[alexlam]

I purchased a car from this dealership about 6 months ago and had the worst possible experience with my 2003 Range Rover HSE

1st month my "check engine" light came on as well as "inactive air suspension" cost me about $200 to get those reset.
Battery needed to be replaced $150
Air suspension had to be replaced $4000
Transmission needed replacing $5300
New Tires $1200

I paid $16,000 for the car which was a good price at that time last year.

I also have their checklist that said everything was in good condition with no problems.
They also offered to forge documents for financing (indirectly)

Bottom line, dont deal with with shady stealership!

[Sky_High]

You didn't think it would be cheap to own/maintain a Range Rover did you? :ahwow:

[El Bastardo]

Theres a difference between maintenance and being sold a car with so many things wrong with it

[TypeRNammer]

This dealership has been brought up many times on RS already! There's quite a bit of info on it too, forgot which thread it was in though.

[dlo]

Friend use to work there, they always rip apart good parts from the car and put bogus crap into em lol
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[jpark]

not the most credible source out there, but this is what i got right away from msn auto review on a 2003 rover

An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Front Air Spring(s). The cost to repair the Front Air Spring is estimated at $1108.00 each for parts and $215.00 each for labor (including alignment). All prices are estimates based on $65.00 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

[hk20000]

I think you got away with a less-lemon-than-most for a Range Rover.

Just stay away from this brand if you wanted anything remotely reliable.

[Nicotine]

the word liquidation is in the name. What the hell were you expecting?

[Redlines_Daily]

Heard so many bad things about auto-lquidation. They have many high-end cars selling on craigslist for very low prices..they try to market themselves as a high-inventory liquidator to justify their low prices but the reality is that their cars are the worst of the worst.

Also, my friend has owned 2 range rovers and had to replace the air suspension in both of them. Very common problem on this vehicle. You think that as the price of a car rises so should the reliability, you are paying for a 'premium' vehicle after all, should it not be superior to is cheaper counter parts in every way? geez

Good luck with your range rover, hope you don't have any more costly problems with it!

[Presto]

OP... you've been registered since 2009. RS is not just a great place for selling your used car. It's a one-stop automotive resource. You don't need to tell us about your crappy experience. We already know about it. A quick search on this forum would have revealed the sketchiness of that stealership, and, likely, would prevented you from handing your hard-earned dough to some slimeballs.

[taylor192]

They have a M3 on CL right now that been there for awhile. The price is right, yet from everything I've read about this guys I don't want to touch it.

[Supafly]

They have a M3 on CL right now that been there for awhile. The price is right, yet from everything I've read about this guys I don't want to touch it.

The marroon one with the BBK?......don't touch it.

[swfk]

The marroon one with the BBK?......don't touch it.

This one? Liquidation doesn't have it anymore, one of the techs at BJBMW had it and apparently his bro bought it. The tech cleared some codes and narrowed it down to the SMG solenoid or pump just like some RS members talked about in the other thread. I think under $3k for repairs?

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403146_10150453032042939_512902938_8858274_7386995 92_n.jpg

[taylor192]

The marroon one with the BBK?......don't touch it.
2006 BMW M3 CONVERTIBLE (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/2816723035.html)

Its exactly what I want (minus the blue colour)

OT: If only the woman selling this one was more co-operative. Asked for service record about Inspection 1 or 2, she has no clue what I'm talking about.

2004 BMW M3 Convertible (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/2799383650.html)

[BaoTurbo]

OP bought a Land Rover and didn't know how much it is to maintain+bought it at a notorious liquidation centre. I think you deserve to learn from your mistakes and do some research before you buy another car unless you have more money and time to burn which I assume you don't want to.

As for the VAL, I think it's not all bad. You may get to get a fair car for the price you were looking for if you have the expertise to look at the car and identify all the crap they try to tell you, other than that, if you're just a regular average customer, I would stay away from there.

[Acura604]

Vancouver Auto Liquidation (http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?hl=en&cp=13&gs_id=x&xhr=t&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=633&bih=466&wrapid=tljp1327519327666014&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=vancouver+auto+liquidation&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=auto+liquidation&hnear=0x548673f143a94fb3:0xbb9196ea9b81f38b,Vancou ver,+BC&cid=11651950980404949017&ei=YVYgT-ixJOKbiQLJ4Jm_Cw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=placepage-link&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ4gkwAA)

probably repost..but google reviews.. most positive ones sound fishy like they were planted.. the negative ones go along with OPs experience.

[Redlines_Daily]

OP bought a Land Rover and didn't know how much it is to maintain+bought it at a notorious liquidation centre. I think you deserve to learn from your mistakes and do some research before you buy another car unless you have more money and time to burn which I assume you don't want to.

As for the VAL, I think it's not all bad. You may get to get a fair car for the price you were looking for if you have the expertise to look at the car and identify all the crap they try to tell you, other than that, if you're just a regular average customer, I would stay away from there.

Not once did the OP say that he didn't expect high maintenance bills. However, there is a difference between expensive regular maintenance and expensive major problems(from a vehicle that dealer told him was ok). He is simply warning other members that this dealership is not honest and generously taking him time to do so.

Your response is that OP deserves to get ripped off because he may not be as street savvy as you? Perhaps old grandmothers deserve to get their savings scammed from African emails too?
-J

[BillyBishop]

Here's the other thread

http://www.revscene.net/forums/519068-vancouver-auto-liquidation-center.html

[BaoTurbo]

Not once did the OP say that he didn't expect high maintenance bills. However, there is a difference between expensive regular maintenance and expensive major problems(from a vehicle that dealer told him was ok). He is simply warning other members that this dealership is not honest and generously taking him time to do so.

Your response is that OP deserves to get ripped off because he may not be as street savvy as you? Perhaps old grandmothers deserve to get their savings scammed from African emails too?
-J

Look at the threads all over RS. Need more warning? No. Search Vancouver Auto liquidation on RS right now and read how many people already contributed to each thread with their own experiences and opinions. Post in the other threads like how everyone else is or read them and do some research on the internet on the reputation on the place before visiting there. People get ripped off everyday, it's whether you're smart enough to do your legwork before you visit places like a liquidation centre where the risk factor is obviously high and mitigate the chances of being ripped off. It doesn't have to be street savvyness or not. Even if you buy a car you still need to do some research on how much the car is actually worth on the market as of now, and how much it costs to maintain or common problems that comes with the car.

You're just going to buy a Land Rover because you feel like you need one. You expect there will be problems with the car because you're at a liquidation centre, but you don't know what to expect. A liquidation centre has just indirectly implied they can forge finance documents, yet still gives you a checklist that the car is in complete good condition to drive and you still believes this checklist has validity. Really? Street savvy? No.

I didn't say he deserved to lose all this money to this "shady" dealership. I'm saying he deserved a lesson to know next time to do some checking on the internet before dealing with whatever dealership or choosing whichever car he wishes. I see threads all over RS asking for past experiences with dealerships, and I think that is a good way to add on what to expect at the dealership and on top of that, do some research yourself.

[kgatz]

Just do your research. They get a lot of BMW's wholesaled from Brian Jessel from trade-ins that they can't re-certify (too old, or too many kms). There's nothing wrong with that, but that's why they're so cheap, cause you know somethings going to go sooner or later.

I bought a 100k car from these guys for 25gs, with no decs. If you don't carfax it, get a fresh icbc report, and give it a good test drive first then you're an idiot.

If you want to pay next to nothing for a Bimmer you can't be afraid of the shady dealers.

[TRDood]

2006 BMW M3 CONVERTIBLE (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/2816723035.html)

Its exactly what I want (minus the blue colour)

OT: If only the woman selling this one was more co-operative. Asked for service record about Inspection 1 or 2, she has no clue what I'm talking about.

2004 BMW M3 Convertible (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/2799383650.html)

The 2004 M3 is from Florida in 2008. I contacted that person too.

[maxxxboost]

There is always a reason why it is selling for a few grand less than what others are selling it for. Do your research first. Lastly, if you can't afford to maintain a Land Rover, don't drive one.

[Soundy]

Lastly, if you can't afford to maintain a Land Rover, don't drive one.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2012/2094326368_c91fb05963.jpg

[Redlines_Daily]

.. Lastly, if you can't afford to maintain a Land Rover, don't drive one.

He paid for the repairs, so obviously he can afford it. I don't why this "if you can't afford it..." argument always comes into play when talking about luxury cars. Jealousy? If someone had to pay $1000 for a new transmission on their civic but couldnt afford it, would you say the same thing? I think not.

[BlackZRoadster]

Heard so many bad things about auto-lquidation. They have many high-end cars selling on craigslist for very low prices..they try to market themselves as a high-inventory liquidator to justify their low prices but the reality is that their cars are the worst of the worst.

Also, my friend has owned 2 range rovers and had to replace the air suspension in both of them. Very common problem on this vehicle. You think that as the price of a car rises so should the reliability, you are paying for a 'premium' vehicle after all, should it not be superior to is cheaper counter parts in every way? geez

Good luck with your range rover, hope you don't have any more costly problems with it!

With premium items, you expect more things to go wrong and less reliability. For example, i need to service my rolex between 5-8 years at about $800. If i had bought something cheaper like a seiko or casio, i woulnd need to do that or spend as much.

More stuff can go wrong and cost alot to fix on premium cars. Nobody expects premium euro cars to have japanese reliability.

[Redlines_Daily]

With premium items, you expect more things to go wrong and less reliability.

I disagree, you only expect that because it has become the norm. How about other premium items.. would you expect less reliability/durability with your premium home,furniture,appliances, electronics, music instruments, etc? No, of course not! Car manufacturers get away with it because many of their customers buy for status, not quality. I agree with you, just stating how sad it has become now that it is the norm.

[Gh0stRider]

did you not get it fully inspected?

[BlackZRoadster]

I disagree, you only expect that because it has become the norm. How about other premium items.. would you expect less reliability/durability with your premium home,furniture,appliances, electronics, music instruments, etc? No, of course not! Car manufacturers get away with it because many of their customers buy for status, not quality. I agree with you, just stating how sad it has become now that it is the norm.

i guess we all accept it as the norm now. I got a new dishwasher, and they said bosch isnt really reliable plus it cost more to fix than buy a new one. I still bout the bosch to match my kitchen. Plus its made in germany :fullofwin:

but anyways, most premium stuff to generally cost more to fix. Premium items generally have a shorter warranty too.

[Gridlock]

I don't think that's true at all.

People expect their fancy european cars to massage their damn balls while in the drivers seat, warm their ass and wipe it too, and to be able to select from not one, not two, not three, but four different forms of massage while at the same time listening to a full symphony style concert rendering from the better than home equipment sound system run by a computer that is just a hair away from artificial intelligence.

Then complain that its unreliable.

That's just what I picked up on.