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RSXBoii
01-27-2012, 11:18 PM
Just for those of you that might of not seen this...the new 2013 Genesis Coupe. I personally really really like it. Comes with either the 6 speed manual or a new 8 speed automatic. Great value. I recently bought a 2012 2.0T Coupe 6MT and i'm in love with it. Cant imagine how good this will be especially with the power increases... :ahwow:

Comes with either the 2.0L Turbo now producing 274HP/275LB-FT
or V6 producing 348HP/295LB-FT



http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/showroom/vehiclepromo.aspx?model=genesis%20coupe


Drifting video:
2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Drifting -

Source for pics: Automobile Magazine
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/39774201+w750+st0/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-front-right-view.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/39774204+w750+st0/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-front-view.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/39774210+w750+st0/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-right-side-view.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/35024078+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-cockpit-2.JPG.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120364+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-cockpit.JPG.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120514+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-screen.JPG.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120487+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-engine.JPG.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120517+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-wheels.JPG.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120499+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-front-three-quarter-drift.JPG.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35019.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35020.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35021.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35023.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35025.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/n2oinferno/Genesis%20Coupe/35027.jpg[/QUOTE]

Energy
01-27-2012, 11:29 PM
Nice upgrades. Will the price go up?

RSXBoii
01-28-2012, 01:12 AM
Nice upgrades. Will the price go up?

Probably. Although it currently starts at only $25K which is very competitive and I see a very minor increase coming, if any.

kouki_monster
01-28-2012, 01:20 AM
I'm sorry, but that front end looks disgusting..

see.lai
01-28-2012, 01:26 AM
Wow i really like the back, minus the spoiler

RSXBoii
01-28-2012, 01:44 AM
I'm sorry, but that front end looks disgusting..

I think it's really nice especially in darker colours. Although being a genesis owner i guess im biased but i really think its a step in the right direction in terms of blending sophistication and style with a more sporty and aggressive look.

jpark
01-28-2012, 01:51 AM
interior is a nice subtle upgrade...
but i hope m&s or luxon develops a descent aftermarket replacement grill for that front

oh, and those new wheels dont look too appealing either.. i prefer the older gt/track 19's

- kT
01-28-2012, 03:42 AM
absolutely HATE that front end. Those wheels don't look as good as the current 19's do either

the new interior, new tails, and ENGINE however..yes please
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TjAlmeida
01-28-2012, 03:54 AM
Front end looks ok except that big piece of plastic looks terrible on lighter colored ones.
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S1 S2
01-28-2012, 04:08 AM
Still not feeling her front end :(
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xilley
01-28-2012, 05:20 AM
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120499+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-front-three-quarter-drift.JPG.jpg

looks like a frickin viper+Gtr

asian_XL
01-28-2012, 06:13 AM
http://freedisneyclipartsite.com/images/free_disney_clipart_lightning_mcqueen.jpg

FRStan
01-28-2012, 06:29 AM
Way to ruin the front end Hyundai

donjalapeno
01-28-2012, 08:45 AM
the only thing that bothers me with the front end is the big plastic bar going from one side to the other

GG
01-28-2012, 08:58 AM
looks like a fucking tiburon


whoever buys this shit needs to get their eyes checked out

EvoFire
01-28-2012, 10:17 AM
Really disliking those three gauges on the center console, looks so tacky and cheap.

I'm a little meh about the front end, but the fake hood scoops have got go.

Loving the new tail lights though.

CP.AR
01-28-2012, 04:07 PM
8 SPEED AUTO???

REALLY?
8!?!?!?!?

RSXBoii
01-28-2012, 04:17 PM
looks like a fucking tiburon


whoever buys this shit needs to get their eyes checked out

http://data.whicdn.com/images/18588380/n170496_watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme_large.png

godwin
01-28-2012, 04:56 PM
The gear box is lifted from their Genesis sedan.

It looks like they are upping the game to counter the Toyota/Subaru combo (with better specs / interior).. I like the old face / grill better.. (a lot distinctive from the rest of the Hyundai range).. With the Toyota / Subaru be in the 30k range, I think in terms of stock form.. this will beat them handily wise (not emotional / brand wise I suppose).

Problems with the Toyota / Subaru's hoods being too low for FI.. seems the Genesis coupe has less :fulloffuck: design issues.

8 SPEED AUTO???

REALLY?
8!?!?!?!?

604nguyen
01-28-2012, 05:45 PM
...... blending sophistication and style with a more sporty and aggressive look.



http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif







but seriously....that front.......:fuckthatshit:

Nlkko
01-28-2012, 05:48 PM
^The two cars are in different classes, you can't compare them that way. I wish they were in the same class though. Fuck Toyota/Subaru for putting a piece of junk engine in it.

tofu1413
01-28-2012, 06:12 PM
front end looks like an evo that got into a nasty accident...

i still dont get that bar in the middle trend started by the GTR............


i still think the current one is quite plastic in the inside.... this one seems to be also the case...

PJ
01-28-2012, 11:28 PM
Reminds me of a Tiburon.. Should've just kept the current front end
Interior's not bad though

rageguy
01-28-2012, 11:43 PM
I love the interior. It's such a huge upgrade from the previous models. The speed boost is nice too, 2L engine, 274hp. That's impressive. 60 more hp then before. The exterior is really hit or miss. I can't wait to see it in real life.

MaGNuM16
01-29-2012, 05:53 AM
im defently going to buy one of these. Hoping that the price range is in the same range has the current genesis. With the money youd save trying to make up that extra 70 hp from the current genesis buy a new front end haha.

kyoshi
01-29-2012, 10:10 AM
ugly front, nice interior, nice back end.....

but how does it drive?! absolutely hated the manual in the original gen coupe. Really hope its been tweaked because the rev hang was really annoying

Lomac
01-29-2012, 12:12 PM
front end looks like an evo that got into a nasty accident...

i still dont get that bar in the middle trend started by the GTR............


i still think the current one is quite plastic in the inside.... this one seems to be also the case...

Not started by GTR... Audi, I believe, introduced it first. Not that it matters, it rarely looks good on any car that has a similar design.

46_valentinor
01-29-2012, 12:28 PM
i think the front end will take some getting use to. in a couple months, people are going to start falling for it like with most new car designs lol

RSXBoii
01-29-2012, 12:31 PM
i think the front end will take some getting use to. in a couple months, people are going to start falling for it like with most new car designs lol

Thats what I was thinking. Rarely does a completley redesigned car come out with everyone in approval of the design changes. It usually takes some getting used to. I can honestly say I like this front end and my current 2012 front end equally since this one has grown on me.

also, in regards to the transmission, my 6MT has been flawless so far. the majority of the people who go on forums go on there to complain. very rarely will someone make a thread about how well their car has been performing or whatever. You need to take everything you see with a grain of salt. With that said, the new 6mt has apparently addressed some of the problems the original was having.

"refined shift and clutch action" - hyundai canada

GG
01-29-2012, 01:12 PM
the new mazda 3 has been out forever, and the look is still a joke


and now this

S1 S2
01-29-2012, 02:17 PM
the new mazda 3 has been out forever, and the look is still a joke


and now this

And the new TL
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bloodmack
01-29-2012, 02:21 PM
I like it, looks way meaner then the previous gen. But that middle piece in the front end.. Why is everyone copying front end look with that? I would only buy it in black as it hides the front problems pretty good imo.

- kT
01-29-2012, 02:27 PM
also, in regards to the transmission, my 6MT has been flawless so far. the majority of the people who go on forums go on there to complain. very rarely will someone make a thread about how well their car has been performing or whatever. You need to take everything you see with a grain of salt. With that said, the new 6mt has apparently addressed some of the problems the original was having.

truth. also it looks like it's time for you to pm a mod to get a name change :D

i've noticed that hyundai is stepping in a direction to make all their cars have a similar front end - much like acura and mitsubishi did. ie the shield on all acura cars nowadays, and the similarly shaped headlights on the evo, lancer and even their suv's

here's what i mean

2012 veloster
http://www.hyundaiveloster.org/uploads/seccion/img-603.jpg

2013 sonata
http://hybrids-cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hyundai-hybrid-by-2013.jpg

2012 elantra
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1d4SCT77s_Y/TmZ8HdE8bOI/AAAAAAAABco/CCKyTrs-A2k/s1600/2012-Hyundai-i30-00.jpg

and finally the 2013 gc
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe_100370268_m.jpg

it's a step in a different direction. whether it's the right direction, time will tell. but with this step, there'll be no question that a car is a hyundai - because all modern hyundai's will look similar

i suspect a lot of companies will be making aftermarket front bumpers for the 2013 because of (seemingly) unanimous response of dislike for the new front end - can't wait to see some of them. a lot of people disliked the fangs on the 370z when it first came out, and a lot of companies set out to make front bumpers not long after the car was released. with that being said, the fangs grew on a lot of people quickly. the weird grill on the genesis might be the same. not for me though. especially when i look at my own front end

RSXBoii
01-29-2012, 02:43 PM
i suspect a lot of companies will be making aftermarket front bumpers for the 2013 because of (seemingly) unanimous response of dislike for the new front end - can't wait to see some of them. a lot of people disliked the fangs on the 370z when it first came out, and a lot of companies set out to make front bumpers not long after the car was released. with that being said, the fangs grew on a lot of people quickly. the weird grill on the genesis might be the same. not for me though. especially when i look at my own front end

I agree in that the current Genesis makes people who are not very knowledgeable about cars wonder what kind of car it is. I get compliments and questions very constantly and people are very curious and find it very appealing. There will be no doubt as time passes that people will immediately associate the 2013 with the rest of the Hyundai lineup which is somewhat disappointing. But at the end of the day that kind of stuff doesn't really matter for the true auto enthusiast if it turns out to be all it's cracked up to be

hongy
01-29-2012, 11:53 PM
i still dont get that bar in the middle trend started by the GTR............




Front bar is meant for license plates, but even the newer audi's got rid of that.

gilly
01-30-2012, 10:16 AM
want to know the canadian pricing for all the trims!!

gilly
02-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Canadian pricing. I took this off from gencoupe.com forums.

Trim levels and pricing are as such

2013 Gen Coupe base 2.0T 6 speed manual $24,899-->$26,499 (+$1600)
2013 Gen Coupe Base 2.0T 8 Speed auto $26,399-->28,299 (+$1900)
2013 Gen Coupe 2.0T 6 speed premium Package $27,899-->29,899 (+$2000)
2013 Gen Coupe 2.0T 8 speed auto premium package $29,399-->31,699 (+$2300)
2013 Gen coupe 2.0T 6 speed manual R Spec NEW-->28,799
2013 Gen coupe 3.8 GT 6 speed manual $36,499-->36,999 (+$500)
2013 Gen Coupe 3.8GT 8 speed auto $38,299-->38,799 (+$500)

not sure what trim differences to post, list is too long, so I will post what I deem important. If you guys have any specific question, ask and I will post them

front windshield wiper de-icer is standard across the trims. Automatic climate control, tilt+telescopic steering wheel is all standard

2.0T base and premium will come with 18 inch alloy wheels + high performance all season tires whereas 2.0T R Spec and 3.8 will come standard with 19 inch alloy+high performance summer compound tires.

Heated seats only available on premium package and 3.8 just like before.

Nav is finally an option like the US, and Navigation, leather and sunroof will be on the 2.0T premium and the 3.8 versions along with the infinity sound system.

brembo brakes will be on the 2.0 R spec and the 3.8 as standard equipment.

I might be wrong but it seems like the 2.0R spec will get leather trim seats but it says seath in my internal spec sheet. 2.0R spec and 3.8 will get R spec calibrated suspension. Strut bar and limited slip rear differential on 2.oT r spec and 3.8 too.

accoustic film glass, led mirror turn indicators , push button start, auto dimming rear view mirror with homelink and compass, LED day time running lights, HID autolevelling lights standard on 3.8 versions only.

These are available for pre-orders already, so you can pre-order one and be the first one to be driving them when they arrive 8-16 weeks from now

Limitless
02-28-2012, 11:35 AM
but with this step, there'll be no question that a car is a hyundai - because all modern hyundai's will look similar

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Regardless I like this car :) Front end can be fixed with an aftermarket bumper in time. Rest of the car is pretty good. I think the genesis coupe has a lower starting price than the frs? I would lean more towards getting the genesis just because it can fit more people a lot more comfortably than the frs, and is more luxurious making it somewhat a better dd

heleu
02-28-2012, 11:46 AM
ugly front, nice interior, nice back end.....

but how does it drive?! absolutely hated the manual in the original gen coupe. Really hope its been tweaked because the rev hang was really annoying

I found the same thing when I test drove the 2.0T. I haven't driven a ton of newer cars, but it was very annoying. I'd probably have to get the ECU reprogrammed...

mos_skeeto
02-28-2012, 12:41 PM
I'm very curious about the pro's and con's of an 8 speed automatic. I know some expensive luxury cars have it but you don't see it in more affordable cars. Is this a good thing?

Datsun
02-28-2012, 12:53 PM
I'm hoping there will be an aftermarket bumper cover that resembles the 1st gen. Wrinkled pug smiles belong on pugs!

RabidRat
02-28-2012, 04:36 PM
I'm hoping there will be an aftermarket bumper cover that resembles the 1st gen. Wrinkled pug smiles belong on pugs!

You'd be giving up some pretty sweet LED DRL's / turn signals though.

em1.ac
02-28-2012, 04:40 PM
Looking at the front end gave me diarrhea...

brb.... washroom time!

Datsun
02-28-2012, 06:38 PM
You'd be giving up some pretty sweet LED DRL's / turn signals though.

ehh... I'm not a big fan of LED DRL anyways (even when Audi first made them popular).

I would just sell em on CL or something. lol

- kT
02-28-2012, 08:52 PM
Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Regardless I like this car :) Front end can be fixed with an aftermarket bumper in time. Rest of the car is pretty good. I think the genesis coupe has a lower starting price than the frs? I would lean more towards getting the genesis just because it can fit more people a lot more comfortably than the frs, and is more luxurious making it somewhat a better dd

agreed - but good thing if you look at it from hyundai's standpoint. the genesis coupe and sedan are two models that are really making their company look better, so to make it obvious that the genesis is a hyundai is a smart move on their part

also comparing the frs to the genesis isn't necessarily the best thing to do. yes they're both sports cars, and yes they're both rwd and 2door coupes, but that's pretty much where their similarities end. one has turbo, one is n/a. one is designed to be a pure sports car, the other is a bit of a sports car/dd mixup. one is a go kart, the other is..kinda large. with that being said though, if there's 2 cars on the current market to compare, it's those two

RSXBoii
02-28-2012, 09:18 PM
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/darkstar7965/Genesis-Coupe-Teaser-pg_EN1.jpg

UFO
02-29-2012, 01:40 AM
This is especially apparent on the Sonata, not as bad on other models.

http://hybrids-cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hyundai-hybrid-by-2013.jpg
http://www.whale-shark.org/images/whale_shark_research.jpg

godwin
02-29-2012, 02:38 AM
Pro is it saves gas.. con is it is heavier and pretty much only available only as replacement part only.

The part comes from the Genesis sedan. It makes more sense on large displacement engines which have a wider power and torque band. The gas saving potential decreases when the engine gets smaller / less powerful.

I'm very curious about the pro's and con's of an 8 speed automatic. I know some expensive luxury cars have it but you don't see it in more affordable cars. Is this a good thing?

godwin
02-29-2012, 02:39 AM
Your Sonata picture is for the hybrid which have more cooling / heating for the battery component, not to mention the generator.

This is especially apparent on the Sonata, not as bad on other models.

UFO
02-29-2012, 08:25 AM
^Yes I know that's the hybrid. I borrowed the picture that was posted from above. I don't recall seeing the whale-shark gaping mouths on other hybrids though, so while their may be a functional component to the Sonata Hybrid's mouth, a significant component of that styling is with Hyundai wanting a 'familiar face' through their lineup.

Tapioca
02-29-2012, 09:16 AM
I'm very curious about the pro's and con's of an 8 speed automatic. I know some expensive luxury cars have it but you don't see it in more affordable cars. Is this a good thing?

If I were buying a new coupe, I would get the manual. Doesn't matter if the 8-speed auto saves fuel, is more efficient, and features a dual clutch as even modern automatics still fail within 5 years.

Manuals on coupes have a higher resale value because your market in 5-8 years time will be cheap enthusiasts (like me) who all drive manuals. If you're buying a coupe and you're an enthusiast, always buy the manual when the option is available.
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gilly
03-12-2012, 08:08 AM
Build and price for the genesis is out on the website!! Seriously considering picking up one. Currently looking at the Premium model.. just under 30K. Still want to wait and see whats the pricing for the frs and brz first.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/buildprice/step2_trims.aspx?model=GENESIS%20COUPE
change model yr to 2013

european
03-12-2012, 09:45 AM
That's kind of neat. I'm not a big fan of the car but its alright I guess.
But damn! Those are some wicked photos! I Wanna shoot more photos of cars! rawr!

RabidRat
03-12-2012, 10:45 AM
Build and price for the genesis is out on the website!! Seriously considering picking up one. Currently looking at the Premium model.. just under 30K. Still want to wait and see whats the pricing for the frs and brz first.

Hyundai Build and Price a Genesis Coupe (http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/buildprice/step2_trims.aspx?model=GENESIS%20COUPE)
change model yr to 2013

wtf, you'd give up the R-Spec brembos and LSD just for some leather seats?!

for shame.

mos_skeeto
03-12-2012, 11:27 AM
Luxury vs performance. Someone getting it as a DD may prefer a satnav, better sound system, sunroof and leather while someone taking it to a track might want the LSD and brakes. Nice of Hyundai to cover both aspects. I test drove a 2012 2.0t on the weekend. Drove very nicely but it didn't feel that fast. Might take the new one for a spin when it comes out to compare.

gilly
03-12-2012, 11:31 AM
I can always install the brembo brakes afterwards. Too bad Hyundai doesn't offer leather seats and nav with LSD and brembo in one trim level.

dL
03-12-2012, 11:44 AM
Let's see:

- Far less colour options than before (including 2012 too)
- No HID unless 3.8 at 37k. Many cars come with HID even at 20k. Easy fix however.
- No LED DRL's unless 3.8 at 37k. Not even an option for the 2.0T. Not a deal breaker, but at least offer that for the top trim of 2.0.
- If one wants Brembo and LSD and also want the nav or upgraded speakers, they have to get the 3.8 at 37k.
- $4000 difference starting price between 2012 3.8 and 2013 3.8, despite the new engine being faster. $4000 is quite a bit to swallow and attract.

I seriously think the new offerings are less attractive, especially with their new face in the front. If I was to get one, I'd rather get the 2012 and use the saved money to modify it.

If they offered the new engine at nearly the same price as the 2012 then I think it'll sell like hotcakes despite the front, although 270hp at 26k is still pretty attractive.

dL

The_AK
03-12-2012, 03:04 PM
They still didn't change window control buttons!

fuuuu opening and closing windows feels so damn awkward

tonyzoomzoom
03-12-2012, 05:28 PM
R-Spec hands down - best bang for buck

iwbtib
03-20-2012, 04:20 PM
They need to go into a stock Hana style front bumper & put in the Supercharged Tau into it already.
RMR did the Tau swap for the 2011 Sema back in October. What i would do for that...!!!

Supercharged Tau v8 5.0L Genesis

- kT
03-20-2012, 04:58 PM
test driving both the 3.8 and the 2.0 tonight, will report back on what i think!

initial thoughts though - it really sucks that they took away the GT on the 2.0T. that used to contain both luxury options (with things like infinity sound system, HID's, etc) as well as performance options (brembos, LSD, suspension, etc). now, at least on the 2.0, you get either technological options on the premium or performance options on the RSpec

my guess as to why they did this is to boost 3.8 sales. the only way you can get luxury and performance now is in the 3.8GT. i guess they didn't sell as many 3.8 units in canada last year as they wanted to

also, rest in peace to the 2 tone red/black interior :(

T2000
03-20-2012, 06:56 PM
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/36120499+w750+st0/2013-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-front-three-quarter-drift.JPG.jpg

looks like a frickin viper+Gtr


:heckno:

hahaha you drunk?

Akinari
03-20-2012, 07:41 PM
The first generation Genesis Coupe's front end was already pushing it for me, but this is just going too far.

I simply cannot accept the fact that I'm investing in a vehicle that is all go no show, in my opinion at least. I'd rather grab a V6 Mustang lol.

EDIT: With that being said, I probably wouldn't mind owning something clean like this.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/killakorean/VTBLOG/5001.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/killakorean/VTBLOG/5002.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/killakorean/VTBLOG/IMG_0699500W.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/killakorean/VTBLOG/IMG_0725500W.jpg

- kT
03-20-2012, 09:04 PM
test driving both the 3.8 and the 2.0 tonight, will report back on what i think!

initial thoughts though - it really sucks that they took away the GT on the 2.0T. that used to contain both luxury options (with things like infinity sound system, HID's, etc) as well as performance options (brembos, LSD, suspension, etc). now, at least on the 2.0, you get either technological options on the premium or performance options on the RSpec

my guess as to why they did this is to boost 3.8 sales. the only way you can get luxury and performance now is in the 3.8GT. i guess they didn't sell as many 3.8 units in canada last year as they wanted to

also, rest in peace to the 2 tone red/black interior :(

just got home, here's my review on both the 2.0T Premium in 6spd MT and 3.8GT in 8spd AT. keep in mind i'm not being biased towards having a first gen genesis. this is MY honest review with no bias towards my own car whatsoever, and is my opinion also

Interior:
amazing. they really took consumer critique to heart. the leather all around, including the steering wheel, no longer has a plasticky feel to it. instead it feels like top notch leather, supple and..well leathery. gauge cluster with the electronic display is a nice new feature too, and the center console with the addition of the 3 gauges looks very good. that and the seatbelt for the passenger now has an assist hook thing to it so it's no longer a PITA for the passenger to grab the seatbelt. they also decided to go with less colours in the interior - less chrome, and the tan headliner and A+C pillars are now all black. icing on the cake - the LED doorsills on the 3.8 made the interior an A for me. no A+ because the rear is still terrible in terms of headroom, but to fix that they would've had to change the lines of the car

Exterior:
thought it would grow on me upon seeing it in person. it didn't, at all. the front looks squished when looking at it straight on, just like in photos. the rear isn't as nice as i thought it would be, but the tails definitely look better than the first gen oem tails. the LED DRL's are a nice feature, but overall it was pretty bad. that's just my opinion on it though, some love it, most hate it. C+

now for the important part: engine. 2.0T first
i went with a friend, and both him and i agreed - the engine felt way too refined. we tried numerous pulls, rolling and stand still pulls. no matter what we did, we didn't get pushed back into our seats - something that happened in my car right off the lot, despite the 2013 pushing 60hp more. it pulls harder but it doesn't feel raw at all. in other words, you can feel the power, but you can't FEEL the power. both my friend and i agreed, for a car enthusiast, the first gen was, despite not being the faster engine, the better engine. however if you want speed, then by all means the 2013 will give you that. B

3.8
didn't get the chance to try out a manual one, and maybe that's for the better since we did get to try out the 8speed auto. as in the previous gen, lots of fun. pulled hard and pulled quick. i havn't driven a first gen 3.8 in ages, but it is exactly as i remember it to be, with added oomph from the extra ~50 hp. for some reason it kept on shifting itself from 3->4th at about 6k rpm, something that didn't happen in any other gear. not too sure why that is, but because of that, B+. i didn't get to play around with the 3.8 as much as i did with the 2.0 either so my take on the 3.8 isn't as thorough as it could be but it's as close as i could get it

hope this helps with any potential buyers!

dovo
03-20-2012, 09:14 PM
just got home, here's my review on both the 2.0T Premium in 6spd MT and 3.8GT in 8spd AT. keep in mind i'm not being biased towards having a first gen genesis. this is MY honest review with no bias towards my own car whatsoever, and is m..... for some reason it kept on shifting itself from 3->4th at about 6k rpm, something that didn't happen in any other gear. not too sure why that is, but because of that, B+. i didn't get to play around with the 3.8 as much as i did with the 2.0 either so my take on the 3.8 isn't as thorough as it could be but it's as close as i could get it

hope this helps with any potential buyers!

Your review could do much better without the grading system. And this totally doesn't help any potential buyer unless they have driven the previous model.

- kT
03-20-2012, 09:20 PM
^ how do you suggest i rate it then?

and good point actually. but i couldn't compare it to anything else so i compared it to my car. also i didn't really compare the 2 cars too much because you can still take a lot from it minus the comparisons. ie the fact that the 2.0 doesn't feel raw and the 3.8 still pulls like a motherfucker

and my review was mostly geared for the gencoupe forum but i decided i'd toss it onto here because how hard is it to copy and paste. i didn't go out to hyundai with the goal to write a review, i went out to try out the new gc. i'm not an automotive magazine reviewer so take from it what you will. if it's nothing, then move on and look at real reviews

monkeywrench
03-20-2012, 10:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGVLRS2QPcE&list=PL8F0981B98726601A&index=8&feature=plcp

This video sums up a lot of things. I agree with almost everything this guy says

BillyBishop
03-20-2012, 11:50 PM
kt covered a lot, there's not much that I can add.

I have nowhere near as much time as he does behind the wheel of a Genesis, but I'll throw in my $0.02.


Interior:
Nearly all of the little quirks I had with the first generation have been addressed, save for a few. The button to open the boot is awkward for me to reach, maybe because I'm so tall. The position of the power window switches hasn't changed and, as somebody else already mentioned, is a bit of an annoyance. I'm not sure if it's changed from the first generation or not, but both the driver and passenger side windows are auto-up and down with the two-stage switches. Lovely convenience. The seats are now half-powered. There's a rocker-switch to electronically slide, raise, and tilt the seats, but the seat-back reclining is still controlled by a conventional mechanical handle. It does, however, make for faster adjustments and doesn't have huge cogs limiting the possible angles. Much nicer materials used inside, also. The handbrake lever is wrapped in what seems to be a fine leather, as is the steering wheel.
I didn't like the fact that the paddle shifters in the auto were mounted on the steering wheel itself and not the steering column. I know different cars do them both ways but I, personally, prefer them on the column. There was considerably little space between the signal/wiper levers and the paddles which made me hit the wipers and signals a few times. Then again, that could just be my big hands.

Exterior:
Yuck, still. In the corner of my eye, it looks decent, but the front still reminds me of a squished pig snout when I take a good look at it. The rear tails protrude from the sides; we both didn't like that too much. There's not much else to say, otherwise.

Performance:
3.8 GT
It was my first time driving a 3.8... I was pleasantly surprised. There's lots of power on tap with the 348 horses, that's for sure. The automatic shifting while in paddle-shift-mode also happened between gears 2 and 3 for me; I think it automatically up-shifts to avoid bouncing off the rev-limiter.

2.0T
Like kt said, disappointing in a strange way. It felt very tamed and boring in spite of the increase in power. It was smooth and missed the feeling of crude power that the 3.8 delivered. Maybe I'm spoiled by the fact that I ride a sportbike lol

UFO
03-21-2012, 10:28 AM
now for the important part: engine. 2.0T first
i went with a friend, and both him and i agreed - the engine felt way too refined. we tried numerous pulls, rolling and stand still pulls. no matter what we did, we didn't get pushed back into our seats - something that happened in my car right off the lot, despite the 2013 pushing 60hp more. it pulls harder but it doesn't feel raw at all. in other words, you can feel the power, but you can't FEEL the power. both my friend and i agreed, for a car enthusiast, the first gen was, despite not being the faster engine, the better engine. however if you want speed, then by all means the 2013 will give you that. B


Would you consider the old 2.0T a bit laggy? When the turbo spools up, then you get your kickback/push.

Personally, I prefer a more linear power delivery when stomping on it. Not a fan of the "wait for it, wait for it, there it is" power delivery.

!Aznboi128
03-21-2012, 10:57 AM
This is especially apparent on the Sonata, not as bad on other models.

http://hybrids-cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hyundai-hybrid-by-2013.jpg
http://www.whale-shark.org/images/whale_shark_research.jpg
thats the hybrid

the sonata looks like this

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/03/2011hyundaisonataturbo---00.jpg

UFO
03-21-2012, 11:57 AM
^that was already brought up a bit lower on page 2.

^Yes I know that's the hybrid. I borrowed the picture that was posted from above. I don't recall seeing the whale-shark gaping mouths on other hybrids though, so while their may be a functional component to the Sonata Hybrid's mouth, a significant component of that styling is with Hyundai wanting a 'familiar face' through their lineup.

The pic you posted of the regular Sonata looks like this, not really angry just trying to be:
http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//30/08/30086a232d37466ad782d3830edbbbc7.jpg

!Aznboi128
03-21-2012, 12:04 PM
i much perfer the face of kia :p
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/azn_boi_128/DSC_3110.jpg

- kT
03-21-2012, 05:27 PM
^ that's because you own the car you hoe

Would you consider the old 2.0T a bit laggy? When the turbo spools up, then you get your kickback/push.

Personally, I prefer a more linear power delivery when stomping on it. Not a fan of the "wait for it, wait for it, there it is" power delivery.

absolutely. both models have turbo lag from the factory. i'd have to say less on the old 2.0T though, but i cannot tell you that with 100% certainty as the mods i have done to the car have eliminated much of the turbo lag so i can't recall how bad the turbo lag was right off the lot

you can feel exactly when the turbo begins to spool in the 2013, but it still lacks the kickback/push

and since you're more a fan of straight power delivery when hammering the pedal, then the 3.8 is for you. matter of fact, n/a > turbo for you. the 3.8 is just that, straight power directly to the wheels as soon as you touch the pedal

iwbtib
03-22-2012, 08:45 PM
Then you drop, paint the grill & rims & nightshade the tails...

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Hyundai/SEMA-Hyundai-Sonata-Turbo-15.jpg
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Hyundai/SEMA-Hyundai-Sonata-Turbo-14.jpg
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Hyundai/SEMA-Hyundai-Sonata-Turbo-5.jpg

But back 2 the topic at hand, I wanna see some track times! Those extra ponies must be driving down qm times.

and since you're more a fan of straight power delivery when hammering the pedal, then the 3.8 is for you. matter of fact, n/a > turbo for you. the 3.8 is just that, straight power directly to the wheels as soon as you touch the pedal

This is why i absolutely love my roots blower ^_^