing how to read your environment, and developing your social calibration is just part of growing up. Obviously those girls in that article still hasn't learned either of them; so despite being in their mid-20's, I'd actually question the fact they consider themselves as "grown ups."


In addition, I'd hate to push the stereotype of us men being pigs, but women of that nature... are actually just good for one thing; and I don't feel bad about it.

[Gridlock]

I don't know. I've had pretty good success socializing with females before I got married.

You just gotta know which ones are approachable and which ones aren't. Though I'll agree that Vancouver can be pretty stuck up (both men and women), I'd say that's still only 20% - 30% of the population (that is just a rough rough rough guesstimation). The reason why I give credit that majority of Vancouverites are still friendly and approachable (even women as per topic), is because I doubt I owe my previous success to being THAT good.



The thing is, I would've avoided those women like the plague; and the hotspots (clubs, cafes, shops etc) that cater to them. Knowing how to read your environment, and developing your social calibration is just part of growing up. Obviously those girls in that article still hasn't learned neither; so despite being in their mid-20's, I'd actually question the fact they consider themselves as "grown ups"

I'm with you. I found a goodie at my ex's dinner table. Laid some ground work, and boom! 10 years later I had her.

[Noir]

I'm with you. I found a goodie at my ex's dinner table. Laid some ground work, and boom! 10 years later I had her.

It took you 10 years!!!! WTF???


jk I kid I kid. I read the real story from another thread (Relationship and Gender Disc.) and it's quite a good story.

[wc84]

This is all soooo true. Vancouver women are the most stuck up snobby bitches I've ever met. I've lived in Winnipeg, Calgary, Toronto, Victoria, and Vancouver. I work for an airline and travel everywhere, and Vancouver women are by far THE WORST! To top it all off, I dress very well, I'm friendly and approachable. I approached a woman in Vancouver last week, and the first words out of her mouth "are you gay?" I said "excuse me?" She replied you're dressed too well to be straight. WHAT THE *UCK!?!? They want us to dress well, and when we do, you're accused of being gay.

[subordinate]

Lol thanks for the story, I laughed.

[Mike Oxbig]

It seems to me that the author has never smoked "dope" and made love in the west coast. That's a true beauty to have here in Vancouver.

[dachinesedude]

so whats the proper way of dressing for a night out?

if im in sneakers and jeans, im a bum

if im in dress shoes with a buttoned shirt, im considered gay

:fulloffuck:

[JD¹³]

so whats the proper way of dressing for a night out?
Whatever you feel like wearing. Fuck the haters.

[gdoh]

^this, if she wont allow to wear what you want when you go out then something is wrong

imo looks are secondary when it comes to personality they are close though

[GLOW]

so whats the proper way of dressing for a night out?

if im in sneakers and jeans, im a bum

if im in dress shoes with a buttoned shirt, im considered gay

:fulloffuck:

better not wear a buttoned shirt and jeans, then they'll think you're a gay bum

:fulloffuck:

[spyker]

so whats the proper way of dressing for a night out?

if im in sneakers and jeans, im a bum

if im in dress shoes with a buttoned shirt, im considered gay

:fulloffuck:

Wear whatever you like,long as it's tasteful and compliments your shape.

The gay comment was from one dumb stuck up cunt in this city,not every girl in Vancouver is like her.You would be suprised how many decent girls there are in this city,you just got to know where to look.

[davidw1234]

Vancouver women...most of them are self-absorbed imo. Most of the ones I met constantly bitch about something, or won't even talk to you in the first place because "you're not my choi" (vegetable, aka. guy)

This article is bullshit, these 3 ladies seem to have expectations so high that they won't even find guys in Toronto. Why? I don't know how they look, I don't know their personality, but I do know one thing - they don't have class. They don't have that aura of elegance. They look like gold diggers to me. Yeah sure, lets say they look amazingly hot, I still wouldn't date/talk to her. Who the fuck would want to bring a girl like that out to family, business events?

Head down to DC/NYC/Boston...Heck, even Seattle. I've lived in NYC, Boston and Seattle a long time ago...the women there are so sultry with class (the one with manners, outgoing, hygienic, stylish...) its not even funny. The constant flirting and mysterious eye contact just makes you want to learn her more.\

Don't get me wrong though, there is a small population of girls in Vancouver who act completely different than the major population. Like what spyker said, you just got to know where to look.

[westopher]

I've found girls extremely friendly in this city. Of course there are some stuck up cunts in the mix, (like the fucking idiots in this story) but where aren't there? I have found when I smile or start a convo at the bar, beach, or wherever it is almost always reciprocated and taken with open arms. Although, I may have different tastes than the people who are having a tough time. I like girls that are a little more dressed down than some. I'm not chasing after chicks in stilettos and sausage casing dresses in yaletown. More hipster chicks in gas town for me. Although, I have found most from every genre to be quite friendly.

[Ludepower]

Wear whatever you like,long as it's tasteful and compliments your shape.


+1

Wear what makes you feel confortable.
Just make sure its not clothes thats been in the washer and dryer for 5 years!

[Death2Theft]

Is it just me or are the vancouver island girls much less snobby and more fun to be around.

[too_slow]

^You can say that about Kelowna girls as well

[spyker]

Is it just me or are the vancouver island girls much less snobby and more fun to be around.

It's not just you.Everytime I've gone to the island,I find it so easy to talk to girls,they are way more open and friendly to approach versus the women on the mainland.

[dasani604]

I believe nationality has a factor in girls being snobbish. For sure, I see Asian girls being stereotypically more snobbish, especially the ones not born in Canada. How is it on the non-asian girl front?

[falcon]

The same.

[hotjoint]

It's not just you.Everytime I've gone to the island,I find it so easy to talk to girls,they are way more open and friendly to approach versus the women on the mainland.

+1

[7seven]

Well Vancouver Island girls do have a rep, something about not being able to keep their legs closed and would suck start a leaf blower for a dollar :haha:

[SkinnyPupp]

I haven't been back in van for several years, but my experiences seem to be quite different for what people are describing here... :suspicious:

[7seven]

I haven't been back in van for several years, but my experiences seem to be quite different for what people are describing here... :suspicious:

Have to agree, while there are a few stuck up/snobby females, on the whole I find the majority pretty friendly and outgoing.

[Psykopathik]

all men suck, you don't need a fucking article to tell me that.

by the way I know 10 sex secrets that will drive women crazy as well a 1 simple rule that will help you lose weight. Eat less. That one is free.

[westopher]

by the way I know 10 sex secrets that will drive women crazy as well a 1 simple rule that will help you lose weight. Eat less. That one is free.
You sound like an xvideos pop-up.

[spyker]

Well Vancouver Island girls do have a rep, something about not being able to keep their legs closed and would suck start a leaf blower for a dollar :haha:

I have no problem with that,nothing better than a easy going friendly girl.

It's better than spending $1000+ on a designer purse for a lowermainland slut and all you get is a kiss on the cheek and a titty grab.You would need the jaws of life to pry those legs open if you don't have enough cash or drive a certain type of car,and sucked? the only thing getting sucked from you is the money coming out of your wallet.

[spyker]

all men suck, you don't need a fucking article to tell me that.

by the way I know 10 sex secrets that will drive women crazy as well a 1 simple rule that will help you lose weight. Eat less. That one is free.
You almost sound like a Tom Vu infomercial.

Btw,I rarely read your posts,too busy staring at your avatars.

[Bonka]

I have no problem with that,nothing better than a easy going friendly girl.

It's better than spending $1000+ on a designer purse for a lowermainland slut and all you get is a kiss on the cheek and a titty grab.You would need the jaws of life to pry those legs open if you don't have enough cash or drive a certain type of car,and sucked? the only thing getting sucked from you is the money coming out of your wallet.

Unfortunately, it can be argued that the existence of "golddiggers" are as much the fault of men as it is women.

To me, it's like deciding which came first, the chicken or the egg..

[too_slow]

You would need the jaws of life to pry those legs open

Holy shit, I spat out my pre-workout drink when I read this.. LOL:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

[miss_crayon]

This article is crap. Stop blaming the men and start realizing it's you (women). This article only applies to the women who have this false entitlement they deserve shit. It's funny because I actually read this from a retweet from Jillian Harris (Vancouver bachelorette) who said she agreed or something. Coming from someone who had to go on a game show to find love...yeah..okay. *rolls eyes*