[Vancouver240sx]

Hey Guys,

I'm new to this section, definitely learned a lot, but been mostly a lurker. Lately crossfit workouts have captured my attention and I've been working on them at my gym. Going to be taking 5 classes at a local crossfit gym starting February to try it out.

Thought I'd start up a thread for people who wanted to share crossfit workouts, techniques, experiences, workouts ect ect.

Here are some videos of workouts or techniques I've found, that I enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvhxum803go

CrossFit - WOD 120107 Demo with Tommy and Taylor - YouTube

CrossFit - WORKOUT FROM HELL! (Chris Spealler and Jason Khalipa) - YouTube

Mirada Oldroyd, Mary Lampas CrossFit WOD 101015 - YouTube

CrossFit - "Proper Bench Technique" with Shane Sweatt and Laura Phelps-Sweatt - YouTube

Mwod - YouTube

There are plenty more!

rich

[DC5-S]

I'm not going to watch ANY of those videos! Crossfit SUCKS.. I'm boycotting this thread
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[Vancouver240sx]

Hahaha great 1st comment. Any reason why crossfit "SUCKS"? I'm kinda new to it, still learning. If you have some reason as to why it isn't good I'd love to hear it.

rich

[hal0g0dv2]

http://i44.tinypic.com/20s8war.gif

[DaFonz]

Hahaha great 1st comment. Any reason why crossfit "SUCKS"? I'm kinda new to it, still learning. If you have some reason as to why it isn't good I'd love to hear it.

rich

Because it's not a workout, it's an extreme sport where the mentality is no pain, no gain at all costs.

Here's why I think Crossfit is retarded:

- You do olympic lifts for speed. Heavy olympic lifts for speed. Oly lifts are hard enough to do with good technique by themselves; you throw in a speed component and you're asking to get hurt
- Ask yourself why crossfit exercises standardize on a single weight regardless of how much you weigh. Look at the WOD as an example. How do they come up with the weights? They're completely arbitrary
- To get "certified" in crossfit, you can take a weekend course and TADA, you suddenly know about crossfit.
- They're of the mindset that if you can't do a WOD, then you aren't tough and shouldn't do crossfit and that there are absolutely no other ways other than to do met-con shit.
- Crossfit doesn't make you strong. At least not as quickly as a good progressive program will.

Also, see this site:
Crossfit: The White Papers (http://joshsgarage.typepad.com/Crossfit_White_Papers_--_Timeline.html)

tl;dr: Crossfit is for retards.

[Vancouver240sx]

Interesting stuff!

For the most part I've enjoyed it because of the muscle endurance aspect. I recently joined a soccer team and pushing hard with a crossfit style workout does kinda simulate the pressure you put on yourself physically with a 90 mins game.

You definitely make some good points about the weights and poor technique you see out there.

But there has to be a balance. Lets say for example the 3rd video I posted "Crossfit - Workout From Hell". That I could see being a great benchmark workout for anyone as it doesn't use much weight at all and its mostly mental by the end.

Then for other days of the week you could continue a more standard 'program' as you called it.

rich

[Excelsis]

do yourself a favor and join an Olympic weightlifting club to show you how to weightlift properly

crossfit = reps > form :heckno:

it's only a matter of time before you seriously injure yourself
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[DaFonz]

Interesting stuff!

For the most part I've enjoyed it because of the muscle endurance aspect. I recently joined a soccer team and pushing hard with a crossfit style workout does kinda simulate the pressure you put on yourself physically with a 90 mins game.

You definitely make some good points about the weights and poor technique you see out there.

But there has to be a balance. Lets say for example the 3rd video I posted "Crossfit - Workout From Hell". That I could see being a great benchmark workout for anyone as it doesn't use much weight at all and its mostly mental by the end.

Then for other days of the week you could continue a more standard 'program' as you called it.

rich

Ok, here's a question - why would I want to do a benchmark workout?

If I was training for aesthetics, then I'd want to lift weights and wouldn't care about my score on an arbitrary crossfit "workout".
If I was training for a specific sport, I'd substitute a workout that's more applicable. For example, if I was to train for soccer, I'd lift weights and run intervals. Running > Workout from Hell in a soccer context.

Crossfit is a niche sport at best.

Oh and Crossfit SUCKS

[vcrbmw]

Agreed with a lot of the comments here. I did Crossfit for a year.

Having stated that, if you are going to do Crossfit, I would recommend Crossfit Overdrive in Richmond. Unlike a lot of Crossfit boxes, the coaches there are very strict with regards to technique.

[sas]

Typical Crossfitter:

Learns how to power snatch in 2 days: thinks he is an olympic champion
Learns how to box squat: Now an elite powerlifter
Throws some tires lift an atlas stone: Strongman

Here's my advice if you must do crossfit:

Avoid oly lifts or other big compound lifts if you are tired (mentally and physically). There are much better ways you can achieve your goals without having to resort to crossfit. No one cares that you did 100 reps of sloppy cleans after your swinging pull ups.

Friends don't let friends do crossfit, remember that..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLoKBmPQzDo

[Stealthy]

Hahaha great 1st comment. Any reason why crossfit "SUCKS"? I'm kinda new to it, still learning. If you have some reason as to why it isn't good I'd love to hear it.

rich

http://i.imgur.com/Kqctx.gif

brb this is considered functional strength

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoX91wuf0B0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDDyxXyf6UU

Form is not important, as long as you get the weight up.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af61/slimkillz19/gifs/jerry.gif

[sas]

moar crossfit gifs!!
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[lowside67]

More videos of Kristy doing pullups...

[jeffh]

where was someone doing pullups? i see alot of seizures going on in this thread

[RRxtar]

Typical Crossfitter:

CrossFit Games 2009 Blair Morrisons 215 Snatch - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLoKBmPQzDo)
forget the guy in the front, look at the guy in the back at the end!

:heckno:

[woob]

bad form videos reminded me of this:

1000 pushups in 21:50. World Record- part 2 - YouTube

[spideyv2]

bad form videos reminded me of this:

1000 pushups in 21:50. World Record- part 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEtmqnfmjo)

Looks like hes doing the worm
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[SkinnyPupp]

btw as retarded as crossfit is, I wouldn't automatically shit on people who do it. There are some good trainers out there. My friend's wife is an olympic lifter and trains crossfit, and she is pretty smart when it comes to lifting and diet. However she does endorse kipping pullups so... :badpokerface: we got into a big argument about that

[Excelsis]

i'm all for crossfit if they promote say form is more important than how many reps you do, if not well then... and teach people who do crossfit to not have gey attitudes and ego freaks

[Vancouver240sx]

Ok, here's a question - why would I want to do a benchmark workout?

I believe having benchmark workouts are good to keep track of improvement and setting goals.

If I was training for a specific sport, I'd substitute a workout that's more applicable. For example, if I was to train for soccer, I'd lift weights and run intervals. Running > Workout from Hell in a soccer context.

Im sorry I don't agree that just weights and running are enough to train for a 90 minute soccer game in mid field. The last 20 mins of the game are not an exercise in your physical abilities but they are mental. Crossfit workouts are the only ones I've ever done where I have to push myself mentally to complete them.

I am very interested in this discussion, and without a doubt agree with some negative points people have made. But this issue of form kinda bugs me because it is UP to you to seek out the correct form. So if YOU are personally really worried about it (like I am), you'll do everything to strive to do it right.

Rich

PS. SkinnyPupp I just think they should change the name of "Kipping pullups" to something else. It is a different exercise I believe. The kip ups are more about getting your hear rate going. imho

[SkinnyPupp]

Whatever you want to call them, they are pointless. And I've had someone tell me they are more difficult than hanging pullups :fulloffuck:
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[xilley]

Revival Strongman - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDDyxXyf6UU)



Wtf?
is that actually 45 plates x3 on each side?
plus the 45 lb bar?

[DaFonz]

I believe having benchmark workouts are good to keep track of improvement and setting goals.

Im sorry I don't agree that just weights and running are enough to train for a 90 minute soccer game in mid field. The last 20 mins of the game are not an exercise in your physical abilities but they are mental. Crossfit workouts are the only ones I've ever done where I have to push myself mentally to complete them.

I am very interested in this discussion, and without a doubt agree with some negative points people have made. But this issue of form kinda bugs me because it is UP to you to seek out the correct form. So if YOU are personally really worried about it (like I am), you'll do everything to strive to do it right.

Rich

PS. SkinnyPupp I just think they should change the name of "Kipping pullups" to something else. It is a different exercise I believe. The kip ups are more about getting your hear rate going. imho

But those workouts have absolutely no carry over to what you're training for. Again, I go back to my original point:
- If you're training for a specific sport, then do sport specific benchmarks. If I was training to be a sprinter, I'd care about how fast I could run, not the time I could do a workout in.
- If I was lifting, then my weights would be my benchmark.

If you can't push yourself mentally then it's a function of your own mental toughness, not a function of crossfit workouts. Example - you telling me that running 20 x 100m with 1 minute breaks isn't a challenge mentally?

The form thing is one, but Crossfit workouts and the general attitude of no pain, no gain lead to injuries when doing things like boxjumps as quickly as possible. What's more, the programming makes NO SENSE. Crossfit (last I checked, I may be wrong) completely does away with the idea of periodization and training cycles believing that you can push yourself all the time.

If crossfit was so great, why isn't it a common training regime for olympic athletes?

I maintain my position that crossfit is retarded.

[jeffh]

^lol no, thats those rubber weights. not sure how much each weighs

[Excelsis]

another about crossfit.. you're mostly training for endurance

I just saw a video of Dana Bailey doing 20x bench, 20x squats, and as many cleans as possible, rest for 2 minutes and all over

goodbye muscle :fuckthatshit:
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[SkinnyPupp]

Here's an extremely scientific post on why crossfit is stupid

Science of Running: Crossfit endurance, Tabata sprints, and why people just don’t get it (http://www.scienceofrunning.com/2012/01/crossfit-endurance-tabata-sprints-and.html)

And here is some more video evidence why it is stupid

CrossFit Journal - Marissa's Story - YouTube

[Excelsis]

the only endurance exercise i've ever liked was running

eh and trainer is going to kill marrissa one day

switch mentality of crossfit into being safe, and make it for bodybuilders that want to lose muscle mass and it's a good industry!

[neggo]

Here's an extremely scientific post on why crossfit is stupid

Science of Running: Crossfit endurance, Tabata sprints, and why people just don’t get it (http://www.scienceofrunning.com/2012/01/crossfit-endurance-tabata-sprints-and.html)

And here is some more video evidence why it is stupid

CrossFit Journal - Marissa's Story - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiURWu-PzJM)

Good read.

[RayBot]

When my friend introduced me to his crossfit instructor, he said "This is the kind of training thats used for military, firemen and policemen, etc...."

Heres a thread response on a different forum that came from a person with a military background:

Coming from a military background, I have to admit that CrossFit is a huge leap forward from the traditional PT that typical military units follow. I.e. running in formation, pushups, pullups, crunches. The variety and introduction of added weight is exactly what was needed. However, much more is needed to the program. To you "1000" what you're doing, as from what you've said, is not CrossFit.

"You've essentially taken the idea, seen its flaws (at least some of them), and written your own programs, ect. for your clients. You could then do as the creator of CrossFit did, and copyright that. Really, the ultimate flaw in the CrossFit system is the lack of a "program" or a system. I consider it "Chaos for time." Sure, you can get fit doing it, and a select few get very fit. But to point to a beginner in a CrossFit program and say they "got strong doing CrossFit" is wrong.

Place that same beginner in another discipline in resistance training and they'll get stronger as well, focus them specifically on a strength program like 5/3/1 and they'll become much stronger than a beginner at a CrossFit gym. My personal experience with CrossFit, like I said is from a military aspect, and I am not impressed.

The guys tout this method and compare themselves to me quickly see that they're on shaky ground and walk away. Like "njrusmc" wrote above, With any timed event, there is room for sloppiness." Doing squats for time quickly turns into doing something resembling a squat for time, dead lifts are like waiting for a train wreck. The average CrossFitter is not impressive physically or strength wise (conditioning is a little harder to determine without observation) then there are outliers, but don't let them define the average, thats why they're outliers.

From personal experience, I've done some CrossFit workouts with the "guru's" in my command. Yes, it was challenging, but then I gave him my own workout (days later), which consisted of only zercher squats. Not only did he lack the flexibility to do it properly, his strength was horrible. And those of you who've done them (properly from the floor), zerchers are a whole body exercise. I can't remember what coach said it, but essentially it boiled down to zerchers being the single exercise of their choice for testing overall strength."

[SkinnyPupp]

For those wondering about Zercher squats

Dead Start Thick Bar Zerchers 365lbsx5 - YouTube

They look fucking beastly, but sort of retarded in a way. It seems like much more weight and that guy is going to harm himself

[nns]

I don't like it when people rest their clothes, water bottle, cell phone, etc on a bench. The bench is for working out, not a table for you to put your crap on to.

How hard is it to stash your crap in a locker? All you should need is a water bottle, and leave that on the ground.

[Shades]

^Maybe they want to reserve their spot while they jump to another exercise?

[nns]

LOL, I just realized i posted that in the wrong thread. Sorry, it was meant to go in the general workout thread.

No, some people just see a bench and put stuff on it. They don't intend on using it to workout. They'll rest their crap there, then do kettlebell exercises next to the bench - not ON it.

[Vancouver240sx]

Fittest men on earth - YouTube

I'll keep posting videos because I think it's interesting and it will keep the conversation going. Found this one today. Not really technique or anything, but two guys at the top of the 'crossfit' ladder working out for a day.

I also wanted to mention, I don't believe JUST doing crossfit workouts at the way to go for an overall fitness level. I personally like to have a lot of variation in workouts. From swimming, to running, playing soccer, ect ect. Doing crossfit workouts, especially those that do not involve the olympic style workouts are a great way to push myself in a different style. Going to the gym and banging out supersets and more traditional routines can get stagnant, and does not offer the kind of diverse training I am looking for.

rich

[Stealthy]

Passing Thrusters - YouTube

[Excelsis]

Weak, they didn't stand on balls :troll:

[DaFonz]

Passing Thrusters - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cataio6H-s)

Wow, I totally can't see anything wrong with this workout.

God, what will those crosstards come up with next?

[Excelsis]

Squat Injury - YouTube

:noob:

[Vancouver240sx]

More workouts I've either tried or plan to:
CrossFit - WOD 120208 Demo with Laura Dziak - YouTube

CrossFit - Speal vs Khalipa "Modified Cindy" - YouTube

CrossFit - WOD 120215 Demo with CrossFit Rocks - YouTube

rich

[nns]

Sorry for the bump, but I felt I had to share this:
CrossFit Fail Compilation 2 - YouTube

[hal0g0dv2]

seriously like wtf

[SkinnyPupp]

LOL @ the 30 second deadlift attempt

Mirin his grip strength though lol

[PepperThyAngus]

Here's an extremely scientific post on why crossfit is stupid

Science of Running: Crossfit endurance, Tabata sprints, and why people just don’t get it (http://www.scienceofrunning.com/2012/01/crossfit-endurance-tabata-sprints-and.html)

And here is some more video evidence why it is stupid

CrossFit Journal - Marissa's Story - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiURWu-PzJM)

i'd let her do me a clean and jerk

[BN-604]

these videos looks messed up

[Vancouver240sx]

I'm not sure I get the point you guys are trying to make by posting the fail videos. I could walk into steve nash tomorrow and film 30 guys doing exercises with terrible form.

They are funny, but why not post up something to contribute.

rich

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not sure I get the point you guys are trying to make by posting the fail videos. I could walk into steve nash tomorrow and film 30 guys doing exercises with terrible form.

They are funny, but why not post up something to contribute.

rich

Well I posted a pro Crossfit video made by Crossfitters, , and they are just as bad as the ones against it :fuckthatshit:

[JSilver]

Someone please lock this thread.

[kwy]

stupid fucking fad.

[spideyv2]

Here's an extremely scientific post on why crossfit is stupid

Science of Running: Crossfit endurance, Tabata sprints, and why people just don’t get it (http://www.scienceofrunning.com/2012/01/crossfit-endurance-tabata-sprints-and.html)

And here is some more video evidence why it is stupid

CrossFit Journal - Marissa's Story - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiURWu-PzJM)

wow, what the fuck is this? watching this pisses me off

[Powerslide]

I never trained at a cross-fit specific gym, but I did do workouts that were very similar to cross-fit when I was training heavily last year.

Since the thread asked for some workouts, here's one I love to hate.

LOUDER THAN 10.

5x ball slams (medium weight)
10x pushups (bodyweight)
15x kettlebell swings (heavier)

repeat 11 times for time. No rest between sets

edit - and how could I forget the infamous '300' workout from hell.

"300"

25x pull-up
50x pushup
50x deadlift (medium-heavy)
50x box jump (24")
50x floorwipers
50x kettlebell cleans
25x pull-up

for time. First time I did it it took me 30 minutes, I managed to take my time down from there. The deadlifts are challenging.

[SkinnyPupp]

"300"

25x pull-up
50x pushup
50x deadlift (medium-heavy)
50x box jump (24")
50x floorwipers
50x kettlebell cleans
25x pull-up


What is the point of this workout?

[Vancouver240sx]

Cool stuff powerslide!

I've often looked at that 300 workout and thought.. hmmm next time. I'll have to give it a go.

rich

[DaFonz]

What is the point of this workout?

It's not even a real workout. It was a one time test for the crew of 300.

Gym Jones / Knowledge (http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge/article/3/)

[SkinnyPupp]

But again, what's the point? It's not like they need to be that fit for the movie anyway. Steroids + diet + makeup + special effects is all they ever needed.

:fulloffuck:

[Vancouver240sx]

SkinnyPupp, what is the point of any workout in your mind?

rich

[Berzerker]

Rich from your posts it's obvious your an advocate for Crossfit. Seeing as your the only one here who likes/does it why not cut your losses and stop arguing for it.

Crossfit does NOTHING better than any other workout. You can get better results FASTER and EASIER by following a Strength Building program or an Endurance Program. Mixing Strength Workouts one day and Endurance Workouts another is far more beneficial than combining the two into a sloppy hyped up race against the clock.

OH and for the record that fitness challenge I participated in the gymnast girls were doing those fucking kipping pullups. It doesn't even take any strength your just using momentum on an axis to propel your body over the bar.

Berz out.

[Vancouver240sx]

I wouldn't go as far as to say advocate. I enjoy doing the workouts myself and totally understand people using other methods.

What I don't understand is people such as yourself thinking you have the RIGHT way and EVERYONE has to do it that way to achieve the arbitrary results that you would like to see.

By posting crossfit stuff I am not saying I think it is the ONLY way to train, it is just another way that I find joy doing. Your OPINION may be different than mine, but that doesn't make me wrong.

rich

[Berzerker]

There is no right or wrong.
If you enjoy it, then all the power to you. I think what irks people though is the fact they are claiming that "crossfit" is the best way to get strong and build endurance. Crossfit comes across as "holier than thou" and they are preying on peoples lack of knowledge to convert them to a system that, by design, offers nothing of benefit over conventional strength and endurance training. Sure it mixes things up and if that's what you need to keep yourself interested in working out congrats but don't let it fool you into thinking that it's the best, easiest, or blah blah way to get in shape because it's not.

In fact it's actually detrimental to building muscle and I would say your risk of injury is substantially higher doing those retard lifts and timing yourself. With fatigue comes poor form, with poor form comes injury.

Berz out.

[DaFonz]

I wouldn't go as far as to say advocate. I enjoy doing the workouts myself and totally understand people using other methods.

What I don't understand is people such as yourself thinking you have the RIGHT way and EVERYONE has to do it that way to achieve the arbitrary results that you would like to see.

By posting crossfit stuff I am not saying I think it is the ONLY way to train, it is just another way that I find joy doing. Your OPINION may be different than mine, but that doesn't make me wrong.

rich

What results are we talking about here?

Strength? Not crossfit.
Cardio? Not crossfit.

Oh wait, I got it...

Being able to kip lots. Crossfit.

My OPINION is that Crossfit is retarded and has nonsensical programming. It encourages a cult-like environment that in of itself wouldn't be so bad except that it's indoctrinated in everyone's mind that no pain is no gain. This is detrimental, especially to noobs, when they hurt themselves doing stupid shit like olympic lifts for time.

We get it. You think crossfit is cool and want to spread the word. That's your prerogative.

We think it's retarded and will do anything to dissuade people from doing it.

[Shades]

I don't know much about Crossfit but I am an avid gym goer. I think if people see Crossfit as a sport rather than a method of training the body that can possibly replace going to a regular gym, then there would be less hate for Crossfit.

Let's use ballet as an example. Dance is a sport. Most guys would find it gay and hate it. But if they try it, then they'll see how difficult and taxing on the body it is to jump and kick to music all the while making it look easy.

Like any sport, some people will like it and some people won't.

[Phozy]

...Or it's because they want to do this :troll:

http://i.imgur.com/OsrcK.jpgprops to dhillon

[Vancouver240sx]

I'm just going to post shit I find fun/interesting to do. Don't feel like arguing over opinions.

CrossFit - WOD 120427 Demo with Zach Forrest - YouTube

rich

[SkinnyPupp]

SkinnyPupp, what is the point of any workout in your mind?

rich
Which workout are you referring to?

The goal of a strength workout is to build strength.

The goal of a cardio workout is to build cardio.

The goal of an endurance workot is to build endurance.

The goal of an explosive training workout is to build explosiveness

et cetera.

The goal of doing 50 blindfolded deadlifts followed by 25 kipping pullups is.... what? Brag about being able to do 50 blindfolded deadlifts followed by 25 kipping pullups to your crossfit buddies?

[Powerslide]

It's not even a real workout. It was a one time test for the crew of 300.

Gym Jones / Knowledge (http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge/article/3/)

I was actually training with someone at the time who had been training at gym jones in the states.

You're right - it isn't really a 'workout', more of a challenge. In fact the first one I posted is a challenge too.

So are 1 minute all-out sprints on the airdyne.

One thing I will mention, from personal experience training in this way I noticed SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT in my athletic performance. It was quite noticeable, especially for sports where you start/stop and sprint, followed by hitting.

My recovery time also rapidly improved.

But, i do agree with Berz and Skinnypup - Strength training and cardio are ALSO EFFECTIVE. Which is why I continue to strength train and only do the crossfit type stuff a few months per year.

But I will say this: I have not ever been so close to my physical and mental endurance limits as I was when I was training like that.

[neggo]

I don't care if crossfit is stupid or not...they have some hot girls with tight bodies :fullofwin:

Crossfit, in that sense, is doing something very right :troll:

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't care if crossfit is stupid or not...they have some hot girls with tight bodies :fullofwin:

Crossfit, in that sense, is doing something very right :troll:
Damn right!

09 Beautiful Crossfit Women - List09 (http://www.list09.com/beautiful-crossfit-women/)

[Vancouver240sx]

CrossFit - WOD 120510 Demo with CrossFit Excel - YouTube

rich

[Berzerker]

Lol they cheat a their own sport! Mixed grip pullups what the fuck. Hahah

Berz out.

[DaFonz]

Wooooooo crossfit!

CrossFit Fail Compilation - YouTube

CrossFit Fail Compilation 3 - YouTube

Crossfit Fail Compilation 4 - YouTube

[SkinnyPupp]

OMG @ 2:17 of the first video :fulloffuck:

[GGnoRE]

Jesus wow a lot of these guys are just killing the tendons/cartilage in their knee.
They might not feel the damage now but wait until these guys hit 50+. They are going to suffer some serious arthritis.
You don't trust me? Film yourself and show your doctor.

crossFIT? more like crossFUCKed.

[Excelsis]

please don't tell me they wear gas masks to work with limited oxygen...


and are they going on their knees after snatches on purpose? dafuq :fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't think it's on purpose, but rather a result of their "do whatever it takes to finish a rep, even injure yourself" mentality that is the major problem with crossfit

[odishaw]

lol i like this thread

[vcrbmw]

OMG @ 2:17 of the first video :fulloffuck:

The very worst thing about Crossfit is the cult mentality. I actually think it's fine as a general fun workout.

Some gyms simply don't pay enough or any attention to proper form. If you read commits from Crossfit threads / forums, the diehard would jump on you for questioning anything done in the video, regardless if it's about poor form when lifting heavy weights ("it's ok to go ugly on your PR"), or about very pregnant women lifting heavy weights in Olympic lifts ("its good for the baby; doctors are wrong"), or pre-adolescence deadlifting over 200 lbs ("that's old science; doctors are wrong"), or an insane fat based diet ("science is wrong; read Adkins").

[SkinnyPupp]

The very worst thing about Crossfit is the cult mentality. I actually think it's fine as a general fun workout.

Some gyms simply don't pay enough or any attention to proper form. If you read commits from Crossfit threads / forums, the diehard would jump on you for questioning anything done in the video, regardless if it's about poor form when lifting heavy weights ("it's ok to go ugly on your PR"), or about very pregnant women lifting heavy weights in Olympic lifts ("its good for the baby; doctors are wrong"), or pre-adolescence deadlifting over 200 lbs ("that's old science; doctors are wrong"), or an insane fat based diet ("science is wrong; read Adkins").
I was with you until your last point. Diet is the one thing Crossfitters know about

[vcrbmw]

I was with you until your last point. Diet is the one thing Crossfitters know about

The Paleo Diet is not very well thought of by dietitians and MDs. Probably not good for you in the long run. The point is that we can at least discuss it here. In a Crossfit forum, people would want to hang me.

Again, there is nothing wrong with Crossfit as a hobby / sport in and of itself. Probably not the best as a supplement to your main sport though.

[SkinnyPupp]

The Paleo Diet is not very well thought of by dietitians and MDs.

Oh boy

[DaFonz]

The Paleo Diet is not very well thought of by dietitians and MDs. Probably not good for you in the long run.

But you're wrong...

[vcrbmw]

But you're wrong...

Look, you can eat whatever your like. I just would rather not follow the Paleo Diet.

[MindBomber]

Look, you can eat whatever your like. I just would rather not follow the Paleo Diet.

Discussion of diet plans, guaranteed controversy.

Everyone has an opinion and an allegiance to a different diet, and are more than willing to argue the benefits of it.

[Powerslide]

I've had great success on relatively strict paleo diet cycles.

I found that overall I just started implementing some of the concepts into my regular eating and I feel much better overall than I did before.

Eat less refined foods, more meat and vegetables, cut down on dairy. Kind of seems like a no-brainer.

But Mindbomber's right - we could debate on this forever

[MindBomber]

In my opinion, the ideal diet is as illusive as alchemy. The basics can be understood, sure, but the complete picture, not a chance.

In pre-agricultural societies diets vary massively and definite extremes exist; Inuit people traditionally maintain diets composed nearly exclusively of raw meat, while South American indigenous people traditionally consume diets with much more plant life. The human body is very adaptable, and therefore there is no definite right and no definite wrong. Both Northern Canadian and South American indigenous people were traditionally very healthy people. despite the radically different diets. I'm healthy and my diet is inversely opposed to Skinnypup's, who is also healthy. If someone can develop a formula to pin point the ideal diet based on a persons unique body chemistry and activity levels, they'd win a noble prize. Until then, arguing the finer points is all well and good, but there's no definite right or wrong.

Just my opinion.

To keep the thread on topic - Crossfit sucks.

[SkinnyPupp]

How different are the diets of indigenous northern canadians who ate mostly fish and meat with a bit of roots, to the indigenous south americans who ate mostly meat and fish with a bit of roots?

[MindBomber]

How different are the diets of indigenous northern canadians who ate mostly fish and meat with a bit of roots, to the indigenous south americans who ate mostly meat and fish with a bit of roots?

99% meat diet versus diets with lower than 25% meat, from the reading I have done.

[SkinnyPupp]

Who ate 25% meat? That can't be pre-agriculture

Before agriculture, I don't think any humans ate 25% meat. Probably more in the 95-99% range. There are still many tribes who still do...

In fact, it was hunting for meat which allowed our digestive systems to shrink, and in turn allowed our brains to grow. If we ate like vegetarians throughout our evolution, we'd still be apes.

[MindBomber]

Who ate 25% meat? That can't be pre-agriculture

Before agriculture, I don't think any humans ate 25% meat. Probably more in the 95-99% range. There are still many tribes who still do...

It's more difficult to acquire meat than it is edible plant life in certain areas of the world, hence the lower rate of meat consumption in those areas even pre-agriculture.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's more difficult to acquire meat than it is edible plant life in certain areas of the world, hence migration from those areas even pre-agriculture.
Fixed ;)

[instantneedles]

I like how theres always so much controversy/beef in this thread hahaha

[DaFonz]

I like how theres always so much controversy/beef in this thread hahaha

Fuck yah beef!

http://steamykitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/steak_filet_sliced_sq1.jpg

[Vancouver240sx]

CrossFit - WOD 100707 Demo with Chris Spealler - YouTube

rich

[DaFonz]

Hitler loses members to CrossFit - YouTube

[Chronix]

http://i.imgur.com/fYdaQ.jpg

[Excelsis]

what's with the 4 plates, is that so they can get ego boost?

[Chronix]

i heard its the weight EVERYONE (doesnt matter if youre a noob or not) start off with. regularized.

seeing the vid of a cerebral palsy girl doing it was fucking sad. fuck you crossfit

[danny_d19]

http://i.imgur.com/fYdaQ.jpg

lol @ chestbrah chop http://cdn.revscene.ca/forums/images/smilies/joy.png

[SkinnyPupp]

Hitler loses members to CrossFit - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2b2x6C5o0)
I lol'd at the "it's okay" line :lawl:

[sas]

Those plates equate to 10lbs. They can be useful if you are teaching beginners to pull from the correct height. It is light enough that you can drill technique at the right height.

Or in the case of crossfit, the emphasis is on volume so the intensity can't be too high. Some guy was watching me snatch the other day and asked me what my, 'Fran', time was.. Interesting

[Vancouver240sx]

not really crossfit but something I want to try out. so I thought I'd put it up

3 rounds of:
Strength & Conditioning Circuit #1 Part1 - YouTube

rich

[instantneedles]

Robb Wolf critiques CrossFit - YouTube

^what he says. spot on 2:57 especially

[Berzerker]

That guy sounds like a bitch. All butthurt from getting "kicked out of Crossfit"

The biggest line I agree with however from that whole thing is when he says that almost ALL the Elite Crossfit guys are guys who were Elite Athletes from other places that decided they were going to do Crossfit. Crossfit didn't make them Elite, they were Elite and therefore good at Crossfit. Crossfit uses these people as the benchmark to show what Crossfit can do for you when they didn't even get that way from doing Crossfit. Fuck Crossfit.

Berz out.

[hal0g0dv2]

the guy that won the cross git games or w/e never worked out before lol

anyone that is big and is in cross fit it because they use to work out like a normal person

[instantneedles]

the guy that won the cross git games or w/e never worked out before lol

anyone that is big and is in cross fit it because they use to work out like a normal person

:lawl:

[spideyv2]

crossfit, not even once

[RBGodzilla]

Lol, i work at Reebok on queensborough landing and when crossfit first started to go public, all the employess were allowed to do a couple of sessions for free and i will say if your not already in shape... then dont do it!! you will die!!

They say "we will scale it down" .... NO lol!! they introduce you to deadlift and olympic clean and jerk and a whole bunch of crap that you have no idea about but they expect you to do it!! My first day i vomitted because im not in shape at all.!

And people who are in crossfit act like there the greatest thing ever and they are above everyone else .. its annoying -_-!

but obviously i cant say that crossfit is useless to customers at work cause then ill get pwned :speechless:

[instantneedles]

LOL wtf, olympic clean and jerk on the first day... crossfit isn't a just a stupid concept, its consent for suicide

[sas]

they introduce you to deadlift and olympic clean and jerk and a whole bunch of crap

:fuckthatshit:

You're lucky they didn't include the Oly lifts as part of a Metcon. Yes, they are that retarded.

[vcrbmw]

Got into an online "discussion" on why it is necessary to drop weights during a workout. Ugh. Same with swearing. Not sure how that would help make for a better workout.